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slofox
6th October 2009, 11:31
Had the "Little Old Lady" experience this morning...not the first of course...

Heading south on SH 39 from Ngaruawahia to Whatawhata. Entering Te Kowhai village, there is a sweeping right hander which has a merging lane on the left from a side road. This is all just inside the 50km zone...

As I enter the sweeper, I see a little white Toyota enter the merging lane, showing no sign at all of slowing down and checking for traffic on the right (ie me). So I have the alerts on orange but still expect the car to at least slow down and check.

Fat chance...sails straight on into the main flow, with nary even an acknowledgment of entering another lane...by this time, I am practically on top of the car, although well in control, having seen it all coming. I decided to enlist the assistance of the Stebel...with not a hint of effect. Fuck me, the old bitch must be fuckin' deaf...

I drop in behind and follow her through the village to the dairy, where she stops. So I stop too to see if she even knows I am there. Apparently not. She studiously ignores my presence and darts into the shop. So I pull into the next park, put the stand down and remove the helmet to await her return.

When she comes out, I smile at her and give her a wee wave, which she acknowledges. I say to her "Did you not see me back there?" She really is deaf - can't hear. She comes up real close to listen and I repeat the question. She says "NO I not see you, so sorry" in a very thick Dutch accent. So I very kindly suggested she look next time..."How about you check for traffic next time eh? I nearly banged into your car you know!"

She just smiled sweetly at me and said, again, "So sorry". And all I could say was "That's OK, no harm done..."

What can ya do? Just look out for 'em I guess and stay the fuck out of their way!

pzkpfw
6th October 2009, 11:36
I've often wondered if we need "E" signs for these folk.

(They can't help getting old, so I have some sympathy for them.)

It's like L=Learner but instead E=Elderly.

Gives us all a warning.

we'd "sell" it as E=Experienced.

(Of course, the way some L drivers/riders get bullied by other road users, maybe not a good idea...)

ital916
6th October 2009, 11:40
I would have roundhouse kicked the old bitch..might as well even out the deafness, then thrown her keys into the gutter, then punched her window in with a leather glove cos according to some "it doesnt hurt when you have a leather glove on". Then I would have stolen the shit she bought at the dairy and given her the finger. Dirty filthy cagers, animals they are, nothing but filthy animals. [p/t]

slofox
6th October 2009, 12:06
I would have roundhouse kicked the old bitch..might as well even out the deafness, then thrown her keys into the gutter, then punched her window in with a leather glove cos according to some "it doesnt hurt when you have a leather glove on". Then I would have stolen the shit she bought at the dairy and given her the finger. Dirty filthy cagers, animals they are, nothing but filthy animals. [p/t]

:rofl::killingme:rofl::killingme

Nah - there was a bunch of tough lookin' roadies there eatin' pies...they might have been on her side...

vifferman
6th October 2009, 12:11
Nah - there was a bunch of tough lookin' roadies there eatin' pies...they might have been on her side...
They mighta bin part of her posse, Bro!

slofox
6th October 2009, 12:12
They mighta bin part of her posse, Bro!

That's what I thought...or maybe even her kids..!!

ynot slow
6th October 2009, 13:20
I've often wondered if we need "E" signs for these folk.

(They can't help getting old, so I have some sympathy for them.)

It's like L=Learner but instead E=Elderly.
..)

Oh man I though L was for LESBIAN drivers,damn image dashed.

FJRider
6th October 2009, 13:26
Perhaps more road signs in Braile are needed ... :innocent:

dipshit
6th October 2009, 13:33
Dude, it's a merging lane. She isn't supposed to slow down and give way. Traffic behind her is meant to yield and allow her in.

If you were *behind* her and saw her entering... then you are the one that needs to adjust your speed to suit.

There is nothing worse than someone entering from a merging lane that slows down and tries to give way.

Unless she was beside you throughout the merged and didn't slow slightly to slot in behind you..???

YellowDog
6th October 2009, 13:43
I've often wondered if we need "E" signs for these folk.

(They can't help getting old, so I have some sympathy for them.)

It's like L=Learner but instead E=Elderly.

Gives us all a warning.

we'd "sell" it as E=Experienced.

(Of course, the way some L drivers/riders get bullied by other road users, maybe not a good idea...)
Forget the 'E' sign!

How about a big flashing 'Blue Rinse' coloured light on the roof so you can't miss the old duffers!

The old dear at the end of my road tells me she's had her leg over more bikes than I've had hot dinners and wants to ride pillion.

If only I had a helmet her size !

"Can you stop, I think my teeth flew out a few Ks back."

"Or maybe I just forgot to put them in"
(perhaps best avoided)

MSTRS
6th October 2009, 13:58
Dude, it's a merging lane.

Merge like a zip, when the traffic flow in both lanes requires it...Otherwise, it's still an intersection where the righthand rule applies.

Marmoot
6th October 2009, 14:21
What can ya do? Just look out for 'em I guess and stay the fuck out of their way!

I can sympathise with you mate. Always hate those fucken dutch asian boyracers eh?

slofox
6th October 2009, 14:24
Dude, it's a merging lane. She isn't supposed to slow down and give way. Traffic behind her is meant to yield and allow her in.

If you were *behind* her and saw her entering... then you are the one that needs to adjust your speed to suit.

There is nothing worse than someone entering from a merging lane that slows down and tries to give way.

Unless she was beside you throughout the merged and didn't slow slightly to slot in behind you..???

Nah Dip, she actually had the give way sign on her part of the road....it is a controlled lane...for those who choose to see it that is...

Even had it not been controlled, I was far enough advanced through the corner for her to slot in behind...just that I saw her coming and the alarm bells went off...we would have arrived about the same time. Course I could've hit the go fast button but it is a 50 k zone after all. More saferer that I dropped behind her like I did...

dipshit
6th October 2009, 15:06
Course I could've hit the go fast button but it is a 50 k zone after all. More saferer that I dropped behind her like I did...

So you had to slow down to drop in behind a little old lady in a merging lane.

Perhaps she has gone home to tell everyone she had an experience with a motorcyclist today. <_<

YellowDog
6th October 2009, 15:21
So you had to slow down to drop in behind a little old lady in a merging lane.

Perhaps she has gone home to tell everyone she had an experience with a motorcyclist today. <_<
She'll be dining out on her side of story for weeks!

She certainly showed you Slowfox.
(and you fell for the I'm a deaf old dear routinen - SUCKER)

slofox
6th October 2009, 15:28
Ahh well, if I made her day for her, all good...

If she'd been sixty years younger, I might have offered her a ride...

FJRider
7th October 2009, 07:24
Ahh well, if I made her day for her, all good...

If she'd been sixty years younger, I might have offered her a ride...

If you'd been sixty years older, she might have asked ... :scooter:

vtec
7th October 2009, 10:42
Haven't you people learned yet. When you use the public road, you are sharing it with all sorts of noobs and tards. Bicycle courier rule number 1. DO NOT EXPECT ANYONE EVER TO DO THEIR BIT TO NOT KILL YOU. BC rule number 2 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THE RULES, YOU ARE THUS EXEMPT FROM ALL RULES TO TAKE WHATEVER ACTION IS REQUIRED TO KEEP YOURSELF SAFE. P.S. These rules are not seen a court action defendable, so don't get caught.

This means that instead of following the speed limit which will put you in a position where someone is able to merge into you, you have to make the decision to either speed up (possibly to an illegal speed) or slow down (and risk being rear ended by a driver "that didn't see you). Or you can just put yourself in the "ghost lane" (refer to lanesplitting bible).

White trash
7th October 2009, 11:04
Don't get me started aboyt l'il ol' ladies.

Went to Woolworths with the kids the other day, pulled into the angle car parks there. As I stopped there's this silly old bird in a Toyota Corolla 3dr import thing about to back out next to me. I'm watching in the LH wing mirror as she looks over her left shoulder, LH down, out she goes, dragging the front right of her bumper a foot and a half down the side of my left rear guard.

I jump out and step out in front of her, gesturing at the big white scrape clearly visible down the side of my car and the dumb bitch just sits there staring at me.

I turn around to tell the kids to stand by the car and the old bat drives around me and off on her merry way! No appology, nothing! So I holler at the kids to get buckled up, back (carefully) out of the park and brun rubber out onto Gt South Road to get her rego details.

Some people just have no fricken regard for others or their property. I thank Christ my daughter hadn't climbed out of the car earlier, she would probably got squished between the cars.

Swoop
7th October 2009, 11:09
She'll be dining out on her side of story for weeks!
Probably a thread already started on www.kiwigrannycager.co.nz.:whistle:

"D" FZ1
7th October 2009, 11:10
Don't get me started aboyt l'il ol' ladies.

Went to Woolworths with the kids the other day, pulled into the angle car parks there. As I stopped there's this silly old bird in a Toyota Corolla 3dr import thing about to back out next to me. I'm watching in the LH wing mirror as she looks over her left shoulder, LH down, out she goes, dragging the front right of her bumper a foot and a half down the side of my left rear guard.

I jump out and step out in front of her, gesturing at the big white scrape clearly visible down the side of my car and the dumb bitch just sits there staring at me.

I turn around to tell the kids to stand by the car and the old bat drives around me and off on her merry way! No appology, nothing! So I holler at the kids to get buckled up, back (carefully) out of the park and brun rubber out onto Gt South Road to get her rego details.

Some people just have no fricken regard for others or their property. I thank Christ my daughter hadn't climbed out of the car earlier, she would probably got squished between the cars.

A Ding in the new car already Jimmy. That sucks. :(

White trash
7th October 2009, 11:34
A Ding in the new car already Jimmy. That sucks. :(
As it transpires, the mark polished off, no worries.

Funny though, a week into ownership Sue took it to the same fucken supermarket and someone scuffed the other corner of the rear bumper.

Suffice to say it goes nowhere near supermarkets now :D

klingon
7th October 2009, 11:38
I just can't wait to be a little old lady! :banana:

I will drive through every kind of intersection as if it's not there, and drive at a constant 70kph whether I'm on the open road or around town or driving over a pedestrian crossing covered in school kids (kids these days need more exercise anyway... it will do them good to jump out of my way).

In my car I will have a yappy little terrier named Rex who will be my constant companion and only friend. Rex will never criticise my driving! :D

And when some rude biker tries to remonstrate with me, I will call him 'Dear' and hold my hand up to my ear as if I am trying to hear him... but bikers make no sense so I will just pat him on the arm and say "Yes Dear, lovely day for a ride!"

Everybody will love me, I will be beyond reproach, and I will crochet doilies for all of you for your birthday. :hug:

Swoop
7th October 2009, 12:37
...driving over a pedestrian crossing covered in school kids (kids these days need more exercise anyway... it will do them good to jump out of my way).
Not a good idea. Kids are like three-toed sloths when on a crossing and all the bits are very difficult to get out of the front grille.

Cynos
7th October 2009, 12:39
I've often wondered if we need "E" signs for these folk.

(They can't help getting old, so I have some sympathy for them.)

It's like L=Learner but instead E=Elderly.

Gives us all a warning.

we'd "sell" it as E=Experienced.

(Of course, the way some L drivers/riders get bullied by other road users, maybe not a good idea...)

Talking to a coworker about this, he was telling me that in Japan they have leaf stickers for their cars - green leaf for newbies, brown leaf for old people.

Supermac Jr
7th October 2009, 12:50
Talking to a coworker about this, he was telling me that in Japan they have leaf stickers for their cars - green leaf for newbies, brown leaf for old people.

Pot smokers should also put leaves on their cars. :sherlock: Especially the ones from jamaica

MSTRS
7th October 2009, 13:01
I didn't know Jamaica made cars...

slofox
7th October 2009, 13:02
If you'd been sixty years older, she might have asked ... :scooter:

I AM sixty years older...:crazy:

slofox
7th October 2009, 13:08
I just can't wait to be a little old lady! :banana:

I will drive through every kind of intersection as if it's not there, and drive at a constant 70kph whether I'm on the open road or around town or driving over a pedestrian crossing covered in school kids (kids these days need more exercise anyway... it will do them good to jump out of my way).

In my car I will have a yappy little terrier named Rex who will be my constant companion and only friend. Rex will never criticise my driving! :D

And when some rude biker tries to remonstrate with me, I will call him 'Dear' and hold my hand up to my ear as if I am trying to hear him... but bikers make no sense so I will just pat him on the arm and say "Yes Dear, lovely day for a ride!"

Everybody will love me, I will be beyond reproach, and I will crochet doilies for all of you for your birthday. :hug:


Do you know the LilOleLady I was referring to then? 'cause that's JUST what she was like...apart from the dog bit...

Incidentally, further research suggests that she is a member of the notorious DGAR gang that lurks in Perrinpark Retirement Village at Te Kowhai....

(that's Dutch Grannies Against the Rules...)

MDR2
7th October 2009, 16:17
What can ya do? Just look out for 'em I guess and stay the fuck out of their way!


Punch her in the chops, rape her then ride off while dragging her corpse behind your bike down the main drag as a lesson to anyone else stupid enough to cross a motorcyclist.


DUH!

oldrider
7th October 2009, 16:38
She sounds like my kinda woman! :2thumbsup D'ja get her number? :cool:

Thaeos
7th October 2009, 17:29
Probably a thread already started on www.kiwigrannycager.co.nz.:whistle:

Hey your link doesn't work.

Rincewind
7th October 2009, 17:55
I would have roundhouse kicked the old bitch..might as well even out the deafness, then thrown her keys into the gutter, then punched her window in with a leather glove cos according to some "it doesnt hurt when you have a leather glove on". Then I would have stolen the shit she bought at the dairy and given her the finger. Dirty filthy cagers, animals they are, nothing but filthy animals. [p/t]

This lady is probably the Dutch Kung Fu Champion and lost her hearing listening to Mega-Deth tracks and partaking in her favourite hobby of repairing road drills.....do not mess with the unknown it's unpredictable and can be embarrassing beyond belief if you get beaten up by an old lady you would have to leave town for sure.........

MarkH
7th October 2009, 18:09
As it transpires, the mark polished off, no worries.

Funny though, a week into ownership Sue took it to the same fucken supermarket and someone scuffed the other corner of the rear bumper.

Suffice to say it goes nowhere near supermarkets now :D

Why worry, it's only a car. As long as no one scrapes the bike of course.

MDR2
7th October 2009, 19:12
Why worry, it's only a car. As long as no one scrapes the bike of course.

Shouldn't matter if it two wheels or four wheels, if you're you're proud of something (in this case, ownership of a vehicle) Other people should have the common descency to show the care and courtesy that is deserved.

If someone damages something of mine I take it very personally, it's like they have no regard for the time or effort that I personally have put into owning something nice.

Swoop
7th October 2009, 19:50
Hey your link doesn't work.
Damn!<tencarachters>

DougB
7th October 2009, 20:04
Happened to me today -a little gray haired old lady in a big car swerved onto the road beside me into the lane I was in "pushing" me out of her way. Her eyes were focused straight ahead. I got past and shook my head is in dis-belief. I hope she saw it. I was on Te Rapa stright in Hamilton.

Being a big grey haired old man does not seem make it any better.

howdamnhard
7th October 2009, 20:36
Had an old lady day today as well. The classic "if I go fast enough through the stop sign without stopping nothing can hit me " mentality . She saw me at the last moment and attempted evasive action which made it worse as I was in the process of doing the same. Managed to compensate and avoid a collision. Then followed her so that I could have a little chat regarding the road rules and stop signs but gave up when she was heading the wrong way and I could she was getting spooked. I figured she had learnt her lesson and there was no point in scaring her.
Just after that some bonce in his BMW sportscar nonchalantly pulled out in front of me( paid so much for the car that the road came with it) and then pretends I didn't exist so I reminded him of my existence when he moved over to park and I gave him an earful of my exhausts( naughty biker) as I drew alongside his ears.
Just another day on the road , rant over.:2thumbsup

White trash
8th October 2009, 09:54
Why worry, it's only a car. As long as no one scrapes the bike of course.

Be that as it may, it's "only a car" I've dreamed of owning since I was nineteen years old and searched long and hard for the "right one". I love it more than any bike I've ever owned which have always been "just a tool" for racing and doing stupid shit on.


Shouldn't matter if it two wheels or four wheels, if you're you're proud of something (in this case, ownership of a vehicle) Other people should have the common descency to show the care and courtesy that is deserved.

If someone damages something of mine I take it very personally, it's like they have no regard for the time or effort that I personally have put into owning something nice.

Exactly my sentiments. I spend a lot of time keeping this vehicle in the condition it left the factory, pisses me off someone wouldn't have the common courtesay to at least apologize for their mistake.

MSTRS
8th October 2009, 09:59
...it's like they have no regard ...

You reckon?
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slofox
8th October 2009, 13:31
Be that as it may, it's "only a car" I've dreamed of owning since I was nineteen years old and searched long and hard for the "right one". I love it more than any bike I've ever owned which have always been "just a tool" for racing and doing stupid shit on.


So what's the car then WT?

Ixion
8th October 2009, 13:38
Prb'ly just some old Ozzie clunker.

White trash
8th October 2009, 13:41
So what's the car then WT?
Vauxhall :D

Ixion
8th October 2009, 13:44
Ah. A Mk 2 Viva , no doubt.

MSTRS
8th October 2009, 13:45
Vauxhall :D

Chevette? With the Opel motor...:drool:

White trash
8th October 2009, 13:46
Ah. A Mk 2 Viva , no doubt.
When I think "Vauxhall" (sp?) it always conjures images of the PA with the wrap around windscreen you'd 100% of the time clout the corner of with your knee trying to get out of the thing.

Ixion
8th October 2009, 13:56
Worse, if you bent over to pick something off the driver's area floor (such as part of the gearchange mechanism) you'd clout the back of your head on the pointy bit. DAMHIK

slofox
8th October 2009, 13:56
When I think "Vauxhall" (sp?) it always conjures images of the PA with the wrap around windscreen you'd 100% of the time clout the corner of with your knee trying to get out of the thing.

Spelling is correct - they were the big deal car once upon a time...

So, tell us, WHICH Vauxhall?

MSTRS
8th October 2009, 13:57
When I think "Vauxhall" (sp?) it always conjures images of the PA with the wrap around windscreen you'd 100% of the time clout the corner of with your knee trying to get out of the thing.

Feck! You old enough to remember those whales?

White trash
8th October 2009, 14:03
Spelling is correct - they were the big deal car once upon a time...

So, tell us, WHICH Vauxhall?

Nah, bought a VR 215 Senator


Feck! You old enough to remember those whales?

Not really. Dad had a PB Velox when I were growing up and I found a PA in a barn or something a few years ago when I was searching for a classic car, I remember him telling me about them and the knee cracking windscreen.

MSTRS
8th October 2009, 14:06
Ah. I had a PB myself...nice car.

White trash
8th October 2009, 14:07
Ah. I had a PB myself...nice car.
Really? I thought it was a horible piece of shit, and I was only 6 or 7 LOL.

MSTRS
8th October 2009, 14:12
Really? I thought it was a horible piece of shit, and I was only 6 or 7 LOL.

For the times. For the times.
Also had A30's, Morrie Grinders, Humber 80's... The PB was a lovely bit of kit.

Ixion
8th October 2009, 14:29
Perhaps by comparison to it's peers.

The Prince Henry, now that *was* a nice Vauxhall.

And apart from the stupid knee actions , the 16/6 was not too bad. Some folk objected to the engine driven windscreen wipers, but I thought them well enough.

oldrider
8th October 2009, 14:29
I just can't wait to be a little old lady! :banana:

I will drive through every kind of intersection as if it's not there, and drive at a constant 70kph whether I'm on the open road or around town or driving over a pedestrian crossing covered in school kids (kids these days need more exercise anyway... it will do them good to jump out of my way).

In my car I will have a yappy little terrier named Rex who will be my constant companion and only friend. Rex will never criticise my driving! :D

And when some rude biker tries to remonstrate with me, I will call him 'Dear' and hold my hand up to my ear as if I am trying to hear him... but bikers make no sense so I will just pat him on the arm and say "Yes Dear, lovely day for a ride!"

Everybody will love me, I will be beyond reproach, and I will crochet doilies for all of you for your birthday. :hug:

Hey, if there are any current vacancies I would like to apply! :2thumbsup

I can answer to Rex, sit, roll over, beg and fart on command already and I'm house trained! (done a course in all that) :hug:

Any day is a lovely day for a ride and then we could go out on the bike too! :buggerd:

Shall I PM my resume? :shifty:

ManDownUnder
8th October 2009, 14:38
Merge like a zip, when the traffic flow in both lanes requires it...

I got mine merged in my zip once - metal teeth too... I was only 10 and can remember it to this day...

MSTRS
8th October 2009, 15:20
I've seen you on TV....you were a big boy for 10 :whistle:

mattian
8th October 2009, 16:23
great... now shes gonna hate every bike she sees from now on and maybe even try to run the next one off the road..... thanks alot slofox :banana:

slofox
8th October 2009, 17:27
great... now shes gonna hate every bike she sees from now on and maybe even try to run the next one off the road..... thanks alot slofox :banana:

Not at all, not at all. I was very polite and not at all vindictive...I thought my original post made that clear...but perhaps it didn't. There was no agro involved at all.

mattian
8th October 2009, 20:50
Not at all, not at all. I was very polite and not at all vindictive...I thought my original post made that clear...but perhaps it didn't. There was no agro involved at all.

haha... yeah I know. It sounds like you dealt with the situation in a very sensible and respectful manner. I wish I could be so diplomatic ! ...... I was just taking the mickey....hence the banana dance at the end :2thumbsup

rocketman1
9th October 2009, 20:07
Had the "Little Old Lady" experience this morning...not the first of course...

What can ya do? Just look out for 'em I guess and stay the fuck out of their way!

Slofox, I don't have baffles, in my Yoshis, yes you certainly know that I am following you. Many times I have pulled up behind cagers, with low burble of the v twin rumbling down the gears, (music to my ears mind) as they do, only see the cager has just heard me not seen me, they looks in the mirror and moves over. This never used to happen to me on the old Bandit with a Scorpion Can.
Yes the VTNZ pass it as it doesn't register over 100db even though you can hear me coming 2 blocks away. Maybe its the low vibration of the V twin throb that the cagers feel more than hear, whatever it works. No one could say that they dont hear me, even partly deaf cagers may feel me there, whos know... lets hope

V- twins forever..