Hi-Vis vest designs

[Azi Dahaka]

Here is my contribution to all of this

Already have had a couple of information requests about where and when for this from a couple of bikers so a couple more people are coming to the ride.

Would anyone protest to me adding www.kiwibiker.co.nz to the bottom of the jacket?


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2828&pictureid=33227

[klingon]

Here is my contribution to all of this

Already have had a couple of information requests about where and when for this from a couple of bikers so a couple more people are coming to the ride.

Would anyone protest to me adding www.kiwibiker.co.nz to the bottom of the jacket?


LOVE IT! :eek:

Please may I use your image for my own nefarious purposes? :shifty:

[davereid]

Would anyone protest to me adding www.kiwibiker.co.nz to the bottom of the jacket?

Great idea, I'm off to find a pen..
I'm sure no one would have a problem with kiwibiker web sire being on there. Spankme is the owner of the url.. bring it to his attention if you are concerned.

[Azi Dahaka]

LOVE IT! :eek:

Please may I use your image for my own nefarious purposes? :shifty:

what would this purpose be

[klingon]

what would this purpose be

I am distributing fluoro yellow vests and marker pens at bike gatherings and suggesting people draw their own slogans on the back of the vest. Yours may give them some ideas.

Either that or I might photoshop John Key's face over yours and send the pic to the media. :shifty:

[PhantasmNZ]

Missed the print-run - but didn't wanna miss out - hope you guys don't mind me using your images (I didn't think you would since it's a no-profit thing). Spend some time with my printer and a hot iron and made up a cheapo flouro vest to go over my jacket... (included a plug for the bikers against acc site on it too for anyone who didn't know what it was all about)..

Anyways let me know if it's a problem!

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs112.snc3/15933_161199272191_827322191_2622812_5875131_n.jpg

[zahria]

Missed the print-run - but didn't wanna miss out - hope you guys don't mind me using your images (I didn't think you would since it's a no-profit thing). Spend some time with my printer and a hot iron and made up a cheapo flouro vest to go over my jacket... (included a plug for the bikers against acc site on it too for anyone who didn't know what it was all about)..

Anyways let me know if it's a problem!



I Like your work, thats a good effort... now to kick the kids off the computer...

[sunhuntin]

how did you manage to not melt your vest?
more details please, cos i wouldnt mind doing similar. it looks professional, the way its not got white bits.

great job!

[klingon]

how did you manage to not melt your vest?
more details please, cos i wouldnt mind doing similar. it looks professional, the way its not got white bits.

great job!

I have the same questions! :wacko:

The instructions on my iron-on transfer sheets say the iron must be very hot and the fabric must be cotton or similar to handle the heat. What brand of transfer are you using? It looks very effective!

[grusomhat]

Not that I'm an expert but I'm pretty sure if you don't actually touch the nylon with the iron it would be fine. You want evenly spread heat, not concentrated. Possible try brown paper over the back of the transfer when doing it.

I'm only guessing though so will be interested in how Phantasm did it.

[PhantasmNZ]

Hey guys... thanks for the praise ! I was quite impressed with how it came out myself :)

My transfer sheets were pretty generic (I'll check the brand later if you like) - and they too told me to use the highest setting for the transfer...

The vest is Polyester and I bought it for the princely sum of $3.80 from the 3-2-1 dollar store @ glenfield mall (after looking seemingly everywhere else for one!)

The vest says do not iron, and google told me that polyester should be ironed at about 1/3 - 1/2 temp. I first thought "bugger this'll never work" and my attempts at 1/2 temp went nowhere.

The $4 vest increased my braveness though, and I edged up the temp on the iron to about 80-85% of max and kep pressing hard. It took longer than it has done in the past on cotton t-shirts at full temp - but as you can see it worked pretty good.

Some of the bits were quite narrow (such as the web address), and I was worried about putting full heat on the vest - but in the end it didn't seem to matter - I even ironed over the reflective stripe - but it was all good :) - go the 321$ shop!

I used 2 sheets - the text and ACC/Nat logo are A4 Landscape width so al lthe text was done in landscape and the target on another sheet (with a smaller version of the whole thing that's on one side at the front)

If anyone wants the layouts, I'm happy to post them.....

[sunhuntin]

might have to look around for one that i dont mind melting. lol.

how did you get it on without having a background? or does only the bit with color get transferred?

[PhantasmNZ]

only the colour gets transferred on transfers "for white shirts". If I had any of the "for black shirt" transfers at the time, i would have done the ACC logo bit with that cos the blue ends up a bit green-y

[sunhuntin]

kool, thanks for that. gotta get some sticker paper tomorrow so will look for cheap transfer paper while im there and also a cheap fluoro from somewhere. i do have one, but its orange and i dont think it would show so well.

please do post the layouts. im hopeless with stuff like that! :hug:

[Maha]

Hey guys... thanks for the praise ! I was quite impressed with how it came out myself :)

My transfer sheets were pretty generic (I'll check the brand later if you like) - and they too told me to use the highest setting for the transfer...

The vest is Polyester and I bought it for the princely sum of $3.80 from the 3-2-1 dollar store @ glenfield mall (after looking seemingly everywhere else for one!)

The vest says do not iron, and google told me that polyester should be ironed at about 1/3 - 1/2 temp. I first thought "bugger this'll never work" and my attempts at 1/2 temp went nowhere.

The $4 vest increased my braveness though, and I edged up the temp on the iron to about 80-85% of max and kep pressing hard. It took longer than it has done in the past on cotton t-shirts at full temp - but as you can see it worked pretty good.

Some of the bits were quite narrow (such as the web address), and I was worried about putting full heat on the vest - but in the end it didn't seem to matter - I even ironed over the reflective stripe - but it was all good :) - go the 321$ shop!

I used 2 sheets - the text and ACC/Nat logo are A4 Landscape width so al lthe text was done in landscape and the target on another sheet (with a smaller version of the whole thing that's on one side at the front)

If anyone wants the layouts, I'm happy to post them.....

Dont waste time posting the layouts, just come up here and do it for me....:whistle:
I have two vests waiting to be enhanced....;)
Seriously, you have done a great job and the plus side is, you didnt have to buy a shirt two sizes bigger than you normally would....

[klingon]

...
If anyone wants the layouts, I'm happy to post them.....

Yes please! :hug:

[PhantasmNZ]

Have Fun - to be printed on A4 T-shirt transfer (remember to use the t-shirt transfer setting on your printer, or mirror image the pics before printing!!)

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Any AKL'ers want to have a closer look, I'm hoping to make it down to the thing @ the TelstraClear centre in manakau this weekend.....

Cheers :) :) :)

Steve

[sunhuntin]

ok, i clicked your links and got webserver technical notes.

"Our guide continues and we are explaining webserver error codes in this comprehensive guide. The 403 Forbidden HTTP status code indicates that the client was able to communicate with the server, but the server doesn't let the user access what was requested." :wacko:

[Mom]

Have Fun - to be printed on A4 T-shirt transfer (remember to use the t-shirt transfer setting on your printer, or mirror image the pics before printing!!)

http://phantasmnz.getfreehosting.co.uk/Bikers%20AgainstACC.png
http://phantasmnz.getfreehosting.co.uk/Bikers%20AgainstACC2.png

Any AKL'ers want to have a closer look, I'm hoping to make it down to the thing @ the TelstraClear centre in manakau this weekend.....

Cheers :) :) :)

Steve


Appears we cant access those files.

[Nitzer]

ok, i clicked your links and got webserver technical notes.

"Our guide continues and we are explaining webserver error codes in this comprehensive guide. The 403 Forbidden HTTP status code indicates that the client was able to communicate with the server, but the server doesn't let the user access what was requested." :wacko:

Yep...made for a fascinating read on my early shift :zzzz:

[PhantasmNZ]

Sorry guys - seems to only work occasionlly for some reason - try this link... Vest Transfers hosted on Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=371a21aa5bc71cac07258ee67c679e4aacd3fd1f bb10e629f7e866bfb1230ce0)

[Mom]

Sorry guys - seems to only work occasionlly for some reason - try this link... Vest Transfers hosted on Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=371a21aa5bc71cac07258ee67c679e4aacd3fd1f bb10e629f7e866bfb1230ce0)

Cool, thank you for this.

[James Deuce]

OMG. I not sure I want to swim in a sea of conformist "radicals".

Why does everything to do with motorcycling end up being a one giant chorus of "Look at me"?

One thing I do know for sure.

I'm wearing an open face helmet, jeans, T-shirt, and no gloves to the Bikoi. They'll all be black too.

[klingon]

OMG. I not sure I want to swim in a sea of conformist "radicals".

Why does everything to do with motorcycling end up being a one giant chorus of "Look at me"?

One thing I do know for sure.

I'm wearing an open face helmet, jeans, T-shirt, and no gloves to the Bikoi. They'll all be black too.

Errrm... one small point:

The entire purpose of a protest is to say "look at me and look at how many of me there are!"

Please feel welcome to have your quiet and shy protest, on your own, dressed in black, behind closed doors.

The rest of us will be out there shouting "look at me!"

[James Deuce]

Errrm... one small point:

The entire purpose of a protest is to say "look at me and look at how many of me there are!"

Please feel welcome to have your quiet and shy protest, on your own, dressed in black, behind closed doors.

The rest of us will be out there shouting "look at me!"

That's not what I meant and you know it.

[James Deuce]

In fact on reflection, I'm positive I don't want to be seen with people who wear fluoro vests when they ride, especially on a protest run protesting being singled out to pay more levies for something regarded as risky.

The connotative paradoxes inherent in the "statement" are mind-boggling and hand "them" an incredible amount of PR material.

[vifferman]

I think for maximum "Look at me! LOOK AT MEEEE!!!" impact, we should all make like James' sig pic, slather ourselves in flammable gel, and ride down the road on fire. That would surely make the headline news everyhwere.

[James Deuce]

Works for Buddhists.

[Str8 Jacket]

In fact on reflection, I'm positive I don't want to be seen with people who wear fluoro vests when they ride

Maybe if we all wore great big fluro strap-ons then we'd get noticed?

[James Deuce]

Some of us don't need a strap on, but you fill your boots sweety.

[PhantasmNZ]

I have no intention of getting into a flame war here, and I don't think infighting amongst ourselves is particularly productive - I also appreciate I'm the newbie here.

Have you considered that hoardes of riders shunning their PPE, and removing every shred of clothing that makes us more visible to the tunnel visioned, half blind cage driver whose busy adjusting the radio and talking on the cellphone whilst eating a pie - might hurt our image as responsible riders getting a less than fair go. Maybe we should all turn our headlights out as part of the protest too?

There is no doubt that riding a motorcycle is risky - there's not a cage pilot I know who would be fooled into thinking bikes are safer because it's rider wears nothing but a g-string and jandals...

In my opinion (and I'll stress it's nothing but opinion!), showing that we understand the risks and are doing our best to mitigate those risks (and reduce the chance of injury (read: ACC spend)) by wearing appropriate PPE if that goes wrong! does nothing to hurt the image.

I maybe should clarify that I'm not a safety nerd, my leathers gloves, boots and cordura jacket are black, my bike is charcoal grey, but I do wear them all and my fullface lid when I ride. I wear a high vis waterproof jacket when it rains cos cage drivers limited ability to navigate our roads halves in bad weather. The Hi-Vis protest vest was my idea to reduce the need to pull on and off a t-shirt everytime I ride (every day rain or shine) - and, yes, as Klingon pointed out - "look at me" is the whole point.

That said - even if you don't want to - I'd be more than happy to ride with you on a protest run Jame - we need to all stick together in this.

slight aside though - I have been thinking that some cage drivers will not get the graphics - you could view the whole design as being just a pro-safety message if you didn't know about the levy protest. Thinking of adding some words to my jacket like "say no to ACC lecy hike" or something to push the point home - anyone got any ideas?

[klingon]

Well said, PhantasmNZ. Don't worry, you'll get used to JII soon enough. It's not his fault he's grumpy and lives in Lower Hutt. :pinch:

[James Deuce]

Phantasm, they can't see you. It doesn't matter what you wear. There's a great deal more science around why hi-vis clothing doesn't work, than around why it works. The stuff supporting its application in motorcycling tends to come from Government cost accountants or manufacturers like 3M.

I don't care what you wear. Seriously. It's your choice. All I said is that I don't like riding or hanging out with Hi-Vis clothing wearing motorcyclists. They tend to be tedious conversationalists and have below average road sense.

My comment about "look at me" is based on the fact that NZ motorcyclists have operated in a daze for years and seldom question how laws affect them until it hits them in the pocket, and then everyone is the hero fighting the good fight. "Loot at me, I'm saving the world!".

We've had a couple of decades to apply consistent, strong pressure at Government level to remove motorcycle ACC levies, but we've chosen to let all the politically active elements of motorcycling whither and die, and then criticise their performance just as the brown stuff hits the fan.

Too late.

[Laxi]

Some of us don't need a strap on, but you fill your boots sweety.

Jim's a taker not a giver:lol:

[klingon]

... I don't like riding or hanging out with Hi-Vis clothing wearing motorcyclists. They tend to be tedious conversationalists and have below average road sense...

Yeah, sorry about that. I will attempt to improve my conversations in the future and try to pay more attention to the road. It's just distracting when I keep seeing my glowing yellow self reflected in my chrome handlebars. :weep:

[Azi Dahaka]

i do have to admit i hate wearing fluro vests but for the purpose of advertising this event i am and after that NEVER AGAIN. i have gotten so manny question from service stations and other bikers about the bikoi so as far as i am concerned it is a success

[sunhuntin]

Errrm... one small point:

The entire purpose of a protest is to say "look at me and look at how many of me there are!"

Please feel welcome to have your quiet and shy protest, on your own, dressed in black, behind closed doors.

The rest of us will be out there shouting "look at me!"

ummmmm.... all my gear is black as well. tried it all out today and lets just say i hope its not a dull day! plus i look like a mobster. lol.
i will be wearing a fluro though. and have even managed to find a full face helmet [ick!] and will wear full gloves. im undecided about wearing the bike pants... they are too small and horrid to ride in.

im gonna get a pack of transfer paper as well as sticker, and will attempt to put that on a fluro, and am also going to put one on a black tshirt in the event of the site one not arriving on time.

klingon... just a note with hi viz vests: i was looking at some second hand and many said warm iron was ok, so it must depend on the type i guess. i didnt find one that fit my criteria though, damn it.

[Mom]

I am actually with J2 here, it makes not a blind bit of difference what we wear, we are not seen. I never wear fluro anything. The only time I wore one was doing a fundraising ride last year, it has languished on a peg in the garage since.

However, I have dusted it off for this and am about to apply some transfers to it so I can wear it over my gear on the road. I have my t-shirt for under the gear on its way, right now this is the fastest way I have of getting the message seen. I am not doing it to be safe, but I most certainly am doing it to be noticed.

[R-Soul]

Hey guys... thanks for the praise ! I was quite impressed with how it came out myself :)

My transfer sheets were pretty generic (I'll check the brand later if you like) - and they too told me to use the highest setting for the transfer...



And where do you get the transfer sheets? I have no idea where to start looking.

:wacko:

[sunhuntin]

And where do you get the transfer sheets? I have no idea where to start looking.

:wacko:

i have seen them at kmart many years ago. warehouse stationary should have them too.

[Maha]

And where do you get the transfer sheets? I have no idea where to start looking.

:wacko:

We got ours from Paper Plus $24.95 for Five A4 sheets.

[AllanB]

What's this IRON thing you men speak of? Is it a new model of Harley?

[Maha]

What's this IRON thing you men speak of? Is it a new model of Harley?

Im not too sure myself but Mom says we have one and knows where its kept.

[retro asian]

While it won't stop a car not seeing you, I think yellow can make a difference.

A fellow Kb'er I ride with once wore one of these:
<img src="http://assets3.revzilla.com/product_images/0002/7623/River_Road_Rainstorm_2-Piece_Yellow_Rainsuit_Yellow_listing.jpg">

I could see him from miles and miles away. Couldn't tell it was a bike tho, all you could see was this bright yellow figure with arms and legs outstretched...flying towards you :lol:

[Ms Piggy]

Why does everything to do with motorcycling end up being a one giant chorus of "Look at me"?
Look at moiye, look at moiye, look at moiye pluuuse! I've got 1 word to say to you!

http://snarkerati.com/tv-news/files/2008/01/kathandkim.jpg

[PhantasmNZ]

klingon... just a note with hi viz vests: i was looking at some second hand and many said warm iron was ok, so it must depend on the type i guess.

The one I bought for $4 had a do not iron symbol on the label :) it was 100% polyester, and damn it - I ironed it :)

[James Deuce]

I hope it wasn't SWMBO's best iron!

[Maha]

Got ours done, took a bit because our iron is that shirt hot ....:weep:

[Jantar]

And where do you get the transfer sheets? I have no idea where to start looking.

:wacko:
I just bought some from Dick Smith. the local branch didn't have any so I ordered a pack online. I only placed the order yesterday and they arrived today.

[grusomhat]

Nice work people.Saw one of the high-vis vests with the design on the news yesterday. (At Ulysses protest)

[munster]

because it's rider wears nothing but a g-string and jandals...

What about a blaze g-string, with bullet loops

<a href="http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/munster4x4/?action=view&current=StoneyCreekBlazeG.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/munster4x4/StoneyCreekBlazeG.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[retro asian]

Good to see one on TV last night...even though just for a split second or so...

[newbould]

I have worn fluro since RRRS course and now forget I have it on. But I have to say I have doubts about drawing a target on the back. Seems a bit counter productive - I ride like I'm a target but don't want to encourage anyone into that belief

[klingon]

UPDATE: You can now order hi-vis vests and other fund raising merchandise from the Scary Bikers Sewing Circle:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1129489649#post1129489649

[RevDWC]

I just tried the Mediafire link and it came up blank. Is it still possible to get the graphic and print my own? I've got a few transfers handy.

[PhantasmNZ]

I just tried the Mediafire link and it came up blank. Is it still possible to get the graphic and print my own? I've got a few transfers handy.

Well.... although I did originally post them out for free... the transfer layouts have been now donated to the fundraising effort of the Scary Bikers Sewing Circle.

All is not lost however - drop a request on the Scary Bikers fundraising thread and for a small donation to the fundraising efforts, I'll send the files for self-printing

Cheers

:)

[RevDWC]

Will do, thanks for your help.