Bikoi feedback

[snuffles]

Only a couple or more words to describe this.

Bloddy greta, spectacle........awsome etc

Have never felt so much pride in motorcycling....what a buzz. Thousands of well behaved ordely bikers, giving it to the man.

Wow....:chase:

[vifferman]

Thousands of well behaved ordely bikers, giving it to the man.
Wow. :eek:
I bet the man will be limping (or at least, walking around bow-legged) for a very long time then...

[Str8 Jacket]

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT!!!!

Yep, farken awesome turnout. Everyone did the motorcycling community proud today!!

[James Deuce]

I learned something today. Something I've been told for years, read about, watched......

You can get in anywhere if you just look like you belong.

Boy did I have fun.

[vifferman]

I learned something today. Something I've been told for years, read about, watched......

You can get in anywhere is you just look like you belong.

Boy did I have fun.
So, you were taken as being a real live journalist?
Or are you talking about people mistaking you for a pollie?



OMIGOD!! :eek5:
You can be arrested for impersonating a pleece oroficer, y'know. :confused:

[James Deuce]

OMIGOD!! :eek5:
You can be arrested for impersonating a pleece oroficer, y'know. :confused:

Someone thought I was a journo.

I was sure I saw Hitcher in Police uniform, so that wasn't me.

[Azi Dahaka]

the bull shit chant was quite good considering it was off de cuff

[vifferman]

Someone thought I was a journo.
Ah. My first guess then.
They were wrong, obviously - your writing is WAY too good for the average level of journalistic waffle. If you ever start actually thinking you are a journalist (rather than a talented part-timer/amateur but genius literary raconteur) slap yourself about the head.

Oh - and keep up the excellent work, Sir! :niceone:

[Mikkel]

Ah. My first guess then.
They were wrong, obviously - your writing is WAY too good for the average level of journalistic waffle. If you ever start actually thinking you are a journalist (rather than a talented part-timer/amateur but genius literary raconteur) slap yourself about the head.

Oh - and keep up the excellent work, Sir! :niceone:

In all seriousness, considering the NZ newspapers I have seen, there are no real journalists in NZ.

By a real journalist I mean someone who exercises critical thought, does research, digs deeper into the dirt and have the balls to bring the story forward. Not just someone who reports on what the authorities have said and what the latest sports results are. ...oh, and keeps us informed on the exciting ongoings in the lives of the celebrities.

[James Deuce]

oh, and keeps us informed on the exciting ongoings in the lives of the celebrities.
Trust me, the photos of Les are not what you want to see in the celebrity columns. My camera went all blurry after photographing and filming Les and Nick Smith.

[vifferman]

In all seriousness, considering the NZ newspapers I have seen, there are no real journalists in NZ.

By a real journalist I mean someone who exercises critical thought, does research, digs deeper into the dirt and have the balls to bring the story forward. Not just someone who reports on what the authorities have said and what the latest sports results are. ...oh, and keeps us informed on the exciting ongoings in the lives of the celebrities.
Well, I knew that, so I was using the term 'journalist' in the Kiwi sense - those who call themselves a journalist, but who do not exercise critical thought, does only superficial research (usually on teh Interdweeb), digs a shallow grave into the dirt and doesn't have the balls to bring the story forward. Y'know - just someone who reports on what the authorities have said and what the latest sports results are. ...oh, and keeps us informed on the exciting ongoings in the lives of the celebrities.

As you said, there are no real journalists in NZ. Anyone who practices real journalism would soon wither sink to the level of the other kind, or leave the country, or take up another career out of frustration.

[Big Dave]

Trust me, the photos of Les are not what you want to see in the celebrity columns. My camera went all blurry after photographing and filming Les and Nick Smith.


Stop faffing about on here and get it on yer blog then. Harrrumph! :chase:

[mashman]

Stop faffing about on here and get it on yer blog then. Harrrumph! :chase:

Ditto... i was Marshaling at the westpac and missed it all... good god man blog it so i can find out what happened!!! what are you doing reading this, go go fly like the wind man...

[AllanB]

So how many Temporary Citizens turned up do you estimate?

Mental note - must watch News tonight.

Mental note - must leave work in time to get home to watch news tonight ......

[Mikkel]

Trust me, the photos of Les are not what you want to see in the celebrity columns. My camera went all blurry after photographing and filming Les and Nick Smith.

Les might be celebrated, but he's got substance - i.e. not a celebrity.

Nick Smith might not have substance, but he's hardly being celebrated.



And for the record, I was - despite the sarcastic poke at the pop-culture coverage that seems to be taking up half of the world news sections - dead serious. NZ journalistic standards are appalling. Take the bit from this (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3068553/Biker-protest-heads-to-Parliament) source:


ACC paid more than $62 million for motorcycle riders last year and collected $12.3m in levies from them.

That statement is being presented as fact. I'd say it's highly debatable, if not outright incorrect.

According to NZTA MVR statistics book 2008 (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/statistics/motor-vehicle-registration/2008/index.html) there was 55,180 motorcycles and 19,960 mopeds - excluding vehicles on excemption licenses. If motorcycles paid a $250 and mopeds a $70 ACC levy through registration - this would add up to $15,192,200 and that's without taking the fuel levy into account. As such there's gotta be an error somewhere, but the "news"papers most likely couldn't be bothered actually looking into something like that I suppose.
Other people on here have presented figures from ACC to suggest that the claimed $62 million in paid claims seems a bit too high...

An interesting fact from the NZTA MVR statistics book 2008 is the following:

Total licensed motorcycles, excluding excemption licenses (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/statistics/motor-vehicle-registration/2008/table-31.html): 55,180
Total number of motorcycles (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/statistics/motor-vehicle-registration/2008/table-37.html): 106454
Total licensed cars, excluding excemption licenses (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/statistics/motor-vehicle-registration/2008/table-31.html): 2,287,697
Total number of cars (http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/statistics/motor-vehicle-registration/2008/table-37.html): 2,789,676

As such only 51.8% of all motorcycles are licensed compared to 82.0% for cars. As such there is a considerable discrepancy between car and motorcycle registration in regards to carrying the burden for the entirety of either type of vehicle.

[Mikkel]

Well, I knew that, so I was using the term 'journalist' in the Kiwi sense - those who call themselves a journalist, but who do not exercise critical thought, does only superficial research (usually on teh Interdweeb), digs a shallow grave into the dirt and doesn't have the balls to bring the story forward. Y'know - just someone who reports on what the authorities have said and what the latest sports results are. ...oh, and keeps us informed on the exciting ongoings in the lives of the celebrities.

As you said, there are no real journalists in NZ. Anyone who practices real journalism would soon wither sink to the level of the other kind, or leave the country, or take up another career out of frustration.

Superficial research, even if only on the net, should be enough in this case. My concern is apparent lacking desire to actually ask questions of substance.

[mashman]

Superficial research, even if only on the net, should be enough in this case. My concern is apparent lacking desire to actually ask questions of substance.

That's a big part of the problem though, noone can agree on what the correct questions are to ask and there's still the fact that you have to get them listened to, let alone actioned by entrenched management/politicians who are comfy in their job because noone asks anything of them, let alone asking them a challenging question... it's your typical garbage in garbage out scenario...

[jetboy]

Just got back to Auckland from the BIKEOI.

1) What an awesome, awesome turnout. I was grinning the whole way in as my convoy collected more and more bikes, and then to see the several-kilometer-long queue to get into Wellington...awesome.

2) Well done and thanks to the organisers!

3) I need sleep and a shower. Goodnight.

[Hitcher]

I was sure I saw Hitcher in Police uniform, so that wasn't me.
I was wearing my Tron suit, so it wasn't me.

[rustic101]

do / organise I think we should try and get sponsership from a water company like coke who ever Tui would be great but some may not want to leave. Not that we wellywood folks don't love ya, just that we like red wine and beer to ourselves ;)

But seriously a water point or red bull point would have been good :)

[Little Miss Trouble]

The red bull girls were at the BRONZ departure in Auckland & apparently were at parliament too (though I was too busy coaxing smelly bikers into buying badges to notice)