Motobike riding and groin protection

[centaurus]

I know some people will find this post a very good reason for jokes (some of us never grow beyond the mental age or 10) but I think it's worth thinking about this issue.

I've been hearing a lot lately about how injuries in the groin area are very frequent in motorbikes accidents nowadays due to the big tanks on sport bikes. I tried searching on the internet for some statistics but couldn't find anything conclusive, just bits and pieces of information.

Using a groin protector in other sports I practice, I tried wearing it on a ride a few days ago, just to discover that it's unbearably uncomfortable on my bike (I ride a '99 ZX-6R). I had to stop at the first petrol station and take it off, that's how uncomfortable it was.

My question is, has anybody else thought about this? Are there any real statistics on this subject to be found somewhere? If the rist is major, is there any way of mitigating it? Obviously wearing a groin protector is not the answer, but on the other hand I would really hate to lose my "precious" one day when some idiot in a cage pulls in front of me or something like that.

[Lurch]

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[Headbanger]

I once bought a dirt bike off a guy after he hit a lamp post while doing a wheelie, He was never able to crack a fat from that day on. Still a virgen to this day.

On the plus side I got the bike dirt cheap.






Just thought I would share.:rockon:

[EJK]

Check out this thread. Poor CBR rider :(

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=81339

[James Deuce]

What is it with all the "I want to ride motorbikes, but....." threads lately? Who would have guessed: Crashing hurts! I might hurt bits! My identity (and brain) lives in my genitalia! My balls have no helmet!

An RC30 has an aluminium tank. Mild steel "gives" at a lot less force than aluminium. Picture an RC30 with a grapefruit sized dent just above the seat.

I have three kids conceived after that accident.

You're making a big song and dance about mental pictures, urban legends, and reading too much.

Buy a Goldwing with an airbag dude.

[StoneY]

What is it with all the "I want to ride motorbikes, but....." threads lately? Who would have guessed: Crashing hurts! I might hurt bits! My identity (and brain) lives in my genitalia! My balls have no helmet!

You're making a big song and dance about mental pictures, urban legends, and reading too much.

Buy a Goldwing with an airbag dude.

What he said

HTFU or buy a cage and live with the loss of freedom

[90s]

Finn from Bronz told me that in bike crashes with cars people who freeze up and brake end up with far more groin injuries that people who attempt to "find a gap" - even though they still hit the car they are more likely to fly over the bars rather than slide forward into the tank with the groin.

He explained it better and it seemed convincing although I do not know what his source was.

[vifferman]

Buy a Goldwing with an airbag dude.
Nah, you want some SafetyBikeTrou, now with New! Improved!! Instant-deploying Pneumatic Groinal Protection(TM).
Yes, folks, when anything hazardous, like a gas tank, ICBM, friend's foot, or drunken nymphette approaches your groinal region, rather than risk Certain Doom, or possible Manhood Mangulation, the SafetyBikeTrou(TM) will electronically detect the hazard, and the compressed CO2 canister will send a carefully controlled pulse of high-pressure gas to the Inflatablemanparts, deploying the Pneumatic Groinal Protection(TM) to form a cushioning and nigh-impenetrable barrier, preventing groinal incursion.

[Cheshire Cat]

yea, sucks when you misjudge a drive way and go up the curb!! OUCHIES!!!!! :lol: yes it even hurts the lady bits :crazy:

[slofox]

One of the advantages of the "sports seat" is the fact that microseconds before you hit the cage (or go over the cliff or whatever,) you can leap upwards and let the bike take the hit whilst you fly over the top of it all (or maybe off the cliff if you are a little slow getting airborne...). Y'know - superman style...course the landing can be a little tricky...

[vifferman]

ou can leap upwards and let the bike take the hit whilst you fly over the top of it all
The SafetyBikeTrou will take care of that for you, as the InflatableManParts catapult you into the air. :yes:



some of us never grow beyond the mental age or 108

[slofox]

The SafetyBikeTrou will take care of that for you, as the InflatableManParts catapult you into the air. :yes:


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Actually, I have a special little spark plug in the seat - just by me arsehole...if the shit is about to hit the fan, I only need to fart. The vibration sets off the spark plug which in turn ignites the fart and I have a rocket assisted ejection system...still haven't figured out the landing bit yet though...

[Insanity_rules]

There is an interesting problem with that related to Ducati super sports where the groin area is pretty protected but a sharp curve up in the tank tends to hit you in the stomach, right where it can wind you really easily.

In short nuts well protected but stomach not.

[ital916]

yea, sucks when you misjudge a drive way and go up the curb!! OUCHIES!!!!! :lol: yes it even hurts the lady bits :crazy:

Well supposedly smaking a woman in the breasts is the equivalent of smacking a dude in the nuts. Sooo...in a crash you ladies would get your groin destroyed then fall on your boobies, kinda like a double whammy of pain. Hence women should not ride bikes....its a health and safety thing.:sweatdrop

[TOTO]

Check out this thread. Poor CBR rider :(

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=81339



Actually, this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=93848&highlight=tank+vagina)is way more helpful :yes:

[steve_t]

Dunno if this was asked in one of the other threads but how far away from the tank do you guys sit?

[vifferman]

Dunno if this was asked in one of the other threads but how far away from the tank do you guys sit?
Sit?
SIT?!?!
Who sits on their bike - you have to stand at all times to be ready for the emergency exit!

srsly tho (although I was being serious), I sit where it's comfortable.

[centaurus]

What is it with all the "I want to ride motorbikes, but....." threads lately? Who would have guessed: Crashing hurts! I might hurt bits! My identity (and brain) lives in my genitalia! My balls have no helmet!

You're making a big song and dance about mental pictures, urban legends, and reading too much.

Buy a Goldwing with an airbag dude.

There is no BUT. I'm riding bikes and that's it. I am aware of the increased risks and have accepted them as a part of the equation.

That doesn't mean however that I won't try to prevent/mitigate the risks that can be prevented/mitigated. That's why we ride with helmets and protective gear. I don't think you would like to ride in your swimming trunks and jandals, lanesplitting at 100kph during rush hour in a 50kph zone, just because biking is dangerous anyway.

[centaurus]

Dunno if this was asked in one of the other threads but how far away from the tank do you guys sit?

I guess is different for every bike and for every rider, depending on the length of the legs and so...

In my case, locking my knees between the tank and the frame ( that's the place with most grip) gives me 3-5 cm clearance at the base of the tank and that position feels the most ergonomical for both ballance and quick moves in the corners. If I just go fast in straight line, I tend to shuffle back a little bit so I can duck completely and fit behind the screen, but I loose some of the poise.

[george formby]

This is a very valid thread. A few months ago an unfortunate rider on a CB1100 I belive, was taken out by a car chasis on a trailer. The hitch shaft on the trailer had snapped & it went over the top of a roundabout as the rider was coming onto it. Totally freak situation. I have seen what is left of the bike & the back of the tank is totally crushed in. Never mind the family jewels, an impact like that could shatter your pelvis.
My bike seat is raised at the front onto the tank which would offer a hint of protection but after seeing the impact damage on a bare tank I would seriously be sticking something soft onto a sportbike tank.
I have heard no knews at all how the rider has faired, if anybody knows please PM me. The accident was in Kerikeri.

[YellowDog]

Maybe a purpose made box might be an idea.

Could this be a new business idea to make heaps of cash?

My missus is a nurse and when she worked in A & E, sewing partially severed bollocks back on was quite a regular occurance.

Don't crash into anything and you won't have the problem. High sides and low slides don't cause the same damage.

Head on accidents are relatively rare and I suspect that in such an instance, your bollocks will be the least of your worries.

[slofox]

Dunno if this was asked in one of the other threads but how far away from the tank do you guys sit?

I sit as far forward as I can - actually lean on the tank. Mainly because the SVS handles better with the weight as far forward as possible....

[grusomhat]

Isn't the easiest solution to grab a mallet and pre-empt the location of ballsack hitting the tank and just make a nice dent with that; problem solved.

[dipshit]

Isn't the easiest solution to grab a mallet and pre-empt the location of ballsack hitting the tank and just make a nice dent with that; problem solved.

Have the presence of mind to stand up on the pegs just before impact and hopefully fly over the tank and handlebars of your bike rather than through them.

Especially if you ride one of these stupid things...

[MarkH]

Especially if you ride one of these stupid things...

My balls hurt just looking at that picture!

[modboy]

Rear set pegs, nicely sloping transition from seat, up through the tank, spring of the pegs as you make contact with the cage - and perform a double-salto flip. You'll be sweet.

[Zuki lover]

Groin pain is worse on a push bike - when you hit the bar ouch....:crybaby:

[Oakie]

Nah, you want some SafetyBikeTrou, now with New! Improved!! Instant-deploying Pneumatic Groinal Protection(TM).


So it's an air-bag for your ball-bag?

[gatch]

This is totally valid thread, my old spada gave me a savage whack in the sack once, fuckin BRUTAL ! As if that's not enough I went and got myself a vfr, which Honda has kindly replaced the fuel tank with what resembles a meat grinder, touching the brakes without prior reconfiguration of body results in certain doom. Rubber quoits are in order I think..

[discotex]

I'm with YellowDog. If you've hit something head-on at pace your balls are probably the least of your worries.

I'd be more worried about those occasional bumps in the road where you get kicked up and your balls get wedged against the tank when you land.

[TomJ]

I'm with YellowDog. If you've hit something head-on at pace your balls are probably the least of your worries.

I'd be more worried about those occasional bumps in the road where you get kicked up and your balls get wedged against the tank when you land.

the other painful moment in day to day riding is having your pillion shove you into the tank during unexpected or heavy breaking ....ouch x 2

[James Deuce]

There is no BUT. I'm riding bikes and that's it. I am aware of the increased risks and have accepted them as a part of the equation.


Dude, seriously, how the hell could you engineer groin protection that would be effective AND comfortable to sit on?

[James Deuce]

This is totally valid thread, my old spada gave me a savage whack in the sack once, fuckin BRUTAL ! As if that's not enough I went and got myself a vfr, which Honda has kindly replaced the fuel tank with what resembles a meat grinder, touching the brakes without prior reconfiguration of body results in certain doom. Rubber quoits are in order I think..

How the hell is it "valid"? You're all sitting around slapping each other on the back about your "genius" idea and no one has presented a solution. Not one.

Well here's one. Get a scooter, sit side saddle and wear a cricket box.

The only way you'll improve groin protection is to redesign the motorcycle from the ground up. Or buy a maxi-scooter.

[vifferman]

Or buy a maxi-scooter.
I'm confused - did you mean "maxi pad", or "maxi scroter"? :confused:

[James Deuce]

I'm confused - did you mean "maxi pad", or "maxi scroter"? :confused:
Some would say they are the same thing, but Yamaha's T-Max convinced me otherwise many years ago.

[vifferman]

Some would say they are the same thing, but Yamaha's T-Max convinced me otherwise many years ago.
Don't care.
They're still ghey.

[Cheshire Cat]

Well supposedly smaking a woman in the breasts is the equivalent of smacking a dude in the nuts. Sooo...in a crash you ladies would get your groin destroyed then fall on your boobies, kinda like a double whammy of pain. Hence women should not ride bikes....its a health and safety thing.:sweatdrop

Put a sock in it!

[rocketman1]

It was the same trip I nearly had a headon crash, ( refer survival skills this site) any way the top of hill on the Waingaro Road where the old roadworks were for about 10 years, the road has sunk again over the last few weeks, its a severe drop in the road like about 2-300mm in less than a metre, I hit that about 60kmhr, man did my nuts hit the tank hard, pissed me right off that there no warning, a man could really damage himself.
I think that there is not alot you can do except to stand up quick, if you have time. I often stand (get my arse off the seat) when I see a large pot hole or bump I cannot avoid.

Come to think of it, that wasn't the best trip I have had.

I Must get onto the local district council about it.

Reminds me, the OCC boys with their Harleys at time come up with some outrageous gimmicks like sharp designs etc on their tanks and handle bars, it makes me cringe, its not about crushing your nuts these designs would rip them them off your body if you ever hit something. OWWWCCH

[HungusMaximist]

No groin/nuts/dick, no troubles. End of story.

[Ecclesnz]

Especially if you ride one of these stupid things...
Best thing to do with that bike is sharpen the rear edge of the tank so it performs a clean slice, much easier to re-attach them that way.

:lol: