What is the great kiwi Waitangi passtime?

[mashman]

So, relatively new over here, what do you guys usually do on Waitangi day?

[Taz]

Depends whether I'm working or not. But if i'm off I do whatever I like :)

[Gubb]

Shout at Honkies.

[Pussy]

I might go and flick a browneye at the Harawiras this year....

[Trudes]

Shop, eat pig and drink beer.

[martybabe]

Been here 2 years now and I still don't quite get it, some celebrate it and some protest against the deals that were struck on the first 'W' day. Some of the Maoris have a great big party and others wanna tear down the big house :blink:

I think that about covers the history of the event in detail :laugh: As a general observation by a newcomer like yourself, apart from a bit of flag waving, fist waving ect, every one else seems to have a BBQ and some cold!!!Beer, on the beach or on the section.

I think there is some rumor that Bikeoi 2010 may be happening this time though, obviously with a BBQ and some cold Beer. or you could stay at home and have a BBQ and.........

[mashman]

I might go and flick a browneye at the Harawiras this year....

Cute mate... hang on :moon::spanking::sick:

[crazyhorse]

sleeping in, jumping on the bike and just doing it.... :yes:

[StoneY]

Doubt Waitangi Day is a good Bikeoi date

But I am definitley thinking a good sized group of bikers is likely to be at the event......

[Karl08]

1. Listen to and read all about the yearly farce up in Waitangi (normally instigated by Hone's mum).

2. Rant and rave to wife about number 1

3. Get told to relax by wife

4. Kick back with wife and wee monkeys

5. Scan the news for a reference to the aforementioned brown eye at Hone.

[Karl08]

...or take the Mighty GN to Waitangi.

[Jantar]

Go to the Vincent Rally.

[Headbanger]

I write letters about White Motherfuckers and their puritanical bullshit.

[mashman]

Doubt Waitangi Day is a good Bikeoi date

and now we have a reason not to do Waitangi day :shifty:

[Dean]

Celebrate the union between Maori and Europeans (Kiwi) so cook up a hangi for everyone yeah even the albino's. Comes to remind me out of all the multicultural countires experienceing racisim ie blacks-whites, mexicans-blacks etc boers and southafricans I think new zealand had it the easiest. We never really had much bad racisim all Maori have breeded with europeans and got along at some point usually scottish, irish, UK blood explaining why there is no Full Maori in nz. (Im only like a quarter cast Maori but I act like one)

[Tank]

It a devisive holiday that gives allthe maori radicals a soapbox to waaaaaaaaa.

The treaty is a fuck up made worse by PC bullshit.

They should can the holiday - its nothing to celebrate. Replace it with New Zealand day.

[Tank]

Celebrate the union between Maori and Europeans (Kiwi) so cook up a hangi for everyone yeah even the albino's.

Since when has congenital disorders been about race?

[firefighter]

It a devisive holiday that gives allthe maori radicals a soapbox to waaaaaaaaa.

The treaty is a fuck up made worse by PC bullshit.

They should can the holiday - its nothing to celebrate. Replace it with New Zealand day.

+1. Or at least re-name it for what it really is...."National Protest Day"

It's a shame we waste our national day, when I was first in Auz for Australia Day I could not believe it was just people out enjoying their day, and had nothing to do with racial hatred, or complaining. It is just a day for Aussies to get out and enjoy their country.

[Dean]

Since when has congenital disorders been about race?
They just creep me out.

It a devisive holiday that gives allthe maori radicals a soapbox to waaaaaaaaa.

The treaty is a fuck up made worse by PC bullshit.

They should can the holiday - its nothing to celebrate. Replace it with New Zealand day.
I know many non Maori who respect waitangi day, acknowledge its meaning. Maori culture and language is a big part of New Zealand history so just harden up and hush the mouth.

[Taz]

I've been to Waitangi. I reckon it'd be a neat place for a motorsport venue. Maybe we can claim it some how.

[Mully]

Meh, it's a day off work.

I do wish it was later in the year though. The holiday happens too close to other holidays.

Maybe it could be around June. That would work better for me.

[slofox]

Go for a ride.

Then come home and get drunk.

Same as any other day...

[Tank]

They just creep me out.

oh - so it was a random observation made out of ignorance


I know many non Maori who respect waitangi day, acknowledge its meaning. Maori culture and language is a big part of New Zealand history so just harden up and hush the mouth.

The day itself dosnt deserve respect - its nothing - just another day. Sadly the worst of Maoridom come out on it each year and act like savages and idiots. Showing their ass to the Queen, burning the NZ flag etc.

Nothing about me having to harden up - I sit there shaking my head with disbelieve that other maori allows fuckwits like that get on TV - they do more hard to maori in NZ than anyone else.

I pitty them - perhaps Maori hardened up themselves - then they could show all their good like (as you mention) their culture and language - it is after all beautiful and should be celebrated.

Sadly tho' that wont happen when the guys grabbing the headlines are acting like racist retards.

[Dean]

The day itself dosnt deserve respect - its nothing - just another day. Sadly the worst of Maoridom come out on it each year and act like savages and idiots. Showing their ass to the Queen, burning the NZ flag etc.

Nothing about me having to harden up - I sit there shaking my head with disbelieve that other maori allows fuckwits like that get on TV - they do more hard to maori in NZ than anyone else.

I pitty them - perhaps Maori hardened up themselves - then they could show all their good like (as you mention) their culture and language - it is after all beautiful and should be celebrated.

Sadly tho' that wont happen when the guys grabbing the headlines are acting like racist retards.

There will always be brown eye patriotic crazy hoons no matter what race and it is sad, but if you really REALLY delve into their pent up anger you might understand them a little more. As you probably know Maori founded New Zealand, yes the morie ories were once the landlords but didnt properly colonise, were primitive, didnt make much of an impact. So wouldnt you say its unfair that the english come over and say we are going to have your land if you refuse we will kill you all. Think of your own house and property, if someone did this unjustice to you, Maori were fighting the unjustice, England were fighting for greed.

[scissorhands]

I join cannabis activists and smoke weed in public usually at a big Bob Marley gig in the city.

'We are free, to do as you tell us. We are free....'

[Shorty_925]

If i was back in london id be doing the pub crawl....though not the same since you cant drink on the tubes....yes you could have a cheeky drink on the tube, but last year there were plenty of people doing that and getting nicked at the next stop. Now back home, look for somewhere to go riding!

[wbks]

So wouldnt you say its unfair that the english come over and say we are going to have your land if you refuse we will kill you all.
Why can't you "maori" see the parralell with what "your people" did to the ones who were here before you? White motherfuckas did the same thing as you, they were just smart enough to bring firearms to the table

[Tank]

As you probably know Maori founded New Zealand, yes the morie ories were once the landlords [before the Maori] but didnt properly colonise, were primitive, didnt make much of an impact.

oh the irony is harlarious ! "were primitive, didnt make much of an impact" - just like a lot of Maori today.

[Dean]

Why can't you "maori" see the parralell with what "your people" did to the ones who were here before you? White motherfuckas did the same thing as you, they were just smart enough to bring firearms to the table

The previous landlords couldnt survive for themselves, they say there was only a few (they recovered few bones of morie orie there is still little known about them). Maori had politics back then too, the difference is the MP's would actually fight not sit around in offices all day. The leaders tried to stop the english coming and ravaging the land.

[george formby]

Doubt Waitangi Day is a good Bikeoi date

But I am definitley thinking a good sized group of bikers is likely to be at the event......

Cool, pop in & say hello. Last year was great, music, merriment & madness briefly blighted by a handful of shouty people who crave attention. Their was some great Kai at the Marae too.

[wbks]

The previous landlords couldnt survive for themselves, they say there was only a few (they recovered few bones of morie orie there is still little known about them). Maori had politics back then too, the difference is the MP's would actually fight not sit around in offices all day. The leaders tried to stop the english coming and ravaging the land.And your point is? Maori came here and killed the people who were here and took their land. British came here and killed the people who were here and took their land (less cannibalism, and slightly more democracy, though). The difference is? Ravaging land? Like burning out entire sections of forest to catch a bird, or forcing tens of others of animal species' into extinction? Fucking ravaging white fucks, they didn't do any of it! Useless, aye...

[Dean]

oh the irony is harlarious ! "were primitive, didnt make much of an impact" - just like a lot of Maori today.

There are some succesfull Maori nowdays, Ive talked to some really nice Maori fellas working very hard at their jobs that dont get any recognition for their hardwork. Its the influence of the american gang culture that reels the Maori youth in today.

[Tank]

The previous landlords couldnt survive for themselves, they say there was only a few (they recovered few bones of morie orie there is still little known about them).

So its OK to overtake a country by killing and eating the local people - just because there wasnt many of them?

On that logic you would be OK with India taking us over - after all there are only a few of us.

BTW - there is no evidence that they couldnt survive for themselves - the fact is they were (proven by the fact that they were in the country and alive)



Maori had politics back then too, the difference is the MP's would actually fight not sit around in offices all day. The leaders tried to stop the english coming and ravaging the land.

You know that you didnt actually have MP's back then right - that was a give from the white motherfuckers. And as for ravaging the land - seen any Moas latley (fuck you know nothing do you)


the MP's would actually fight

Did they take their shirts off first?

[Dean]

And your point is? Maori came here and killed the people who were here and took their land. British came here and killed the people who were here and took their land (less cannibalism, and slightly more democracy, though). The difference is? Ravaging land? Like burning out entire sections of forest to catch a bird, or forcing tens of others of animal species' into extinction? Fucking ravaging white fucks, they didn't do any of it! Useless, aye...

Morie orie's werent fit to take care of the land, there were very few and were struggling for food, they had no proper political system. Maori WERE capable of owning New Zealand they made resources and established a heirachy an political system, MP's amongst every tribe etc.

[Tank]

There are some succesfull Maori nowdays, Ive talked to some really nice Maori fellas working very hard at their jobs that dont get any recognition for their hardwork. Its the influence of the american gang culture that reels the Maori youth in today.

Indeed there are - and I have worked with and for a lot of them. Sadly stats show us there are a lot more that are wasters - they adopt the american gang culture simply because (like the american gangs) they are losers.

Lack of recoginitation for ones hard work is a sad fact for most people these days - across all races.

[Tank]

Morie orie's werent fit to take care of the land,

What a ignorant comment.


there were very few and were struggling for food,

thank fuck you have KFC huh?

[Dean]

You know that you didnt actually have MP's back then right - that was a give from the white motherfuckers. And as for ravaging the land - seen any Moas latley (fuck you know nothing do you)


Their was cheifs that are likened to MP's, Ngapuhi the main tribe was like the beehive nowdays. The cheifs would meet other tribes and share resources and discuss matters sometimes fight eachother.

[george formby]

There will always be brown eye patriotic crazy hoons no matter what race and it is sad, but if you really REALLY delve into their pent up anger you might understand them a little more. As you probably know Maori founded New Zealand, yes the morie ories were once the landlords but didnt properly colonise, were primitive, didnt make much of an impact. So wouldnt you say its unfair that the english come over and say we are going to have your land if you refuse we will kill you all. Think of your own house and property, if someone did this unjustice to you, Maori were fighting the unjustice, England were fighting for greed.

Human history in a nutshell, you could change Maori too Scot, Russian, Amerindian, Ainu, Inuit, I'm sure you get the picture. This country is doing pretty well. Ask the Tasmanian aboriginals, at a seance.
I guess claiming seabeds & airwaves is not really based on greed then?
Personally, most people I know of any creed find happiness in the wonderful culture we have in this wonderful country.

[Dean]

Indeed there are - and I have worked with and for a lot of them. Sadly stats show us there are a lot more that are wasters - they adopt the american gang culture simply because (like the american gangs) they are losers.
.
No, Ive gone through the phase of it too, what happens is you get brought up usually in a poor neighbourhood or abusive family blah blah then want to become rich and make it. People say you wont make it in life because your Maori so you feel no self worth, so you do crime to get power like the king pins get in America or kill the ones who disrespected you.

[EgliHonda]

back ON topic,

Don't really have much choice on Waitangi day, as it is the wife's birthday, so pretty much do what I'm told...

On Australia day however, used to work with a bunch of Okkers and we made a special bbq and beers day to help them celebrate. Introduced them to Paua patties AND speights and laughed like fuck as they got stuck in, and then suffered the inevitable 'green bowled toilet' the next coupla days...

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[wbks]

Morie orie's werent fit to take care of the land, there were very few and were struggling for food, they had no proper political system. Maori WERE capable of owning New Zealand they made resources and established a heirachy an political system, MP's amongst every tribe etc.

So we can call it cool if I say my great great great pops knew how to tend to the land better than your great great great pops he was shooting at?

[mashman]

Doubt Waitangi Day is a good Bikeoi date

I'm starting to think it may be a perfect day ..... :laugh:

[scissorhands]

Sometimes I wish i was black/brown

[Dean]

So we can call it cool if I say my great great great pops knew how to tend to the land better than your great great great pops he was shooting at?

Didnt the english bring gorse into our country? Diseases off the boats? :mellow:

[george formby]

Sometimes I wish i was black/brown

I wish I had rhythm, a good singing voice & a bigger k**b. That would be worth celebrating.:laugh:

[wbks]

Didnt the english bring gorse into our country? Diseases off the boats? :mellow:Yea, but canibalism, rape, ravaging of the land, continuous war, "close family ties" and what not were already here waiting for them...

[Dean]

Sometimes I wish i was black/brown

No way id hate to be black there skin colour is ewwww you could put them in a room but youd need the lights on cant see the buggers. You should want to join brown power we have the best of both worlds, tan skin but can go white if we stay in a cold country for a year or so, or go a bit darker in places like puerto rico. Brown mixed with a light cream.

[mashman]

No way id hate to be black there skin colour is ewwww you could put them in a room but youd need the lights on cant see the buggers. You should want to join brown power we have the best of both worlds, tan skin but can go white if we stay in a cold country for a year or so, or go a bit darker in places like puerto rico. Brown mixed with a light cream.

and yet all humans bleed red...

[phred]

Shop, eat pig and drink beer.

Which particular member of the constabulary?

[Hiflyer]

All I do is listen to people bitch and moan about how people I never met and are not related to me "stole" THEIR land and how I have to pay for it by not being able to enjoy some of my favourite beaches.


It's quite joyous.

[Dean]

All I do is listen to people bitch and moan about how people I never met and are not related to me "stole" THEIR land and how I have to pay for it by not being able to enjoy some of my favourite beaches.


It's quite joyous.

Yeah I understand you want to see your favourite beaches on your 7grand hyosung and all of those as such.

While in places theres families living in garages, mothers crying because she cant feed her sons and kids, sitting in the corner of the kitchen with a butcher knife because her husband came home. Kids hiding in the rooms trying to pretend to be asleep. Son leaves to join a gang because they offer money and a lifestyle, father dies with his gun and no tombstone, mother died alone with kids dead or in jail. Looking at people on rich bikes ride past complainng about not being able to see their favourite beaches. Poor you.

Alot of Maori have next to NOTHING, they may have no money but one thing you cant take away is their heritage, history, belonging to the land. So when they claim beaches you guys say they are greedy pigs so they get nothing, when in reality there are Maori having it really hard in life who just want a part of their heritage. The land their forefathers died on.

[wbks]

Yeah I understand you want to see your favourite beaches on your 7grand hyosung and all of those as such.

While in places theres families living in garages, mothers crying because she cant feed her sons and kids, sitting in the corner of the kitchen with a butcher knife because her husband came home. Kids hiding in the rooms trying to pretend to be asleep. Son leaves to join a gang because they offer money and a lifestyle, father dies with his gun and no tombstone, mother died alone with kids dead or in jail. Looking at people on rich bikes ride past complainng about not being able to see their favourite beaches. Poor you.lol wtf does this have to do with what he said? I'm pretty sure there were things like that going on last time you were complaining on here

[Dean]

lol wtf does this have to do with what he said? I'm pretty sure there were things like that going on last time you were complaining on here

Check it again I edited it.

[mashman]

Ok, so, some celebrate with joy and others reflect on the past and make it relevant to the present!

[Mully]

Dean - Stop it!!

Christ, you talk some shit.

[Hiflyer]

Alot of Maori have next to NOTHING, they may have no money but one thing you cant take away is their heritage, history, belonging to the land. So when they claim beaches you guys say they are greedy pigs so they get nothing, when in reality there are Maori having it really hard in life who just want a part of their heritage. The land their forefathers died on.


How is that my fault? not our fault they traded an acre of land for 150 bags of potatoes an 2 pigs. (thats not jokes either, had to write a paper on this)

I've met you in person and your a nice guy but dude, on the forum you needa stop this...


Dean - Stop it!!

Christ, you talk some shit.

+1
:soon:

[wbks]

I think this is an intervention

[Dean]

Dean - Stop it!!

Christ, you talk some shit.

I dont talk shit tho, I voice my opinion, there always people that go against me and argue. Probably because no one takes me seriously or just tries to bait me.

[mashman]

I dont talk shit tho, I voice my opinion, there always people that go against me and argue. Probably because no one takes me seriously or just tries to bait me.

No Dean, you're giving us a history lesson that not many people seem to want, If you wanna thrash this out, can ya do it in a PM, or create your own thread...

Just a request which you can ignore of course...

[Hiflyer]

I dont talk shit tho, I voice my opinion, there always people that go against me and argue. Probably because no one takes me seriously or just tries to bait me.

You sound like Paula Bennett dude

[Laxi]

They should can the holiday - its nothing to celebrate. Replace it with New Zealand day.
+1 for that

[Laxi]

another riveting post by dean there! chur bro!

[Dean]

You sound like Paula Bennett dude

Paula bennet? I aint like that bitch. she crazy.
Alright then whats the most unviewed forum on kiwibiker ill make threads and posts in it in the future.

[Tank]

Yeah I understand you want to see your favourite beaches on your 7grand hyosung and all of those as such.

While in places theres families living in garages, mothers crying because she cant feed her sons and kids, sitting in the corner of the kitchen with a butcher knife because her husband came home. Kids hiding in the rooms trying to pretend to be asleep. Son leaves to join a gang because they offer money and a lifestyle, father dies with his gun and no tombstone, mother died alone with kids dead or in jail. Looking at people on rich bikes ride past complainng about not being able to see their favourite beaches. Poor you.

Alot of Maori have next to NOTHING, they may have no money but one thing you cant take away is their heritage, history, belonging to the land. So when they claim beaches you guys say they are greedy pigs so they get nothing, when in reality there are Maori having it really hard in life who just want a part of their heritage. The land their forefathers died on.

The problems you mention arnt just related to Maori - there are whities, indians and chineese in the same situation - sometimes a lot worse.

The beaches they are claiming has fuck all do do with heritage - its all to do with greed. I bet most of them have no idea where their forefathers died. Of course they only care about their Maori forefathers - because thats what allows them to try and claim shit - they quite happily forget their white forefathers who knocked up a Maori chick some generations back. Not many full blodded maori is there.

oh and if you think a 7 grand hobag makes someone rich - then you must be poor as fuck.

it just means that they have a job.

[Tank]

whats the most unviewed forum on kiwibiker ill make threads and posts in it in the future.

PD - but most your threads end up there anyways.

[Maha]

I pay homage to the Maori Sex God...'Tangi-u-up'....

[ManDownUnder]

I work my up to an enhanced state of apathy if I can be bothered... otherwise I don't

[Dean]

PD - but most your threads end up there anyways.
No way PD is viewed too much.

The problems you mention arnt just related to Maori - there are whities, indians and chineese in the same situation - sometimes a lot worse.

The beaches they are claiming has fuck all do do with heritage - its all to do with greed. I bet most of them have no idea where their forefathers died. Of course they only care about their Maori forefathers - because thats what allows them to try and claim shit - they quite happily forget their white forefathers who knocked up a Maori chick some generations back. Not many full blodded maori is there.

oh and if you think a 7 grand hobag makes someone rich - then you must be poor as fuck.

it just means that they have a job.

Thats a whole load of bullshit, I know many things about my dads family, Maori's ask "whats your tribe" then you answer. I could safely say almost every Maori knows where there forefathers died this information gets passed down you flaming idiot! Listen to you, "its all about greed" bullshit I have been to Marae's serving free food regularly, they give hepas of money to the community. In hellensville, Dargiville, Manurewa and many other places are rec centers and youth worker houses for troubled Maori youths, when I was young I was at the multi plex in Dargiville which they funded (it was a skating place with youth workers and free food on fridays).

And 7grand aint cheap thats expensive, if it is cheap then why not you give me 7grand. After all its not that hard with a job like you said. Im not a poor fucker im living with two european parents who both own buissneses in one of the richest places in Whangaparaoa with sea views and big glass panels with a big backyard and a huge forest. Yeah I know you're wondering why you never climbed up this far in the ladder huh

[wbks]

Make sense damnit

[Tank]

Thats a whole load of bullshit, I know many things about my dads family, Maori's ask "whats your tribe" then you answer. I could safely say almost every Maori knows where there forefathers died this information gets passed down you flaming idiot!

So where did your white mother fucker forefathers die? Remember you have whiteies blood in you as well. Hey we could be related.



Listen to you, "its all about greed" bullshit I have been to Marae's serving free food regularly, they give hepas of money to the community.

They generally arnt the same ones who are taking over beaches - and I agree there are lots of Maori and non-maori groups that do a lot of good.


In hellensville, Dargiville, Manurewa and many other places are rec centers and youth worker houses for troubled Maori youths,

Any reason they didnt want to look after troubled Indian, or white youth? After all a lot of the funding they receive is from the 'white mans' taxes.


And 7grand aint cheap thats expensive, if it is cheap then why not you give me 7grand.

7 grans is cheap - and I wouldnt give it to you because I think you are a idiot.


After all its not that hard with a job like you said.

Everything is easier with a job. Pity you dont have one.


Im not a poor fucker im living with two european parents who both own buissneses in one of the richest places in Whangaparaoa with sea views and big glass panels with a big backyard and a huge forest.

Lucky you live with the european's ay?


Yeah I know you're wondering why you never climbed up this far in the ladder huh

You have no idea how sucessful or not I am. All in all - Im not doing to bad. I have a big house, I have lots of toys, I travel - and get this - I pay for it all myself !!!! yep - Im not bragging about how much money mummy and daddy have - its all mine and I earnt it.

Im a long way further up the ladder than you will ever be sunshine.

[huff3r]

No way PD is viewed too much.


Thats a whole load of bullshit, I know many things about my dads family, Maori's ask "whats your tribe" then you answer. I could safely say almost every Maori knows where there forefathers died this information gets passed down you flaming idiot! Listen to you, "its all about greed" bullshit I have been to Marae's serving free food regularly, they give hepas of money to the community. In hellensville, Dargiville, Manurewa and many other places are rec centers and youth worker houses for troubled Maori youths, when I was young I was at the multi plex in Dargiville which they funded (it was a skating place with youth workers and free food on fridays).

And 7grand aint cheap thats expensive, if it is cheap then why not you give me 7grand. After all its not that hard with a job like you said. Im not a poor fucker im living with two european parents who both own buissneses in one of the richest places in Whangaparaoa with sea views and big glass panels with a big backyard and a huge forest. Yeah I know you're wondering why you never climbed up this far in the ladder huh

7 grand may be expensive, but unlike some people, there are also those out there that work HARD for their 7 grand bikes. It wasnt given to him was it? Unlike the vast number of NZers who do get everything on a platter from the government. I see them everyday, and most those stuck in a rut are there because they dont WORK HARD. They give up, they blame everyone else for their problems, and then they spend the measly amount they do earn on $80 worth of Pizza to feed the family for a night.

The Maori did not have their land stolen by Europeans. Maori stole the land from other Maori, and then sold it to the Europeans to fuel their own greed. And now they want it back??

Me, on waitangi day i stay away from all the racist dribble on TV and whatnot and go get pissed...

[Karl08]

soooo.... what do others do on Waitangi day then?

[Tank]

soooo.... what do others do on Waitangi day then?

actually this conversation is one of the most common on Waitangi day - thus why I think replacing it with NZ day is a great idea.

[Mr Merde]

I write letters about White Motherfuckers and their puritanical bullshit.

I was thinking about getting involved in some pillage and then comtemplating a bit of mother fucking.

[EJK]

soooo.... what do others do on Waitangi day then?

I move at 1670 kph 24/7 as usual.
Breathe approximately 14400 times through out the day.

Busy life yo!

[imdying]

yes the morie ories were once the landlords but didnt properly colonise, were primitive, didnt make much of an impact.Ahhh, a bit like the Maoris then. Dumb niggers got colonized... deal with it.

[Dean]

So where did your white mother fucker forefathers die? Remember you have whiteies blood in you as well. Hey we could be related.
Im related to a famous french war General last name Pompay who married one of my ancestors in NgaPuhi tribe who had kids then the last name varied to mine.

My dads mothers side came from Ngati Mutunga iwi(taranaki) then migrated up to ngati Kahu and died their.


Any reason they didnt want to look after troubled Indian, or white youth? After all a lot of the funding they receive is from the 'white mans' taxes
Because the Maori youth were committing a majority of the crimes, comming to speak of this on of my cousins robbed a bank in dargiville and was shot dead by the armed defenders because he didnt put the gun down about 6 years ago, I have an article from it somewhere. A group of Maori teens murdered a guy walking home from the pub stuff like that. And there are some europeans who are in youth gang prevention programes funded by you know who.




7 grans is cheap - and I wouldnt give it to you because I think you are a idiot.
Then give 7grand to one of your sons, go on by next week, he's not an idiot either is he?


[/QUOTE]Im a long way further up the ladder than you will ever be sunshine.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, I doudt it im going places I just have to wait till im 18 to start it.

[Tank]

Im not a poor fucker im living with two european parents who both own buissneses in one of the richest places in Whangaparaoa with sea views and big glass panels with a big backyard and a huge forest.

Must have been very disapointing for your rich parents with the big sea views and private forest to find that their poor little boy had to shoplift food from foodtown.


It was this morning about 7:30 am so i was early for school, and i decided to buy my lunch from Foodtown.I walk in and two staff members watch me, everything i do they focus on me.I see them ring someone and from then i knew things are going to get heated, but i showed them my pockets were empty.Then they grab my schoolbag and lift it behind the counter, i got pissed of by that and asked for my schoolbag back and repeatedly tried to explain i didn't steal anything.10 minutes later a policeman turns up and asks me to leave i told him "why i was just trying to buy me my school lunch!". He replies saying get out or i will be banned from the plaza for 6 months, i asked him why i was in trouble and tried to explain i didn't steal anything.The Cunt grabs me takes me out gets my name and details and tells me I'm banned from the plaza for a year and a half.They could of at least told me what they had against me!
Anyway has anyone had the same experience, because of your colour,look,ethnicity (I'm Maori).

[Karl08]

are we off topic yet? With the can open and the worms every where, it's hard to tell..

[Tank]

Im related to a famous french war General last name Pompay who married one of my ancestors in NgaPuhi tribe who had kids then the last name varied to mine.


Not THE General Pompay (the one spelt Pompey) surley?

[Dean]

Not THE General Pompay (the one spelt Pompey) surley?

Yes the general, he is an icon in French war history, youd be suprised I have as much white blood as you do. Hold on Ill try and find an article on him.

[Gubb]

I dont talk shit tho, I voice my opinion, there always people that go against me and argue. Probably because no one takes me seriously or just tries to bait me.

I'm only in it for the mass-debating.

[Mully]

Can't have been this one - he's Italian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey

[Tank]

Can't have been this one - he's Italian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey

shhhhhh - he also died a little before the Maoris discovered NZ.

[Mully]

This one's geographically closer - he's Australian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Edward_Elliott

[Mully]

shhhhhh - he also died a little before the Maoris discovered NZ.

Pfft, a minor detail.

[mashman]

:laugh: i'm waiting for a Frankie Howard pic...

[Mr Merde]

shhhhhh - he also died a little before the Maoris discovered NZ.

But not before the Egyptians did.

<!--end Google-->

the Ptolemaic Greeks
This (image above) is the famous Ptolemy map of the world, as known by the Greeks two hundred years before the birth of Christ.
It was produced by Claudius Ptolemaeus, or Ptolemy, in 151 AD. If you look at the schematic beneath, the land mass marked Taprobana is not Ceylon as previously suggested - it's Australia ! Tasmania is even included.
As that is Australia, then the 2 islands named Bona Fortuna (boxed in red) look like - and would be - New Zealand.

http://www.zealand.org.nz/images/smptolemy.jpg


<!--end Google-->

[Dean]

hmmm It could be brigidare general elliot pompey, not sure on that one though, I do know I am related to some general. Its just that with elliot pompey isnt his last name it was a nickname but my last name is a Maori variation with pompey, im fairly sure the person was french. I got to ask my pops tonight.

[huff3r]

hmmm It could be brigidare general elliot pompey, not sure on that one though, I do know I am related to some general. Its just that with elliot pompey isnt his last name it was a nickname but my last name is a Maori variation with pompey, im fairly sure the person was french. I got to ask my pops tonight.

I'm sure theres plenty of people related to famous french generals around tho... Personally i dont believe history is relevant when judging how much anyone "deserves" anything. My parents were never "entitled" to land, they worked damn hard for it. As will I when the time comes.

But back on topic, Waitangi Day generally tends to be good beach weather, so if your local beach is still Public then go for it :D
And bring BBQ and cold cold beer :done:

[Dean]

Well would you look at this :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori
This says moriori were the indigenous people of the chatham islands east in the pacific ocean. Not New Zealand technically. And it says there is only record of 30 odd mori ori's.


I'm sure theres plenty of people related to famous french generals around tho
Huffr you worry me sometimes, maybe you just arent thinking straight just like the time you said a gn250 is faster than most cars, faster than your done up subaru.

[wbks]

Thats like saying you're an inhabitant of "Whangaparoa, specifically, not New Zealand". They were here first, and you're grabbing at straws now. And of course every effort in "correct" nz history is made to keep it "correct" by keeping the "innocent little Maori got raped by the big bad colonialist pigs" outlook. God forbid they got a taste of "what goes around comes around"

[Mully]

These people lived by a code of non-violence and passive resistance, which led to their near-extinction at the hands of Māori invaders.

Bastards!!

Oh, and:

The Moriori are culturally Polynesian. They developed a distinct Moriori culture in the Chatham Islands as they adapted to local conditions. Although speculation once suggested that they settled the Chatham Islands directly from the tropical Polynesian islands, or even that they were Melanesian in origin, current research indicates that ancestral Moriori were Māori Polynesians who came to the Chatham Islands from New Zealand before 1500

[mashman]

Huffr you worry me sometimes, maybe you just arent thinking straight just like the time you said a gn250 is faster than most cars, faster than your done up subaru.

HOLY SHIT, that means you're the only one, can i have your autograph!!!! Pleeeeeeeeeease let it go Dean...

[Dean]

Thats like saying that the square of land at X co-ordinates hasn't specifically been colonised. They were here first, and you're grabbing at straws now. And of course every effort in "correct" nz history is made to keep it "correct" by keeping the "innocent little Maori got raped by the big bad colonialist pigs" outlook. God forbid they got a taste of "what goes around comes around"

Boy your not that smart now are ya, England is greedy on a mass scale you cant compare them to Maori. England tried to take over the whole world and put them under the queen ya idiot, but thats not seriously greedy to you now is it. As I recall they tried to get America, Scotland, Ireland many more coutnries.

I think if you get any race you will see they dominated and killed off another to grow to succed to hold power. Maori were worshipping the land and were happy residing there.

[Dean]

Chatham island is an island New Zealand is an island they are two different places. But they both are in the pacific thats the only common factor.

[wbks]

Boy your not that smart now are ya, England is greedy on a mass scale you cant compare them to Maori. England tried to take over the whole world and put them under the queen ya idiot, but thats not seriously greedy to you now is it. As I recall they tried to get America, Scotland, Ireland many more coutnries.

I think if you get any race you will see they dominated and killed off another to grow to succed to hold power. Maori were worshipping the land and were happy residing there.This is so ironic I don't think I need to point it out to anyone... The point is that Maori are victims of their own ways of taking out anyone in a part of land and taking that land, just like whitey did, but the whitey was better at it. Is killing Moriori who were perfectly happy on the land and taking it from them different to killing Maori who were perfectly happy on the land and taking it from them. Go ahead, call me an idiot again for stating the obvious that you seem to really want to ignore. You can't spell "countries" but you still call me mentally deficient... As I recall, America was founded by brits, Scotland is part of Britain and so is the majority of Ireland. You suck at fact finding

[huff3r]

HOLY SHIT, that means you're the only one, can i have your autograph!!!! Pleeeeeeeeeease let it go Dean...

Oh not this again, why the fuck cant he get it that i said up to 80KPH its faster. I am not stupid enough to think its actually faster in top speed, just got decent ACCELERATION!

As for trying to say i'm dumb.... haha.... how old is little Dean? :lol:
I'm guessing he isn't a Bachelors of Engineering student. I'm guessing he didnt graduate with distinction from college. I'm guessing from the fact that no-one agrees with him, and none of his evidence is decent that he should shut the fuck up.

Go back to school.

And let us celebrate the day we had to give the Maori a bluddy treaty in peace.

[wbks]

Chatham island is an island New Zealand is an island they are two different places. But they both are in the pacific thats the only common factor.Just like the only common factor of North and South is that they're both part of NZ? So two islands ARE NZ, but another island is just a very very very near by island that happens to be part of NZ but is just in the pacific, which is the only factor?:mellow:

[Swoop]

... in Whangaparaoa with sea views and big glass panels with a big backyard and a huge forest.
A huge forest?? On the Whangaparaoa??

Are you a dwarf?

hmmm It could be brigidare general elliot pompey, not sure on that one though, I do know I am related to some general.
Sure it's not General Motors?

[mashman]

Oh not this again, why the fuck cant he get it that i said up to 80KPH its faster. I am not stupid enough to think its actually faster in top speed, just got decent ACCELERATION!

As for trying to say i'm dumb.... haha.... how old is little Dean? :lol:
I'm guessing he isn't a Bachelors of Engineering student. I'm guessing he didnt graduate with distinction from college. I'm guessing from the fact that no-one agrees with him, and none of his evidence is decent that he should shut the fuck up.

Go back to school.

And let us celebrate the day we had to give the Maori a bluddy treaty in peace.

Shit dude, why not run up and kick him in the bollocks whilst you're at it!!!! :Punk:

I don't mind that he has an opinion, it may well be right, but his hypocracy, that he seems not to see, really does him no favours.

[mashman]

Just like the only common factor of North and South is that they're both part of NZ? So two islands ARE NZ, but another island is just a very very very near by island that happens to be part of NZ but is just in the pacific, which is the only factor?:mellow:

(snigger) I always thought North Island was called "New" and South Island was "Zealand"... live and learn i guess

[Dean]

This is so ironic I don't think I need to point it out to anyone... The point is that Maori are victims of their own ways of taking out anyone in a part of land and taking that land, just like whitey did, but the whitey was better at it. Is killing Moriori who were perfectly happy on the land and taking it from them different to killing Maori who were perfectly happy on the land and taking it from them. Go ahead, call me an idiot again for stating the obvious that you seem to really want to ignore. You can't spell "countries" but you still call me mentally deficient... As I recall, America was founded by brits, Scotland is part of Britain and so is the majority of Ireland. You suck at fact finding

England taking india 1858
Canada
South Africa
Hong Kong and other asian colonies
South Sandwich islands in Antarctica
Oh im sorry in your mind that isnt greedy, so england can take New Zealand, because they dont have 'enough' land under the crown.

[wbks]

England taking india 1858
Canada
South Africa
Hong Kong and other asian colonies
South Sandwich islands in Antarctica
Oh im sorry in your mind that isnt greedy, so england can take New Zealand, because they dont have 'enough' land under the crown.Wow, you can use google. So when did I say anything about them being greedy? I said that the maori died out the same way they treated those before them, so it's hypocritical to cry about it. Nice, you lose one side, so switch to another before anyone notices. I don't find it greedy that some white, eastern and asian people live in modern day NZ and earn their keep, but I do find it greedy that some already well off Maori people decide to leech off of the NZ public by using some vague references and claims to try and own blocks of land that belong to the public

[Tank]

England taking india 1858
Canada
South Africa
Hong Kong and other asian colonies
South Sandwich islands in Antarctica
Oh im sorry in your mind that isnt greedy, so england can take New Zealand, because they dont have 'enough' land under the crown.

http://www.cultofmac.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/DoubleFacePalm.jpg

[Dean]

Oh not this again, why the fuck cant he get it that i said up to 80KPH its faster. I am not stupid enough to think its actually faster in top speed, just got decent ACCELERATION!

As for trying to say i'm dumb.... haha.... how old is little Dean? :lol:
I'm guessing he isn't a Bachelors of Engineering student. I'm guessing he didnt graduate with distinction from college. I'm guessing from the fact that no-one agrees with him, and none of his evidence is decent that he should shut the fuck up.

Go back to school.

And let us celebrate the day we had to give the Maori a bluddy treaty in peace.

I know you mean to 80kph again showing your stupidity, me and ma stepdad (and he has ridden his for a year) is :laugh: at you right now surely someone out there thinks this guy is a mental case for saying a gn is faster to 80kph then an average car. aahah

I dont care about your history, maybe you come across "different" over the internet?

[wbks]

Dude you're the single greatest source of signature material in the history of KB

[Swoop]

Youngbiker16, the poster now known as Dean, you are really confirming that:
16 is NOT your shoesize,
16 is NOT your age,
16 is NOT your postcount,

it IS however, your I.Q.

FFS, go back to school.

[Dean]

Well im going to do what kiwirach83 did and thats get out of this thread.
huffr: If you wish to validate this claim Im more than happy to set up a race, like I said maybe the internet gets the worst out of you, sorry.

Wbks:You made some valid points but the use of reasoning wasnt really what I thought of you to say again sorry if I offended you.

Mashman: Sorry for hijacking your thread

Tank: I have no pity or regret about anything I said to you, you need to get a life. If you look at other adults on kiwibiker they dont have a hobby of stalking a user and signaturing his old posts like theyre a troll god or something. You are a sad, sad old man who in his old age realises lifes main fun has passed him so you take your frustration out on me. You sound like a complete and utter loser and you are the first person your age I have called this publicly. You get your kicks out of harrasing a teen on the internet. Secondly lately most of your posts dont contribute anything to kiwibiker just videos of youtube and rants about politics. When you get a life you can talk to me.

[Swoop]

Well im going to do what kiwirach83 did and thats get out of this thread.
Thank fuck for that.

[Karl08]

...sorry don't mind me, I am just trying to get the worms back in the can. It's not so easy as I still have to clean the fan after all the sh.t hit it.

[Tank]

Well im going to do what kiwirach83 did and

http://mudrockandtheoccasionalpieceofshit.files.wordpress .com/2008/03/wavegoodbye.jpg byeeeeee!

[Maha]

Tank: If you look at other adults on kiwibiker they dont have a hobby of stalking a user and signaturing his old posts like theyre a troll god or something. You get your kicks out of harrasing a teen on the internet. Secondly lately most of your posts dont contribute anything to kiwibiker just videos of youtube and rants about politics. When you get a life you can talk to me.


I agree with ya Dean, he used to do the same with DB until a stop was put to that. You could make it stop by not replying, or add him to your ignore list like I have recently done to a couple of members.

[Tank]

Tank: I have no pity or regret about anything I said to you, you need to get a life. If you look at other adults on kiwibiker they dont have a hobby of stalking a user and signaturing his old posts like theyre a troll god or something.

But, but you give some much material - comedy gold - all of it.



You sound like a complete and utter loser and you are the first person your age I have called this publicly.

ohhh dear - I'm your first.


You get your kicks out of harrasing a teen on the internet.

I dont care how old you are - I like arguing with stupid people - its harlarious.


When you get a life you can talk to me.

Ill be honest - talking to you comes right near the bottom of my list of things I want to do - its right along there with masturbating with razor blades.-

[Teflon]

[QUOTE=Dean;1129547730
While in places theres families living in garages, mothers crying because she cant feed her sons and kids, sitting in the corner of the kitchen with a butcher knife because her husband came home.
[/QUOTE]

Tell the cunts to stop breeding and they wont be in such a bad position.. fucking monkeys :sunny:

Forget the Maori culture.. you'll be better off in life

[scissorhands]

Maybe this is why Maori supported national on ACC reform....

[peasea]

So, relatively new over here, what do you guys usually do on Waitangi day?

I always watch the news, just to see who chucks what at who and what gets shot to shit on the lawn at Waitangi.

Scrap the whole thing I say.

New Zealand Day or forget it.

[SMOKEU]

Getting OTP is the usual.

[Gareth51]

Go to the Vincent Rally.

Even has it's own KB corner

[scumdog]

So, relatively new over here, what do you guys usually do on Waitangi day?

Go to the BRONZ Vincent Motorcycle Rally at Alexandra mainly, most years it's that weekend.

[mashman]

Go to the BRONZ Vincent Motorcycle Rally at Alexandra mainly, most years it's that weekend.

I went 3 years ago. Had an absolute ball for 4 days. Especially enjoyed the Lindis pass and Buller on the way back... got knicked just outside Blenheim with the thousand yard stare on, then got covered in petrol at the petrol station in Blenheim... but what a glorious long weekend... Highly recommended

[caseye]

Might just have to take a ride up to Waitangi this year. You know go see the Maori Party and the nats and ask em why?Everyone else goes up there for a shouting match why shouldn't we?

[Tank]

Might just have to take a ride up to Waitangi this year. You know go see the Maori Party and the nats and ask em why?Everyone else goes up there for a shouting match why shouldn't we?

Well - they wouldn't be expecting it - and ALL the TV stations would be there.

a few 100 bikes revving during the speeches would get prime news time on that day - out protest the protesters !!!!

nice idea.

[caseye]

works for me! an my dear ol dad wouldn't mind my not being at his birthday party if he knew why I wasn't there.

[gatch]

I think about the land that was bought in the most legitimate sense at the time, by the very first member of my family in NZ, that is now gone. And think how much better off this country would be without that bullshit ass piece of paper..

Other than that I think, sweet, day off work, lets get boozed..