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lukemillar
10th December 2009, 08:48
Has anyone got any videos from either F2 or F1 classes on the Manfeild long circuit - preferably a forward facing camera?

I have been looking on youtube, but can only find the short track on rear facing cams.

Also, is there a line through turn 11 (?) that avoids the massive bump or does it run across the whole track?

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6206/manfeildautocourselongc.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/manfeildautocourselongc.jpg/)

Cheers
Luke

Cajun
10th December 2009, 09:00
Has anyone got any videos from either F2 or F1 classes on the Manfeild long circuit - preferably a forward facing camera?

I have been looking on youtube, but can only find the short track on rear facing cams.

Also, is there a line through turn 11 (?) that avoids the massive bump or does it run across the whole track?

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6206/manfeildautocourselongc.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/manfeildautocourselongc.jpg/)

Cheers
Luke

that corner was a bugger when used it on monday, i tried tons of different lines thru there, and couldn't really find one that i liked. keep unsettling the bike.

White trash
10th December 2009, 09:10
The best line is the one that gets you through it quickest with maximum exit speed, quite how someone's supposed to describe a "line" online (get it?) is beyond me.

For the record, that turn is the best turn of New Zealand race tracks

Quasievil
10th December 2009, 09:21
I found that everyone (in my class) exited really wide on the apex which left a big kick arse gap up the inside to pass on, seemed to work for me

300weatherby
10th December 2009, 09:23
Keep the weight outa your hands, don't overcontrol the front and stay ON the gas- not been to Manfeild,and don't know your paticular "bump" but that's the general rule

codgyoleracer
10th December 2009, 09:50
The best line is the one that gets you through it quickest with maximum exit speed, quite how someone's supposed to describe a "line" online (get it?) is beyond me.

For the record, that turn is the best turn of New Zealand race tracks

Ummm........know of a few others that might have a few more challenges to them than that bend. The line for me is tight on the inside as you cross the track repair/bump.
Glen

snapoff
10th December 2009, 11:10
The best line is the one that gets you through it quickest with maximum exit speed, quite how someone's supposed to describe a "line" online (get it?) is beyond me.

For the record, that turn is the best turn of New Zealand race tracks

For the record ,White trash has clearly never been down south:clap:

White trash
10th December 2009, 12:13
For the record ,White trash has clearly never been down south:clap:
I've been down south plenty. Just never spent so long on the edge of the tyre while accelerating that hard, which is what I enjoy. What track down south has something similar pray tell?

gimpy
10th December 2009, 12:27
I've been down south plenty. Just never spent so long on the edge of the tyre while accelerating that hard, which is what I enjoy. What track down south has something similar pray tell?

teretonga loop kicks arse on that one mate

White trash
10th December 2009, 12:51
teretonga loop kicks arse on that one mate
Not for being "up it" while cranked over it doesn't. MAybe if you ride a Vespa.....

wharfy
10th December 2009, 13:14
The line for me is tight on the inside as you cross the track repair/bump.
Glen

What he said. The "trench" is shallower there (as far as I can tell)

I think it would be a very cool corner indeed WITHOUT the trench.

OK Glen - if the bump wasn't there how would you do that section ?
For my limited ability that bump DOMINATES that whole section and truth be told I really wouldn't have a clue how to ride that (what appears to me to be a triple apex) big ass single curve from where the hairpin ends until it joins the back straight.

merlin
10th December 2009, 13:27
Has anyone got any videos from either F2 or F1 classes on the Manfeild long circuit - preferably a forward facing camera?

I'm not really sure exactly what F2 or F1 means (isn't it a key on your keyboard??! ;) ), but Southmotian posted a vid of one of his last runs on the track day on the 7th Dec.

Southmotian's youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg-bvmdueeY)

Not sure if that's what you are looking for, but I hope it helps

Cheers

codgyoleracer
10th December 2009, 14:11
What he said. The "trench" is shallower there (as far as I can tell)

I think it would be a very cool corner indeed WITHOUT the trench.

OK Glen - if the bump wasn't there how would you do that section ?
For my limited ability that bump DOMINATES that whole section and truth be told I really wouldn't have a clue how to ride that (what appears to me to be a triple apex) big ass single curve from where the hairpin ends until it joins the back straight.

Hi Wharfy:
Like many decreasing apex turns, mid track entry trailing the brake out to a higher mid-corner turn point then cut back to a late inside apex. (a bit like the the Dunlop sweeper on the main track). (but the bump can screw that method up, - unless of course you have the set up from heaven & then bumps virtually dont exist)
Or you could do it the Shirriffs way on "Bucky the Superbike" & go piling up the inside line hard on the brakes, keep it in tight & then give it a fistfull whilst still keeping it in tight early coming out.
Both methods are effective , but one requires blind faith in front end grip & the other requires balls.........

codgyoleracer
10th December 2009, 14:14
teretonga loop kicks arse on that one mate

What he said :-).......... Ime getting scared already Gimpy..... :msn-wink:

Sketchy_Racer
10th December 2009, 16:30
The best line is the one that gets you through it quickest with maximum exit speed, quite how someone's supposed to describe a "line" online (get it?) is beyond me.

For the record, that turn is the best turn of New Zealand race tracks

I hope your taste for women is better than your taste for a good corner! Surely you have you ridden at ruapuna? The sweeper coming onto the front straight has a way longer period of 'hard up it while on your side', even coming out of nana's has a huge amount of time of leant over with the throttle open.

It would be a much better corner without the bump, but everyone has to ride over it so it's all equal in the end.

Maido
10th December 2009, 16:51
I hope your taste for women is better than your taste for a good corner! Surely you have you ridden at ruapuna? The sweeper coming onto the front straight has a way longer period of 'hard up it while on your side', even coming out of nana's has a huge amount of time of leant over with the throttle open.

It would be a much better corner without the bump, but everyone has to ride over it so it's all equal in the end.

^^ this
I can think of 2 at ruapuna, Nanas is one and the last corner as sketchy said, Nanas is a beauty cos it is tight when you get on it and it just opens out and you drive up that straight for ages!
Also the loop at teretonga, you are on the side of the tyre for 7-8 seconds doing approx 135km (it seems faster than this but it actually isn't) then you are full noise as it opens out into the straight into turn 2 where you pull about 210 on a 600. good slides to be had. these corners all have 2 things in common, they are in the south island, and they all have no bumps :)

gixerracer
10th December 2009, 17:02
^^ this
I can think of 2 at ruapuna, Nanas is one and the last corner as sketchy said, Nanas is a beauty cos it is tight when you get on it and it just opens out and you drive up that straight for ages!
Also the loop at teretonga, you are on the side of the tyre for 7-8 seconds doing approx 135km (it seems faster than this but it actually isn't) then you are full noise as it opens out into the straight into turn 2 where you pull about 210 on a 600. good slides to be had. these corners all have 2 things in common, they are in the south island, and they all have no bumps :)

yea but it is a windy shit hole:doctor:

Sketchy_Racer
10th December 2009, 17:10
yea but it is a windy shit hole:doctor:

It is known for a light breeze I have been told... Certainly not something that would cause you to run off the track....
:rolleyes:

k14
10th December 2009, 17:16
^^ this
I can think of 2 at ruapuna, Nanas is one and the last corner as sketchy said, Nanas is a beauty cos it is tight when you get on it and it just opens out and you drive up that straight for ages!
Also the loop at teretonga, you are on the side of the tyre for 7-8 seconds doing approx 135km (it seems faster than this but it actually isn't) then you are full noise as it opens out into the straight into turn 2 where you pull about 210 on a 600. good slides to be had. these corners all have 2 things in common, they are in the south island, and they all have no bumps :)
Even the decreasing radius at Levels is fairly long on full lean, you have to be on your toes for the quick right after too.

It is known for a light breeze I have been told... Certainly not something that would cause you to run off the track....
:rolleyes:
And blowing engines :mad::mad:

Shaun
10th December 2009, 20:38
yea but it is a windy shit hole:doctor:



ONLY FOR loosers WHO GET BLOWN OF THE TRACK:Oi:

Shaun
10th December 2009, 20:40
Best most tech track is in timaru

hd is fun, but dam easy to learn, 10 laps will kill it.

White trash
10th December 2009, 20:46
...And blowing goats

Fucken Southlanders, always messin with a brothers goats.......

wharfy
11th December 2009, 05:03
Hi Wharfy:
Like many decreasing apex turns, mid track entry trailing the brake out to a higher mid-corner turn point then cut back to a late inside apex. (a bit like the the Dunlop sweeper on the main track). (but the bump can screw that method up, - unless of course you have the set up from heaven & then bumps virtually dont exist)
Or you could do it the Shirriffs way on "Bucky the Superbike" & go piling up the inside line hard on the brakes, keep it in tight & then give it a fistfull whilst still keeping it in tight early coming out.
Both methods are effective , but one requires blind faith in front end grip & the other requires balls.........

Bugger, I don't have either of those .....

It's good to have an idea of what I "should" be doing tho'.
Cheers.

wharfy
11th December 2009, 05:06
hd is fun, but dam easy to learn, 10 laps will kill it.

Sounds like my kind of track !!

Might take me more than 10 laps, I'm a bit of a slow learner :doh:

javawocky
11th December 2009, 07:42
Best most tech track is in timaru

hd is fun, but dam easy to learn, 10 <strike>laps</strike> <b><i>sessions</i></b> will kill it.

oh, that's right, he's not in the White group.

scracha
11th December 2009, 09:07
ONLY FOR loosers WHO GET BLOWN OF THE TRACK:Oi:

Wish I could get blown off the track more often.

gixerracer
11th December 2009, 09:55
Wish I could get blown off the track more often.

it is not as much fun as it sounds:no:

Wingnut
13th December 2009, 07:13
Wish I could get blown off the track more often.

Yep - Hmmmmmmmm, them were the days..........:spanking:

scuzeme
13th December 2009, 18:04
Sorry its a rear view but here is the link to my U Tube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/ibefrag#p/u/4/uVeH8qud11Q