One less Public Holiday in 2011

[Oakie]

While firing the first shots at our staffing budget for our next financial year at work we have discovered that Easter Monday falls on the same day as ANZAC Day (25 April of course) in 2011. I've checked the implications with the Department of Labour and they confirm that where two public holidays fall on the same day, they are treated as just one public holiday. (Holidays Act section 44, sub section 4).
There may be some interesting debate about this when it becomes public knowledge. Oh, I know that ANZAC Day can't be changed ... has to be on the 25th and I think that Easter Monday is similarly fixed and that the Catholic Church provides guidance on the date.

Discuss.

[enigma51]

Go back to work you lazy bastard

[crazyhorse]

2011 is too far out to worry about.......... :done:

I'm not gonna lose sleep on it - as its my birthday that day, so I get a holiday anyway :laugh:

[Hopeful Bastard]

I'm not gonna lose sleep on it - as its my birthday that day, so I get a holiday anyway :laugh:


Aint you a lucky one eh??

Chocolate, AND a public holiday combined all on your special day... Fark!

[R6_kid]

I don't think Christ will be coming any earlier if we move Easter - to most of the population it is just a holiday anyway.

[Ixion]

Easter Monday has little (almost no) Christian significance. It's just a holiday. Many countries don't even have it. Easter Day (Sunday) or Good Friday would be another matter.

[Clockwork]

Does mean the shops will be closed Good Friday, Easter Sunday AND the morning of Easter Monday too though. Shopping on the Saturday will be very busy!!

[Mully]

It's probably John Key's fault anyway.

[StoneY]

The thing that guts me about ANZAC day, is its only worthy a holiday (in the gubbermints eye's) if it falls mid week
Thats an insult to the fallen IMO

Also, that Easter ( a religeous holiday) still causes non religeous people to suffer at the hands of the zealots, eg the trading limitations posed on and around this bullshit religeous crap, for goodness sake.....ya aint allowed to say a prayer at school anymore without permission but the gubbermint WILL fine you for trading at Easter?
Hypocricy!!!

FFS when is Catholocism going to get buried, its the 21'st century and I for one would rather celebrate the memory of the guys who gave it all for our freedom than a myth from aincient rome based on the life of a carpenter some muppet belived was born of a virgin in a barn.....

[Laxi]

Also, that Easter ( a religeous holiday) still causes non religeous people to suffer at the hands of the zealots, eg the trading limitations posed on and around this bullshit religeous cra.

the othrer side to that argument is that if those of us that couldn't give a flying about religous hollidays dont like then we dont need that day of either:shutup:

[Swoop]

FFS when is Catholocism going to get buried, its the 21'st century...
They are already closing down. Competition is stiff now that the "global warming" religion is sucking up all of the $$$'s.

[Indiana_Jones]

...and I think that Easter Monday is similarly fixed and that the Catholic Church provides guidance on the date.

Discuss.

Fuck what the Vicar of Rome thinks.

-Indy

[Flatcap]

If I work that day, will I get quadruple time and 2 days in leiu?

[Oakie]

If I work that day, will I get quadruple time and 2 days in leiu?

No.

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[steve_t]

The employers of the country rejoice :woohoo: unless they end up having the public holiday observed on the tuesday like this year's boxing day and day after new year's :shutup:

:wari:

[Oakie]

The thing that guts me about ANZAC day, is its only worthy a holiday (in the gubbermints eye's) if it falls mid week

It's not so much a holiday as a rememberance day on which we are given a holiday so we can pay proper respect. Unfortunately the people who don't work on the day miss out.

[Oakie]

The employers of the country rejoice :woohoo: unless they end up having the public holiday observed on the tuesday like this year's boxing day and day after new year's :shutup: :wari:

The Act only allows Xmas and New Years to be Mondayised (real word!).

[Flatcap]

No.

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Stupid Labour party got that law wrong as well then

[Naki Rat]

..... Easter Monday is similarly fixed and that the Catholic Church provides guidance on the date.

Discuss.

Not necessarily Catholic but obviously Christian based.

Easter falls on the first Sunday after the Full Moon on or next after the vernal equinox (Spring... March 20 or 21). However, if the Full Moon occurs on a Sunday, Easter is celebrated on the following Sunday.

So now you know :yes:

[oldrider]

The thing that guts me about ANZAC day, is its only worthy a holiday (in the gubbermints eye's) if it falls mid week
Thats an insult to the fallen IMO

Also, that Easter ( a religeous holiday) still causes non religeous people to suffer at the hands of the zealots, eg the trading limitations posed on and around this bullshit religeous crap, for goodness sake.....ya aint allowed to say a prayer at school anymore without permission but the gubbermint WILL fine you for trading at Easter?
Hypocricy!!!

FFS when is Catholocism going to get buried, its the 21'st century and I for one would rather celebrate the memory of the guys who gave it all for our freedom than a myth from aincient rome based on the life of a carpenter some muppet belived was born of a virgin in a barn.....

I suggest that the fallen would probably be more upset about many "other behaviours" of successive governments since their sacrifice, before they would feel dishonoured by the "rules" of ANZAC day!

The sacrifice of the ANZAC's was above all else, to uphold our national and individual "freedom"! Successive governments have steadily eroded both IMHO!

Personally, I believe if you are a trader and you want to offer trade, it is between you and your customer and nobody else!

The only limitation in trading hours should be set by those parties directly affected, I.E. trade or do not trade! Freedom of the individual!

Bloody interfering busybody governments and pressure groups etc, should mind their own business!

Catholicism, is the business of those who would be catholic, you don't have to go there unless you want to! Freedom of choice!

However, it is your right to have and express an opinion about it, as it is the right of others to listen or not! Freedom of speech!

There are too many stupid restricting rules, regulations and laws governing our lives, it's time to clean them out!

Bring back freedom and individual rights, abolish dumb laws! ASAP! :mellow:

[slofox]

I'll be dead by 2011 so what the fuck...

[crazyhorse]

Well, the bright thing for shop people is, that they are only closed for one half day and not too - therefore better for their business......:yes::whocares:

[crazyhorse]

I'll be dead by 2011 so what the fuck...

Crikey! That's abit sad. Sure hope not. You'll at least see the beginning of 2012............. :rofl:

[dogsnbikes]

we have discovered that Easter Monday falls on the same day as ANZAC Day (25 April of course)

So if I see those old buggers from the RSA shooting the easter bunny I will know why:yes:

And because I am really bored I have worked out that I am rostered off that weekend:blink:

[Brett]

Easter Monday has little (almost no) Christian significance. It's just a holiday. Many countries don't even have it. Easter Day (Sunday) or Good Friday would be another matter.

For sure, Easter Monday is little more than a holiday. Easter Friday & Sunday are the big ones for Christians and even then, they are just dates that were chosen to remember the death through resurection...for all we know it actually happened on Christmas and Jesus was probably born on Easter:gob:

[bikemike]

The resurrection IS the 25th December, in northern Hemisphere. Someone from astronomy please..?
And then there's Easter :-)

Plenty of good reasons for holidays, just not Holidays please.

I'd quite like a quiet day once a week - you know, no lawnmowers, chainsaws, building, DIY, just a day off. If we could stretch to that I'd barely need 'holidays' to 'get away from it all'.

[Donor]

FFS when is Catholocism going to get buried, its the 21'st century and I for one would rather celebrate the memory of the guys who gave it all for our freedom than a myth from aincient rome based on the life of a carpenter some muppet belived was born of a virgin in a barn.....

Yeah, but at the risk of being labelled PC and soft, there are a lot of people who believe in it.

...though the catholics can fuck off, they're a weird mob... don't trust any church led by blokes who wear dresses.

[slofox]

Crikey! That's abit sad. Sure hope not. You'll at least see the beginning of 2012............. :rofl:

You're rotten, you are, y'know that?...:killingme:rofl::killingme:rofl:

[Slyer]

Didn't Labour give us another week of annual leave every year?
Can't complain about that. :bleh:

[Oakie]

Didn't Labour give us another week of annual leave every year?
Can't complain about that. :bleh:

No. They legislated for employers to give us another week.

[Clockwork]

No. They legislated for employers to give us another week.


Cos those employers would have done it without the legislation right?

[NighthawkNZ]

The resurrection IS the 25th December, in northern Hemisphere. Someone from astronomy please..?
And then there's Easter :-)




has to do with the alignment of the Sun and earth to the stars (not son) and in the north yes the sun does not get to high in the sky... from 22nd to the 25th the resurrection on the 25th the rebirth of the sun

During this period the death is the sun and the earth are in alignment with the southern cross hence the sun dies on the cross and resurrection3 days later... but this is not celebrated till easter where the sun is is high in the sky at the begining of summer... all has to do with light and dark... during summer longer days so the sun is winning the light and dark battle...

It all has something to do with the procession of the equanoxis


For those that don't know...
http://www.google.co.nz/#hl=en&source=hp&q=2012+prophecy&meta=&aq=0&oq=2012+prop&fp=444de82b2e1a9446

This could be also aligned with biblical end times, nostradamus, and the mayan calendar and when we changed to the Gregorian calendar throwing it all up the woowoo... (woowoo technically means woowoo ;) )

Now the bible has many many references to the ages and is more about astrology than christians want to believe. A cosmic year or cycle is 26,000 years and an age is roughly 2000-2150 years. For a better understanding you need the know about the procession of the equanoxis (http://www.google.co.nz/#hl=en&safe=off&ei=JLIcS-D6MZD8tAOnq838BA&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CBAQBSgA&q=procession+of+the+equinoxes&spell=1&fp=444de82b2e1a9446). Its basically when the earth passes through the alignment of the astronomy signs. The exact dates of his life are not known but roughly. With more insightful study of ancient myths and Egyptian temples, texts and myths, it now appears that the Egyptians priests knew and measured the procession back to the old kingdom and there are hints that this knowledge went back to the Age of Gemini which ended somewhere near 6,140 BC

The age of Taurus the bull was 4300BC - 2150BC.

Aries the Ram 2150BC - 1AD roughly when Moses was about at the Crux or passover, (which is why when he came down the mountain with the ten commandments was upset that the people were worshiping a golden bull... (has nothing to do with false god as it was Taurus the bull, while Moses represented the new age of Aries the ram... the Lamb of god etc... even the scarifies of lambs etc. Jews today still blow the rams horn in ceremonies etc.

We are now supposedly in the age of Pisces at present 1AD - 2150 AD, Pisces the two fish. Jesus feeds 5000 people with five loaves of bread and 2 fish, He befriends 2 fishermen that were casting there net and jesus says cast your net the on the other side. The Jesus fish http://hawkeye.ngcsu.edu/%7ESLCOCH1108/Jesus-Fish-Bg.jpg

In the bible Luke 22:10 when Jesus's disciples ask when is the next pass over Jesus answers. "And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in." or another words the "Age of Aquarius"

End times... Matt 28:20 "I will be with you even to the end of the world" The word world is a mistranslation in many bibles including Kings James and it is suppose to be Aeon or Age... The World English Bible translations is "Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." till the end of the age of Pieces or equinoxes.

End of the world and end of the age are two totally different things and changes what the verse means

Little side note Jesus was born around march 7 BC... so if we were still using the Gregorian calendar it really should really be 2015 not 2008...:doh:


We could already be in the age of Aquarius... I mean heck it has been raining a heck of a lot lately :scratch: and I did say 2000-2150 years per age but we are definately in a pass over of it.


Revelations could easily be to do with Planet X... which we will get to later. So that's the biblical side

Nostradamus,
predicted very similar things but also said but also said we can avoid it all if we choose to change our ways... as does the bible... (just can't find the quote)

There are those that say that there is a planet (planet X (http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=planet+x)) which is also part of our solar system and passes through our the earths path every 2600 years or so and is on a very different orbit plane. The ancient Sumerians and Egyptians knew as well as the Mayans's knew and they put it on a calendar. If the planet passes close on the same side of the sun as we are on then gravitation could cause some rough times ahead volcano's on the ring of fire etc earth quakes... (which NZ is on the edge of). There are those that say, that NASA and many observatories around the world already see it and know about it (including one here in NZ) but are hiding the fact... because they don't know what to do and don't want mass hysteria of course these are the same people that claim that while we went to the moon the true conspiracy is what they actually found, and the true photo's of MARS and etc...

Of course then there are those that say many other things are going to happen from nothing its just that we are moving in alignment with centre of the galaxy and completing a cosmic age and moving into the cosmic age of Aquarius. To the aliens and (hehehe which would be cool)



Easter Monday has little (almost no) Christian significance. It's just a holiday. Many countries don't even have it. Easter Day (Sunday) or Good Friday would be another matter.

Easter and Xmas are more pagan than christians want to believe... the cristain faith is just another pagan belief... I will try and explain that one day...

[Slyer]

Good summary Nighthawk. ;)
It was quite interesting when I first learned.

Also the "Crown of Thorns" that Jesus the son of God are actually sunrays, from the "Sun" of God. Makes a lot more sense than an actual crown made of thorns lol, those christians get some funny ideas.

[ManDownUnder]

I rang the local Density Church and they said we are mandated to get our opinions from Bishop Tamariki. I mentioned I didn't go to that church, or any church for that matter, and hadn't signed anything comitting him to be my earthly God figure but I was told that doesn't matter.

Bishop Brian said so.

So I await from Opinion from Mt Wellington :apint:

[ManDownUnder]

Easter and Xmas are more pagan than christians want to believe... the cristain faith is just another pagan belief... I will try and explain that one day...

And a nice contra point to that is Mardi Gras... a huge pissup and topless party which happens every year... the day before Lent!

Still - it does say somewhere in the good book we are all sinners in the eyes of God. WEY HEY HEY!!!!!!!

[MisterD]

Cos those employers would have done it without the legislation right?

..ah the mental illness that is socialism...as it happens plenty of people had already negotiated that for themselves, yes.

[Tank]

The Jesus fish http://hawkeye.ngcsu.edu/%7ESLCOCH1108/Jesus-Fish-Bg.jpg


gets owned by the Darwin fish
http://www.northernsun.com/images/imagethumb/%20Darwin%20Fish%20Silver%20Emblem%20(Car%20Plaque )%20(2214).jpg

[bikemike]

Thanks, Nighthawk, that's what I didn't have time for. Look forward to the Oestre one too :-)