Sue Bradford has pulled the pin

[JimO]

much sadness.............yea rite

[firefighter]

Elaborate.......

Have my prayers been answered?!

[Pussy]

much sadness.............yea rite

You had better not just be teasing......

[NDORFN]

That's not good news... she hasn't cleaned up the mess she made yet!

[JimO]

heard it ot the radio so it must be true

[firefighter]

If it's true it makes a new Tui billboard easily!

You know.........

'Sue Bradford will be missed'

lol

[rosie631]

Bloody awesome news

[Monstaman]

She needs taking out and beating to get into the real world!

If this is true NZ can move forward :Punk:

[Swoop]

Has someone improved the gene pool and killed her?

[Lias]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2901929/Green-MP-Sue-Bradford-resigns-from-Parliament

Fuck it all you had me excited, I thought you meant the bitch was dead :-(

[p.dath]

Did she hold an electorate, so there will be a by-election, or did she only hold a list seat?

A by-election could make an interesting change in parliament.

EDIT: "Aucklander Dave Clendon will enter Parliament on Ms Bradford's list spot."

[Mully]

Did she hold an electorate, so there will be a by-election, or did she only hold a list seat?


Nah, it was a list MP. No-one would vote for it.

Ding dong the witch is gone


Ms Bradford said her departure was prompted by losing the co-leadership battle to Metiria Turei

While this is probably partly true, I suspect she was "encouraged" to go. She has been a liability of the Greens for some time.

She'll have to go back to her previous career of, umm, that's right; Nothing.

[Blackbird]

Excerpt from article: "Ms Bradford said she would be "going back to the grassroots".

Not entirely sure what the heck that means but I wouldn't be surprised if she has a rather lower support base than she thinks and is probably unemployable in the "real" world. Also pisses me off that she pushes the "I'm one of you common people" line, yet she comes from a fairly priveleged background and is well-educated.

[Marmoot]

Just because she got passed-on for the co-leadership.

Boohooo. She's sad!
Emocry!
Maybe if she slash her wrist in protest everybody would listen.
Or maybe not.

Good riddance! NZ will be a better place tomorrow.

[Pussy]

I see on the same "stuff" page that Tutae Field is losing his free travel entitlements too..... waaaaah!

[short-circuit]

One of the few with a spine - she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

Enjoy your freedom Sue - you've earned it :niceone:

[Monstaman]

Has someone improved the gene pool and killed her?

Fuck she has five kids too .. we are fucked!

Good riddance to the bitch ... she is not normal!

[MisterD]

Did she hold an electorate, so there will be a by-election, or did she only hold a list seat?

Hahahahahaha...a Green MP winning an electorate seat....:lol:

So the question is: Is this just a belated exercise in dummy-spitting after she failed to get the leadership, or has she just ticked over a "level-up" on the amount of pension and general trough-access for ex-MP's?

[MisterD]

One of the few with a spine - she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

Enjoy your freedom Sue - you've earned it :niceone:

Earned it for the freedom she took away from the rest of us? Good f-ing riddance...so how much of a fruit-loop is this Clendon bloke?

[Flatcap]

I haven't laughed so much since Helen's consession speech....!

[MSTRS]

...so how much of a fruit-loop is this Clendon bloke?

He is a Green. That enough for ya?

[MisterD]

I haven't laughed so much since Helen's consession speech....!

You missed the bit where John Key introduced her to Barak T. Obamessiah then? Comedy gold.

[MIXONE]

That's the best Friday Flash I have seen in a long,long time.

[one fast tl1ooo]

Its a good thing that cow is gone... YEEEE HAA:laugh:

[Marmoot]

One of the few with a spine - she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

Enjoy your freedom Sue - you've earned it :niceone:

I'm with you mate. She should've set herself free years ago, even.

If she wants help to set herself even freer, she should contact her nearest ganja dealer and/or redneck gunclub.

[ElCoyote]

Earned it for the freedom she took away from the rest of us? Good f-ing riddance...so how much of a fruit-loop is this Clendon bloke?

He's a "Greenie" so obviously a nutter

[MisterD]

He is a Green. That enough for ya?

There's a scale though, which runs from Mildly bewildered (a la Rob Donald) to moon-barkingly deranged. They had to make it a log scale to get Catherine Delahunty onto the same graph.

[JimO]

One of the few with a spine - she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

Enjoy your freedom Sue - you've earned it :niceone:

feel free to join her...of course she will be getting all the perks just like nandori tandori

[nudemetalz]

I wonder if she's a good lay.....?? :drool:

[Pussy]

I wonder if she's a good lay.....?? :drool:

Nudey.... is there any previous history of mental illness in your family?
If you need help, I'm sure some of us can chip in for your visit to the optometrist!

[Lias]

Earned it for the freedom she took away from the rest of us? Good f-ing riddance...so how much of a fruit-loop is this Clendon bloke?

He cant be anywhere near as big a fruit-loop as short-circuit lol. I only just noticed today but he left me red rep threatening to come down to Hamilton and deal to me because I supported corporal punishment... hes a special boy alright.

[Flatcap]

I wonder if she's a good lay.....?? :drool:

It is difficult to ejaculate and vomit at the same time...

[Bronson]

much sadness.............yea rite

Does the original trespass order for parliament grounds come back into force?

[Lias]

I wonder if she's a good lay.....?? :drool:

Someone must think so if shes got 5 kids.. Actually.. I wonder if she'd ever worked for the blind foundation, thats the only way I can think of finding 5 guys blind enough to have shacked up with her.

[Hans]

Excerpt from article: "Ms Bradford said she would be "going back to the grassroots".

Not entirely sure what the heck that means but I wouldn't be surprised if she has a rather lower support base than she thinks and is probably unemployable in the "real" world. Also pisses me off that she pushes the "I'm one of you common people" line, yet she comes from a fairly priveleged background and is well-educated.

You mean "she'll go to feed the grass roots". Good riddance, you marxist bitch.

[short-circuit]

One of the few with a spine - she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

Enjoy your freedom Sue - you've earned it :niceone:

Lovin the Red from the Rednecks - most appropriate....

Keep it comin

[oldrider]

Just because she got passed-on for the co-leadership.

Boohooo. She's sad!
Emocry!
Maybe if she slash her wrist in protest everybody would listen.
Or maybe not.

Good riddance! NZ will be a better place tomorrow.

Yep, threw her toys clean out of the cot, stupid bitch, good riddance but like rabbits, there is always another stupid person! :doh:

[Swoop]

She'll have to go back to her previous career of, umm, that's right; Nothing.

Surely you mean "professional protestor and parasite on the community"?:confused:

[Lias]

Lovin the Red from the Rednecks - most appropriate....

Keep it comin

KB has a wide ranging community covering pretty much every colour, creed, religion, political affiliation, sexuality etc. A fairly large majority of them across all those walks of life disliked Sue Bradford, and are glad shes gone. Your the one calling everyone who disagrees names, and threatening people over their politics. Personally I'd say the guy sitting there name calling and threatening people who dont agree with his worldview to be the redneck, but hey I guess that's just me.

[rainman]

He is a Green. That enough for ya?


He's a "Greenie" so obviously a nutter

Oooh, this is going to be fun....

Waits... :corn:

[James Deuce]

Oh come on. The resignation of a principled MP is extremely sad and an indictment on our political system.

On the other hand, she is throwing her toys because she didn't get to be boss.

Even so, I'd rather have Sue Bradford in Parliament than Peter Dunne.

[Skyryder]

One of the few with a spine - she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

Enjoy your freedom Sue - you've earned it :niceone:

Yep she’s got more balls than most in Parliament.

Flip flop Key gets caught lying to the public and English only hands back what he was rorting from the public purse because he got himself caught and ‘it’s not a good look.’

Still that's ok with some but bring into Parliment legislation that adds to the protection of children and Bradford is the epitime of evil.




However I will admit that her resignation does look a bit petulant but then in the grand scheme of things Bradford will stand hands and shoulder over Key when the history of today gets written.

Skyryder

[Indiana_Jones]

She was pushed out I reckon.

Even if not, did that stupid cunt think she'd be given the position of party leader.....

-Indy

[JimO]

Yep she’s got more balls than most in Parliament.

Flip flop Key gets caught lying to the public and English only hands back what he was rorting from the public purse because he got himself caught and ‘it’s not a good look.’

Still that's ok with some but bring into Parliment legislation that adds to the protection of children and Bradford is the epitime of evil.




However I will admit that her resignation does look a bit petulant but then in the grand scheme of things Bradford will stand hands and shoulder over Key when the history of today gets written.

Skyryder


adds to the protection of children...............do you have children, how old are you??

[devnull]

Still that's ok with some but bring into Parliment legislation that adds to the protection of children and Bradford is the epitime of evil.
Skyryder

What a crock of shit.

She did nothing at all to protect children.

Not one risk factor was ever addressed. All she did was push a typical neo-fascist agenda of attempting to control a population though its children.

Not even an original idea. Hitler's National Socialists did it much better through athletics clubs.

Many of us do not want her anywhere near our children, given both her parenting and violent criminal records....

[hospitalfood]

KB has a wide ranging community covering pretty much every colour, creed, religion, political affiliation, sexuality etc.

true, but some are represented far more than others here.IMO

[Swoop]

Two down today.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10599507

Can we make it three? Amy Winebox hasn't been seen for a while.

[SPman]

One of the few with a spine - she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

Enjoy your freedom Sue - you've earned it :niceone:

Yep - she had more integrity than the entire National/Act cabinet! Also the most effective non government MP!

[MisterD]

Still that's ok with some but bring into Parliment legislation that adds to the protection of children and Bradford is the epitime of evil.

Yeah right. There hasn't been a child killed since eh?

As far as I'm concerned SB has enhanced the welfare of my two boys in one simple action - her resignation of today.

[Brian d marge]

Excerpt from article: "Ms Bradford said she would be "going back to the grassroots".

.

She smoked the whole plant then ,,,,bit desperate! I usually scrape the bong

Why aren't lesbians in real life like the ones on my internet , seriously what is up with that ?

Stephen

[RantyDave]

On the other had, she is throwing her toys because she didn't get to be boss.
That's what it looks like to me, too.

I think she believes, perhaps not all that wrongly, that being the only member of the green party to have actually done fucking anything in the last ... forever ... means that she should have been chosen to lead over, say, a caricature of political correctness (http://www.greens.org.nz/people/metiriaturei) who is under the impression that a separate legal system for Maori (http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/maori-justice-system-solution-proposed) would be a good idea and ... y'know ... actually help race relations. So, yeah, I would be pissy too.

[nudemetalz]

She smoked the whole plant then ,,,,bit desperate! I usually scrape the bong

Why aren't lesbians in real life like the ones on my internet , seriously what is up with that ?

Stephen

errr...she ain't a lesby, she's married (poor bugger he must be)......

[Maha]

much sadness.............yea rite

Sue Bradford has pulled the pin??
Did she explode??

[klingon]

Oooh, this is going to be fun....

Waits... :corn:

I think the wet one might be referring to the fact that Dave Clendon is a KBer.

*Looks around for loopy weirdo crazies*

Uh-oh. How will we tell which one is him?! :doh:

[AllanB]

She'll have to go back to her previous career of, umm, that's right; Nothing.


When she was younger it was protesting and getting arrested.


Once or twice I found myself agreeing with her on some subjects ...............

Then again, I once voted for Peter Dumb (early days) as I like the things he was saying about families - unfortunately he turned out to be spineless and useless.

Each time I vote I feel it's a waste of time - they (whoever wins) will do what the hell they like regardless of me.

[Brian d marge]

errr...she ain't a lesby, she's married (poor bugger he must be)......

smokescreen

she must go like the clappers in bed...... i cant think of another reason to (shudder) marry that one

:shit:

Stephen

[Mr Merde]

Fuck she has five kids too .. we are fucked!

Good riddance to the bitch ... she is not normal!

Quins?

cos no one would screw her that often

[Reckless]

Sue Bradford gone!
Don't you wish you could walk away from a multi million dollar fuck up that easy!!

[rainman]

I think the wet one might be referring to the fact that Dave Clendon is a KBer.

*Looks around for loopy weirdo crazies*

Uh-oh. How will we tell which one is him?! :doh:

"Wet one"? Oi! :)

I was just waiting to see if certain small minds would asplode when faced with the prospect of accommodating "all greenies=bad" and "all bikers=good" at the same time... :laugh:

Anyhoo, my congrats to Dave. 'Tis a shitty job to be sure, and I for one am glad we have people of his calibre taking it on.

[Mom]

It is difficult to ejaculate and vomit at the same time...

You know this how?

[ManDownUnder]

...she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

You actually are retarded aren't you?

[DMNTD]

You know this how?

Sexual asphyxia FTW!!! :eek:

[wickle]

Sue Bradford gone!
Don't you wish you could walk away from a multi million dollar fuck up that easy!!
with what retirement package, 80% of her currant earning and free travel?, a leech on the tax paying people of NZ

[Flatcap]

It is difficult to ejaculate and vomit at the same time...


You know this how?

...a fertile and filthy imagination...


Picturing right now, actually

[Swoop]

with what retirement package, 80% of her currant earning and free travel?, a leech on the tax paying people of NZ
Unfortunately, for a very long time.

Please, tallitubbies. Here is a worthy terrorist target!

[SPman]

That's what it looks like to me, too. Me to

...separate legal system for Maori (http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/maori-justice-system-solution-proposed) would be a good idea and ... y'know ... actually help race relations.
It probably would be - if you got the right Maori in charge. I think there would be some nasty surprises in store for a lot of Maori who thought they'd have an easy run of it......:2guns:

[Skyryder]

What a crock of shit.

She did nothing at all to protect children.

Not one risk factor was ever addressed. All she did was push a typical neo-fascist agenda of attempting to control a population though its children.

Not even an original idea. Hitler's National Socialists did it much better through athletics clubs.

Many of us do not want her anywhere near our children, given both her parenting and violent criminal records....

Yes it was. The defence of reasonable cause. Juries were allowing this as a defence of not guilty when children were showing injuries from beatings.

Bradford's bill was the result of juries allowing parents to injure their children and walk away from what most would condemn as common assault.

Skyryder

[short-circuit]

KB has a wide ranging community covering pretty much every colour, creed, religion, political affiliation, sexuality etc. A fairly large majority of them across all those walks of life disliked Sue Bradford, and are glad shes gone. Your the one calling everyone who disagrees names, and threatening people over their politics. Personally I'd say the guy sitting there name calling and threatening people who dont agree with his worldview to be the redneck, but hey I guess that's just me.

You're the racist with the bald head and the hard rightwing views .... You're also the pussy complaining to the mods that I'm threatening to give you the seeing to you deserve .... you pathetic little pseudo-nazi

[short-circuit]

You actually are retarded aren't you?

Stick to telling Maori people how to spell Whanganui

[ManDownUnder]

Bradford's bill was the result of ...

....her being beaten as a child. It was a pointless piece of shit enacting confusion where it previously wasn't and criminalising things that were already illegal.

It's an ongoing waste of time and money.

[ManDownUnder]

Stick to telling Maori people how to spell Whanganui

I'm working on having that positive impact you mentioned. I agree with the first part of you post though... about her having the spine to stand up for what she believes in. Agree with her or no - I respect her for that

[oldrider]

Yep she’s got more balls than most in Parliament.

Flip flop Key gets caught lying to the public and English only hands back what he was rorting from the public purse because he got himself caught and ‘it’s not a good look.’

Still that's ok with some but bring into Parliment legislation that adds to the protection of children and Bradford is the epitime of evil.




However I will admit that her resignation does look a bit petulant but then in the grand scheme of things Bradford will stand hands and shoulder over Key when the history of today gets written.

Skyryder

Get a grip, even with your socialist bias, that's a bit rich, Key is as left wing as she is! :doh:

There are no right wing politicians in NZ, they all believe in Big government and want to totally run our lives for us! :brick:

[P38]

Bradfords a bloody bush pig no doubt about that.

Nobody seems too upset that shes leaving parliment... including members of her own party.

But don't go getting your hopes up people.... Nothings changed.

One idiot leaves parliment...... (because she couldn't get her own way).

Another idiot takes her place.

Sometimes it's better the Devil you know.

[ManDownUnder]

Get a grip, even with your socialist bias,

... it's ok - he's on the sauce again

[MisterD]

Anyhoo, my congrats to Dave. 'Tis a shitty job to be sure, and I for one am glad we have people of his calibre taking it on.

I am, at least, glad that this appears to be thickening the green skin on the watermelon...

It appears that Dave is a scooterist (at least according to the profile on party site...). Hope it's a nice clean 4t and not a 2-smoker (well actually no, I don't hope that, but you know what I mean).

[rainman]

It appears that Dave is a scooterist (at least according to the profile on party site...).

Um, the profile may not be a complete description. I couldn't possibly say whether another, non-scooter two-wheeled vehicle, f'rinstance a sportsbike, may or may not be involved in this story. :msn-wink:

Bottom line is he's a top bloke and it's a good thing he's in parliament.

And, good luck to Sue with whatever she chooses to do next. I know she is hated by most here, but she has been a hard-working and effective MP, unlike many others. Just because you don't agree with what she stands for doesn't invalidate that. Yeah, yeah I expect a bunch of ranting responses, whatever, in this case we can agree to disagree.

[Coldrider]

She was just om TV3, better makeover than Helen ever did.

[Ixion]

Indeed. An SV1000S might or might not be involved in the story

[Skyryder]

Get a grip, even with your socialist bias, that's a bit rich, Key is as left wing as she is! :doh:

There are no right wing politicians in NZ, they all believe in Big government and want to totally run our lives for us! :brick:

Looks like it’s down to Otamata for lunch to give you the learn. Do you think you can give me the 'red' carpet treatment. Ha ha.:jerry:

Skyryder

[imdying]

She was told to leave, by the people really in control, or she'd end up like the last Green Party honcho ;)

[short-circuit]

Get a grip, even with your socialist bias, that's a bit rich, Key is as left wing as she is! :doh:

There are no right wing politicians in NZ, they all believe in Big government and want to totally run our lives for us! :brick:

I see the Alzheimers has kicked in....should you be allowed on a bike in your state?

[svr]

He is a Green. That enough for ya?

Yeah, green `fruitloops' want clean air, water and soil. How insane! Just because we need these 3 things to survive has nothing to do with it. What we really need is more widgets. Nobody cares why, we just do! (whadafugareya - a commie?) We have a science (kinda) to demonstrate how to produce more widgets. Lets put these `scientists' in charge of EVERYFUCKINGTHING, arm them to the teeth and ridicule anyone who questions anything. Especially Sue Bradford because shes really unattractive and dresses funny.
Well done, KBers.

[Ixion]

..(whadafugareya - a commie?) ..

You called ?

[Flatcap]

Yeah, green `fruitloops' want clean air, water and soil. How insane! Just because we need these 3 things to survive has nothing to do with it. What we really need is more widgets. Nobody cares why, we just do! (whadafugareya - a commie?) We have a science (kinda) to demonstrate how to produce more widgets. Lets put these `scientists' in charge of EVERYFUCKINGTHING, arm them to the teeth and ridicule anyone who questions anything. Especially Sue Bradford because shes really unattractive and dresses funny.
Well done, KBers.


I wasn't aware that smacking was endangering my air, water, and soil...

[Swoop]

I am quite concerned about missing the piece of shit called Badford.

So tomorrow I will be purchasing a laser range finder, a Schmidt & Bender scope and a .270.

[Manxman]

Nudey.... is there any previous history of mental illness in your family?
If you need help, I'm sure some of us can chip in for your visit to the optometrist!

Frikken brilliant. Bling earned.:laugh:

[Manxman]

Yep she’s got more balls than most in Parliament.

Flip flop Key gets caught lying to the public and English only hands back what he was rorting from the public purse because he got himself caught and ‘it’s not a good look.’

Still that's ok with some but bring into Parliment legislation that adds to the protection of children and Bradford is the epitime of evil.




However I will admit that her resignation does look a bit petulant but then in the grand scheme of things Bradford will stand hands and shoulder over Key when the history of today gets written.

Skyryder

Can't disagree with your first observation...even more than Helen, I'd hazard.

[Manxman]

I am quite concerned about missing the piece of shit called Badford.

So tomorrow I will be purchasing a laser range finder, a Schmidt & Bender scope and a .270.

...need a donation?

[Skyryder]

I see the Alzheimers has kicked in....should you be allowed on a bike in your state?

That might explain the 'off' in front of the TV crew a'while back. Sorry OR just can't help myself.:spanking:

So what's for lunch?? Road kill a la cart.:bleh:


Skyryder

[Manxman]

What's Blue, but Green?

What's Red, but Blue?

What's Green, but Red?







...the National Party, Labour Party, and Green Party, respectively.

[devnull]

Yes it was. The defence of reasonable cause. Juries were allowing this as a defence of not guilty when children were showing injuries from beatings.

Bradford's bill was the result of juries allowing parents to injure their children and walk away from what most would condemn as common assault.

Skyryder

More bullshit.

S.59 was used successfully as a defence to common assault a grand total of 8 times.

Amazing that 12% of the population were either too gullible or too stupid to actually read facts, preferring instead to believe whatever they were spoonfed.

Perhaps that 12% are the undiagnosed psychotics purported to inhabit our workplaces (the Herald said 10%, but maybe their stats weren't quite accurate)

[Timber020]

Somewhere the is a place where she will be really valued like she deserves, probably aboard a japanese whale processing ship.

[Ixion]

.. but she has been a hard-working and effective MP, unlike many others. Just because you don't agree with what she stands for doesn't invalidate that. ..

Perhaps so,and before being an MP she was a useful union organiser, but she was far too hag ridden by the hobgoblins of her own past.

Effective STATESMEN (or stateswomen) are those who rise above the concept that the world is a reflection of their own lives.

The ad feminae abuse is unnecessary and unjustified. (feminae? feminam ? MikeL , help me here)

[devnull]

Somewhere the is a place where she will be really valued like she deserves, probably aboard a japanese whale processing ship.

:laugh:

I want to see the Tui ads saying she'll be sadly missed

:jerry:

[nothingflash]

good bye and good riddance

[tomobedlam]

More bullshit.

S.59 was used successfully as a defence to common assault a grand total of 8 times.

Amazing that 12% of the population were either too gullible or too stupid to actually read facts, preferring instead to believe whatever they were spoonfed.

Perhaps that 12% are the undiagnosed psychotics purported to inhabit our workplaces (the Herald said 10%, but maybe their stats weren't quite accurate)

Or maybe it was fact reading the 11.8% done, maybe they looked at the research on the topic and drew from their experience with working some of the most challenging children in society and living in a house full of kids and made an informed decision. Sue Bradford only wrote the bill. 113 members of parliament were responsible for making it law.

[Hitcher]

Sue Bradford resigns and an another unelected person that nobody has ever heard of enters parliament. Isn't MMP amazing.

[nothingflash]

:laugh:

I want to see the tui ads saying she'll be sadly missed

:jerry:

143671
..........

[devnull]

Or maybe it was fact reading the 11.8% done, maybe they looked at the research on the topic and drew from their experience with working some of the most challenging children in society and living in a house full of kids and made an informed decision. Sue Bradford only wrote the bill. 113 members of parliament were responsible for making it law.

So 87% of the population do not have kids, do not work with kids, can't read (especially not the Otago research, or the real stats that showed that Durrant lied in her research paper)? Oh yeah - absolutely none of that 87% are in any way involved in the intervention or treatment in child abuse cases...

Or is this just one more example of socialist elitism i.e. we'll tell you what to do, how to act, what to think. We are your masters - you should be grateful. Yep - that fits, both in application and political ideology

It'll be a cold day in Hell when a person like that tells me how to raise my kids.
What's next - govt approved hugs? With a ration on amount per month?

[rainman]

What's Blue, but Green?

...the National Party

Pffffffffffffft.

[oldrider]

Looks like it’s down to Otamata for lunch to give you the learn. Do you think you can give me the 'red' carpet treatment. Ha ha.:jerry:

Skyryder

As wide apart as our politics are you are always welcome here, just don't bring Sue with you on the fanny bracket!

On second thoughts, even she would be made welcome as a visitor! :doh:

[oldrider]

What's Blue, but Green?

What's Red, but Blue?

What's Green, but Red?







...the National Party, Labour Party, and Green Party, respectively.

Exactly, they are all left wing socialists but they have to be to attract the left wing New Zealand electorate and their votes!

We get the governments that the majority deserve! :spanking: Damn it! :doh:

[tomobedlam]

So 87% of the population do not have kids, do not work with kids, can't read (especially not the Otago research, or the real stats that showed that Durrant lied in her research paper)? Oh yeah - absolutely none of that 87% are in any way involved in the intervention or treatment in child abuse cases...

Or is this just one more example of socialist elitism i.e. we'll tell you what to do, how to act, what to think. We are your masters - you should be grateful. Yep - that fits, both in application and political ideology

It'll be a cold day in Hell when a person like that tells me how to raise my kids.
What's next - govt approved hugs? With a ration on amount per month?

I don't know how 87.6% of those who voted decide how to vote the way they did. I certainly wouldn't assume that I knew. Nor do I know how the 12% that voted yes decided to vote yes. I was just raising the point that there are other reason for that 12% voting the way they did other than.


12% of the population were either too gullible or too stupid to actually read facts, preferring instead to believe whatever they were spoonfed.

)


On a side note if you have or know of any evidence that supports the use of corporal punishment please let me know.

[PrincessBandit]

What I want to know is: Did someone smack her bottom on the way out the door?

[tomobedlam]

What I want to know is: Did someone smack her bottom on the way out the door?

Priceless!!!

[Beeza]

Suh whoos gonna fletten her evry vowel so it is fletter then a pencake now?

[The Stranger]

One of the few with a spine - she obviously had an positive impact as she shook the cages of each of the KB ignoramuses, rednecks, bigots and bastards.

Enjoy your freedom Sue - you've earned it :niceone:

Fuck yeah, it's going to be sad to see the back of her.

[rainman]

Sue Bradford resigns and an another unelected person that nobody has ever heard of enters parliament. Isn't MMP amazing.

He got more votes than Garrett, and probably quite a few other sitting MPs. And lots of people have heard of him: I think he got a greater % of candidate votes than the overall party vote.

Don't be such a grouch - he's one of the good guys, mmmkay?

[devnull]

On a side note if you have or know of any evidence that supports the use of corporal punishment please let me know.

Millchamp et al (2006)

And to see Durrant's figures exposed, British Journal of Social Work (Beckett)

n.b. Durrant's one paper is what all Bradford's claims were based on, while ignoring multiple research sources clearly identifying key risk indicators of child abuse. The 690% increase in youth crime in Sweden after they did this was also ignored

[Brian d marge]

Fuck yeah, it's going to be sad to see the back of her.

eeeeewwwwwwwww not a good thought

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

an we get back to lesbians ?

and as for corporal; punishment , you want evidence...

i offer my to kids

they get the Jamacian beats


I call em over give em a good clip round the ear , when they ask why I say

because

if they cry me a river bout how life is unfair

I say "yes it is"


So????

Stephen

[Dafe]

One more Activist down.

I'll drink to that. :drinkup:

[Swoop]

...need a donation?
I was only joking...






























I wouldn't lower myself to a piddly .270.

[Pixie]

Excerpt from article: "Ms Bradford said she would be "going back to the grassroots".

Not entirely sure what the heck that means but I wouldn't be surprised if she has a rather lower support base than she thinks and is probably unemployable in the "real" world. Also pisses me off that she pushes the "I'm one of you common people" line, yet she comes from a fairly priveleged background and is well-educated.

Remember she was a career protester for the Unemployed Workers Union

A moron working for an oxy-moronic group

[Pixie]

Oh come on. The resignation of a principled MP is extremely sad and an indictment on our political system.

On the other had, she is throwing her toys because she didn't get to be boss.

Even so, I'd rather have Sue Bradford in Parliament than Peter Dunne.

I thought the greenies/stupid hippies didn't believe anyone was better than another?
Why would becoming boss matter?
They aren't hypocrites,are they?

[Pixie]

Still that's ok with some but bring into Parliment legislation that adds to the protection of children and Bradford is the epitime of evil.

Skyryder

I have to give it to her that the fact that no kids have been killed or abused since her bill,is a good thing

[Pixie]

Sue Bradford has pulled the pin??
Did she explode??

Nah,she just pulled the string on the tampon

[nothingflash]

I have to give it to her that the fact that no kids have been killed or abused since her bill,is a good thing

Fair call except I'm sure there are kids everywhere who are abused where the cases aren't reported. I guess her bill was never going to stop that though.

[Pixie]

Somewhere the is a place where she will be really valued like she deserves, probably aboard a japanese whale processing ship.

Oh,the ironing would be delicious

[James Deuce]

I thought the greenies/stupid hippies didn't believe anyone was better than another?
Why would becoming boss matter?
They aren't hypocrites,are they?
The entire global Green Party movement couldn't match Peter Dunne's levels of galling hypocrisy.

[Skyryder]

The entire global Green Party movement couldn't match Peter Dunne's levels of galling hypocrisy.

Best post by far. :first:

If there was ever a politician who puts his own interests above those that he claims to represent Dunn has got to be the consumate 'Me Me' politican.

Skyryder

[short-circuit]

The entire global Green Party movement couldn't match Peter Dunne's levels of galling hypocrisy.

He'd be in the same category as Graham (police prosecutor / upright christian / child molestor) Capill


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[Skyryder]

As wide apart as our politics are you are always welcome here, just don't bring Sue with you on the fanny bracket!

On second thoughts, even she would be made welcome as a visitor! :doh:


You know I don't need anyone to hold my 'left' hand. That Manx fellow sounds interesting.


Skyyrder

[oldrider]

The entire global Green Party movement couldn't match Peter Dunne's levels of galling hypocrisy.

The greens wanted a token Maori as co-leader!

Image is more important than hard work and loyalty!

Sue threw her toys out of the cot and left! (loyalty has it's price)

That will teach them, says Sue, they will be sorry they did that to me!

Equal opportunity is a "Green party philosophy", it appears some are more equal than others! :shifty:

And these people profess to tread the moral high ground of politics! :doh:

[SPman]

And these people profess to tread the moral high ground of politics! :doh:Tandor (who was also a very effective politician) left just before he qualified for all the life long benefits because he didn't beleive in them and didn't want to be seen rorting the trough after he left. That seems like a moral high ground to me.

[Skyryder]

Tandor (who was also a very effective politician) left just before he qualified for all the life long benefits because he didn't beleive in them and didn't want to be seen rorting the trough after he left. That seems like a moral high ground to me.

That's true. Not many know that.


Skyryder

[Swoop]

Tandor (who was also a very effective politician) left just before he qualified for all the life long benefits because he didn't beleive in them and didn't want to be seen rorting the trough after he left. That seems like a moral high ground to me.
So you are saying that Badford is rorting the system by leaving now?

[davereid]

So you are saying that Badford is rorting the system by leaving now?

She certainly has (just) reached her full entitlements for MPs perks like well paid superannuation, air travel and so on. And they all, even only slightly left perkbusters Hyde and Douglas seem to have a VERY firm grip on their ENTITLEMENTS.

Ms. Bradford will do the greens no harm in leaving. She had no interest in the environment, conservation or things green.

Bradford saw the greens as sufficiently naive to allow her to reach a position where she could pursue her marxist policies - indeed green policy appears to have slipped down this road headfirst.

[Patrick]

Even so, I'd rather have Sue Bradford in Parliament than Peter Dunne.

Nah. Get the occasional ear ringing from the megaphone at the rent a mob protests she always turned up at...

At least he was actually voted in.....


What I want to know is: Did someone smack her bottom on the way out the door?

Bwahahahahaha.... That would have been a good bit of humour....

Or did the door smack her on the arse on her way out?


He'd be in the same category as Graham (police prosecutor / upright christian / child molestor) Capill

Huh??? Don't you mean, Police "prosecuted?"

[QUOTE=SPman;1129425653]Tandor (who was also a very effective politician) left just before he qualified for all the life long benefits because he didn't beleive in them and didn't want to be seen rorting the trough after he left. That seems like a moral high ground to me.

And good on him for that. I bet she timed it "just right....."


So you are saying that Badford is rorting the system by leaving now?

Hmmmm.

But I could be wrong......

Oops... Davereid posted while I was typing.

As you were......

[Skyryder]

The greens wanted a token Maori as co-leader!

Image is more important than hard work and loyalty!

Sue threw her toys out of the cot and left! (loyalty has it's price)

That will teach them, says Sue, they will be sorry they did that to me!

Equal opportunity is a "Green party philosophy", it appears some are more equal than others! :shifty:

And these people profess to tread the moral high ground of politics! :doh:

Sort of agree with you on this. Bradford was too polarising and she was more into social issues other than green ones. One example was her leading the buy NZ made campaign for which she was bagged. I could never understand that but on reflection this may have had more to do with her style of politics other than advancement of NZ industry. Tandor on the other hand made the play for third world products and I suspect there was some discord over this in green circles

It's difficult to say what part Metiria Turei and being Maori had on her success as winning co-leadership but given that the greens have never made a play for the Maori vote I would on this score disagree.

I have no reason to suspect that Bradford's reason for quitting is other than what she has said...............but some in my political circles suspect that the death threats that she has recieved may have played a part. Who knows.

As for the moral high ground, the Greens do not claim this more than any other party. All see themselves as principled but oddly enough it is the voter who sees him/her self as the most.

Like I said OR sort of.:msn-wink:

Skyryder

[Flatcap]

I have no reason to suspect that Bradford's reason for quitting is other than what she has said...............but some in my political circles suspect that the death threats that she has recieved may have played a part. Who knows.


If every politician quit because of death threats there would be none left.

I would have thought with her militant union past she would be made of sterner stuff. She quit because she didn't get the power and recognition she wanted

[Pussy]

Or did the door smack her on the arse on her way out?



I think you'll find the door smacked her face on the wayIN

[JimO]

Tandor (who was also a very effective politician) left just before he qualified for all the life long benefits because he didn't beleive in them and didn't want to be seen rorting the trough after he left. That seems like a moral high ground to me.

yea but he came back when the other cunt died so he gets to wallow in the trough as well

[mynameis]

She'll have to go back to her previous career of, umm, that's right; Nothing.



Previous career of nothing? Have you not seen her footage from the 80's and 90's protests being dragged away on all fours by the policie :lol:





Excerpt from article: "Ms Bradford said she would be "going back to the grassroots".

Not entirely sure what the heck that means but I wouldn't be surprised if she has a rather lower support base than she thinks and is probably unemployable in the "real" world. Also pisses me off that she pushes the "I'm one of you common people" line, yet she comes from a fairly priveleged background and is well-educated.



Unemployable in the real world? There are thousands of greenies/activists and many organisations that I am sure would love to have her on board.




Earned it for the freedom she took away from the rest of us? Good f-ing riddance...so how much of a fruit-loop is this Clendon bloke?



Freedom she took away from you? Of what? You don't want to beat kids do you? And if you don't then you don't have anything to worry about at all.

There are provisions/exceptions in the law mate. A little tap on your kids hands won't put you in jail.




Still that's ok with some but bring into Parliment legislation that adds to the protection of children and Bradford is the epitime of evil.

Skyryder



Epitome of evil? You're completely missing the point here. She initiated the idea/bill. It doesn't take 1 person in parliament out of the hudreds to make legislation/laws.

If you look back I think a whooping 117 or 118 voted in favour of and there was only a handful of people who said no to it.

It's a democratic process, she's not single handily responsible for it.




She was pushed out I reckon.

Even if not, did that stupid cunt think she'd be given the position of party leader.....

-Indy



You'd tap that cunt Indy :bleh: sucky sucky time baby



If people think she is the real culprit in the anti smacking law here's something to ponder on:

Jenny Shipley initiated the idea/bill of reducing the drinking age to 18 back in 98 or 99. No one seems to be hammering National/Jenny Shipley for that.

What do you think has impacted or will have more impact in our society, 18 19 year olds drinking till they are plastered and causing trouble and crippling our health system or the anti smacking laws?

[oldrider]

She certainly has (just) reached her full entitlements for MPs perks like well paid superannuation, air travel and so on. And they all, even only slightly left perkbusters Hyde and Douglas seem to have a VERY firm grip on their ENTITLEMENTS.

Ms. Bradford will do the greens no harm in leaving. She had no interest in the environment, conservation or things green.

Bradford saw the greens as sufficiently naive to allow her to reach a position where she could pursue her marxist policies - indeed green policy appears to have slipped down this road headfirst.

All the trough dwellers know how to work the "entitlement" system! It's what they do best!

Anyway, the majority of New Zealanders are practicians of "entitlement" as opposed to "earning" their way through life!

(IMHO) If Bradford returns to politics, she will do it under a Labour ticket!

She is tailor made for Labour! :soon: They will welcome her with open arms!

Probably tempt her with ministerial offerings, may even be signed and sealed as we speak! :shifty:

[James Deuce]

What do you think has impacted or will have more impact in our society, 18 19 year olds drinking till they are plastered and causing trouble and crippling our health system or the anti smacking laws?

I don't know about you, but I was doing that quite happily without any regard for the legislation of the time. The concept was to decriminalise those darn young people in the workforce and studying at University.

I see no change in NZ society's attitude to alcohol over the last 20 years. If anything those darn young people drink less than they did in my day because they have access to better quality, less addictive drugs.

[mynameis]

I don't know about you, but I was doing that quite happily without any regard for the legislation of the time. The concept was to decriminalise those darn young people in the workforce and studying at University.

I see no change in NZ society's attitude to alcohol over the last 20 years. If anything those darn young people drink less than they did in my day because they have access to better quality, less addictive drugs.

People can waffle on about the soft side of this topic (maybe another thread)

But stats clearly show raise in alcohol related issues amongst the youth since the law change.

[short-circuit]

But stats clearly show raise in alcohol related issues amongst the youth since the law change.

Two questions:

Who's your dealer?

Where will I find them?

[mynameis]

Two questions:

Who's your dealer?

Where will I find them?

I think you've lost contact of your own dealer muppet.

[Lias]

You're the racist with the bald head and the hard rightwing views .... You're also the pussy complaining to the mods that I'm threatening to give you the seeing to you deserve .... you pathetic little pseudo-nazi

*shrug* I'm not afraid of some internet warrior calling me names or threatening to punch my head in, but it was a pretty blatent breach of the site rules so I reported it.


He'd be in the same category as Graham (police prosecutor / upright christian / child molestor) Capill

See we can agree on some things..

[oldrider]

I don't know about you, but I was doing that quite happily without any regard for the legislation of the time. The concept was to decriminalise those darn young people in the workforce and studying at University.

I see no change in NZ society's attitude to alcohol over the last 20 years. If anything those darn young people drink less than they did in my day because they have access to better quality, less addictive drugs.

The bloody media circus condemns "all" young people as "boozers and wasters", when it is really only a "small percentage of them" that are causing the drunken chaos!

Current media policy: "Keep repeating lies until they become accepted as fact"!

Why punish the majority for the sins of the few?

Leave the law the way it is and punish or educate the offenders!

I believe the majority of young people have got it right, so lets give them our support! :niceone:

[Brian d marge]

The bloody media circus condemns "all" young people as "boozers and wasters", when it is really only a "small percentage of them" that are causing the drunken chaos!

Current media policy: "Keep repeating lies until they become accepted as fact"!

Why punish the majority for the sins of the few?

Leave the law the way it is and punish or educate the offenders!

I believe the majority of young people have got it right, so lets give them our support! :niceone:


"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Plato attributes Socrates with that quote

Stephen
</pre>

[James Deuce]

People can waffle on about the soft side of this topic (maybe another thread)

But stats clearly show raise in alcohol related issues amongst the youth since the law change.

The moment you try to make a point with the phrase "stats" in it you need to ask a bunch of questions, chief amongst them is: Has the way information is collected changed in regard to the topic over a period of time?

The answer in the this case is an emphatic yes.

In my day, bouncers called you a cab, the cops told your folks to come get you, or asked your mates to get you home. The incidence of serious alcohol related incidents hasn't changed. How it is handled and recorded has.

I'm not making a moral judgement either.

[bikemike]

There is more to the Bradford bill than telling poor kiwi battlers, against their will, how to raise their kids.

The fact is, that our well-being is predicated on a society that is well, happy, confident, educated, employable, sustainably employed and productive. So our social, environmental and economic lives are as one. It is part of what it means to be 'green' to have an interest in all those things. It completely misses the point to argue that 'greens' should stick to the environment. Should National stick to trading and making money?

The economic benefits of spending to support families to raise their kids free from abuse is said by some to be one of the best ROI a state can obtain.

Bradford's bill was but one small measure attempting to push things towards an understanding that the unnecessary hardening of a child's mind will cost the child, the parents, the society as a whole. And Bradford herself was a small albeit prominent part in the whole process. We cannot live peacefully unless we can raise kids who think that it is possible to live a valued and fruitful life. We are trying to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, but it has to be done. Otherwise we all become taxed and demeaned by the damage done through abuse and poverty.

http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/timeline-anti-smacking-legislation-2936192


general rant on other posts...
How should we not think it part of the common man's domain to be well educated? You don't need to be an academic or an intellectual to see and value the benefit of education. Why would you want to remain ignorant? Why is it so cool to be suspicious of education?

Without MMP, or Protesting, the absolutely equally valuable voices of those that get sliced off by FFP would never be heard. All credit to those with spine enough to protest, to a free society, and to MMP - or better. Without these we just have mob rule. There be dragons, not just Chinese.

I do not agree with Turei's move posted, on racially based parallel legal systems - if there's a case to be made that the system is not working, it's not working for lots of sectors in lots of ways.

I hear only good things about Clendon and that's heartening. The bile on here however is depressing - regardless of the point of view held, even accounting for the fact this is a mere BB.

[klingon]

Um, the profile may not be a complete description. I couldn't possibly say whether another, non-scooter two-wheeled vehicle, f'rinstance a sportsbike, may or may not be involved in this story. :msn-wink:

...


Indeed. An SV1000S might or might not be involved in the story

I have it on good authority that there are several other bikes in his immediate family apart from the SV. For example a TL1000, a DL1000, a GSX750 (and several scooters of various pedigrees). Hmmm... I'm beginning to wonder if Mr Suzuki might have contributed to his campaign fund. <_<

Do you think it's too early to start lobbying him? I'm thinking a couple of private member's bills...

Car-free day on the Coro Loop every sunny sunday
Lane splitting in city traffic not just legal but mandatory for all two-wheeled vehicles

[klingon]

Hmmm... apparently our latest KB-MP-In-Waiting spent the day avoiding his responsibilities by doing the Coro Loop with a bunch of friends. He rides with a couple of SV1000s, a TLS, an Anniversary model Daytona, a modded R1, and a GS1200.

So if that line up went by any of you, I hope you waved! :wavey:

[oldrider]

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Plato attributes Socrates with that quote

Stephen
</pre>

True!

Well, in my opinion there is nothing wrong with the majority of our youth of today, tomorrow or any other day for that matter!

What is wrong is the agenda of the media and the people that control (apparent) world opinion!

Older generations work their guts out to give their children better education and all the things that they themselves never had!

When their children succeed in achieving their parents objectives, they are roundly condemned by the very generation that gave them the opportunity!

Who are the ones who are really confused in this world! :doh:

I'm backing the young ones, they are the future, God bless them and deliver them from the cunts of the past! :argh:

[Patrick]

I think you'll find the door smacked her face on the wayIN

Re-posted for truth and accuracy...., and because it was blardy hillarious.......


.......There are provisions/exceptions in the law mate. A little tap on your kids hands won't put you in jail.

That was the perception.

Nothing has actually changed. A smack on the hand/bum was always OK. Taking to them with lumps of 4 x 2 was never OK.

Jenny Shipley initiated the idea/bill of reducing the drinking age to 18 back in 98 or 99. No one seems to be hammering National/Jenny Shipley for that.

What do you think has impacted or will have more impact in our society, 18 19 year olds drinking till they are plastered and causing trouble and crippling our health system or the anti smacking laws?

Watch this space. Talk of raising it again is on the air............. and the referendum on the smacking was overwhelming. But then, so too was the harsher penalties and longer sentencing referendum when Labour got into power last time.

[marty]

I have to give it to her that the fact that no kids have been killed or abused since her bill,is a good thing

you are surely taking the piss

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10600016
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10597917
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10597760
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10597757
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10596693
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10596595
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10596431
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10595021
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10594308

Took 2 minutes to find these

[marty]

now here's a surprise (not)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10600002

[JimO]

you are surely taking the piss



Took 2 minutes to find these

i think he was joking

[Patrick]

you are surely taking the piss

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10600016
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10597917
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10597760
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10597757
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10596693
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10596595
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10596431
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10595021
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/child-abuse/news/article.cfm?c_id=146&objectid=10594308

Took 2 minutes to find these

Sadly, there will be more......, and will be more to come................

[Marmoot]

now here's a surprise (not)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10600002

God help us, she'll scrap public transport to save us from the smoking buses, ban cars/bikes, and hire some thugs to whip us to walk to and from work.
And smoking marijuana might become compulsory. Afterall, people that are high are less likely to smack their children.

[Patrick]

God help us, she'll scrap public transport to save us from the smoking buses, ban cars/bikes, and hire some thugs to whip us to walk to and from work.
And smoking marijuana might become compulsory. Afterall, people that are high are less likely to smack their children.

Dunno..... those fellas that hung that kiddie on the clothes line and put her in the tumble dryer were stoned on Dak, were they not?????

[Marmoot]

Dunno..... those fellas that hung that kiddie on the clothes line and put her in the tumble dryer were stoned on Dak, were they not?????

Dunno..... If he could get up and hang the kid on the clothes line, obviously he's not stoned enough, eh?

[Patrick]

Dunno..... If he could get up and hang the kid on the clothes line, obviously he's not stoned enough, eh?

Perhaps...

"He was not stoned enough..." should have been the penalty. As in a whole bunch of folk throwing rocks at the pricks head....... for hours on end or til there was nothing left, whichever comes first...........