TV3 Bronz interview on now (21 Oct - 7.12pm)

[spookytooth]

on in a minet if ya read this at the right time 21/10

[vindy500]

did i miss it?

[spookytooth]

not yet:) said coming up

[unrealone]

What the heck is 7-12 oclock??

[spookytooth]

a balls up haha try pm

[unrealone]

lol fair enough.. so how many bikes are in the world was cambell lives "ponder this"

must be after the break

[BALZYBUELL]

im waiting or was i to late

[unrealone]

on now...

200 million bikes currently in use around the world btw

[bogan]

shot Les, I reckon you pulled that off very well indeed! :2thumbsup

[riffer]

Yeah nice work Ixion. You actually scrubbed up quite well. :lol:

[sunhuntin]

very well done. loved the bit about primary school maths lol. great work, ix!

heres hoping for a decent outcome for the meeting. great to see so many riders there! hope they had enough chairs. lol.

[NighthawkNZ]

Didn't like how the reported dude kept on say we caused more accidents... the pratt

[Drogen Omen]

found it...

http://www.3news.co.nz/BRONZ-President-Les-Mason-on-hikes-in-bikers-ACC-levies/tabid/367/articleID/126380/cat/67/Default.aspx

[bogan]

http://www.3news.co.nz/BRONZ-President-Les-Mason-on-hikes-in-bikers-ACC-levies/tabid/817/articleID/126380/cat/221/Default.aspx There ya go

[Brian d marge]

20 Oct 2009 9:20p.m.
How about the chance to opt out. I choose not to pay the levy's and decide if I want private insurance, or to just take care of myself. For the workplace gimme back the right to sue. NO ACC at all would be better than the stupid, broke useless system that we alone in the world have, Why is it that off all the countries that have looked at our system, no-one else has ever copied it? Answer, IT DOESN"T WORK ... NEVER HAS ... NEVER WILL





Gus who ever you are ,,,,,,Stop smoking that stuff


comment from Stuff or somewhere



Stephen

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

Good interview. Reporter hadn't really got much more than "you accept you crash more?"

Good combacks from Les - he used easy to follow/simplistic arguments that the wider public could follow.

Well done.

[McJim]

At least it's good to see the ACC figures being refuted on live primetime TV

[MIXONE]

I like the way ixion talked over the top of the interviewer.Usually it's the other way around.

[SixPackBack]

Oh Les you're so Forcefull:love:

[JMemonic]

Thanks for the link, the interviewer was basing his assumptions on figures that as was said are not in the public domain, he offered to send the figures to Ixion but seemed to fail to grasp that this information is different to what ACC themselves publish.

It would be nice for them to re-look at the information the public have been given and the information given to the media.

I like the way Ixion managed to display the difference between injuries in a car vs bike crash, but still the general public would not have understood due to the interviewers bias.

All in all a good effort, I sincerely hope BRONZ Auckland, and what remains of BRONZ around NZ have success, a coordinated effort is what we need to see here involving all motorcycle clubs, (excluding gangs, sorry but you guys give the public the wrong impression even if its unintended). Its a shame not all regions have a BRONZ any more, and no I will not put my hand up for the local region my working hours don't allow it.

[terbang]

Watched it here in Saudi Arabia... Ixion, brilliant...

[zahria]

Great interview, you came a across very well.

[Pussy]

Excellent stuff, Les! Bloody well done!!

[Kevnz]

Excellent to have this gentleman representing us. :woohoo:

[Supermac Jr]

Les for Prime Minister, or ACC Chairperson!!!!

[chrispy121]

i worked out with work and registrations I am paying 2k per year I am sure I can get insurance for less than that.
they wont bring back to right to sue or the councils will go broke with us suing them for the bad road conditions that cause accidents

[MyGSXF]

Top effort!!! :2thumbsup

[NighthawkNZ]

i worked out with work and registrations I am paying 2k per year I am sure I can get insurance for less than that.
they wont bring back to right to sue or the councils will go broke with us suing them for the bad road conditions that cause accidents

plus ACC in fuel

[Skyryder]

20 Oct 2009 9:20p.m.
How about the chance to opt out. I choose not to pay the levy's and decide if I want private insurance, or to just take care of myself. For the workplace gimme back the right to sue. NO ACC at all would be better than the stupid, broke useless system that we alone in the world have, Why is it that off all the countries that have looked at our system, no-one else has ever copied it? Answer, IT DOESN"T WORK ... NEVER HAS ... NEVER WILL


Not according to this guy.

“For the Government to wrap legitimate concerns about slippage in ACC's performance in a whole lot of shrill scaremongering and scapegoating is gratuitous. …ACC is a civilised and cost-effective approach to dealing with the injured. Why undermine confidence in the scheme, unless you plan to undermine the scheme itself?”
Brian Fallow, Economics Editor, NZ Herald, March 12, 2009


Skyryder

[Pedrostt500]

Good Interview, well done Ixion, Illijitimus Tatum Noncarborundum, never let the bastards grind you down.

[Naki Rat]

Thanks for the link, the interviewer was basing his assumptions on figures that as was said are not in the public domain, he offered to send the figures to Ixion but seemed to fail to grasp that this information is different to what ACC themselves publish.
.....

The interviewer was just a typical journo that have absolutely no grasp of mathematics, or basic numeracy for that matter. He was just reciting something he had read somewhere with no understanding of its actual meaning :doh:

I deal with numbers as the basis of my profession and to hear news stories with feet to metres conversions completely cocked up, and millimetres mistaken for centimetres or even points of metres just cracks me up at times :lol:

And well done Mr. Ixion. Seems you acted on the well known addage "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." :2thumbsup

[NighthawkNZ]

The interviewer was just a typical journo that have absolutely no grasp of mathematics, or basic numeracy for that matter. He was just reciting something he had read somewhere with no understanding of its actual meaning :doh:

he also doesn't grasp that ACC is fine and working has 11b in the bank and not broke, nor is it loosing money and banked 1b last year... and will do the same next year...

[oldrider]

found it...

http://www.3news.co.nz/BRONZ-President-Les-Mason-on-hikes-in-bikers-ACC-levies/tabid/367/articleID/126380/cat/67/Default.aspx

Well done Les, I thought you represented us with dignity and style, thanks John. :first: (and above all, reason)

[Mully]

Nicely done Les.

I turned up just as they were packing up the camera - I guess they didn't want my mug on the telly.....

[MadDuck]

Oh Les you're so Forcefull:love:

Scrubs up quite well ah? Almost didnt recognise him.

Great turnout at short notice and well run and controlled meeting.

[rainman]

20 Oct 2009 9:20p.m.
How about the chance to opt out. I choose not to pay the levy's and decide if I want private insurance, or to just take care of myself.

So who pays for the injuries you cause?

[Thani-B]

Woop Im on camera! Well I walk past anyway. Good onya Les, good interview, and was a good meeting, glad I went.

[shafty]

Well done Ixion, just viewed your professional responses here in Bahrain - bloody well done! :2thumbsup

[PirateJafa]

Get a perm.

[The Stranger]

Well done Les, I thought you represented us with dignity and style, thanks John. :first: (and above all, reason)

Not normally into +1, but I got to agree.
I think it couldn't have been better.

[knuckles24]

Good one les, keep it up, but man get rid of that suit and get your bike gear on. :banana:

[yungatart]

Well done Les.
"More crashes than what?"...priceless!

[Brian d marge]

Not according to this guy.

“For the Government to wrap legitimate concerns about slippage in ACC's performance in a whole lot of shrill scaremongering and scapegoating is gratuitous. …ACC is a civilised and cost-effective approach to dealing with the injured. Why undermine confidence in the scheme, unless you plan to undermine the scheme itself?”
Brian Fallow, Economics Editor, NZ Herald, March 12, 2009


Skyryder

that is what middle New Zealand is saying ,,,, ( i snipped it from the letters to the editor )


I swear I always astounded at the level of stupidity I see in NZ

Today the Government said ACC would be investigated so National and ACT have struck a deal over ACC reform that will see the Government investigate opening the work account to competition.


Dont go down this path please


Stephen

[dipshit]

That came across quite good actually!

At least it wasn't just another... "waaaa, most motorcycle crashes are caused by car drivers, waaaa"

Thank christ for small miracles i suppose. ;)

[Brian d marge]

So who pays for the injuries you cause?

not me,,,,Gus ,,,

Gus the plumber seems to think that the right to sue is a good idea


As for me I am supporting my community,

period

Stephen

[AD345]

Not to rain on everyone's parade, but...

Ix - ya need to learn not to look upwards and sideways when recollecting info. Makes you look like you're rolling your eyes at best and shifty at worst.

other than that - not bad son.

[rainman]

not me,,,,Gus ,,,

Oops, my bad. Sorreeeee! :)

[FastBikeGear]

Nice maths Les well done mate!

So the educated doctor says that we will cost each and every owner of a licensed vehicle would need to pay an extra $77 to fund motorcycle accidents.

Les does some quick maths and works out that 3 million (number of registered vehicles) times $77 is over 200 million and points out that seeing as ACC claims total motorcycle related ACC claims cost only $63 million that Motorcyclists won't need to pay any ACC levies.

Smart ACC spokesman (with doctorate) says he's suprised the numbers don't add up and that they have been independently verified by Price Waterhouse etc.

Obviously a doctorate and too higher salary interferes with your ability to do intermediate school level maths.

Will some university please give Les and honory maths doctorate. He sure deserves a doctorate more than the other 'highly educated' bloke.

Well done Les!

What the hell did this guy get a doctorate for - it sure wasn't economics or maths. Was it tap dancing or spinning?

[Kiwi Graham]

Well done les, thanks for representing us and presenting a valid argument. You made the ACC dude look very uncomfortable, lets hope the non biking public saw that too and support us.