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Maha
31st October 2009, 19:38
Mully, and my good self, have been nutting out an Auckland ACC Protest ride.


Auckland - Rolling Protest Ride

When: Saturday 14th November (reserve day is the following Saturday in case of rain)

Where: Starting, Dairy Flat Autobahn (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=New+Zealand&ll=-36.659873,174.66698&spn=0.00321,0.006866&t=h&z=18) (point A) ending Auckland Domain/Museum (point B).

Time: Assemble in the car park of the BP/Burger King/Autobahn from 9am onwards. Please make sure you are fully gassed up, fed, watered and relieved before 10am! All facilities are onsite for your convenience.

Depart: 10am


This is a rolling protest ride covering the wider Auckland area, point A to point B, non stop.


Please bring your flags/banners/noise makers etc. At all times this ride will be orderly and law abiding. We are NOT deliberately setting out to inconvenience the motoring public of Auckland. This is about making our presence felt and a chance to express our angst about this psycho levy proposal.

We will be using the standard rules around riding in a group, staggered formation please.

The speed out of the Autobahn car park will be slow until all bikes are on the motorway and grouped together, then a maximum speed of 90 kph will be adhered to on the motorway system at all times.


*RIDE BRIEF AT 9.40*
Please register your attendance here

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2233&day=2009-11-14


Teddy Bear run for Heart Children

'Please ensure that teddy bears are brand new then put in a plastic bag'

This Protest Ride will now include 'Heart Children'
A Teddy Bear is required to hand over at the end of the ride.
The Media will love this.

There will be Protest Resources avaliable for purchase at the Domain - Fundraising to support the Protest (War Chest)
Read all about in here..
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=111452

Maha
31st October 2009, 19:38
• Heading North from the Autobahn to the Silverdale off ramp/then heading back into Auckland City.

• Harbour Bridge, we will be using Lane 4 only. That will take us onto the North Western Motorway without lane changes.

• We will use the two outside lanes of the North Western.

• At the end of the North Western, we will use the light controlled round-a-bout and head back towards the city using the Lane Marked Hamilton/South (Southern Motorway)

• Once on the Southern Motorway we will stay in Lane 1 heading for Papakura.

• Taking the Papakura/Karaka off-ramp crossing the Motorway and make our way back into the City

• Exit the Motorway at the Wellesley Street off ramp and head for the Auckland domain.

• Lower Domain Rd is off Stanley Street.

• There will someone on point at the entrance to the Domain.

• Finishing up at the Auckland Museum.

There may well be a few people that want to talk when we get there.

AD345
31st October 2009, 19:47
Poker run?

Protest ride?

Poker run?

Protest ride?

Poker run?

Protest ride?

Poker run?

Protest ride?


shitshitshitshit brain is locking up

AD345
31st October 2009, 19:55
Dunno, but there's a good one on the 14th

gtr boy
31st October 2009, 20:01
Dunno, but there's a good one on the 14th

tell me more:yes:

MadDuck
31st October 2009, 20:04
Theres a Poker run on Sunday the 15th?


Dunno, but there's a good one on the 14th

Nothing on the KB calender about a Poker run.

I will be there Maha. No date is going to suit all people and if events arent advertised then its tough to not clash.

Good on you and Mr Mully for organising this.

Maha
31st October 2009, 20:10
Dunno, but there's a good one on the 14th


tell me more:yes:

If we could keep to the topic I would appreciate it.

AD345
31st October 2009, 20:10
Nothing on the KB calender about a Poker run.

I will be there Maha. No date is going to suit all people and if events arent advertised then its tough to not clash.

Good on you and Mr Mully for organising this.

Yeah good effort team.:2thumbsup

MD - there's a bucket load of organised runs that don't cross the gates of KB. This is just one that our club has been invited to and I'm having a need/want dilemma is all.

Nuthin to do wif KB as a whole - just my personal pain.

BTW - I think the Redeemed have something on on the same weekend, some sort of charity run

GOONR
31st October 2009, 21:28
Dilema! If you want everyone to be legal, then I, and probably a couple of others will have to leave early. I can only "legally" do 70 dumb ass law :bash: Either way it's going in my diary and I'll see ya there. :woohoo:

Maha
31st October 2009, 21:47
Dilema! If you want everyone to be legal, then I, and probably a couple of others will have to leave early. I can only "legally" do 70 dumb ass law :bash: Either way it's going in my diary and I'll see ya there. :woohoo:

I will control the speed and chances are the overall speed wont be 90kph for any length of time, you will be fine.

Maha
1st November 2009, 08:14
We will keep this rediculous ACC Levy issue in the public eye.

We wont let go
We wont just roll over and say ''ah fuck it, its all good''.

Any increase in the ACC levy part of the (motor vehicle registration) should be fair and just for all those that (who at anytime) may need ACC cover.

To simply lay blame and target bikers is just not acceptable.

And to the many non-biker people I have spoken to over the last few weeks about it, they all feel our plight is totally justified.

We are all voters right?

We are the minority of road users so I guess, in the Governments eyes, we are the Easy Target.
Well, the Easy Target is here for the duration and beyond.

And to combine this ride with Heart Children is just an added bonus.

Kiwi Graham
1st November 2009, 08:29
+1 mate.

Ive experienced nothing but support from non bikers.
'Good luck bud' from strangers in the gas station, toots from truckies and cars when parked up outside our fearless leaders kumeu office, 'Its not fair' from people at work, neighbours have old and young have said they support our plight. I'll be there mate on the mighty 14 making up the numbers.

Maha
1st November 2009, 08:42
+1 mate.

Ive experienced nothing but support from non bikers.
'Good luck bud' from strangers in the gas station, toots from truckies and cars when parked up outside our fearless leaders kumeu office, 'Its not fair' from people at work, neighbours have old and young have said they support our plight. I'll be there mate on the mighty 14 making up the numbers.

Cheers Graham, yes last thursday promted the idea of getting out there and getting moral support form the other road users. Yesterday at the Puhoi, some younger people came over to us and asked what its all about (these were early to mid 20's people) they were gob-smacked and handed over some coins for a few bits and peices. I know theres a quite a few who cant make it to Wellington so this is for them too.

GOONR
1st November 2009, 09:12
I will control the speed and chances are the overall speed wont be 90kph for any length of time, you will be fine.

Sweet! I'll defo be there, was at the gathering at the National Party Conference, couldn't make the one yesterday (long standing commitment) but will add my support again at this one!

If everyone stands up to be counted... oh wait, ACC / National can't count. :blink:

Mully
1st November 2009, 10:06
Teddy Bear run for Heart Children

This Protest Ride will now include 'Heart Children'
A Teddy Bear is required to hand over at the end of the ride.
The Media will love this.

There will be Protest Resources avaliable for purchase at the Domain - Fundraising to support the Protest.

Just in regard to this, as a warning, I suppose.

Heart Children are pretty sick (obviously). For this reason, Heart Children NZ can't accept "used" Teddy Bears to give out. Simply because a kid drooling on a Teddy Bear can cause it to harbour bacteria which can fuck these kids up (These aren't their words, I'm paraphasing here).

At least one senior person from Heart Children will be present for the hand-over of the bears. http://www.heartchildren.org.nz/

As Maha has said, the media will be alerted about this ride (probably by Heart Children as well). We also expect the Police to be aware of it (we aren't hiding it), so decorum is essential.

We're riding, as (voting) adults to indicate that we do not approve of the proposed levies. If you want to to wheelies or burnouts or race everyone, I kindly suggest you do not attend.

If anyone wants to donate a Teddy Bear, but can't attend the ride, please let us know and we will try to make arrangements to have your Bear pillion with someone else.

klingon
1st November 2009, 10:17
Ooh this is great! Dunno if I can make it but if not I will make sure my 'bear' gets a ride with someone.

Just thinking that through... should we make sure the bears are in some kind of protective cover if they are going to be carried (exposed) on bikes? As Mully said, these kids are already sick and we don't want them inhaling road grime and exhaust spooge when they cuddle their teddies.

By the way I don't have a bear to donate... are lambs acceptible? The lamb I would send has her own little hand-made dress and a pair of custom bike boots. Sometimes she wears a helmet and goggles and pretends she is a biker lamb. :D

Maha
1st November 2009, 10:21
All good points Mully thank you...
The Motorway Patrol will be notified on Monday and all steps will be taken to ensure that we do everthing without to much disruption.

Maha
1st November 2009, 10:23
Three Bikes plus myself to be at the front (making four) to controll the speed. (pm me if you can help)
Mully and Mom will at the rear....TEC's

Depending on the number of Bikes, when we leave the start point, we will stick to a speed limit of not more than 60kph untill all bikes are on the motorway. This proceedure will occure everytime a change in direction takes place. We need to keep together and not let cars jump in and screw things up.

Front Four
: Maha
: Kiwi Graham
: Miss.L
: Gremlin

GOONR
1st November 2009, 10:31
Teddy Bear run for Heart Children

This Protest Ride will now include 'Heart Children'
A Teddy Bear is required to hand over at the end of the ride.
The Media will love this.
Just in regard to this, as a warning, I suppose.

Heart Children are pretty sick (obviously). For this reason, Heart Children NZ can't accept "used" Teddy Bears to give out. Simply because a kid drooling on a Teddy Bear can cause it to harbour bacteria which can fuck these kids up (These aren't their words, I'm paraphasing here).

At least one senior person from Heart Children will be present for the hand-over of the bears. http://www.heartchildren.org.nz/

As Maha has said, the media will be alerted about this ride (probably by Heart Children as well). We also expect the Police to be aware of it (we aren't hiding it), so decorum is essential.

We're riding, as (voting) adults to indicate that we do not approve of the proposed levies. If you want to to wheelies or burnouts or race everyone, I kindly suggest you do not attend.

If anyone wants to donate a Teddy Bear, but can't attend the ride, please let us know and we will try to make arrangements to have your Bear pillion with someone else.

Now this idea I like alot!!!! I have a heart child, Midget GOONR had open heart surgery when she was 4 weeks old then again at six months old. Some of the children that we knew are sadly no longer with us. As Mully has said some of these children are very very ill so the gifts do need to be new.

Anyone on the shore who can't make the ride but want's to donate a Bear let me know, I can come and collect it from you if you want and make sure it gets a ride down on the day.

I can tell you that the children, parents and staff at the heart ward will really appreciate this. :yes:

Nice one people! :woohoo:

Kiwi Graham
1st November 2009, 10:36
Now this idea I like alot!!!! I have a heart child, Midget GOONR had open heart surgery when she was 4 weeks old then again at six months old. Some of the children that we knew are sadly no longer with us. As Mully has said some of these children are very very ill so the gifts do need to be new.

Anyone on the shore who can't make the ride but want's to donate a Bear let me know, I can come and collect it from you if you want and make sure it gets a ride down on the day.

I can tell you that the children, parents and staff at the heart ward will really appreciate this. :yes:

Nice one people! :woohoo:

I'll stick my full Hard Givi Touring Boxs on. There will be heaps of room for Teddys to come for a ride for those without a bike.

klingon
1st November 2009, 10:54
Can someone pick up my little lamb? (I will disguise her as a bear for the purposes of this ride.) I live in Avondale but I work in Glenfield on a Wednesday so could take her to work with me that day. Other days I work in New Lynn so she could be picked up from there.

Edit: just took a pic of my lamb. She is currently wearing a helmet and jacket borrowed from her friend the Westpac Bear, but she will change into her prettiest dress ready to go to her new home with a Heart Kid. :love:

The boots are her own (made to measure).

You can see from her expression that she is excited to go somewhere where a small child will love her!

GOONR
1st November 2009, 10:57
Can someone pick up my little lamb? (I will disguise her as a bear for the purposes of this ride.) I live in Avondale but I work in Glenfield on a Wednesday so could take her to work with me that day. Other days I work in New Lynn so she could be picked up from there.

I'm starting work late next Wednesday so can swing by Glenfield before I head in to town if that suites. PM me.

klingon
1st November 2009, 10:59
I'm starting work late next Wednesday so can swing by Glenfield before I head in to town if that suites. PM me.

Perfect. Will do.

Mully
2nd November 2009, 09:28
Morning all,

Heart Children are seriously on-board with this.

Couple of points:
Does anyone have an estimate of how long this will take, for the timing of the Domain bit?
Do we have a volunteer (not required to be a rider) to act as Point Duty at the Domain on the day. We will need a cell number for you so the Heart Children lady can get in touch upon arrival.
(This is up in the air, as I haven't offered yet) - Is anyone prepared to take a pillion representative of Heart Children on the entire ride? (I can and will, cos Miss Mully is getting her hair done, anyone else?)

Kiwi Graham
2nd November 2009, 09:30
Morning all,

Heart Children are seriously on-board with this.

Couple of points:
Does anyone have an estimate of how long this will take, for the timing of the Domain bit?
Do we have a volunteer (not required to be a rider) to act as Point Duty at the Domain on the day. We will need a cell number for you so the Heart Children lady can get in touch upon arrival.
(This is up in the air, as I haven't offered yet) - Is anyone prepared to take a pillion representative of Heart Children on the entire ride? (I can and will, cos Miss Mully is getting her hair done, anyone else?)

Happy to provide a pillion seat Mully.

Ixion
2nd November 2009, 09:37
Can the ride do a stop, regroup and set off again at X oclock from a couple of points along the way.

That way people who may not be able to make it to the start can join in along the way .

Crisis management
2nd November 2009, 09:38
Not sure if I can attend yet but...
just a suggestion, after both the turn around at Westgate (top of the north western) and the lights through botany / pakuranga your line will be strung out & the rear riders will be having to crank it up to catch up. Find a stop after these two points to regroup.
I suggest get off at Te atatu north & regroup (free turn onto the motorway?) and on Ti rakau drive (pakuranga) before getting onto the south eastern.

Good idea, hope there are lots of riders on the day.

Maha
2nd November 2009, 09:41
Morning all,

Heart Children are seriously on-board with this.

Couple of points:
Does anyone have an estimate of how long this will take, for the timing of the Domain bit?
Do we have a volunteer (not required to be a rider) to act as Point Duty at the Domain on the day. We will need a cell number for you so the Heart Children lady can get in touch upon arrival.
(This is up in the air, as I haven't offered yet) - Is anyone prepared to take a pillion representative of Heart Children on the entire ride? (I can and will, cos Miss Mully is getting her hair done, anyone else?)

Not sure on time Mully but the distance is about 120-130 Ks so im picking around midday at the Domain.
And I will to stop at the entrance to the domain as point.
But someone else wants to be point at the entrance thats cool, they will have to be close to the front of the ride as possible.

I will make sure that everyone is clear that, once they are in position on the motorway thats where they will stay, no overtaking.

Mully
2nd November 2009, 09:44
Can the ride do a stop, regroup and set off again at X oclock from a couple of points along the way.

That way people who may not be able to make it to the start can join in along the way .

I'm in favour of this - Maha, what are your thoughts?


Not sure if I can attend yet but...
just a suggestion, after both the turn around at Westgate (top of the north western) and the lights through botany / pakuranga your line will be strung out & the rear riders will be having to crank it up to catch up. Find a stop after these two points to regroup.

Good plan. We may be able to combine it with Ixion's...

There's a big carpark out the back of Westgate shopping centre that might work for that bit of the run....

Crisis management
2nd November 2009, 09:46
There's a big carpark out the back of Westgate shopping centre that might work for that bit of the run....

Hang on, the point is, you need a location that provides a traffic light free entry onto the next bit off the motorway so the group starts off in one bunch. Not westgate.

Maha
2nd November 2009, 09:50
Can the ride do a stop, regroup and set off again at X oclock from a couple of points along the way.

That way people who may not be able to make it to the start can join in along the way .

No regrouping Les, it is non-stop apart from the traffic lights.
I suggest any who cant make the start, find a good visual spot close to where we will be riding past and then join on.
Better still, make the start point cos we will have two TEC's and those joining on later will end up behind the two TEC's



Not sure if I can attend yet but...
just a suggestion, after both the turn around at Westgate (top of the north western) and the lights through botany / pakuranga your line will be strung out & the rear riders will be having to crank it up to catch up. Find a stop after these two points to regroup.
I suggest get off at Te atatu north & regroup (free turn onto the motorway?) and on Ti rakau drive (pakuranga) before getting onto the south eastern.

Good idea, hope there are lots of riders on the day.

It all depends on the amount of bikes and we will decide on the day about the Te Atatu off ramp regroup, but at this stage we wont be stopping.

The pace will be slowed at the Westgate turn around and also the onramp north after the South Eastern. If it happens to be a large amount of bikes we are more than likely to have a little help. Will know more about this later today.

Mully
2nd November 2009, 09:52
Hang on, the point is, you need a location that provides a traffic light free entry onto the next bit off the motorway so the group starts off in one bunch. Not westgate.

Ahh, I get you now. Traffic lights don't apply to bikes though??

Lots of motorway riding though. I'm not convinced that gaps couldn't be made up relatively easily.

Still, depends on the numbers that turn up I guess.

EDIT: Maha beat me to it.....

Mom
2nd November 2009, 15:48
Morning all,

Heart Children are seriously on-board with this.

Couple of points:
Does anyone have an estimate of how long this will take, for the timing of the Domain bit?
Do we have a volunteer (not required to be a rider) to act as Point Duty at the Domain on the day. We will need a cell number for you so the Heart Children lady can get in touch upon arrival.
(This is up in the air, as I haven't offered yet) - Is anyone prepared to take a pillion representative of Heart Children on the entire ride? (I can and will, cos Miss Mully is getting her hair done, anyone else?)


My intention is to peel off at some point and head to the domain and get set up for arriving bikes. Maha will do point at the Domain entrance. I am happy to make a time to meet with a Heart Children representative there, can offer up a seat on the blue lovely, but I have no spare gear. I will be talking to the museum people about our plans too :yes:

Maha is very aware of how a bunch of bikes can get strung out so will be controlling the lead riding speed at all times to make sure we stay in a group. The last thing we need is the riders at the back having to hare along to catchup with the rest of the group.

I am quietly working away in the background here to get something of worth happening when we get to the Domain.

SARGE
2nd November 2009, 16:26
Please bring your flags/banners/noise makers etc.


i ride my noisemaker... :rockon:

Maha
2nd November 2009, 17:27
i ride my noisemaker... :rockon:

You can ride up front with the big people if you turn up....:scooter:

T.I.E
2nd November 2009, 17:38
You can ride up front with the big people if you turn up....:scooter:

What you calling me fat??? WTF
Ahhh how you be sir?

Maha
2nd November 2009, 17:51
What you calling me fat??? WTF
Ahhh how you be sir?

Big as in adult sized not as in to much boil up....:wari:
Ya coming back for this event?.....:rolleyes:

Mully
2nd November 2009, 18:18
My intention is to peel off at some point and head to the domain and get set up for arriving bikes. Maha will do point at the Domain entrance. I am happy to make a time to meet with a Heart Children representative there, can offer up a seat on the blue lovely, but I have no spare gear. I will be talking to the museum people about our plans too :yes:

I am quietly working away in the background here to get something of worth happening when we get to the Domain.

Good Plan Mom

Miss Mully (MuzzyBee) is having a "Wedding Hair Trial" (Yawn!!) that day, so she wont be wearing a lid. I believe her intention is to meet at the Domain also, in our cage.

I have sent an e-mail round at work looking for excess bears to come on the ride.

Mom
2nd November 2009, 18:45
Good Plan Mom

Miss Mully (MuzzyBee) is having a "Wedding Hair Trial" (Yawn!!) that day, so she wont be wearing a lid. I believe her intention is to meet at the Domain also, in our cage.

I have sent an e-mail round at work looking for excess bears to come on the ride.

*YAWN* :spanking: some things are actually REALLY important you know :yes:


OK, so you me and you and a dog named BOO will liase further about plans at the end. Can you cope with TEC if I abandon you part way through is the question :D

paddy
2nd November 2009, 18:48
All good points Mully thank you...
The Motorway Patrol will be notified on Monday and all steps will be taken to ensure that we do everthing without to much disruption.

I'm glad to hear that you are talking with the MP. I suspect they might put some traffic control measures in around some of the major intersections which would be helpful - they may also want to renegotiate aspects of the route so that they can do the above and make it safer for all. The police are definitely not the enemy here.

Whoever is spokesman should make sure they have some carefully prepared and memorised "sound-bites" to regurgitate to the media at the appropriate times. Knowing how to pivot unrelated questions onto these sound bites would also be useful. Any long answers will be edited down and may well lose their meaning. By providing sound-bites you are making it easy for the editing room and YOU are controlling your message. It's also a REALLY good idea to make sure that the sound-bite stands alone, or re-state the question in your answer. That way the interviewer can be edited out as well - this leaves more time for you and your message.

All in all good work the pair of you (and anyone else responsible). I shall try and make it.

GSXR Trace
2nd November 2009, 19:37
what time are you anticipating getting to the museum? and what time leaving there?

allycatz
2nd November 2009, 19:42
Can I send up a bear for someone to take along please!!!

Mully
2nd November 2009, 19:44
what time are you anticipating getting to the museum? and what time leaving there?

At this stage, midday for the convoy.

Mom, can you answer the second question please (given your behind the scenes moving and shaking)


Can I send up a bear for someone to take along please!!!

Yes you may.

Our local couriers are useless - does anyone have an address we can use for out of town bears?

Little Miss Trouble
2nd November 2009, 19:52
Big as in adult sized not as in to much boil up....:wari:
Ya coming back for this event?.....:rolleyes:

Wait? I have to be an adult? No one told me that!

Mully
2nd November 2009, 19:55
Wait? I have to be an adult? No one told me that!

Growing older is compulsory
Growing up is optional.

:devil2:

Maha
2nd November 2009, 19:55
Can I send up a bear for someone to take along please!!!

We will be in Wellington this weekend, will that help ??

Wait? I have to be an adult? No one told me that!

You'll have a helmet on, no body will notice....:sweatdrop

allycatz
2nd November 2009, 20:04
We will be in Wellington this weekend, will that help ??


Yep that could work though im working sat and sun afternoons and mite be hard to catch up,

Little Miss Trouble
2nd November 2009, 20:14
I can take courier delivery of bears at work, PM me for the address if you want to send them

GSXR Trace
2nd November 2009, 22:51
At this stage, midday for the convoy.

sweet sounds good. will see if i can get a few bikes along for this one

SARGE
2nd November 2009, 23:06
You can ride up front with the big people if you turn up....:scooter:

good possibility mr Maha .. i'll be the one holding the flaming torch and pitchfork..

Gremlin
2nd November 2009, 23:51
I can't make the Wellington ride, so I'm definitely in for this.

You have a pm Maha :yes:

Gremlin
3rd November 2009, 00:05
• Turn left onto Pakuranga Highway. At the next set of lights turn left onto the South Eastern Highway using the right hand lane which will take us back onto the Southern Motorway heading into the City.
Not quite following this to be honest, as I'm a local.

The Pakuranga Highway is usually referring to Pakuranga Rd, which, from my understanding of your route, is not being used. The Pakuranga Motorway, while strictly not always used, is the bigger of the two bridges, and part of the South Eastern Highway.

Turning left from Te Irirangi Drive into Ti Rakau Drive, you would continue straight (through a fair few lights) and turn left onto the South Eastern Highway (not using a right hand lane, the left lane feeds onto the SE highway). Then, you use the right hand lane to feed onto the motorway past Carbine Rd. Wouldn't want people turning right just after the bridge either (ie, before Carbine Rd), as that would take you into Mt Wellington.

Also check with the cops, they generally prefer in these situations to use the fast lane only (when I led the cheesecutter ride, the Sargeant went first, at 80kph ish, and the whole formation stayed in the right hand lane as much as poss - except for the damn nose to tail just before Ellerslie). The reason for this is there is less danger, with general traffic trying to use the on and off ramps.

Don't know your current dialogue with the cops, but initially, they wouldn't have any dealings around the original cheesecutter ride, as they didn't want to appear to support the event. In the end, with the large numbers as we approached the event, I was contacted a couple of days out, as they had to attend on safety grounds (which was much appreciated).

Maha
3rd November 2009, 06:50
Not quite following this to be honest, as I'm a local.

The Pakuranga Highway is usually referring to Pakuranga Rd, which, from my understanding of your route, is not being used. The Pakuranga Motorway, while strictly not always used, is the bigger of the two bridges, and part of the South Eastern Highway.

Turning left from Te Irirangi Drive into Ti Rakau Drive, you would continue straight (through a fair few lights) and turn left onto the South Eastern Highway (not using a right hand lane, the left lane feeds onto the SE highway). Then, you use the right hand lane to feed onto the motorway past Carbine Rd. Wouldn't want people turning right just after the bridge either (ie, before Carbine Rd), as that would take you into Mt Wellington.

Also check with the cops, they generally prefer in these situations to use the fast lane only (when I led the cheesecutter ride, the Sargeant went first, at 80kph ish, and the whole formation stayed in the right hand lane as much as poss - except for the damn nose to tail just before Ellerslie). The reason for this is there is less danger, with general traffic trying to use the on and off ramps.

Don't know your current dialogue with the cops, but initially, they wouldn't have any dealings around the original cheesecutter ride, as they didn't want to appear to support the event. In the end, with the large numbers as we approached the event, I was contacted a couple of days out, as they had to attend on safety grounds (which was much appreciated).

Yes Gremlin, we intend to be using the (fast lane) because of the reason you mentioned. Through the Te Rakau area, you can have control. I was trying to get back onto the Southern (heading north) via the Mt Wellington on ramp?
But since you know the area you can get us through there. I have added you to the front four.
And thank you for your support and help.

Mom
3rd November 2009, 07:30
The Motorway Police have been made aware of this event and are happy for us to do what we are planning. They will heads up Highway Patrol too so all our bases are covered. There is no intention to deliberately set out to slow traffic or cause mayhem on this ride, with the lead riders setting the pace we really should not get in anyones way. I will be keeping in contact with the Police as the ride day draws closer and keep them appraised of how big we are looking at getting.

Now, lets just hope for a lovely :sunny: day!

Donor
3rd November 2009, 07:41
Hmmm... best I talk to my favourite asian rider, and see about stretching the legs of one of his gaggle of bikes...

Hell, I'll cage it as a support/logistics vehicle if I have to!

Mully
3rd November 2009, 11:19
Hi All,

Heart Children have decided that they do not want to have pillions aboard bikes for the ride. So it looks like we may have a couple of pillion seats available for people who want to come along but don't want to/can't ride their own bikes.

Cheers,
Mully

Gremlin
3rd November 2009, 13:08
Yes Gremlin, we intend to be using the (fast lane) because of the reason you mentioned. Through the Te Rakau area, you can have control. I was trying to get back onto the Southern (heading north) via the Mt Wellington on ramp?
But since you know the area you can get us through there. I have added you to the front four.
Ok, if you want to get onto the Motorway at Mt Wellington, you have a couple of options. Using the South Eastern Highway, you can't turn onto Mt Wellington Highway (SE Hwy is elevated). You can go down SE Hwy and turn left onto Carbine Rd, right onto Clemow Dr, right at the roundabout and then left onto motorway onramps. Not ideal, bit of a rat run, but could be done. Right turns and roundabouts will naturally split the group a bit.

Otherwise, also using the SE Hwy, you can turn right just after the bridge onto Waipuna Rd, left onto Mt Wellington Hwy and then right onto the motorway onramps. This is a more main route, you would have the traffic of Sylvia Park tho (not more so than Botany Town Centre I guess), and you'd be split turning right at onto the onramp (and onto Waipuna) because of the traffic lights.

Would probably suggest riding it next weekend to be sure of the route, so the police know exactly as well?

Maha
3rd November 2009, 13:39
Otherwise, also using the SE Hwy, you can turn right just after the bridge onto Waipuna Rd, left onto Mt Wellington Hwy and then right onto the motorway onramps. This is a more main route, you would have the traffic of Sylvia Park tho (not more so than Botany Town Centre I guess), and you'd be split turning right at onto the onramp (and onto Waipuna) because of the traffic lights.

Would probably suggest riding it next weekend to be sure of the route, so the police know exactly as well?


This seems the easier option and was what I had in mind from the start (may have got a road or two wrong but hey, im known for that:Oops:)

So Waipuna is basically the onramp yes? we could slow it down at this point until we are all back as a group. You/Me/Graham and Lisa will talk it over on the morning so that we are all on the same track. Im off to Wellington this weekend so cant do a rekky.

Maha
3rd November 2009, 15:35
All sounds good.

Maybe if you put a poll (Are you comming: Yes/No) on this thread it will give a rough indicator on how many are going to show up?

Hahaaaaaaa how little you know me.....
Refer to post one and you will see the registration link.....:yes:

But that just gives us an idea of who is coming, off here.
Not everyone will register and then there are those that say and do nothing, they just turn up anyway.

Mom
3rd November 2009, 15:47
Ok, if you want to get onto the Motorway at Mt Wellington, you have a couple of options. Using the South Eastern Highway, you can't turn onto Mt Wellington Highway (SE Hwy is elevated). You can go down SE Hwy and turn left onto Carbine Rd, right onto Clemow Dr, right at the roundabout and then left onto motorway onramps. Not ideal, bit of a rat run, but could be done. Right turns and roundabouts will naturally split the group a bit.

Otherwise, also using the SE Hwy, you can turn right just after the bridge onto Waipuna Rd, left onto Mt Wellington Hwy and then right onto the motorway onramps. This is a more main route, you would have the traffic of Sylvia Park tho (not more so than Botany Town Centre I guess), and you'd be split turning right at onto the onramp (and onto Waipuna) because of the traffic lights.

Would probably suggest riding it next weekend to be sure of the route, so the police know exactly as well?


This seems the easier option and was what I had in mind from the start (may have got a road or two wrong but hey, im known for that:Oops:)

So Waipuna is basically the onramp yes? we could slow it down at this point until we are all back as a group. You/Me/Graham and Lisa will talk it over on the morning so that we are all on the same track. Im off to Wellington this weekend so cant do a rekky.

Tiny bit of confusion here. This is what was planned. From Ti Rakau Drive turn left onto the Pakuranga Highway. Go over the bridge and veer left onto the South Eastern Highway. Go under the motorway and turn right at the Mt Wellington On ramp back onto the Motorway heading North to the city.

Gremlin
3rd November 2009, 17:26
This seems the easier option and was what I had in mind from the start (may have got a road or two wrong but hey, im known for that:Oops:)

So Waipuna is basically the onramp yes? we could slow it down at this point until we are all back as a group.
Waipuna Rd is a 50kph area, complete with a stationary speed camera. Only danger here is that if the ride is large-ish, we'll be queuing in the fast lane over the bridge, for turning right onto Waipuna Rd (controlled by traffic lights)

From Ti Rakau Drive turn left onto the Pakuranga Highway. Go over the bridge and veer left onto the South Eastern Highway. Go under the motorway and turn right at the Mt Wellington On ramp back onto the Motorway heading North to the city.
Except that doesn't make sense... The Pakuranga Highway doesn't connect to the South Eastern Highway, so you can either turn left onto SE Highway (also called Pakuranga Motorway), or you can turn left further on, at the T intersection, onto the Pakuranga Highway (also called Pakuranga Rd).

Its possible you don't know the SE highway goes over Mt Wellington Highway, so those roads don't intersect?

I can get some google streetview handy?

Ixion
3rd November 2009, 17:30
If you enter the Southern at Mt W from Waipuna rd you have to go past Sylvia Park , which is about 5 traffic lights and really messed up loony traffic as all the cages dart around trying to get into Sylvia park.

Why Mt W in particular?

Could go along Ellerslie-Panmure Highway to the Ellerslie on ramp. Or just stay on the SW Arterial till it intersects the Southern (not much visibility, admittedly)

If you really wanted exposure you could go in the back entrance to Sylvia Park and come out the front entrance just before the motorway onramp.

Gremlin
3rd November 2009, 17:36
Could go along Ellerslie-Panmure Highway to the Ellerslie on ramp. Or just stay on the SW Arterial till it intersects the Southern (not much visibility, admittedly)
going all the way to ellerslie would probably be worse, as its more lights

Some streetview links:
Entrance to Waipuna Rd: http://maps.google.co.nz/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.91099,174.854364&spn=0,359.961419&z=15&layer=c&cbll=-36.911035,174.854138&panoid=j7WolacntjtVcjuxZLPDyw&cbp=12,264.55,,0,16.91

The run down Mt Wellington Hwy to Onramp (note, you go under the SE Highway): http://maps.google.co.nz/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.912671,174.838271&spn=0,359.961419&z=15&layer=c&cbll=-36.912923,174.838361&panoid=sgL-6oEDxP-22C65Pt489g&cbp=12,155.34,,0,-1.91

Ixion
3rd November 2009, 17:40
Only two sets of lights between Wiapuna Rd/Mt W Hwy junction and Ellerslie on ramp . One at Lunn Ave, one at Roberts rd (Mt W hwy/Ellerslie Hwy is a free turn.)

Other way is about 4 outside Sylvia Park and one at the Motorway entrance.

Maha
3rd November 2009, 17:49
Or just stay on the SW Arterial till it intersects the Southern (not much visibility, admittedly)


Thats how I see it.

Sharry
3rd November 2009, 19:30
* Can you cope with TEC if I abandon you part way through is the question :D

I will be there Anne and can be a rear TEC also.

I will also have my 35 Ltr top box so can pick up the odd bear if need be and transport.

Maha
3rd November 2009, 19:56
I will be there Anne and can be a rear TEC also.

I will also have my 35 Ltr top box so can pick up the odd bear if need be and transport.

The Auckland Chapter of BRU's should be there in force.....:rockon:

Mully
3rd November 2009, 20:00
My brother-in-law is keen to do this ride (if he's not on call), but he doesn't have a bike.

If anyone has a bike he can use (full licence, over 25 and so on and so forth), can you please PM me.

Mully
3rd November 2009, 20:03
I will also have my 35 Ltr top box so can pick up the odd bear if need be and transport.

What about normal bears?? Or just odd ones?

Kiwi Graham
3rd November 2009, 20:06
I will also have my 35 Ltr top box so can pick up the odd bear if need be and transport.


What about normal bears?? Or just odd ones?

I'll have my top box and paniers on so can take the even bears

MadDuck
3rd November 2009, 20:33
The Auckland Chapter of BRU's should be there in force.....

...be afraid. Be very very afraid. :sweatdrop

Maha
3rd November 2009, 20:40
...be afraid. Be very very afraid. :sweatdrop

I would never cross swords with that lot.....:no:

Clean_up
3rd November 2009, 21:54
Im in for sure :) see you all up at the BP/Autobahn on the 14th :)

PhantasmNZ
3rd November 2009, 23:33
I'll be there... happy to help out in any way I can (TEC etc) - I'm also helping out Klingon and the "Scary Bikers Sewing Circle" with their efforts - so should be able to help anyone out who wants to buy a printed up flouro vest, flag, armband etc :)

Mom
4th November 2009, 07:41
I have had this response from the Police.


Thank you for your comprehensive report regarding your club's upcoming ride so we have a 'heads up' on what is happening. As discussed, your information has been forwarded to the Senior Sergeant of Motorways so on the day our staff who are working, and communication centre, can be informed of what is going on. Handy to know about the ride as we may receive calls from the public. As you are aware, It is a safety issue that the motorway system flows well and we are pleased that you are mindful of that.

Mom
4th November 2009, 07:43
Are right on board with us too. :sunny: We will meet some representatives at the Domain to receive our teddy bears, and have an a few photos taken of kids on bikes etc. They are delighted to have us supporting them, good publicity for them :D

klingon
4th November 2009, 10:34
Looks like I may be at the beginning of the ride, then race off and do some stuff, then meet you all in the Domain at the end.

What part of the Domain are you planning to be in?

Maha
4th November 2009, 10:36
Looks like I may be at the beginning of the ride, then race off and do some stuff, then meet you all in the Domain at the end.

What part of the Domain are you planning to be in?

The Museum, its the Big Building on the Hill.....:confused:

klingon
4th November 2009, 10:39
The Museum, its the Big Building on the Hill.....:confused:

Hmmm... I had never noticed that there before... it must be new! :o

Mully
4th November 2009, 10:47
Hmmm... I had never noticed that there before... it must be new! :o

Nah, it's not new.

It's easy enough to miss though. Sort of blends in.

gtr boy
4th November 2009, 15:45
I will be there Anne and can be a rear TEC also.

I will also have my 35 Ltr top box so can pick up the odd bear if need be and transport.

mmmm heinekin

Mom
4th November 2009, 15:59
mmmm heinekin

Try BEARS! :spanking:

mnkyboy
4th November 2009, 16:16
mmmm heinekin

Need a slap for even mentioning that pig swill.:Pokey:

I'll be there. I might even attach my noisey clutch (Oh wait....already have)

Maha
5th November 2009, 06:22
I have changed to route cutting out the Te Irirangi Dr/Te Rakau Rds.
Went and had a look at that area last night and with about 15-16 sets of lights get through I can see it being a bit of a mess.
So post #2 has the changes, we are now going to down to the Papakura off-ramp, over the Motorway and back into the city.

Mark

Pixie
5th November 2009, 06:44
Is the 10:00 am departure a definite,not to be changed time?
I ask because I will join the ride at Silverdale on ramp.This will save me riding south then north to get to the BP.

Mom
5th November 2009, 06:47
Is the 10:00 am departure a definite,not to be changed time?
I ask because I will join the ride at Silverdale on ramp.This will save me riding south then north to get to the BP.

Yes it is definate. You think you have problems, we have to ride from Warkworth to Albany back up to Dairy Flat to get to the start point :sunny:

Mully
5th November 2009, 08:00
Yes it is definate. You think you have problems, we have to ride from Warkworth to Albany back up to Dairy Flat to get to the start point :sunny:

Bloody Looxury.

I have to ride from Henderson Valley, probably the back way through some horrible curvy roads, to get there.

Why won't somebody think of the Mullys??!!

gtr boy
5th November 2009, 08:31
if any one wants to meet up at the westgate gassie from out west,say about 9:00
im just down the road so will call in anyway
then go riverhead /down hill to albany then up the kyber,er motorway to the b/p autobarn bout 9:15

Pixie
5th November 2009, 11:12
Yes it is definate. You think you have problems, we have to ride from Warkworth to Albany back up to Dairy Flat to get to the start point :sunny:

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You're doing great work :sunny:

Sharry
5th November 2009, 12:06
if any one wants to meet up at the westgate gassie from out west,say about 9:00
im just down the road so will call in anyway
then go riverhead /down hill to albany then up the kyber,er motorway to the b/p autobarn bout 9:15

If I can get to Westgate before 9.15 I will join you.

Clean_up
5th November 2009, 17:14
Shore people wanna meet up at the carpark next to the po on northcote road at say 9am and leave there at 9:15 to head up to the autobahn for 9:30?

Maha
5th November 2009, 17:18
if any one wants to meet up at the westgate gassie from out west,say about 9:00
im just down the road so will call in anyway
then go riverhead /down hill to albany then up the kyber,er motorway to the b/p autobarn bout 9:15


Shore people wanna meet up at the carpark next to the po on northcote road at say 9am and leave there at 9:15 to head up to the autobahn for 9:30?

Good call, will probably want everyone geared up and ready by 9.55am plus I will run over a few points (ride brief if you like) around 9.40am

gwigs
5th November 2009, 18:07
I will be coming....a warm up for the Welly trip...
:niceone:

Cr1MiNaL
5th November 2009, 21:46
Q1. where da fuck do I find a bear from?

Q2. When does the Wellington protest ride ride up at what time and what date pls? Need to book leave tomorrow. Please quote this post! Ta

firefighter
5th November 2009, 21:47
Q1. where da fuck do I find a bear from?

Go to da zoo bro.

MadDuck
5th November 2009, 21:54
Q1. where da fuck do I find a bear from?



Theres this really big kick arse "red" building some refer to as the Wharehouse. You might try there. :confused:

Clean_up
6th November 2009, 00:40
Q1. where da fuck do I find a bear from?

Q2. When does the Wellington protest ride ride up at what time and what date pls? Need to book leave tomorrow. Please quote this post! Ta
Q1: As said, try te ware whare (the warehouse)
Q2: Check BRONZ.org.nz click on the acc link, there is a copy of the flyer they have done detailing where and when on the 16th the protest ride from auckland leaves.

Mully
6th November 2009, 07:34
Q1. where da fuck do I find a bear from?


Bears R Us
Bears for less
Waitamata Back care Bears
Bear-a-rama
Bear Hoki
The Bearhouse (where everyone get a beargan)
Teddy Bears Picnic (today's the day)
Bearway to heaven

Just go to the Bear District, Downtown. You can't move for Bears.

KwakaZM
6th November 2009, 10:00
Let me know if I can be of any help other than showing up with a bear.

Maha
6th November 2009, 10:46
Bears R Us
Bears for less
Waitamata Back care Bears
Bear-a-rama
Bear Hoki
The Bearhouse (where everyone get a beargan)
Teddy Bears Picnic (today's the day)
Bearway to heaven

Just go to the Bear District, Downtown. You can't move for Bears.

:laugh::killingme It was well worth logging on just to read that.....


Let me know if I can be of any help other than showing up with a bear.

Come over and say gidday on the morning, I may or may not have something for you to do, its always cool when people stick thier hand up make an offer like that.

KwakaZM
6th November 2009, 14:48
:laugh::killingme It was well worth logging on just to read that.....



Come over and say gidday on the morning, I may or may not have something for you to do, its always cool when people stick thier hand up make an offer like that.

Always happy to do my little bit.

gunnyrob
6th November 2009, 21:11
Q1. where da fuck do I find a bear from?

Q2. When does the Wellington protest ride ride up at what time and what date pls? Need to book leave tomorrow. Please quote this post! Ta

Main protest ride leaves Papakura Autobahn 0900 Mon 16 Nov

Check out www.bronz.org.nz

chasio
7th November 2009, 06:57
Shore people wanna meet up at the carpark next to the po on northcote road at say 9am and leave there at 9:15 to head up to the autobahn for 9:30?

Sounds good to me, but not sure exactly where you mean... if po = post office I expect I'll find it :)

I've got my kit from the Scary Bikers Sewing Circle so I should be easily seen!

Maha
7th November 2009, 07:23
Sounds good to me, but not sure exactly where you mean... if po = post office I expect I'll find it :)

I've got my kit from the Scary Bikers Sewing Circle so I should be easily seen!

He may mean the Ponamu (sp) Pub?
Also known as the 'PO'.

Mully
7th November 2009, 09:31
He may mean the Ponamu (sp) Pub?
Also known as the 'PO'.

Oh. I thought he meant the Telly Tubby.......

Clean_up
7th November 2009, 19:11
heh yeah, there is a big telly tubby on northcote road :P its called the ponamu pub :P there is a carpark next to it, the one for the takapuna golf course, lots of room there to meet before heading north :)

chasio
8th November 2009, 05:22
heh yeah, there is a big telly tubby on northcote road :P its called the ponamu pub :P there is a carpark next to it, the one for the takapuna golf course, lots of room there to meet before heading north :)

Gotya, thanks :) I'm obviously far too innocent to notice such establishments :innocent:

The telly tubby would have been better though, eh?

klingon
8th November 2009, 08:34
Gotya, thanks :) I'm obviously far too innocent to notice such establishments :innocent:

The telly tubby would have been better though, eh?

:2thumbsup


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to chasio again.

:Oops:

Squiggles
8th November 2009, 14:07
I'll be there

Cr1MiNaL
8th November 2009, 14:52
ill be there too teddy in mouth.

chasio
8th November 2009, 15:11
OK, been to The Bearhouse and got a Teddyphant. It's like a Teddy Bear, only more elephantish. My cuddly toy consultant told me it was the cuddliest one there, so I hope it passes muster!

I've got a 45 litre top-box that will take a few cuddlies. Planning to go from The Poenamo if anyone's interested in making use of the space...

I don't think I'll fit the two 35 litre side cases though, as I have plans to decorate the mountings :)

Cheers - Chasio

Mully
8th November 2009, 16:12
C'mon Auckland (and surrounding areas) riders.

Apparently, Tauranga managed to get 1100 bikes to their one!!


What a turn-out!
Over 1100 bikes. Probably well over, as I was far from being the only late arrival.

And Simon Bridges was there, and seemed to be receptive (although he was likely looking at ~1500 votes...) He did make a very good point though - PUT IN A SUBMISSION.

Thanks to Max, Adelle and others for putting it together. I'd say that the voice of Tauranga riders has been heard.

Tauranga can't beat us, can they?

If you can't make the entire ride, consider making just the assembly at the Domain

Kiwi Graham
8th November 2009, 17:00
+1 Mully.

This is Aucklands opportunity to show Auckland just how we feel.
The media are aware of this, if its a big enough spectical it will make the evening news. Get you mug and your pride and joy on the TV and at the same time be part of the this protest to unjustified levy's.
Even some teddys are going to get a ride.
Submissions are vital, If you havent done one do it now, it takes just a couple of minutes.

P.S. If you want to be part of it but dont have a bike or know someone who wants to come along there are plenty of people willing to pillion you.

Mully
8th November 2009, 17:06
Submissions are vital, If you havent done one do it now, it takes just a couple of minutes.

P.S. If you want to be part of it but dont have a bike or know someone who wants to come along there are plenty of people willing to pillion you.

Cheers Graham,

Can you imagine the public support if we get 1100+ teddy bears to donate to Heart Children??

Submissions are vital - to ACC, and also your local MP (particularly if you are in a marginal seat). The more noise that is made, the better.

FWIW, my questions to John Banks and Len Brown (potential mayors of the Auckland "Supercity") seeking their postions haven't been answered - make of that what you will when the elections roll around.

Chisanga
8th November 2009, 17:23
I should be able to come.... i'll visit the red shed sometime this week :)

chasio
8th November 2009, 19:08
Maybe the idea of buying a Teddy is putting people off? Lord knows why it should because the bears are for Heart Children. I have done fundraising for them in the past and theirs is a very worthy cause, folks.

Or maybe it's something else...?

Mully
8th November 2009, 19:15
Maybe the idea of buying a Teddy is putting people off?

If that's the case, that's pretty sad really.

Ixion
8th November 2009, 19:17
Tis an early start from them as lives in the Souf, and has to ride all the way norf, then back souf, then back norf, then back souf again.

Maybe a ride leaving the Souf and crossing with the one from the norf?

And it doesn't stop anywhere. No aggro.

Unless the bikes have pretty big signs how will Jow Q. know what it's about?

klingon
8th November 2009, 19:31
I have donated two teddies (well, a teddy and a lamb) but I can't go on the ride, so someone can come along without bringing a cuddly toy if they like.

PhantasmNZ
8th November 2009, 19:53
Unless the bikes have pretty big signs how will Jow Q. know what it's about?

That's a good point - I think we need to make sure we can have some reasonable size signs - particularly at the TEC end. One thought - is there anyone who could drive a cage (or better a light truck or something) with banners etc @ the rear.


Another point - do we have an 'official' flyer for this event - I'd be happy to print some off and distribute them around a few of the bike parking areas around the CBD. (I guess we need to all finally agree route etc first) - also an oppprtunity to get on board more bikers/scooterers who may have missed the war cry so far...

GOONR
8th November 2009, 19:55
I have donated two teddies (well, a teddy and a lamb) but I can't go on the ride, so someone can come along without bringing a cuddly toy if they like.

I will pass them on so they get a ride with someone who doesn't already have a companion.

Chrislost
8th November 2009, 20:00
Mully, and my good self, have been nutting out an Auckland ACC Protest ride.


HERE IT IS.

When: Saturday 14th November (reserve day is the following Saturday in case of rain)

Where: Starting, Dairy Flat Autobahn (point A) ending Auckland Domain (point B).

Time: Assemble in the car park of the BP/Burger King/Autobahn from 9am onwards. Please make sure you are fully gassed up, fed, watered and relieved before 10am! All facilities are onsite for your convenience.

Depart: 10am


This is a rolling protest ride covering the wider Auckland area, point A to point B, non stop.


Please bring your flags/banners/noise makers etc. At all times this ride will be orderly and law abiding. We are NOT deliberately setting out to inconvenience the motoring public of Auckland. This is about making our presence felt and a chance to express our angst about this psycho levy proposal.

We will be using the standard rules around riding in a group, staggered formation please.

The speed out of the Autobahn car park will be slow until all bikes are on the motorway and grouped together, then a maximum speed of 90 kph will be adhered to on the motorway system at all times.

Please register your attendance here

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2233&day=2009-11-14


Teddy Bear run for Heart Children

'Please ensure that teddy bears are brand new then put in a plastic bag'

This Protest Ride will now include 'Heart Children'
A Teddy Bear is required to hand over at the end of the ride.
The Media will love this.

There will be Protest Resources avaliable for purchase at the Domain - Fundraising to support the Protest (War Chest)
Read all about in here..
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=111452

FUUUUCKKKINGGGG GRRRREEEEAAAATTTT!!!
theres 2 trackdays that weekend.
you muppets keep putting the protest rides on days that I (and a hundred or so other) motorcyclists are not even in auckland.

PhantasmNZ
8th November 2009, 20:08
Maybe the idea of buying a Teddy is putting people off?

Not sure that we can (or would want to) discourage people from taking part just because they can't/won't buy a teddy. Maybe we should let people make a (folding) cash donation instead if they can't bring a bear

Maha
8th November 2009, 20:55
Tis an early start from them as lives in the Souf, and has to ride all the way norf, then back souf, then back norf, then back souf again.

Maybe a ride leaving the Souf and crossing with the one from the norf?

And it doesn't stop anywhere. No aggro.

Unless the bikes have pretty big signs how will Jow Q. know what it's about?

Didnt think it making the starting point was that hard, on the 17th, those from Northland are leaving real early to make the start, thats commitment. Last weekend, hundreds (possibly) rode a fair distance to get to Manakau, thats commitment. The ride details stand and if those that cant make the start for whatever reason can join on at any point.

On the signs thing?...
This is in the first post...Please bring your flags/banners/noise makers etc

Maha
8th November 2009, 21:22
Not sure that we can (or would want to) discourage people from taking part just because they can't/won't buy a teddy. Maybe we should let people make a (folding) cash donation instead if they can't bring a bear

Exactly right.
Just turning up and supporting the ride on the day is payment enough.
Its a visual ride as much as anything, lets get out there and be seen, be noticed, banner ya bikes up 'Lets Protest'!

SARGE
8th November 2009, 21:28
all i know is that 99% of the PoPo's in Dorkland will be monitoring the protest ride .. im gonna go find a nice quiet cop free mountain road and do my protest at 240 :woohoo::rockon:

PhantasmNZ
8th November 2009, 21:31
Exactly right.
Just turning up and supporting the ride on the day is payment enough.
Its a visual ride as much as anything, lets get out there and be seen, be noticed, banner ya bikes up 'Lets Protest'!

Maha - what about the flyer idea?

anyone else know any good places to distribute them - of course we need bikers other than KBers to spread the word...

I'm happy to print a couple-a-hundred or so so long as the big old laser printer in the garage fires up. What do we need on the flyer? I guess we need some ACC guff, Maha's info from post #1, some info about the charity component and maybe a map?

PhantasmNZ
8th November 2009, 21:35
Morning all,

Heart Children are seriously on-board with this.
)

Any chance they could publicise the "bear run" on their website?

PhantasmNZ
8th November 2009, 21:41
and I'm assuming we're already following their guielines http://www.heartchildren.org.nz/downloads/Guidelines%20for%20fundraising%20events%20and%20ac tivities.pdf

NONONO
9th November 2009, 06:53
FUUUUCKKKINGGGG GRRRREEEEAAAATTTT!!!
theres 2 trackdays that weekend.
you muppets keep putting the protest rides on days that I (and a hundred or so other) motorcyclists are not even in auckland.

Can you let us know when you are in Auckland, and we will schedule all protests to your availability.......

Mully
9th November 2009, 07:45
FUUUUCKKKINGGGG GRRRREEEEAAAATTTT!!!
theres 2 trackdays that weekend.
you muppets keep putting the protest rides on days that I (and a hundred or so other) motorcyclists are not even in auckland.

Sorry - it's a bit hard to schedule things to suit everyone.

Feel free to buy a bear and let someone else take it on the ride for you, though.


and I'm assuming we're already following their guielines

We're not fundraising - we're bearraising. :yes:

Maha
9th November 2009, 09:18
Maha - what about the flyer idea?

anyone else know any good places to distribute them - of course we need bikers other than KBers to spread the word...

I'm happy to print a couple-a-hundred or so so long as the big old laser printer in the garage fires up. What do we need on the flyer? I guess we need some ACC guff, Maha's info from post #1, some info about the charity component and maybe a map?


Flyers are a great idea, to much 'guff' on flyers and it gets a bit crowded and not everything is taken in (much like Post #1 of this thread, some tend to slim read) so with that in mind, the bold part of your post would be suffice and I thank you for your ongoing support around the whole ACC thing.

Maha
9th November 2009, 10:02
all i know is that 99% of the PoPo's in Dorkland will be monitoring the protest ride .. im gonna go find a nice quiet cop free mountain road and do my protest at 240 :woohoo::rockon:

Monitoring?....we are keeping them up to speed with whats going on, by phone and by email. We have already changed the route once, and thats another reason why the ride wont morf into anything else. Any crossover Protest ride from where ever, wont have anything to do with this Protest Ride. Any help from the Police will be done from this end.....:rockon:

Mom will slip off the end of the ride at the City after the north western leg and go to the Domain.

Maha
9th November 2009, 10:08
The only thing that may change is the speed (lower if anything) depending on the size, keeping the ride together is achieviable if the speed is controlled. Rather than get onto the motorway and hit 100-110 asap (which means those at the back then have to do 130-140 to catch up) the speed will be increased slowly.

chasio
9th November 2009, 10:15
I've got a couple of non KB workmates interested, but one would not be able to make the start.

Is there a procedure for riders wanting to join the ride while it is rolling? I'm thinking of an approach that the TEC's would control somehow...

I'm also personally reading this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1129503679#post1129503679) about riding in a large close bunch with interest, although the scale will be different...

And I have a 200cc Vespa I may be willing to loan to someone in desperate need of a ride. PM me if interested.

Cheers - Chasio

Maha
9th November 2009, 10:24
I've got a couple of non KB workmates interested, but one would not be able to make the start.

Is there a procedure for riders wanting to join the ride while it is rolling? I'm thinking of an approach that the TEC's would control somehow...

I'm also personally reading this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1129503679#post1129503679) about riding in a large close bunch with interest, although the scale will be different...

And I have a 200cc Vespa I may be willing to loan to someone in desperate need of a ride. PM me if interested.

Cheers - Chasio

That thread has some real valid points for those that have never been riding with a large number.

There will be 2-3 TECs and they will be awear of bikes joining in, they can drop back and make room for those bikes to slot in ahead of them.

Swoop
9th November 2009, 10:42
Three Bikes plus myself to be at the front (making four) to controll the speed. (pm me if you can help)
Mully and Mom will at the rear....TEC's

Depending on the number of Bikes, when we leave the start point, we will stick to a speed limit of not more than 60kph untill all bikes are on the motorway. This proceedure will occure everytime a change in direction takes place. We need to keep together and not let cars jump in and screw things up.

Front Four
: Maha
: Kiwi Graham
: Miss.L
: Gremlin

At interchanges, will these four be stopping and able to keep cars out of the way, when the group has to do pass around to retrace direction (Silverdale overpass, etc)? Or will there be a need for some "expendibles" who will halt traffic and join back in at the tail?

Maha
9th November 2009, 11:16
Westgate and Wellesly off-ramp are probably the only two areas we could do with assistance. The HP has a link to this thread and they also have an email spelling out the exact route. I imagine they will turn up on the morning to get an idea of the size of the group. There is no way of knowing (until Saturday morning) how many bikes there will be. The registration link is only an indicator at best of how many KBers will be there.
But to answer your question Swoop, we are going to (at this stage) just have to get around as best we can. The front four will slow the pace when re-entering the Motorway (which will be three times) until all bikes are back in line. If there happens to be a huge number of bikes, then its possible that we will have assistance.

Swoop
9th November 2009, 11:44
Cool. Wondered if the HP guys would be tasked to do the interchanges, as that will be a few minutes of roadblock required.
They did a superb job at the TelstraClear gathering!

If we are going to "get around as best we can", then perhaps a few sacrificial lambs may like to take this task on? (Stop traffic, rejoin at the rear)

klingon
9th November 2009, 12:37
1) We will have merchandise for sale at the beginning of the ride - so bring some cash! Arm bands $2; pre-printed vests $25; flags $3 - $5 (size and logo dependent). We may also have other stuff for sale depending on how productive this week's working bee is...

2) We have a large flag/banner! It's a MSTRS Special - made of Vinyl. Donno how anyone is going to fit it/carry it/use it but I will get it to Maha and/or Mully this week so they can work it all out. Should make the whole procession a bit more visible and help random passers-by work out what's going on.

Maha
9th November 2009, 12:43
1) We will have merchandise for sale at the beginning of the ride - so bring some cash! Arm bands $2; pre-printed vests $25; flags $3 - $5 (size and logo dependent). We may also have other stuff for sale depending on how productive this week's working bee is...

2) We have a large flag/banner! It's a MSTRS Special - made of Vinyl. Donno how anyone is going to fit it/carry it/use it but I will get it to Maha and/or Mully this week so they can work it all out. Should make the whole procession a bit more visible and help random passers-by work out what's going on.

Saw one of those flags yesterday and they are fricken awesome, yeah all we need is broom handle and duct tape...:rockon:

Ixion
9th November 2009, 12:48
FWIW von Klunken has what is pretty much an integrated flag staff holder - originally used to hold the pole thing with the red flashy light on top of it.
However my experience with flags on bikes is not a positive one.

TOTO
9th November 2009, 12:55
I have a question here.

Can I bring a Basket ball instead of a teddy bear ?

Maha
9th November 2009, 13:19
I have a question here.

Can I bring a Basket ball instead of a teddy bear ?

No TOTO, save that for the next years protest.
'The Against all Things Bouncy Protest Ride'

Mully
9th November 2009, 13:30
Can I bring a Basket ball instead of a teddy bear ?

What??

You know this is for Heart Children, right? :bash: :brick:

I just got this image of a kid drawing a face on a basketball (like Wilson in castaway) and cuddling up to it at night.:killingme: :killingme:

Maha
9th November 2009, 13:38
Hmmm... best I talk to my favourite asian rider, and see about stretching the legs of one of his gaggle of bikes...

Hell, I'll cage it as a support/logistics vehicle if I have to!


Here is our Man!!!

The Flagship of the Ride, a cage with a hori (opps sorry Hone) great Flag out the rear window!!!..:woohoo:
Come on Donor me ole' mate wadda ya say?

Mully
9th November 2009, 13:43
If we get Mr Plod along, we should ask if we can attach it to that aerial on the back of his disco taxi.....

chasio
9th November 2009, 14:04
1) We will have merchandise for sale at the beginning of the ride - so bring some cash! Arm bands $2; pre-printed vests $25; flags $3 - $5 (size and logo dependent). We may also have other stuff for sale depending on how productive this week's working bee is...


Just an idea:

It may be worth taking a roll of (clear?) gaffer tape or maybe safety pins for fitting the armbands as they are pretty big! I shocked Mrs Chasio by asking her to show me how to thread her Bernette so I could reduce the size of mine :gob:

Now I find if I slip them on the sleeves before putting the jacket on, they stay in place well.

klingon
9th November 2009, 15:37
Just an idea:

It may be worth taking a roll of (clear?) gaffer tape or maybe safety pins for fitting the armbands as they are pretty big! I shocked Mrs Chasio by asking her to show me how to thread her Bernette so I could reduce the size of mine :gob:

Now I find if I slip them on the sleeves before putting the jacket on, they stay in place well.

Oooh chasio you're full of handy household hints!
Yes, we will bring some safety pins for the arm bands. :yes:

SARGE
9th November 2009, 16:22
Monitoring?....we are keeping them up to speed with whats going on, by phone and by email. We have already changed the route once, and thats another reason why the ride wont morf into anything else. Any crossover Protest ride from where ever, wont have anything to do with this Protest Ride. Any help from the Police will be done from this end.....:rockon:

Mom will slip off the end of the ride at the City after the north western leg and go to the Domain.




COOL!!.. keep the pricks busy! :Police::spanking::nono::devil2::clap:

Kiwi Graham
9th November 2009, 16:29
At interchanges, will these four be stopping and able to keep cars out of the way, when the group has to do pass around to retrace direction (Silverdale overpass, etc)? Or will there be a need for some "expendibles" who will halt traffic and join back in at the tail?


Cool. Wondered if the HP guys would be tasked to do the interchanges, as that will be a few minutes of roadblock required.
They did a superb job at the TelstraClear gathering!

If we are going to "get around as best we can", then perhaps a few sacrificial lambs may like to take this task on? (Stop traffic, rejoin at the rear)

I'm sure when the numbers are estimated that turn up a chat with Mr Plod, Maha & Mully will take place and the final plan for the ride will be made clear and presented in the pre ride briefing.

Get there on time and all will become clear. Anyone joining the ride en-route will be able to see how it is managed, join the ride from the rear, allow the TEC's to drop back (they will wave you past) and follow those in front.

klingon
9th November 2009, 16:39
... Get there on time and all will become clear...

No, no! Get there early and purchase your vest and arm band! :woohoo:

Ixion
9th November 2009, 16:41
Do the SBSC have any thoughts to extend their product range? Scarves, f'instance, or willywarmers? Just a thought?

Maha
9th November 2009, 16:44
Do the SBSC have any thoughts to extend their product range? Scarves, f'instance, or willywarmers? Just a thought?

Fluro willywarmer?....may come in handy for a night time protest...:woohoo:

Kiwi Graham
9th November 2009, 16:44
No, no! Get there early and purchase your vest and arm band! :woohoo:

+1 :yes::niceone:

Maha
9th November 2009, 16:57
Its been posted before but its now added to the 1st post

Ride brief is at 9.40am.

Mom
9th November 2009, 17:27
Do the SBSC have any thoughts to extend their product range? Scarves, f'instance, or willywarmers? Just a thought?

Actually, I do a mean line of Peter Heaters, complete with pom poms to warm the cockles, accessories :innocent:

True/no shit :sunny:

EDIT: They do not come cheap either *ca-ching*

PhantasmNZ
9th November 2009, 19:06
I'm sure when the numbers are estimated that turn up a chat with Mr Plod, Maha & Mully will take place and the final plan for the ride will be made clear and presented in the pre ride briefing.

Get there on time and all will become clear. Anyone joining the ride en-route will be able to see how it is managed, join the ride from the rear, allow the TEC's to drop back (they will wave you past) and follow those in front.

I'm happy to help additional TEC, outriding (blocking junctions etc) - did a bit of that with my old bike club in the UK. Happy to wear full on flouro jacket (with a protest vest too :) ) - just working on a flyer now - will post later...

NONONO
9th November 2009, 19:33
PM from???
"fucking smartass! the last 2 protests that i have heard of have both been on race weekends."

You The Man......

Kiwi Graham
9th November 2009, 19:37
I'm happy to help additional TEC, outriding (blocking junctions etc) - did a bit of that with my old bike club in the UK. Happy to wear full on flouro jacket (with a protest vest too :) ) - just working on a flyer now - will post later...

Maha & Mully are the go to men PhantasmNZ seek them out early on and they will give you a task I'm sure. Thanks for putting your hand up mate.

Maha
9th November 2009, 19:45
I'm happy to help additional TEC, outriding (blocking junctions etc) - did a bit of that with my old bike club in the UK. Happy to wear full on flouro jacket (with a protest vest too :) ) - just working on a flyer now - will post later...

You're it mate, I was going post that I want another TEC seeing as Mom is going to peel off after the North Western.
So seek me out on Saturday.
Thank you PhantasmNZ

Mark

Dean
9th November 2009, 19:47
can I turn up to the carpark and see whats up meet a few of u, not gonna do the full ride costs to much but got a bit of juice to get me out to the autobahn.

Kiwi Graham
9th November 2009, 19:51
can I turn up to the carpark and see whats up meet a few of u, not gonna do the full ride costs to much but got a bit of juice to get me out to the autobahn.

Bring a teddy and you can do the ride on the back of a mighty 14 bud :niceone:

Dean
9th November 2009, 19:55
Bring a teddy and you can do the ride on the back of a mighty 14 bud :niceone:

sawweeet ive pillioned on a gsx1400 a few times on long trips. I will have a look for a teddy then send you a pm. Cheers!

Cr1MiNaL
9th November 2009, 20:39
Should I try convince my pillion to dress up as a teddy bear?

PhantasmNZ
9th November 2009, 20:51
Gonna print some of these up and distribute around bikes in the CBD - please check it over for errors etc - if we're good to go - then feel free to distribute around other areas.

PM me if you want a higher quality version. Designed to print 2-up on a4 (ie a5 flyer)

P

Mom
9th November 2009, 20:54
Gonna print some of these up and distribute around bikes in the CBD - please check it over for errors etc - if we're good to go - then feel free to distribute around other areas.

PM me if you want a higher quality version. Designed to print 2-up on a4 (ie a5 flyer)

P

They look great great! The ride starts at 9am though :dodge:

Good effort!

PhantasmNZ
9th November 2009, 21:10
By the way ... who do we need to speak to about getting this ride publicised on the front page of KB? The Ulysees protest is still up there - be good to get more exposure...

Mully
9th November 2009, 22:03
By the way ... who do we need to speak to about getting this ride publicised on the front page of KB? The Ulysees protest is still up there - be good to get more exposure...

Good thinking.

I've sent an email to the Powers That Be (tm)

Bren
10th November 2009, 08:54
I am thinking of coming up to auckland myself that weekend, so might try to hook into the ride.....

gotta see the folks....not looking forward to that after the shit we went through in may

Maha
10th November 2009, 09:03
Met Service 7 day forecast says Clear skies all weekend. :rockon:

trevsnz
10th November 2009, 16:52
I'll be there, I see there are some people might be meeting up at Westgate @ 9am so I'll pop over there first.
Can't be missed I'll be on a Ninja 650 with an L plate on the back

StoneY
10th November 2009, 16:54
Well I cant be there for this but you all have my warmest regards

Stay safe on your ride, and represent peoples, just represent and make us all proud

Osu!

aahsv
10th November 2009, 17:35
They look great great! The ride starts at 9am though :dodge:

Good effort!

Huh? I thought departure was at 10am? :slap:

Mom
10th November 2009, 17:41
Huh? I thought departure was at 10am? :slap:

Departure is 10 am.

I got a bit confused, we are going to be there for 9am to get organised.

Maha
10th November 2009, 18:03
Well I cant be there for this but you all have my warmest regards

Stay safe on your ride, and represent peoples, just represent and make us all proud

Osu!

Keeping the issue in the public eye is the objective on Saturday, a prelude to next weeks massive onslaught if you will...:rockon:

PhantasmNZ
10th November 2009, 18:55
Departure is 10 am.

I got a bit confused, we are going to be there for 9am to get organised.

Ahh... thought you were talking about me putting a PM intead of AM in the first draft (fixed since)

I droped maybe 50 or so on bikes in the CBD (though quite a few were scooters who wuoldn't be able to do the ride anyway.

Had fairly positive comments from the few bikers I actually saw

Mom
10th November 2009, 19:08
Ahh... thought you were talking about me putting a PM intead of AM in the first draft (fixed since)

I droped maybe 50 or so on bikes in the CBD (though quite a few were scooters who wuoldn't be able to do the ride anyway.

Had fairly positive comments from the few bikers I actually saw

Top man :2thumbsup

Clean_up
10th November 2009, 22:10
Gonna print some of these up and distribute around bikes in the CBD - please check it over for errors etc - if we're good to go - then feel free to distribute around other areas.

PM me if you want a higher quality version. Designed to print 2-up on a4 (ie a5 flyer)

P
nice flyer, whats with the link in it though? goes to some weird job website... :confused:

PhantasmNZ
10th November 2009, 22:17
you must've mistyped... it goes to this thread...

http://bit.ly/fg05R

SARGE
10th November 2009, 22:21
Met Service 7 day forecast says Clear skies all weekend. :rockon:

so pack your wet weather gear and a small survival kit :doh:

PhantasmNZ
10th November 2009, 22:22
for the uninitiated... ..it's a bit.ly address - one of many URL shortening services (made more popular with the rise of twitter and the like) - but also convenient for posting a complicated URL to a thread in a forum without having to type in a million character...

Sure http://bit.ly/fg05R is a little cryptic - but so is "http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=111425&page=12" - and I know which one I'd rather type ... ;)

Maha
10th November 2009, 22:23
so pack your wet weather gear and a small survival kit :doh:

Bloody Met Service.........:Oops:

Na I have total faith in what I read on the net...:sunny:

PhantasmNZ
10th November 2009, 22:23
so pack your wet weather gear and a small survival kit :doh:

eek - better hunt for my torch, radio, canned food and bottled water ..

SARGE
10th November 2009, 22:26
eek - better hunt for my torch, radio, canned food and bottled water ..

nah ... i'll just bring some spare ammo.. 4-500 rounds or so should do it .. i forecast having enough food and water to last months after the ammo runs out ...

PhantasmNZ
10th November 2009, 22:27
Na I have total faith in what I read on the net...:sunny:

well ... I'd trust www.metservice.co.nz before I trusted www.acc.co.nz...

Maha
10th November 2009, 22:28
nah ... i'll just bring some spare ammo.. 4-500 rounds or so should do it .. i forecast having enough food and water to last months after the ammo runs out ...

Theres BK at the start and some wild Turkeys in the adjacent paddocks

SARGE
10th November 2009, 22:29
wild Turkeys in the adjacent paddocks

cool.. the 101 proof or the shit grocery store 40 proof ?

Cr1MiNaL
11th November 2009, 09:03
What time does this two up CBD GP begin again....


edit: 9.45 am race briefing for a 10 am race start. :yes:

TOTO
11th November 2009, 10:20
What time does this two up CBD GP begin again....


edit: 9.45 am race briefing for a 10 am race start. :yes:

easy tiger, you need your pit lane pass first.

klingon
11th November 2009, 10:46
Theres BK at the start and some wild Turkeys in the adjacent paddocks

Seriously though, has anyone let someone with a coffee cart know where the finish line is? I bet they will sell heaps of coffee to thirsty riders at about mid-day.

I can give one a call today if you like?

UberRhys
11th November 2009, 10:57
• Heading North from the Autobahn to the Silverdale off ramp/then heading back into Auckland City.

• Harbour Bridge, we will be using Lane 4 only. That will take us onto the North Western Motorway without lane changes.

• We will use the two outside lanes of the North Western.

• At the end of the North Western, we will use the light controlled round-a-bout and head back towards the city using the Lane Marked Hamilton/South (Southern Motorway)

• Once on the Southern Motorway we will stay in Lane 1 heading for Papakura.

• Taking the Papakura off-ramp crossing the Motorway and make our way back into the City

• Exit the Motorway at the Wellesley Street off ramp and head for the Auckland domain.

• Lower Domain Rd is off Stanley Street.

• There will someone on point at the entrance to the Domain.

• Finishing up at the Auckland Museum.

There may well be a few people that want to talk when we get there.

Did this map on Google of the route. Quite an epic ride. I'm sure it will have the desired look. :woohoo::woohoo:

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Mom
11th November 2009, 11:02
Did this map on Google of the route. Quite an epic ride. I'm sure it will have the desired look. :woohoo::woohoo:



That does not show anything to me, I am probably doing something wrong though.

KwakaZM
11th November 2009, 11:09
The Met forecast has gone back to a bright sunny day... Woohoo

The forecast should only be more precise as time nears by....

PhantasmNZ
11th November 2009, 12:53
Seriously though, has anyone let someone with a coffee cart know where the finish line is? I bet they will sell heaps of coffee to thirsty riders at about mid-day.

I can give one a call today if you like?

A mate of mine - also a biker - did the coffee @ the manakau Ulysees gig - He's based out of New Lynn-ish but sure he'd be happy to help if you're stuck.

Tell him Steve H put you onto him - deatils are Steve Lloyd, phone 0212298818

Mully
11th November 2009, 13:08
Seriously though, has anyone let someone with a coffee cart know where the finish line is? I bet they will sell heaps of coffee to thirsty riders at about mid-day.

I can give one a call today if you like?

Whey hey.

Good plan. Can you organise a sausage sizzle too - people will probably be a bit peckish......

Reckless
11th November 2009, 13:19
Right'O I'll be there! Gonna be on my sons little 250 with L plates LOL!! I calculated a 250 takes just as much room up on a protest ride as my old thou would, so what the hell LOL!!

Anyway reason for my post is I got notice Via some other riders by email about this. The word seems to be getting out. There is 2-5 of them coming that are not members here so you might find there is a few more turn up than the 60 registered! Hopefully anyway!

PhantasmNZ
11th November 2009, 13:26
Ok... hopefully this works in google maps...

EDIT: emdbedded map doesn't work - go to the link below...

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=108146292440155562330.0004774c94066b26e529c&z=11

GOONR
11th November 2009, 13:39
Right'O I'll be there! Gonna be on my sons little 250 with L plates LOL!! I calculated a 250 takes just as much room up on a protest ride as my old thou would, so what the hell LOL!!

Anyway reason for my post is I got notice Via some other riders by email about this. The word seems to be getting out. There is 2-5 of them coming that are not members here so you might find there is a few more turn up than the 60 registered! Hopefully anyway!

Cool, so I won't be the only "L" marked 250 then... :woohoo:

klingon
11th November 2009, 13:44
A mate of mine - also a biker - did the coffee @ the manakau Ulysees gig - He's based out of New Lynn-ish but sure he'd be happy to help if you're stuck.

Tell him Steve H put you onto him - deatils are Steve Lloyd, phone 0212298818

Thanks for that! I gave him a call and he said he would see what he could do... I found it hard to predict numbers for the event so I don't know if he will think it's even worthwhile, but we will see on the day!

:drinkup: <-- Cappuccino :msn-wink:

Mully
11th November 2009, 13:44
Cool, so I won't be the only "L" marked 250 then... :woohoo:

I actually thought you weren't allowed to display an "L" unless you were on a learners?

GOONR
11th November 2009, 13:49
I actually thought you weren't allowed to display an "L" unless you were on a learners?

I think that is correct, but I am so I'm good, I am slightly worried about getting pinged for going over 70KPH though.

Mully
11th November 2009, 13:57
I think that is correct, but I am so I'm good, I am slightly worried about getting pinged for going over 70KPH though.

We won't be going much faster than that anyway. Just get a spot near the front of the bunch.

GOONR
11th November 2009, 14:08
We won't be going much faster than that anyway. Just get a spot near the front of the bunch.

Yeah will do.

This is the first big ride I have been on, I've only been riding for about 4 months, if it get's a bit uncomfortable for me I'm going to peel off then head to the end point on my own.

trevsnz
11th November 2009, 14:11
I actually thought you weren't allowed to display an "L" unless you were on a learners?

umm I have an L plate on my 650cc Bike, pass my learners many many years ago but because my parter is a learner and will not ride on her own I have a L plate to warn people behind that I'm going slow for a reason.

I've handed out a few of the Leaflets so hopefully I've added a few more riders for Saturday.

Mom
11th November 2009, 14:12
Yeah will do.

This is the first big ride I have been on, I've only been riding for about 4 months, if it get's a bit uncomfortable for me I'm going to peel off then head to the end point on my own.

I think you will find Maha has a riding buddy for you to ride with mate. You will be absolutely fine, probably the hardest bit will be the start point and anywhere the ride slows right down, trick to managing these times is to use your clutch. Find me on the day and I will explain more what I mean.

PhantasmNZ
11th November 2009, 14:25
Yeah will do.

This is the first big ride I have been on, I've only been riding for about 4 months, if it get's a bit uncomfortable for me I'm going to peel off then head to the end point on my own.

Ride only within your limits is the key point (though nobody will be going very fast). There's a great guide to group riding somewhere around here on KB.

Might be an idea if you do want to head off on your own to let one of us at the back of the pack (TECs) know so we don't think u r in trouble (breakdown etc) (at least wave us on)

allycatz
11th November 2009, 14:28
Hey Maha & Mom...Ive posted off a soft toy to you guys, hope it gets there in time

Maha
11th November 2009, 14:40
Hey Maha & Mom...Ive posted off a soft toy to you guys, hope it gets there in time

Thank you allycatz thats way cool...:rockon:

Maha
11th November 2009, 15:03
Been some good ideas put forward today, awesome to see some positive and lateral thinking going on. Like one post mentioned, there are those that are not KBers who know about this event (it is in this months issue of the BRONZ news letter) and although the registered number sits in the mid 60's, the feeling is that number could multiply easily to god knows how many. What ever the number will be, its going to be a fantastic day for any who take part. The organisers and the ride controllers are a great bunch of people and we will endeavour to make this day very successful.

GOONR
11th November 2009, 15:19
Ride only within your limits is the key point (though nobody will be going very fast). There's a great guide to group riding somewhere around here on KB.

Might be an idea if you do want to head off on your own to let one of us at the back of the pack (TECs) know so we don't think u r in trouble (breakdown etc) (at least wave us on)

Yeah, I know my limit's quite well and am under no illusions, I'm a new rider with a lot to learn and take on board. If I do get uncomfortable and decide to peel off I will make it obvious that I'm not in trouble and wave people on..

I'm going to hunt out Mom and Maha when I get to the start point and have a chat just to make sure I'm Ok with everything.

I am sure that I will be fine, I'm just a cautious kinda person.

Maha
11th November 2009, 15:25
Yeah, I know my limit's quite well and am under no illusions, I'm a new rider with a lot to learn and take on board. If I do get uncomfortable and decide to peel off I will make it obvious that I'm not in trouble and wave people on..

I'm going to hunt out Mom and Maha when I get to the start point and have a chat just to make sure I'm Ok with everything.

I am sure that I will be fine, I'm just a cautious kinda person.

It can be a bit daunting when riding in a large group for a new rider (other bikes passing etc) but the difference here is, there will be no passing, once you are in formation, thats where you will stay. The speed will be controlled by some experienced riders and this should ensure a nice flowing ride. You will be fine. Yes, come have a chat with me on Saturday Morning when you get there.

Dean
11th November 2009, 15:31
Yeah, I know my limit's quite well and am under no illusions, I'm a new rider with a lot to learn and take on board. If I do get uncomfortable and decide to peel off I will make it obvious that I'm not in trouble and wave people on..

I'm going to hunt out Mom and Maha when I get to the start point and have a chat just to make sure I'm Ok with everything.

I am sure that I will be fine, I'm just a cautious kinda person.

No worries man im a noob on a lil 250 also, I should make it to the ride on my yellow zeal. Probs at the front is the best place to be like mom said, or if you want to hang back with the TEC.

Oh btw how much K's is the full ride?

Maha
11th November 2009, 15:34
No worries man im a noob on a lil 250 also, I should make it to the ride on my yellow zeal. Probs at the front is the best place to be like mom said, or if you want to hang back with the TEC.

Oh btw how much K's is the full ride?

How many K's?

Well the original route was about 120 K's.
The new improved route should be about the same.

Mully
11th November 2009, 15:40
How many K's?

Well the original route was about 120 K's.
The new improve route should be about the same.

New improved route..... :killingme:

Ixion
11th November 2009, 15:46
I actually thought you weren't allowed to display an "L" unless you were on a learners?

Or, actually instructing a learner. T he rule is silent about the learner and instructor being on different vehicles (as always it assumes a car). But it clearly says that you can display an L plate if you are instructing. Which covers this case I think

Mully
11th November 2009, 15:52
Or, actually instructing a learner. T he rule is silent about the learner and instructor being on different vehicles (as always it assumes a car). But it clearly says that you can display an L plate if you are instructing. Which covers this case I think

Aha, righto then.

Instructing, not instructor? Don't need an "I" endorsment on your licence?

Ixion
11th November 2009, 16:01
Only if instructing for hire or reward. Otherwise Mum or dad couldn't teach junior to drive

Big Dog
11th November 2009, 16:38
What's with all these protests being on the only day of the week I cannot attend?

Surely the fact that there is one every saturday mitigates some of the significance? How about a sunday one to show that even those of us cursed to work on saturday care?

Maha
11th November 2009, 16:40
What's with all these protests being on the only day of the week I cannot attend?

Surely the fact that there is one every saturday mitigates some of the significance? How about a sunday one to show that even those of us cursed to work on saturday care?

You can feel a cold coming on eh?

Kiwi Graham
11th November 2009, 16:45
What's with all these protests being on the only day of the week I cannot attend?

Surely the fact that there is one every saturday mitigates some of the significance? How about a sunday one to show that even those of us cursed to work on saturday care?


You can feel a cold coming on eh?

Ya sounding a bit rough there Big Dog, must be coming down with something :yes:

Big Dog
11th November 2009, 18:21
You can feel a cold coming on eh?

Unfortunately not. ATM I only work one day a week. Just got laid off for a second time in 11 months.

Mom
11th November 2009, 18:23
Unfortunately not. ATM I only work one day a week. Just got laid off for a second time in 11 months.

Arse....biscuit....

Make sure you tell all your friends about it. Bummer though, would have been nice to get a up-hug ;)

Mully
11th November 2009, 19:07
Unfortunately not. ATM I only work one day a week. Just got laid off for a second time in 11 months.

So, you'd be wanting someone to give the bus a run then??

raster
11th November 2009, 20:03
How about someone with flyers peeling off on occupied overbridges and giving out flyers??

Or would that mess things up too much.

raster
11th November 2009, 20:06
Fantastic work guys, I'm hoping to have 2 non KB'ers coming up from Turangi.

Words getting around.

Mully
11th November 2009, 20:11
How about someone with flyers peeling off on occupied overbridges and giving out flyers??

Or would that mess things up too much.

Nice thought, but I think your "or would that mess things up too much" bit is dead on.

I think we're at risk of biting off more than we can chew with the add-ons - people coming and going too much will just get too confusing (for us and the attendant cops)

Maha
11th November 2009, 20:23
Fantastic work guys, I'm hoping to have 2 non KB'ers coming up from Turangi.

Words getting around.


Nice thought, but I think your "or would that mess things up too much" bit is dead on.

I think we're at risk of biting off more than we can chew with the add-ons - people coming and going too much will just get too confusing (for us and the attendant cops)

Yes I concur with Mully, nice thought but na, if anyone happens to be on the over bridges looking, they will know what we are on about.

Mully
11th November 2009, 20:28
Hey all,

Just a quick reminder for peeps who are new to reasonable distance group riding with no stops. (this will be reminded on Saturday).

Saturday is looking like being a scorcher, so please ensure you are well hydrated for the ride. Coffee is not good for hydration before the ride.

The nana in me also suggests a good breakfast prior to the ride - as per the other thread, group riding requires concentration and being hungry and dehydrated takes your mind off the job at hand.

I'd also suggest not getting on the turps too hard the night before and try to get a reasonable night's sleep

(Maybe I should have asked Mom to write this post)

cheers,
Mully

Big Dog
11th November 2009, 22:02
So, you'd be wanting someone to give the bus a run then??

Are you sure you could handle the downgrade in power?
The whole idea is to show how responsible we are after all...

Big Dog
11th November 2009, 22:04
Arse....biscuit....

Make sure you tell all your friends about it. Bummer though, would have been nice to get a up-hug ;)

Text me when if your still in town after about three and I'll see what I can do.:innocent:

PhantasmNZ
11th November 2009, 23:21
How many K's?

Well the original route was about 120 K's.
The new improved route should be about the same.

Goooooooogle reck'ns 129 k's - so 'bout the same is pretty much dead on :)

Route here: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=108146292440155562330.0004774c94066b26e529c&z=11

(tip - if you are unfamiliar with any aspect of the route - use google maps and use the streetview feature to see the intersections etc we will use...)

Gremlin
11th November 2009, 23:38
I haven't seen anyone asking for Bear pickups, but if any collection point is going to have too many to carry themselves, I can assist if needed, ideally pick up on Friday night....

DIN PELENDA
12th November 2009, 00:24
How many K's?

Well the original route was about 120 K's.
The new improved route should be about the same.

Hi Mark
some bad SAR'ers sugesting we join you for ride, so some of SAR's will be there on Saturday as our ride is on same day, :angry: straight roads and 90km/hr is just not good for R1, so I my take my unregistred ST for ride :shutup: and you going to love my custom make ACC shirt, the only one like that with spelling mistakes.
Anyway as we finish ride in Domaine I be so depressed so I'm going to have "world best and chipest pica " and drink:beer: Archie's Restaurant and Pizzeria 61 Davis Crescent New Market, just round corner from Domaine and anyone can have lunch and drink with me :done:.

DidJit
12th November 2009, 06:31
Sorry about that, Din... :Oops:

Mom
12th November 2009, 06:35
(Maybe I should have asked Mom to write this post)


Nice post there Mully. Yes to all of the things that you said, but one other thing, a hat! Slip/slop/slap Water is the best thing to be drinking too.

It is going to be a pearler :sunny: on Saturday, and very warm by the time we finish up at the domain.

Clean_up
12th November 2009, 07:56
hey everyone, this will be my first group ride, and i am really looking forward to it :) have read the group rider guide, and although it sounds a little daunting (sp?) im sure it will all go smoothly. I have been riding for 5 months now, and will probably find somewhere to pop my 'L' plate back on for the ride, just to make sure peeps around me are aware i am still on my loonie, er, learners, licence :P who should i look for on sat morning to let them know that this is my first group ride?

GOONR
12th November 2009, 08:00
hey everyone, this will be my first group ride, and i am really looking forward to it :) have read the group rider guide, and although it sounds a little daunting (sp?) im sure it will all go smoothly. I have been riding for 5 months now, and will probably find somewhere to pop my 'L' plate back on for the ride, just to make sure peeps around me are aware i am still on my loonie, er, learners, licence :P who should i look for on sat morning to let them know that this is my first group ride?

Hey,

I'm exactly the same, Maha and or Mom seem the best bet..

Should be a good day!:wari:

Cr1MiNaL
12th November 2009, 08:17
You guys end up pretty much where I live. I'm wondering if I should just meet you there. Can't really see the point of spilling 30 bucks of gas going up and down the motorways on an R1.

Mully
12th November 2009, 08:24
Can't really see the point of spilling 30 bucks of gas going up and down the motorways on an R1.

I thought ACC was keen to give you $700-odd worth of points per year.

Welcome to join in just at the end. We should be at the Domain from approx midday (although Mom will be there earlier)

Pixie
12th November 2009, 08:55
Hey all,

Just a quick reminder for peeps who are new to reasonable distance group riding with no stops. (this will be reminded on Saturday).

Saturday is looking like being a scorcher, so please ensure you are well hydrated for the ride. Coffee is not good for hydration before the ride.

The nana in me also suggests a good breakfast prior to the ride - as per the other thread, group riding requires concentration and being hungry and dehydrated takes your mind off the job at hand.

I'd also suggest not getting on the turps too hard the night before and try to get a reasonable night's sleep

(Maybe I should have asked Mom to write this post)

cheers,
Mully
And poo before you go

Mully
12th November 2009, 08:57
And poo before you go

Good point.

Make sure you go toilet before we leave.

And don't make me come back there. Or turn this teddy bear ride around.

*waggles finger*

DidJit
12th November 2009, 09:38
You guys end up pretty much where I live. I'm wondering if I should just meet you there. ...

Shot of concrete? ;)

Mully
12th November 2009, 11:54
Another note:

As per this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=112361) thread, I would like to emphasise that the same emotion applies to this ride.

If you want to cause trouble ("legally" or otherwise), please do not attend this gathering or ride
If you want to race, please do not attend this gathering or ride
If you want to show how good your wheelies, stoppies or burnouts are, please do not attend this gathering or ride
If you have any doubt about your ability to restrain yourself and act like a grown up, please do not attend this gathering or ride.

Our intention is to show Wellington that a big chunk of voting-age people are not happy about the proposed levy increases, and to maintain the (generally positive) public support that we have. As well as bring some happiness into sick children's lives.

In order to do this, we need to behave like adults.

DidJit
12th November 2009, 12:22
Thanks mum. ;)

DIN PELENDA
12th November 2009, 13:26
You guys end up pretty much where I live. I'm wondering if I should just meet you there. Can't really see the point of spilling 30 bucks of gas going up and down the motorways on an R1. Whose keen for a real charity protest ride at 200kmph up 16 after? lol

I my just have to join you on that one !

Maha
12th November 2009, 13:36
Mom contacted Phil Goffs office yesterday to invite him along. He phoned today to say yes he can do that, he will probably join us on the Southern on our way back into the City.

TV1 are showing a bit of interest also....:wari:

DIN PELENDA
12th November 2009, 13:39
Sorry about that, Din... :Oops:

You OK bro, are you coming ?

DidJit
12th November 2009, 13:41
You OK bro, are you coming ?

Yeah bro. Should be able to keep up with this ride.

DIN PELENDA
12th November 2009, 14:04
Mom contacted Phil Goffs office yesterday to invite him along. He phoned today to say yes he can do that, he will probably join us on the Southern on our way back into the City.

TV1 are showing a bit of interest also....:wari:

That explain why Harawira attack Goff, for him trip to France is just not enough he wont's Goffs bike 2:laugh:.
Good on you Mark ride is getting lot more serious !