Adventure helmets?

[Pikey]

Ordered a Zeus today.:scooter: So will let you know how its goes?:ride:

[young1]

[QUOTE

Oh (to stay on topic) - I just got a Shoei Hornet DS (in white) It was expensive ($799) but I love it.[/QUOTE]

I have one of those, have you ridden with it on in a cross wind yet.... Your neck will not thank you when you do.

[Eddieb]

Anyone know if there is a New Zealand stockist for these?

My Google Fu is strong today.

http://www.northern.co.nz/brands/73-thh_helmets.aspx

Northern Accessories are local distributor of THH helmets. They are one of the larger motorcycle accessory wholesalers in NZ so any decent bike shop should be able to order a helmet through them.

[XF650]

That Fly Trekker / TX26 is the helmet I really wanted, but Northern Accessories told my local dealer they don't import them.

[Mikeonabike]

Don't think these have been mentioned, the LS2 Magnum (http://www.ls2helmets.co.nz/helmet/glossblackred).
Has anyone got one have thoughts on it?

[Eddieb]

Anyone know if there is a New Zealand stockist for these?

More Google Fu

Whites Powersports appear to be the distributors for FLY products in NZ. Get your dealer to try Whites to see if they will import the FLY TREKKER branded version of the helmet. Maybe a different distributor will be more receptive.

http://www.whites.co.nz/products/fly/list.aspx

[Pikey]

Took my new Zeus for a quick blast yesterday:scooter:
Miles better than my MX lid!
Hardly any wind noise and very stable.
Snug fit around the face but got my glasses in OK :yes:
Hard to beat bang for your buck:2thumbsup

[clint640]

Got my Airoh S4 yesterday from FC-Moto, so 19 days delivery. Well packed, with all the docs to keep customs happy. NZ $261 all up. So top marks to FC-Moto :yes: Will report back after a ride test.:sunny:

Cheers
Clint

[Moki]

Any good no?

http://www.atomic-moto.com/servlet/the-256/Zox-Roost-RX-Helmet/Detail

Kinda hard to beat for the price

[Shewolf]

whats the verdict Clint?


Got my Airoh S4 yesterday from FC-Moto, so 19 days delivery. Well packed, with all the docs to keep customs happy. NZ $261 all up. So top marks to FC-Moto :yes: Will report back after a ride test.:sunny:

Cheers
Clint

[clint640]

whats the verdict Clint?

Went for a quick burn the other night & was quite impressed. The 2 things I was a bit worried about were noise & how much wind it would catch, well it is no noisier than my KBC road helmet & might even be quieter (the KBC is not a quiet lid though) It was quite comfortable at 130 km/h & I could look up/down/round&round without the wind trying to tear my head off as is an issue with my MX lid.

In the chilly conditions it was a bit too draughty, as I have seen others do I will be taping over or bunging up the non-closeable front vents for winter, & maybe velcro in a flap under my chin. For summer it will be great.

The visor closure was a bit stiff, pulling down on the tab won't get it quite shut, I needed to push down on the top of the visor to get it to clip down, but this might free up over time. It has a good cracked-just-open position to avoid fogging. The visor sits down into my field of view when open a bit more than a normal road lid but it's not too bad. Peripheral vision is better than the average road lid.

It fits ok with glasses. It was possible, if a little fiddly, to use goggles with the visor up. It came with hardware to blank off the visor mounts if removing the visor, & to blank off the peak mounts if you want to run without that.

The clip on the strap worked well, I like a clip over DD so another plus for me.

Overall it's a nicely finished piece, very good value at $260 I reckon, you can see how the local importer thought they could get away with charging $500+ for em.

Will update again after a longer ride & a test in rain.

Cheers
Clint

[Shewolf]

great review man

[pete376403]

And thanks for the info about fc-moto.de - getting the gear together for a ride tomorrow to find some little scrote has stolen the HJC CL-XS. We had a break-in a while back but never noticed the helmet was among the stuff lifted. It's been quite a while since I last used this helmet so it wasn't immediately obvious that it was gone. Bring back the death penalty!

Have an older road-type lid to use tomorrow but fc-moto prices look very sharp.

Are all the Airoh S4s the same shell with just different graphics? Prices are between $NZ232 - 315 + $32 shipping

[clint640]

A friend asked me to take his gorgeous Ducati 748 :drool: for a run the the other day, being the kind of guy who'll do anything for a mate I went for a fang :banana: & I can report that the Airoh S4 does just fine at er, elevated speeds.

Done a few more miles with it now & still liking it, bunging up the front vents with a couple of earplugs made it much better in cooler conditions. The long front does mean the odd drop of water blows up behind the visor in heavy rain but the visor seems to seal well. One advantage I hadn't thought of is that as the visor folds up under the peak, it is protected from damage when riding with the visor up on our scrubby local tracks.

I notice the importer has dropped the RRP on these quite significantly from $500+ to $318. I guess the fact that the 2nd Google hit on 'Airoh S4 nz' is the threads on here talking about gettiing 'em from FC Moto for $260 - $280 might have come to someone's attention :lol:

Cheers
Clint

[Eddieb]

There's an Engineering/lawn mower shop in Foxton (or was it Levin?) E.J or E.C Engineering, that stocks a lot of bike gear. I stopped there today to check out their selection and unfortunately they were closed.

I did however see through the window a Spada Sting helmet http://www.ashtonsaccessories.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=80&product_id=79

http://www.ashtonsaccessories.co.uk/image/cache/data/helmets/Spada/Spada-Sting-Black-250x250.jpg

I think this is the same helmet as the Fly Trekker we were discussing a few months ago but I'm not 100% sure. I couldn't see a price ticket on it.

[JATZ]

A friend asked me to take his gorgeous Ducati 748 :drool: for a run the the other day, being the kind of guy who'll do anything for a mate I went for a fang :banana: & I can report that the Airoh S4 does just fine at er, elevated speeds.

Done a few more miles with it now & still liking it, bunging up the front vents with a couple of earplugs made it much better in cooler conditions. The long front does mean the odd drop of water blows up behind the visor in heavy rain but the visor seems to seal well. One advantage I hadn't thought of is that as the visor folds up under the peak, it is protected from damage when riding with the visor up on our scrubby local tracks.

I notice the importer has dropped the RRP on these quite significantly from $500+ to $318. I guess the fact that the 2nd Google hit on 'Airoh S4 nz' is the threads on here talking about gettiing 'em from FC Moto for $260 - $280 might have come to someone's attention :lol:

Cheers
Clint

Me and Mrs J wore our S4's all day every day for a couple of weeks and I must say, they were very comfortable, even cruising at highway speeds :yes:
However, I had quite a bit of light mist blowing up under the chin piece during heavy rain and speeds above 100, but that may have bee a symptom of the screen on the Beemer. There is a bit of a wistle from one of the vents, but it goes away when I have the wind jammer on. Also I find the visor doesn't go up as much as the HJC so it gets in the road a little bit.
Would I buy another one ? Definitly
I paid 450 for mine (last years prices) and mrs J got hers 2 weeks later for 320 :mad:

[Shewolf]

Have ordered the Nolan Xlite X551 (https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/sec8178b1d971/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/X-Lite-X-551-Hyper/SubProducts/X-Lite-X-551-Hyper-0003) from FC-Moto after trying one on at Motomail.

Now impatiently waiting....hope it arrives in time to invade the South

[Phreaky Phil]

Have ordered the Nolan Xlite X551 (https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/sec8178b1d971/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Products/X-Lite-X-551-Hyper/SubProducts/X-Lite-X-551-Hyper-0003) from FC-Moto after trying one on at Motomail.

Now impatiently waiting....hope it arrives in time to invade the SouthI took 1 look at those and Both Dawn and I got 1. Really like it.
Dawn never got to wear her Airoh S4 so is anyone wants a brand new small S4 at a good price, give us a yell.

[XF650]

I see these are being imported & I like the idea of integral sun visor. Anyone tried one yet?
http://www.motozone.co.nz/products/dirt-riding-gear/helmets-dirt-2/helmets-dirt/acerbis-active-helmet.aspx#entries

[Morcs]

Acerbis do a adventure helmet now, pretty good on price too.

[george formby]

I see these are being imported & I like the idea of integral sun visor. Anyone tried one yet?
http://www.motozone.co.nz/products/dirt-riding-gear/helmets-dirt-2/helmets-dirt/acerbis-active-helmet.aspx#entries

That looks remarkably like the trekker posted earlier.

Hmm, Nolan, Acerbis, Fly... All with internal sun visor's.

[JATZ]

I see these are being imported & I like the idea of integral sun visor. Anyone tried one yet?
http://www.motozone.co.nz/products/dirt-riding-gear/helmets-dirt-2/helmets-dirt/acerbis-active-helmet.aspx#entries

I saw them in the latest Kiwirider mag, and seeing as how I may need to replace my lid thought I may give one a try :yes:
Although it would have to be pretty good to stop me getting another Airoh

[Pikey]

Be keen for feedback? Thinking of replacing my zeus?

[barrie]

AGV have got an adventure version of there AX moto x helmet out now, composite shell and pretty light. Looks pretty god to me.

[Shewolf]

X-series bluetooth kit
Although I’ve little interest in talking while riding – listening to music is desirable. Also future proofing for GPS when riding in some far flung destination… how could I go past this gadget with it’s low profile mount?
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/P1020246.jpg

The n-series helmets are pre-configured for the bluetooth/comms pack, the polystyrene in the helmet has cutouts and grooves for the battery, wires etc which made installation fairly easy. Even the microphone is embedded into the chin somewhat, no bulgey bits to smack you in the forehead when taking the helmet on and off.

The am/fm tuner in the phone doesn’t work very well through the headset (although normally this works fine with a 3.5mm earplug). Possibly the phone?

The wee iPod shuffle was hopeless for quality as it’s a crapper mono sound unit.

The phone as an mp3 player is excellent – stereo - no problems, the wind noise isn’t very apparent but you can still hear the motor. At it’s loudest setting on the open highway it’s pretty loud, deafening while stationary – I got some odd looks from tin-tops… but nothing unusual there.

Phone calls are picked up from touching the helmet mount and quality is excellent both for me and the caller. If you’re listening to music and get a call, it switches over. Battery life for listening to music - only run it for about 4 hours max.

The bluetooth connection for music was cutting out a lot, but once I turned my wi-fi off it's fixed - it seemed to be polling for connection every so often.

Fit
It’s a snug fit – but compared to the IS-Multi I’m happy with extra padding as this adds up to less noise/more comfort in cooler weather. It is very tight to get on and off though. After using it a few weeks it's more comfy inside but still a right pain getting on and off. If you have hair of any length it pulls it down into your face which can be annoying.
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/P1020237.jpg

Wind noise
This is a satisfying improvement over the HJC, all that extra padding is working well. Not as quiet as my Shoei road helmet (which feels weird now, like riding in a bubble).

Venting / Fog
There’s a pinlock anti-fog insert included that I’ll attach later, the venting is good but too early to tell how effective it is. Pinlock is excellent, no fogging whatsoever.

Visibility
Nice wide peripheral scope and gone is the annoying vent that obscured visibility on the HJC – also the visor goes all the way up.
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/P1020241.jpg

Internal Visor
Reason I got the HJC to start with, so it was a snap when deciding on the X-Lite – side button is easy to use and much easier than the top sliding button on the HJC (which has started to not function at times due to dust accumulating inside)

So far so good! I’ll update after the weekend’s ride. :niceone:
Still really pleased with it, the white peak doesn't block out as much sun as the darker one, but I think spray painting the underside of the peak black should fix that.

[Eddieb]

The am/fm tuner in the phone doesn’t work very well through the headset (although normally this works fine with a 3.5mm earplug). Possibly the phone?

Nice review.

The phones use the headphone wires as an aerial, without that length of wire it probably doesn't have enough of an aerial.

[Pikey]

Well I've bitten the bullet and got an Arai XD3
First ride was very good Fits really well, cheek pads a bit firm but hey that will probably change with use?
Visor pin lock was a bit fiddly to fit until I got the hang of it! But worth the fiddling about as really effective anti-fog (so far)
Bit of 100k plus and some gravel :D Very little drag from the peak. Quite quiet without ear plugs and very quiet with them (might have to try ones that don’t protrude as much?)
Overall very pleased with my investment. Big test will come on weekend trip to The Forgotten Highway??

[Crim]

Well I've bitten the bullet and got an Arai XD3

wheredid you get it, local or the interweb and how much (if ya don't mind me askin') - I probably need to upgrade at some stage

[Pikey]

Got locally from Levin Motorcycles. A few XD3's are available still with the XD4 now here too.
They got it in for me and I got a great deal from my favourite bike shop :msn-wink:
Not sure what other sizes and colours are available?

[Wannabike]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=477947005

[chasio]

I just picked up an X-551 very slightly second-hand (for my very slightly disposable head) from a KB'er who is flogging his motard.

Just to add to Shewolf's excellent post, my comments are:

1 - WHAT'S THAT, I CAN'T HEAR YOU - It is unbelievably noisy on my Freewind. I guess the airflow must hit the helmet just wrongly with the taller screen I use (similar to an older Tiger screen). For me that makes earplugs a must for practically any speed or distance.

2 - The helmet had the Nolan intercom style speakers in it. These have zero bass (possibly less) and in any case, see point 1. That makes them a complete chocolate teapot of an accessory. I can't imagine shelling out for Bluetooth and all that jazz would make me at all happy, so Plugz4lugz with built-in audio are probably the way to go. Certainly my Sony in-ear phones were a biartch to keep well seated when pulling on the helmet, which has a very narrow entry. I may try taping them in with Micropore, but only if I really MUST have audio for some reason. Usually it'll just be earplugs.

3 - The sun-visor sometimes sticks (25% of the time maybe) when trying to flick it up with the slider. There are dis-assembly instructions for it, so I'll have a look and see if a bit of strategically squirted silicon spray might assist. Meanwhile I need to be bloody careful not to ride into any dark tunnels or car-parks with it down, just in case. A quick upwards tap to the bottom edge sends it home OK, but that could be very awkward.

4. Visibility - head-check visibility is worse than on my Shoei XR1000 / Raid 2 helmets as the opening slopes up at the side a touch too steeply. Other than that, the view out is great.

5. Opening the top vents at speed provides an induction roar that is clearly audible above the rest of the racket. But the trade-off is that the ventilation is very good, so probably well suited to tricky riding.

6. I fit a Shoei generally and specifically a Shoei Hornet in small, so doubted a Nolan made helmet would work for me. But the X-551 is a lot less "round-headed" than some Nolans I have tried and, the medium works very well.

7. The light coloured fabric strips on the underside are Scotchlite. I assume this would make my head easier to find if I am ever decapitated at night and someone is looking for it with a torch, provided it comes to rest at the right angle. I honestly cannot think of any other scenario where this would be useful. Answers on a postcard, please...

Cheers - Chasio

[.chris]

part of Cycletreads black friday sale, they have 50% off Arai helmets, there are a couple of the Dual sport models there, a Medium (long way around blue) and a silver/grey S matt.

$550ish at 50% off is a pretty good deal.

[dino3310]

i put the helmet down on my boots so i could free my hands to lock the shed door:facepalm: and then chased it down the drive :eek5: now it really looks like an adv helmet:laugh:

[Night Falcon]

part of Cycletreads black friday sale, they have 50% off Arai helmets, there are a couple of the Dual sport models there, a Medium (long way around blue) and a silver/grey S matt.

$550ish at 50% off is a pretty good deal.

Very tempting...have been looking for a cheap deal on an Arai for a while, but havn't tried one on to see if I have an arai head. I don't like the shoei hornet cos the peak is too short and gets way hot even with the vents open.

[Normlas]

as a KLR rider I naturally migrated towards the budget end of the adventure helmets :2thumbsup and came across the new FFM MX-630, only around $180 and looks pretty good....

http://www.mcr.co.nz/images/imageGen.ashx?image=/media/7515/FFM_MX630__S-Moto_Helmet_Titanium.jpg&width=300

fitted very well although I needed a 2XL whereas for most helmets I am a 61 or XL.

Standing still with the visor down, like I was in the shop, it works fine, out on the road however, the very sharp bend in the visor gives frightening visual distortion, something akin to what I imagine an LSD flashback from the 60's is like :eek5: , turns an ordinary suburban road into a mirrored glass funhouse tunnel as seen through a fish-eye lens.

I had to lift the visor to be able to read road signs at 40-50km/hr..

Then I hit the motorway, and although the peripheral vision is great - one of the main reasons I like adventure helmets, the wind soon took a firm hold of the peak and at around 90km/hr made a fairly good attempt to rip my head from my body........ it got even worse when I hit the North-western motorway back into town, Aucklanders will know where I mean, long exposed bit of motorway with strong side-winds coming in across the harbour, as I had just found a look down angle that allowed my head to remain attached against the wishes of the peak, the sidewind tapped my peak back into the 100km/hr breeze so that I ended up looking like a bobble-head doll as I fought my way down the road (which was now a 100km/hr mirrored tunnel as seen through a fish-eye lens). Less than ideal you might say....

Back into the suburbs and a light drizzle starts, not even enough to have to wipe my visor, yet the small amount of water that fell was able funnel itself, almost magnetically, across my line of sight on the INSIDE of the visor, also less than ideal one might say...

Aside from the fact that more than two breaths whilst you're not moving and you are in a complete foggy white-out, and the fact that the leaky visor sends streams of road air directly across both eyeballs at anything over 30mk/hr, it is a good looking helmet :confused:

Thank fully the good guys at cycletreads were very sympathetic and took the beast back, thanks boys!

Just thought I would share my experience with this new release from FFM, perhaps I got a dud one? but can't say I am impressed, saving for the XD3.......dammit

[Waihou Thumper]

The title says it all.....Budget Adventure Helmet....Good write up and lucky they took it back for you...I was reading the Act this morning as it happens.......It does say that retailers don't have to refund you, they can actually give you credit or a replacement due to a faulty item. I guess this one was faulty, wasn't fit for purpose, that's for sure. :)

There are some good budget helmets out there and if you know your size, think about the Euro conversion rate at present....:) Some good deals from the retailers back a way's in the thread...Germany.

[dino3310]

The Zues helmet is at the low budget end, i payed $179 for mine and its been fab:2thumbsup

[Normlas]

The title says it all.....Budget Adventure Helmet....Good write up and lucky they took it back for you...I was reading the Act this morning as it happens.......It does say that retailers don't have to refund you, they can actually give you credit or a replacement due to a faulty item. I guess this one was faulty, wasn't fit for purpose, that's for sure. :)

I agree - the guys at cycletreads were very good and genuinely concerned, especially since its a new line of helmets for them. I suggested they take it for a ride and they said they would, and if they found it equally scary, they'll remove it from their shop :clap:

Below is my wish list for a perfect helmet (for me), if anyone could make a suggestion I would be most grateful;

- very wide peripheral view angle
- big enough opening to be able to use googles
- closable vents
- quick release chin strap
- as quiet as possible
- fits sunglasses without indenting stripes into the side of your head
- internal drop down sun shade would be nice but not essential
- pin lock or some other such anti-fog system
- less than $500
- not fussed about having a peak on top

Am I asking to much?

[dino3310]

- Am I asking to much?

nope, apart from the pinlock and drop down my Zues does the rest

[NordieBoy]

nope, apart from the pinlock and drop down my Zues does the rest

Goggles ?

[dino3310]

Goggles ?

actually i never tried them on the Zues as the visors been great

[clint640]

Tried to order a new visor for my Airoh S4 last week at the local shop only to be told that Airohs are no longer imported into NZ & they can't get visors. So I just ordered a couple each for Rosie & I from fc-moto, $62.75ea shipped which is probably marginally cheaper than getting them locally but means a wait of a few weeks. So anybody with one of these helmets might want to keep a spare visor in stock.

Cheers
Clint

[NordieBoy]

Tried to order a new visor for my Airoh S4 last week at the local shop only to be told that Airohs are no longer imported into NZ & they can't get visors. So I just ordered a couple each for Rosie & I from fc-moto, $62.75ea shipped which is probably marginally cheaper than getting them locally but means a wait of a few weeks. So anybody with one of these helmets might want to keep a spare visor in stock.

Cheers
Clint

Interesting...
http://www.forbesanddavies.co.nz/products/92-helmets.aspx
List Airoh and FFM as the only brands of helmets they import...

S4 VISOR CLEAR $67.47 rrp

[clint640]

Interesting...
http://www.forbesanddavies.co.nz/products/92-helmets.aspx
List Airoh and FFM as the only brands of helmets they import...


Apparently the importer was having problems getting stock & were getting dicked around by the factory so they pulled the pin. Which could be code for 'everybody was buying them off fc-moto for $200 less than we were trying to gouge out of them in NZ so we're taking our toys & leaving :oi-grr:' Will see how long these visors take to arrive.

Cheers
Clint

[TINA RAY]

i agree - the guys at cycletreads were very good and genuinely concerned, especially since its a new line of helmets for them. I suggested they take it for a ride and they said they would, and if they found it equally scary, they'll remove it from their shop :clap:

Below is my wish list for a perfect helmet (for me), if anyone could make a suggestion i would be most grateful;

- very wide peripheral view angle
- big enough opening to be able to use googles
- closable vents
- quick release chin strap
- as quiet as possible
- fits sunglasses without indenting stripes into the side of your head
- internal drop down sun shade would be nice but not essential
- pin lock or some other such anti-fog system
- less than $500
- not fussed about having a peak on top

am i asking to much?




............. A c e r b i s

[MXNUT]

Check out this website operated by the British Government

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

I will be buying a new Helmet very soon and i dont care if it is a " name brand " or not, but it will have a 5 star safety rating.

Surprised to see some of the more expensive helmets did not perform that well, yet they all meet the required UN ECE REG 22.05 standard.:brick:

So it seem that the old adeage of if you have a $200 head, buy a $200 helmet is not always true.

[Waihou Thumper]

Check out this website operated by the British Governmenthttp://sharp.direct.gov.uk/ I will be buying a new Helmet very soon and i dont care if it is a " name brand " or not, but it will have a 5 star safety rating.Surprised to see some of the more expensive helmets did not perform that well, yet they all meet the required UN ECE REG 22.05 standard.:brick:So it seem that the old adeage of if you have a $200 head, buy a $200 helmet is not always true.If they are going to do a rating, then they better list the full range or helmets available? I couldn't find some?

[NordieBoy]

Check out this website operated by the British Government

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

I will be buying a new Helmet very soon and i dont care if it is a " name brand " or not, but it will have a 5 star safety rating.

Surprised to see some of the more expensive helmets did not perform that well, yet they all meet the required UN ECE REG 22.05 standard.:brick:

So it seem that the old adeage of if you have a $200 head, buy a $200 helmet is not always true.

Yep. Of my 7 helmets, 1 is in the list.

No adventure helmets in the list at all.

I'd get a helmet that complies with AS/NZS 1698:2006.

[Ocean1]

Check out this website operated by the British Government

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

I will be buying a new Helmet very soon and i dont care if it is a " name brand " or not, but it will have a 5 star safety rating.

Surprised to see some of the more expensive helmets did not perform that well, yet they all meet the required UN ECE REG 22.05 standard.:brick:

So it seem that the old adeage of if you have a $200 head, buy a $200 helmet is not always true.

Sharp tests helmets to a defined set of procedures.

So does every other standard applicable to helmets.

Why would you choose a helmet based on the results of just one?

[That looks like fun]

Sharp tests helmets to a defined set of procedures.

So does every other standard applicable to helmets.

Why would you choose a helmet based on the results of just one?

Why would you buy a helmet based on just price :whistle:

[Pikey]

Did I mention I love my Arai??:cool:

[TINA RAY]

Did I mention I love my Arai??:cool:










You pay exorbitant marked up prices for Arai


It's just a fashion statement...a Label


Popular culture reveres them................if it is expensive, it must be good eh..

Marketing hype.

I hear the visors distort one's vision because of the sharp curve....or is that on a 'Shoei'.....well named; another 'showy' label.

Also..is it true that most motorcyclists that are killed, were wearing Arai helmets ?

[gav24]

Bloody hell Tina Ray!

Reading a few of your recent posts you seem to be trying quite hard at being unfriendly! :mad:

Telling a bloke he should get his money back on his bike, criticising someones choice of lid, etc etc...

C'mon, whats really up?
- we're a caring sharing bunch here on KB.

Not sure if you have ever heard of this, but you should only say / post something if it is at least 2 of these three:-
TRUE
NECESSARY
NICE

What you have just posted up is barely one of those...

Right, I'm sure I'll get a smart-arsed reply to this now:clap: Should be fun...
- Just make sure its two of the three please. I tried here with my 'True' and 'Necessary' effort

I like my arai too by the way, but mine has no 'labels' on it - plain colours with no logo's. After trying several of the others it was just the best for me, thats all. I guess that makes me a fashion whore to some though...:brick:

[NordieBoy]

I like my arai too by the way, but mine has no 'labels' on it - plain colours with no logo's. After trying several of the others it was just the best for me, thats all. I guess that makes me a fashion whore to some though...:brick:

So it's an undercover poseur Arai. Only people "in the know" will know it's an Arai.

You sir, are a fashion whore.

[Oscar]

You pay exorbitant marked up prices for Arai


It's just a fashion statement...a Label


Popular culture reveres them................if it is expensive, it must be good eh..

Marketing hype.

I hear the visors distort one's vision because of the sharp curve....or is that on a 'Shoei'.....well named; another 'showy' label.

Also..is it true that most motorcyclists that are killed, were wearing Arai helmets ?

There's an old saying (a Bell Helmet ad, actually): If you've got a $10 head, get a $10 helmet.



In your case, this may be overstating the case by $9.99.




Ps. You last statement is flirting with libel, you might want to remove it.

[Grantman_]

The testing proves the point - http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testhelmetlist?sharp-make=99&sharp-model=&sharp-type=All&sharp-rating=1&discontinued=1

Arai helmets have been lackluster. Only 2 of 8 helmets get a 4+ star rating. My much cheaper LS2 gets a 4 star rating.

[Oscar]

The testing proves the point - http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testhelmetlist?sharp-make=99&sharp-model=&sharp-type=All&sharp-rating=1&discontinued=1

Arai helmets have been lackluster. Only 2 of 8 helmets get a 4+ star rating. My much cheaper LS2 gets a 4 star rating.

Neither the Arai or Shoei Adv Helmet is tested.
It also appears that older helmets get the "luckluster" ratings - Shoei XR1000 (3 Star) v. XR1100 (5 Star) for example. Newer helmets are safer - no surprise there.

[NordieBoy]

More people may well be killed wearing Arai.
In the same was as more cops crash Holdens than any other brand.

[Grantman_]

Neither the Arai or Shoei Adv Helmet is tested.
It also appears that older helmets get the "luckluster" ratings - Shoei XR1000 (3 Star) v. XR1100 (5 Star) for example. Newer helmets are safer - no surprise there.

A similar vintage of helmets has been tested across manufacturers. Arai compared poorly. No doubt lessens have been learnt and they are scrambling to catch up. Newer should be better.

[NordieBoy]

Zeus rates so highly, they're off the charts.

[Ocean1]

No doubt lessens have been learnt .

Only very small ones though.

[MXNUT]

If they are going to do a rating, then they better list the full range or helmets available? I couldn't find some?

It is up to the Helmet Manufacturer to supply the helmets for testing as this is a Government run non profit organization.
It is in the helmet makers best interest to do this if they think that their product is up to the task !!


Yep. Of my 7 helmets, 1 is in the list.

No adventure helmets in the list at all.

I'd get a helmet that complies with AS/NZS 1698:2006.

Yep it looks like the site is geared towards road riders, but then that group of riders would have the biggest percentage of serious accidents.
The do have several Flip front helmets on the site.



Sharp tests helmets to a defined set of procedures.

So does every other standard applicable to helmets.

Why would you choose a helmet based on the results of just one?

Sharp Tests to the same set of procudures as the european standard UN ECE REG 22.05
Then also tests at faster and slower impact speeds to give a broader test range.

I am not saying that this is the ultimate test out there, just pointing out that the mimimum standard that helmet manufacturers have to meet is not a particularly srtingent standard.

When it comes to something protecting your head, i would think the more protection offered the better.

[TINA RAY]

There's an old saying (a Bell Helmet ad, actually): If you've got a $10 head, get a $10 helmet.



In your case, this may be overstating the case by $9.99.




Ps. You last statement is flirting with libel, you might want to remove it.



The mark-up price is not a sign of quality. Only the naive or the pretentious buy Arai

Disprove my last 'question'

[TINA RAY]

Bloody hell Tina Ray!

Reading a few of your recent posts you seem to be trying quite hard at being unfriendly! :mad:

Telling a bloke he should get his money back on his bike, criticising someones choice of lid, etc etc...

C'mon, whats really up?
- we're a caring sharing bunch here on KB.

Not sure if you have ever heard of this, but you should only say / post something if it is at least 2 of these three:-
TRUE
NECESSARY
NICE

What you have just posted up is barely one of those...





Right, I'm sure I'll get a smart-arsed reply to this now:clap: Should be fun...
- Just make sure its two of the three please. I tried here with my 'True' and 'Necessary' effort

I like my arai too by the way, but mine has no 'labels' on it - plain colours with no logo's. After trying several of the others it was just the best for me, thats all. I guess that makes me a fashion whore to some though...:brick:







LOL...

I give good advice to the naive I'm afraid.



I sell Arai Labels to make your helmets safer. For $2 your can save $1500

How much were they asking for your lid?

[TINA RAY]

More people may well be killed wearing Arai.
In the same was as more cops crash Holdens than any other brand.



LOl... I don't get it.......:clap:


A helmet is only a part factor is savings one's life in an accident.

[TINA RAY]

Zeus rates so highly, they're off the charts.



I agree. I have crashed mine multiple times and it's still holding together !


(you must be 'one' of the '3' !)

[TINA RAY]

The testing proves the point - http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testhelmetlist?sharp-make=99&sharp-model=&sharp-type=All&sharp-rating=1&discontinued=1

Arai helmets have been lackluster. Only 2 of 8 helmets get a 4+ star rating. My much cheaper LS2 gets a 4 star rating.



Thank you for the research.

It just supports my unfounded bigotry.

[Oscar]

The mark-up price is not a sign of quality. Only the naive or the pretentious buy Arai

Disprove my last 'question'

Actually the difference is probably the full $10…
My disapproval is niether here nor there - your last question was more of a statement and probably should be removed.

As for the rest, it's your head, and judging by the tenor of your postings here you may have failed to protect it recently.

[TINA RAY]

Actually the difference is probably the full $10…
My disapproval is niether here nor there - your last question was more of a statement and probably should be removed.

As for the rest, it's your head, and judging by the tenor of your postings here you may have failed to protect it recently.


I challenged you to 'disprove' NOT 'disapprove'....are you blind or illiterate or both ????

Yes you are right....it's called a 'rhetorical' question

But I don't expect someone who cannot spell 'neither' to know that :baby:

[Oscar]

I challenged you to 'disprove' NOT 'disapprove'....are you blind or illiterate or both ????

Yes you are right....it's called a 'rhetorical' question

But I don't expect someone who cannot spell 'neither' to know that :baby:

My, my - what an unpleasant little troll you are.

Feel free to leave your libellous statement about Arai Helmets there, I don’t really care (I wear a Shoei).
I tell you what, if you want someone to disprove your statement, send it here:dold@dold.co.nz
Please keep us posted on the reply.

[TINA RAY]

Showy.....oh they are really good......but not as good as an Arai.....you see Arais cost more, so they are better...get one.


You obviously think your head is only worth $1000

An Arai head is worth $2000.....according to your tired old marketing cliche

Get Showy to raise their prices. It would make it a much safer brand !




If you would like me to explain any big words or concepts that are a bit difficult for you...please ask

[pete-blen]

LOL...

I give good advice to the naive I'm afraid.



[/QUOTE If you would like me to explain any big words or concepts that are a bit difficult for you...please ask [/QUOTE]



:corn: ......This is going to get good....

[TINA RAY]

:corn: ......This is going to get good....





.....I'm patiently waiting..........:corn:

[Night Falcon]

Showy.....oh they are really good......but not as good as an Arai.....you see Arais cost more, so they are better...get one.


You obviously think your head is only worth $1000

An Arai head is worth $2000.....according to your tired old marketing cliche

Get Showy to raise their prices. It would make it a much safer brand !


if you would like me to explain any big words or concepts that are a bit difficult for you...please ask

I own an Arai a Shoei an FMF and an HJC....that means my head is worth heaps:banana:, but it still can't spell and occasionally forgets things like "wher'd I leave my helmet?? <_<

[MXNUT]

.....I'm patiently waiting..........:corn:

Take this over to the pointless dribble section :baby: of KB, where it belongs.


And dont bother answering this post, as i am not really that interested.:brick:


Now back on topic .....................

[dino3310]

anyone tell me what the MX helmet and google set up is like on ADV rides.
like vision, rain, wind etc

[tri boy]

anyone tell me what the MX helmet and google set up is like on ADV rides.


You can get MX helmets with google wired in.
I fucken want one.

[Night Falcon]

anyone tell me what the MX helmet and google set up is like on ADV rides.
like vision, rain, wind etc

They are good when the weather is hot, not so good for highway as periferal vison is less than adv helmet. They also fog up in the cold. With a visor you can lift the lid to let some air in. They are in their element for trail riding in summer though!!

[dino3310]

i was thinking of this set up for the coming summer, hopefully get into some dirt

[gav24]

Make sure you wear earplugs and be prepared for a stiff neck after a few road kms if you go with the MX lid set up.
Great for short road bits to link up dirt stuff though.

A bit off anti fog sprayed in the goggles is worth it for the slow and sweaty trails though. Or if your a 'fashionista' Oakley make a double-glazed and vented lens which is bloody brilliant... despite the label, etc etc:girlfight:

happy trails:banana:

[dino3310]

:laugh: na not me mate im a trade me tight arse, as long as its got some tearoff tabs and cheap im in

[Pikey]

You can wear goggles with an Arai!

[Box'a'bits]

And a Shoei.

[TINA RAY]

anyone tell me what the MX helmet and google set up is like on ADV rides.
like vision, rain, wind etc



Freezing. Makes a journey seem 4 times longer.

Rain hurts unbelievably ! Uncomfy at 100kmh

Ok for summer short rides I guess.

FANTASTIC for motocross tho

[chainsawbike]

anyone tell me what the MX helmet and google set up is like on ADV rides.
like vision, rain, wind etc

rain, hail etc is painful, snow is um... cold + painful but the chilling effect somewhat dulls the stinging pain :)
other than that meh...

i have a road helmet and a mx helmet/goggle setup, i almost always wear the mx helmet

[NordieBoy]

rain, hail etc is painful, snow is um... cold + painful but the chilling effect somewhat dulls the stinging pain :)
other than that meh...

i have a road helmet and a mx helmet/goggle setup, i almost always wear the mx helmet

Woose...

Ride in the sleet and snow with an open face helmet :D

[dino3310]

i ride an XR so im used to discomfort

[JATZ]

I've got an MX helmet and goggles you can have matey..... Pickup only though :D
I tried em once but hated the loss of peri, par,pera....the fact I couldn't see out the side :crazy:

[dino3310]

I've got an MX helmet and goggles you can have matey..... Pickup only though :D
I tried em once but hated the loss of peri, par,pera....the fact I couldn't see out the side :crazy:

i could just image it....
Honey im just shooting down the road to pick up a helmet :D

[TINA RAY]

...
...

268551 268547



Brand new to your door for LESS MONEY than an arai visor !!!

I can sell you one of these for $1999.00 if you really value your head !

I also have arai stickers for added safety.

Many other colours available.

[NordieBoy]

Brand new to your door for LESS MONEY than an arai visor !!!

I can sell you one of these for $1999.00 if you really value your head !

I also have arai stickers for added safety.

Many other colours available.

What's the one on the right?

[Oscar]

What's the one on the right?

Special XXXXXL size for Tina....

[TINA RAY]

What's the one on the right?





The Black one is 'TANKED RACING' brand.

[gav24]

The problem with all the adv lids that were basically MX shells with a visor and modified peak added were that when I tried them the distortion was appalling around the nose area of the chin bar.

HJC, Wulf, FFM, all terrible, and would give anyone a headache I reckon after looking through them for any amount of time. You also get a weird reflection thing going on on the inside of the visor, of the side of the road flashing past. Those last 2 Chinese things look much the same - especially the black one, that visor looks so pointed it almost has a crease!

The Zeus, Arai and remember those old Lazer and Nolan lids from the 80s/90's seem to have the right idea by using a different shell shape without the pointy visor of the mx type lids.

I didnt try the shoei, but the zeus wasnt to comfy for me, the HJC and FFM's visors gave me a headache, the old Nolans and Lazers are not around anymore - and made of plastic anyway I think, so I ended up with an Arai - and for that I'm eternally sorry and should be beaten with a stick it seems... However the spares are available and cheap so I didnt need to throw it away when a visor retaining clip and cover got broken in a spill. You can also customise the fit with different size cheek pads from the importers. Try getting a few spares for a chinese bike let alone a helmet...

Just my opinion, like...

Here we go again;).......

[Waihou Thumper]

I can sell you one of these for $1999.00 if you really value your head !


Tad expensive don't cha think? :niceone:

[NordieBoy]

Even the Zeus has different sized cheek pads from the importer.

The Zeus is a road helmet with a peak.
For some people, that's all they want.

[gav24]

Even the Zeus has different sized cheek pads from the importer.

The Zeus is a road helmet with a peak.
For some people, that's all they want.

Exactly, I did, but found the sizing a bit odd; small too small, medium too big, like they were 1/2 a size out compared to most other brands I've had, (HJC, 661, Shoei, Arai, Bell and a cool old Malherbe rep MDS open face - wish I still had that one...:rolleyes:)

Zeus does have a great visor though - agreed!

[Oscar]

Exactly, I did, but found the sizing a bit odd; small too small, medium too big, like they were 1/2 a size out compared to most other brands I've had, (HJC, 661, Shoei, Arai, Bell and a cool old Malherbe rep MDS open face - wish I still had that one...:rolleyes:)

Zeus does have a great visor though - agreed!

Helmet sizing is a mystery.
In 2008 I found myself in Andorra with the opportunity to go riding.
All I needed was a helmet, but luckily Andorra has lots of accessory shops (big ones!).
Problem was, nothing fitted - the shop assistants muttered something about "..cap mes gran.." and hunted through their stock.
The weird thing was that I don't even have that large a head (size 58-60/XL).
The even weirder thing was that if I tried on the same helmets I had at home, in the same sizes, they were too small...

[TINA RAY]

I have 2 Zeus Helmets.
No probs.
They are a small fit,

I took a Medium MX helmet.
KBC Road helmet.....Large
Zues ADV........XL


As we know, most helmets have the same shell size for a given style.
The difference in sizing is usually due to the sponge padding thickness.


My 1st Zues was 'Large' but was way too tight especially with a balaclava.

I took out the pads, slit them open and trimmed approx 10mm in thickness from the sponge.

Also took a bit extra off to create a 'sunglasses groove'. (I bought my next Zues in XL.)


I have made Loose helmets fit tighter by adding thin panels of sponge. This is available from places like Spotlight.


As Kiwis, we should be clever enough and brave enough to customise our stuff, without having to resort to BUYING everything.

[NordieBoy]

Exactly, I did, but found the sizing a bit odd; small too small, medium too big, like they were 1/2 a size out compared to most other brands I've had, (HJC, 661, Shoei, Arai, Bell and a cool old Malherbe rep MDS open face - wish I still had that one...:rolleyes:)

My XL Zeus cheek pads are far too thick. I removed about half the foam from them and it's bearable now.
Unfortunately they don't do thinner pads than XL...

[Night Falcon]

My XL Zeus cheek pads are far too thick. I removed about half the foam from them and it's bearable now.
Unfortunately they don't do thinner pads than XL...

some folks just cant handle too much cheek :lol:

[TINA RAY]

some folks just cant handle too much cheek :lol:





Wanna cm South in January ?

Bring DR Girl....I need another female....

[Night Falcon]

His cheeks are mine !



Wanna cm South in January ?

Bring DR Girl....I need another female....

Already booked for January.....hoping to do far north :woohoo:, never bin up that way. DB1k is tempting though, never done that either :shifty:

[clint640]

Tried to order a new visor for my Airoh S4 last week at the local shop only to be told that Airohs are no longer imported into NZ & they can't get visors. So I just ordered a couple each for Rosie & I from fc-moto, $62.75ea shipped which is probably marginally cheaper than getting them locally but means a wait of a few weeks. So anybody with one of these helmets might want to keep a spare visor in stock.

Cheers
Clint

Got the visors today, no dramas, just under 3 weeks to arrive. Top marks fc-moto.:yes:

Cheers
Clint

[Ocean1]

Got the visors today, no dramas, just under 3 weeks to arrive. Top marks fc-moto.:yes:

Cheers
Clint

Ah, good man, still my favoritest lid, must order one.

Cheers.