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posthumourus
26th November 2009, 20:20
Do you think there is enough demand for one in NZ ?

I know Scootling (tuning focus) and Magnetos (old vespa owner focus) have one but they have very little traffic and would get pretty lonely rather quickly.
I have the resources to create a hosted forum but wouldnt want to do so if there is no demand and it ends up in the deserted forum graveyard.


Anyways shout it up or knock it down-- feedback required
cheers

Tom

p.dath
26th November 2009, 20:41
What's wrong with the scooter forum on KB? What would your forum provide that the current KB scooter forum doesn't?

The Everlasting
26th November 2009, 20:47
If the one on here isn't enough,try the ScootDawg Forum,i got a lot of info from there.

http://scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?

XRVrider
26th November 2009, 21:09
Set it up mate. You will need to cater for all scoots, maybe different makes and styles. Modern, classic, commuters, etc... You will get all walks of life of the scooter world.

Scootling is OK, Magnetos's as well, but they cater for their types a bit. A more general site might work. Do it, it will get some interest, just how much you wont know until you try.

XRVrider
26th November 2009, 21:11
What's wrong with the scooter forum on KB? What would your forum provide that the current KB scooter forum doesn't?

It would be free of the cocks who post shit in the scooter section on how big their hand is on their sports bike willy.

Virago
26th November 2009, 21:19
It would be free of the cocks who post shit in the scooter section on how big their hand is on their sports bike willy.

How to win friends and influence people, eh...? :laugh:

However, that aspect is a double-edged sword. While being a sub-forum of KB means that you'll get a few dick-heads posting, you'll also get the attention of some of the best motorcycle gurus in NZ.

XRVrider
26th November 2009, 21:33
How to win friends and influence people, eh...? :laugh:

However, that aspect is a double-edged sword. While being a sub-forum of KB means that you'll get a few dick-heads posting, you'll also get the attention of some of the best motorcycle gurus in NZ.

Yeah aint friends with those who have screwed some good threads on here, scared scooterists and first timers off from posting, so would be nice to keep those guru's and lose the twats. Maybe a whole new site would give us that chance. KB recently lost a major guru because of some knobs, that aint good.

Spearfish
26th November 2009, 23:38
Yeah aint friends with those who have screwed some good threads on here, scared scooterists and first timers off from posting, so would be nice to keep those guru's and lose the twats. Maybe a whole new site would give us that chance. KB recently lost a major guru because of some knobs, that aint good.

Cant put all bikers in one box with just one label and say the job is done,
Cant do the same with scooter riders either.
For me there is to much riding experience and information here, even if I do have to dodge the odd biker swinging a handbag at a scooterist.

YellowDog
27th November 2009, 05:17
What's wrong with the scooter forum on KB? What would your forum provide that the current KB scooter forum doesn't?
Is this right that Scooters are considered 'Off-Topic' and not classed by KB as Motorcyclists?

This seems a bit harsh, but surely scooter riders should take the hint as being unwelcome.

This is not my personal view. I rode a scooter for a few years for getting to town and carrying shopping. Prefer a larger wheeled vehicle for the open road.

Dave Lobster
27th November 2009, 06:17
A solely scooter forum is always going to struggle to get a wide audience.

IMO, because you can't appeal to everyone who rides a scooter and please all of them.

I can't see a Burgman rider, for instance, being too interested in reading countless threads about vespers or Lambrettas. Or indeed, the 'modern' vesper types being interested in reading about anything other than where the next latte run is.
And then you've got the countless little fifty type people.

As it stands, there's already a plethora of scooter forums. Not necessarily NZ based, but they are there. They do tend to be aimed at niches, rather than scooter wide.

Also, once you include 'resources', money needs to be spent. My own scooter forum is free..

XRVrider
27th November 2009, 07:00
Cant put all bikers in one box with just one label and say the job is done,
Cant do the same with scooter riders either.
For me there is to much riding experience and information here, even if I do have to dodge the odd biker swinging a handbag at a scooterist.

Theres heaps of different kinds of bikes, and scooters have just as much variation within their ranks. So to have a separate scooter forum wont hurt.

If people are only interested in just scooters... then they will have their place, and dont have to dodge any GSX riders stating they are gay faggots.. So thats a good thing. It might be small but so is the scooter section on here. For a positive angle, if you have the gumption to do this, I for one will be involved and plenty of others will no doubt have a look in. Just need different types of scooter sections, ie The Burgers can have their own etc...

The Everlasting
27th November 2009, 08:49
That reminds me,last friday while riding my scooter I was abused and given the bird by a jackass cunt in a ute,I so wanted to get off it and smash his face in,I think I heard the word faggot a few times,he was also laughing his head off,I wonder if he would have had the same attitude if I was on my Bandit.....

Spearfish
27th November 2009, 09:07
That reminds me,last friday while riding my scooter I was abused and given the bird by a jackass cunt in a ute,I so wanted to get off it and smash his face in,I think I heard the word faggot a few times,he was also laughing his head off,I wonder if he would have had the same attitude if I was on my Bandit.....

If he did, what would you have done differently on a bike? most comments by cagers are made with the bravery of being in retreat.

posthumourus
27th November 2009, 11:27
thanks for the feedback guys.

Opinion seems to be divided between suffering the indignity of redneck bikers on here but if you turn the other cheek you have access to " expertise or gurus " and others who say enough of not being welcome lets have our own forum as long as it caters for all types of scooterists.

I think it may be wise to wait a bit longer and see how this thread develops before making any commitments.

cheers

Del Fuego
27th November 2009, 14:32
Could always link it to a major scooter site to take advantage of global traffic... We are considering adding a forum to ours but at the moment we are holding fire...

Dave Lobster
27th November 2009, 14:40
Opinion seems to be divided between suffering the indignity of redneck bikers on here but if you turn the other cheek you have access to " expertise or gurus " and others who say enough of not being welcome lets have our own forum as long as it caters for all types of scooterists.



Don't the guru sites already exist? There's a couple (not NZ based) for real scooters. Scooterotica springs to mind, even though it's turning into a backslappping festival. There's a US based one for Burgervans. Two now, I think. One of them has a lot of followers that have imaginary friends, which ruins it a bit. Heaps of them for twist 'n' go mopeds. I'm sure SIP has one too.

I'm just not convinced that a forum that's all encompassing for scooters will be able to please a minority, let alone a majority.

allycatz
27th November 2009, 14:46
Well I have found the bike guys on here incredibly helpful and in the main sympathetic to this old scooterist. Yup the scoots cop some flac but only cos they know we bite and its mainly in good humour. Likewise I am quite happy to go play in some of the other threads. Don't take it so seriously. There will always be knockers of scooters , like knockers of any other type of bike. Scroll back thru the scooter Forum on here, theres plenty of good advice available. I wouldn't use another scooter site unless its to get another opinion on the bigger scooters I am considering buying.

The Everlasting
27th November 2009, 14:48
If he did, what would you have done differently on a bike? most comments by cagers are made with the bravery of being in retreat.



Well on the bike I would not have gotten in his way for a brief second...

Spearfish
27th November 2009, 15:10
Well on the bike I would not have gotten in his way for a brief second...

Haha Fair call

XRVrider
27th November 2009, 21:27
Go the positive, if you dont try you dont succeed. Loads of examples from the past need not be quoted... blah blah. Cmon lets have something new and if it fails, oh well, shit happens. Bring on ambition!!!!!

pritch
28th November 2009, 18:02
Could always link it to a major scooter site to take advantage of global traffic...

Such a forum might make scooter owners feel more welcome than one which doesn't even acknowledge that posts about scooters count.

Then again, those of us who own both scooters and bikes possibly wouldn't visit it much if at all?

Gizzit
28th November 2009, 18:46
I'd support a scooter only site. I really enjoy all kinds of bikes and scooters. I do occasionally get pissed off with the childlike attitude of some bike riders here, and would rather not bother with the negative rubbish.

I do like this site though, and it covers the whole bike world, and there is loads of interesting people and experience here.
I have ridden lots of bikes, and owned quite a few. I own and ride scooters entirely now, and am really enjoying them both. They are a hoot to ride.

I don't care what people choose to ride .... it doesn't matter a jot to me, and I won't criticize what people ride. I don't see the point. You ride what you like ... or can afford.

I think it would be worth trying a NZ run, general scooter only site. Only time will tell if it floats. There are probably enough specialized scoot sites around catering for specific types.
Good on you for suggesting it 'Posthumourus'. I hope it takes off. :niceone: :)

Spearfish
28th November 2009, 21:55
I think it would be worth trying a NZ run, general scooter only site. Only time will tell if it floats. There are probably enough specialized scoot sites around catering for specific types.
Good on you for suggesting it 'Posthumourus'. I hope it takes off. :niceone: :)

An "all in" NZ skoot club run of a different kind headed up your way, half the skoots on Friday morning half sat morning about 10 all up. Burgs, syms, vespers and a couple of bikes. The three day riders were going for a look at Cape Reinga, the two day riders Kaitaia.

Gizzit
29th November 2009, 15:32
An "all in" NZ skoot club run of a different kind headed up your way, half the skoots on Friday morning half sat morning about 10 all up. Burgs, syms, vespers and a couple of bikes. The three day riders were going for a look at Cape Reinga, the two day riders Kaitaia.

Well they should have had good weather for their ride. Was it the "NZ scooter club" ? I haven't heard of one .. ? Or just a bunch or mates on scoots ?
Whatever ... it should have been fun!
I'm off for a late ride as soon as the AB's / French test is finished on Prime. I may see some of them, if they aren't already back in Auckland by now.
Cheers. :scooter:

ICE180
1st December 2009, 05:59
it was
www.magnetos.org

they do these types of runs about everyt 6-8 weeks

MisterD
1st December 2009, 07:50
Shouldn't that be "we" rather than "they"?

Spearfish
1st December 2009, 15:34
Shouldn't that be "we" rather than "they"?

It would have been a "we" if I had a skoot with slightly bigger lungs.

ICE180
1st December 2009, 16:06
not this time scooter has a water leak new pump needed so getting full circle crank and rings done etc

2 weeks in shop had to get the formula out for a week or two

Gizzit
1st December 2009, 18:33
It would have been a "we" if I had a skoot with slightly bigger lungs.

Well .... I hope they had a great time. The weather should have been good for them. I didn't see any scoots on Sunday afternoon when I was out for a ride.

I'll have to check out the Magnetos site sometime.

The Wop
10th December 2009, 14:07
It has changed a bit since the old days and tends to be far less "egalitarian". All scoots are welcome, there are loads of runs planned and generally a good bunch of guys 'n gals. There is also a Christmas Lights run coming up, next week I think. Moped friendly....

Gizzit
10th December 2009, 17:23
It has changed a bit since the old days and tends to be far less "egalitarian". All scoots are welcome, there are loads of runs planned and generally a good bunch of guys 'n gals. There is also a Christmas Lights run coming up, next week I think. Moped friendly....

Sounds good !!

If I lived in Auckland, I would probably join in. :niceone:

Jaik
14th December 2009, 01:26
This is my first post on this site as I've only had my scooter a couple of months and, from my perspective so far, I can't see much difference between jumping around threads, pages or bookmarked sites. I've been visiting UK's Chinese Scooter Club, US's Scootdawg, Oz's Scooter Community, as well as Kiwi Biker and The Scooter Review. I've been wondering if Del Fuego and co were going to start their own forum and would welcome it, as well as any other.

I have to admit I got blown away by some of the posts on the 'moved back to off-topic' thread. There's definitely some ill-feeling around but even within the scooter fraternity it seems. Can it be avoided? Probably not. Maybe the best solution is choice. I know I'm happy bouncing around.

Morcs
14th December 2009, 07:07
For talk about mods and stuff, I used a lot of UK forums (well to be fair i was in the UK when i used them) like SWF and TAG, and then used scootling and magnetos for events and meets etc..

Del Fuego
15th December 2009, 14:01
This is my first post on this site as I've only had my scooter a couple of months and, from my perspective so far, I can't see much difference between jumping around threads, pages or bookmarked sites. I've been visiting UK's Chinese Scooter Club, US's Scootdawg, Oz's Scooter Community, as well as Kiwi Biker and The Scooter Review. I've been wondering if Del Fuego and co were going to start their own forum and would welcome it, as well as any other.

I have to admit I got blown away by some of the posts on the 'moved back to off-topic' thread. There's definitely some ill-feeling around but even within the scooter fraternity it seems. Can it be avoided? Probably not. Maybe the best solution is choice. I know I'm happy bouncing around.


We are, but it is a little way down the road yet.

allycatz
15th December 2009, 15:31
I think what seems kinda unfair is that off road unregistered bikes are considered part of the main forum yet scooters arn't even though we pay for the right to be on the road. It was this attitude that caused one scooter rider who runs a website to leave KB even after rallying together a group of scooter riders for the bikoi

Jaik
15th December 2009, 16:25
I can appreciate scooterists are upset with where they're placed as far as forum categories are concerned (and I agree it does seem unfair) but how is registration relevant in a website called Kiwi Biker? With respect, it's not called Registered Kiwi Biker or On-Road Kiwi Biker. It is "A site for all NZ motorcyclists". Were we upset when 50cc scooters weren't recognised as 'motorcycles' and therefore charged far less for registration? That said, I don't want to take away from anybody's good work and causes but I can't see the rationale for 'walking away'.

pritch
16th December 2009, 21:52
The answer to the question, "Why does Spank put the scooter forum in Off Topic?" is the same as the answer to the question, "Why does a dog lick his balls?"

The answer is, "Because he can."

allycatz
16th December 2009, 22:30
The answer to the question, "Why does Spank put the scooter forum in Off Topic?" is the same as the answer to the question, "Why does a dog lick his balls?"

The answer is, "Because he can."


I thought it was because they enjoy it :whistle:

UberRhys
17th December 2009, 07:18
The answer to the question, "Why does Spank put the scooter forum in Off Topic?" is the same as the answer to the question, "Why does a dog lick his balls?"

The answer is, "Because he can."
I thought it was because they enjoy it :whistle:



They do enjoy it, but they do it because they can. Oh - it also serves a purpose... :girlfight: