New chain troubles

[huff3r]

I'm currently struggling to get a new chain on my GN250 and the instructions it came with are super-vague.

It has a clip, and as i dont have a fancy chain riveter tool thingy i thought that the clip would do fine. Except i cant get the damned thing on, so quick question...

Am i supposed to put the other side of the connecting link on, and then the clip? Because the damned thing wont get on... or do i just use the clip? (I doubt it, seems incredibly dodgy!!)

Thanx in advance

[JayRacer37]

Yes, you definitly need both sides of the link! Then the clip holds the other side.

Chains are a pain...have fun! ;)
Also there is a specific direction the clip must point in - open end towards the back wheel on the top run of the chain I think.
As for getting the clip on...pinch the link with pliers to get more room? I've only ever used rivet links...

[Mom]

You have a connecting link to join the two ends together I assume? You, use the open linked joiner to join the ends of the chain together and then you have to use a bit of brute strength and push the clip supplied op over the lugs that protrude from the joiner link. God that sounded really vague, sorry. The joiner link should have a slot on the pins that the clip slides into. Those slots whould be just proud of the chain links you are joining.

[huff3r]

You have a connecting link to join the two ends together I assume? You, use the open linked joiner to join the ends of the chain together and then you have to use a bit of brute strength and push the clip supplied op over the lugs that protrude from the joiner link. God that sounded really vague, sorry. The joiner link should have a slot on the pins that the clip slides into. Those slots whould be just proud of the chain links you are joining.

Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

The problem is the outer half of the link doesnt sit in far enough to uncover the slots for the clip :(

[mossy1200]

Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

The problem is the outer half of the link doesnt sit in far enough to uncover the slots for the clip :(I put a nut over the protruding shaft that the circlip goes onto then squeeze one at a time bit by bit alternating from one to the other.Then your squeezing the nut not bending the links.

[slofox]

Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

The problem is the outer half of the link doesnt sit in far enough to uncover the slots for the clip :(

Done heaps of these in the past when all chains were clipped together. They can be a bugger to get sorted.

The bit that fits over the two legs of the joiner thingy - "outer half of the link" as you call it - has to be dead straight to go on properly - if it is at all crooked, it won't sit fully on. You might have to fart around with it for quite some time. But it WILL go on properly if it is lined up straight. It must sit over the two legs evenly - can't be more down one leg than the other.

When you finally get to put the clip on, you do need quite a lot of force to get it to close properly.

Hope you can understand this high tech talk...not sure I do myself...

[Mom]

Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

The problem is the outer half of the link doesnt sit in far enough to uncover the slots for the clip :(

Did you buy the joining link seperately? There is an outside chance you have a diffent sized link than the chain supplied :pinch:
It (the slot) will be visible, but only just, and yes you will have to use some strength to clip it tight.

[paddy]

Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

When I did mine I put a piece of wood on each side of my chain with holes drilled to line up with the pins, then I used a small vice to squish it all together. It took a LOT of force. I too was worried about breaking it but it seems fine.

[mossy1200]

I put a piece of wood on each side of my chain with holes drilled to line up with the pins, then I used a small vice to squish it all together. It took a LOT of force. I too was worried about breaking it but it seems fine.

Now make sure the closed end of the clip faces towards the chain travel direction.

[slofox]

Now make sure the closed end of the clip faces towards the chain travel direction.

Wot 'e said...MOST important!! Shoulda mentioned it meself...

[huff3r]

Yep, clip is on - sortof - and facing the correct direction. It doesnt quite sit correctly on the open end of the clip, but i cant seem to get it to budge any further...

[Mom]

Sort of is not how it should be, it should take at least the same or more amount of force to remove the sucker again, dont for heavens sake think "sort of" is ok will you?

Surely someone down there will see this soon and pop over to see it is on tight for you.

[huff3r]

Sort of is not how it should be, it should take at least the same or more amount of force to remove the sucker again, dont for heavens sake think "sort of" is ok will you?

Surely someone down there will see this soon and pop over to see it is on tight for you.

I thought so :(

All because i never even realised what went into looking after a bike... one of the bearings on a roller disentegrated, allowing one half of the link to sit beside the other on the original chain :crazy:

[mossy1200]

Yep, clip is on - sortof - and facing the correct direction. It doesnt quite sit correctly on the open end of the clip, but i cant seem to get it to budge any further...

If you havent quite got it correct then most likely one clip end will click in and the other wont.You need my sqeeze a small nut technic.The wood wouldnt have been hard enough contact surface.

[Mom]

I thought so :(

All because i never even realised what went into looking after a bike... one of the bearings on a roller disentegrated, allowing one half of the link to sit beside the other on the original chain :crazy:

What are your sprokets like?

[huff3r]

Ok, a little more pressure on the link, with "mossy1200"s nut trick and the clip appears to be on 100%

I'll pop by the shop 1st thing tommorow to get them to double check, as i'm getting them to have a looksee to make sure i didnt stuff my sprockets anyway..

Thanx heaps for everyones help :)

[huff3r]

What are your sprokets like?

They seem alright to my Noob eyes, i cant see any real signs of wear to be honest... apart from being mostly covered in filth

[mossy1200]

Ok, a little more pressure on the link, with "mossy1200"s nut trick and the clip appears to be on 100%

I'll pop by the shop 1st thing tommorow to get them to double check, as i'm getting them to have a looksee to make sure i didnt stuff my sprockets anyway..

Thanx heaps for everyones help :)
If you want to ride into welly in an evening this week ill show you correct maintence on chain ,adjust the tension and we will lube and adjust your cables etc.Have all the tools and lube etc .PM me

[huff3r]

Ok, one more thing to check... most probably a real stupid question...

Since its a new chain, factory oiled (its an X-ring chain), will it need oiling before use? or is it good to go straigh away?

Cheers
Paul

[mossy1200]

Ok, one more thing to check... most probably a real stupid question...

Since its a new chain, factory oiled (its an X-ring chain), will it need oiling before use? or is it good to go straigh away?

Cheers
Paul

You put the loose orings in the link while you assembled the joiner link?
The pre oil is ok for first few hundred ks

[huff3r]

You put the loose orings in the link while you assembled the joiner link?
The pre oil is ok for first few hundred ks

Yup, put the loose o-rings in, and lubed them up with the yellow goop they came with.. cool, so now its all on and adjusted i should (hopefully) be good to go... definitely gonna be more careful from now on!!