Super Tenere

[young1]

A tease of things to come;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFoNqezPe-s

[thommo77]

Nice! Would like one of those:niceone:!

[paddy]

Love the caption:

"this location has been obeyed to the traffic rules"

I'm figuring that must be Japinglish for "filmed on a closed track".

[bart]

Well, that was a waste of 2 minutes 45 seconds of my life. Where's the bike?

[Eddieb]

Well, that was a waste of 2 minutes 45 seconds of my life. Where's the bike?

+ 1 million billion

What a load of shite.

[Woodman]

Well, that was a waste of 2 minutes 45 seconds of my life. Where's the bike?

What??? you didn't put your order in?? but there were sand dunes and a guy in bandages and everything.

[NordieBoy]

and a guy in bandages and everything.

Sooo... They're easy to fall off then...

[.chris]

How dare they show us so little.

I think they could be great, just hope they look good :cool:

[Crisis management]

Humph, first I though it was a KTM ad (it's all orange) then I find out its about a thing with ABS and a half dozen other acronyms with a shaft drive.






Somehow I suspect I will not approve. :no:

[Taz]

Don't get your hopes up. It'll just be another road bike.

[tri boy]

The girl has nice eyes.
Otherwise, meh. Shaft drive is for old men with fat guts who cant bend down to adjust a chain:dodge:

[Padmei]

Oh man that was really freaky:shit: Did you see the way the girls eyes turned into headlights like what you'd see on a motorbike??? WHat ???? - how can they do that stuff??

Oh man phew gotta go splash my face...


I mean that can't really happen in real life can it? cann itt????

[JATZ]

God I wish I knew what yous fullahs were on about...... but I aint gunna sit here for 3 days trying to watch a video on t'interweb

[Padmei]

Oh Jatz it was wonderful!!
There were dwarfs and princesses, jugglers & candyfloss...

but the best was wait for it...


yes UNICORNS

sigh...

[NordieBoy]

Going to be big competition for the Beemer 1200.

[JATZ]

Oh Jatz it was wonderful!!
There were dwarfs and princesses, jugglers & candyfloss...

but the best was wait for it...


yes UNICORNS

sigh...

Princeseses ? Unicorns ? sounds a bit like another film I saw online once :shit:

sorry..... thread hijack, as you were

[Waihou Thumper]

Making a 2min 45sec video and riding on the laurals of the Tenere of old will sell this beast?
Naa...Don't think so.
That was a load of crap, worse than Fair Go's worst ad of 2009...:clap:
We will have to wait and see what this entails I guess. A 1200cc shaft drive bike with lots of chrome and a 19 litre tank...:rolleyes: A real Adventure bike.....NOT!

[Taz]

The Japanese are just not getting it. Well not from a kiwi point of view. These will probably sell like hot cakes in europe where their idea of adventure is a little different.

[Toureg]

Don't bet on it being 1200 either, as it would be a lot easier to get the old TDM donk out of the bin and recycle it. Gonna be a bastard to ride with all those flappy bits around the front.

[Padmei]

I thought these Yammys were designed in France now? Am I wrong?

[NordieBoy]

Am I wrong?

Never !

[Eddieb]

A new vid, with full bike pics.

Not a Yamaha genuine release however and only shows one side so I'm somewhat sceptical, if this is real it looks a lot like the 660.

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[Waihou Thumper]

A new vid, with full bike pics.

Not a Yamaha genuine release however and only shows one side so I'm somewhat sceptical, if this is real it looks a lot like the 660.</EMBED>

Good music however...:)
Yes, me thinks there is a lot of Adobe work there on the colour options etc. The high guard looks good though. I want a yellow one but I bet all NZ and Aus gets is grey and white...:oi-grr:

[junkmanjoe]

Hmmmm....big motor, small tanks again....

do like the tour version...decked out with boxes and jerry can as well...

trade in maybe........:cool:

JMJ

[Woodman]

hhmmm, check out the position of the clutch cover. Looks a bit high or something. is the engine a vee twin?

[El scooto]

hhmmm, check out the position of the clutch cover. Looks a bit high or something. is the engine a vee twin?

Nope parralell twin like the TDM and S10's. Gearbox and clutch are up high behind the cylinders. Keeps the weight low for a slightly lower centre of gravity. Bike still weigh's a ton though!!

Cheers

[scracha]

Nope parralell twin like the TDM and S10's. Gearbox and clutch are up high behind the cylinders. Keeps the weight low for a slightly lower centre of gravity. Bike still weigh's a ton though!!

Cheers
How heavy do ya reckon she'll be? The ally framed tediums are miles lighter than the steel framed 850's.

Was hoping for belt or shaft drive but I reckon she'll be chain driven.

Wonder if they'll bring out a "little brother" 900cc edition like the beemer 800's.

[NordieBoy]

Was hoping for belt or shaft drive but I reckon she'll be chain driven.

It looks shafty to me.

[Hitcher]

Yamaha's marketing department has reinvented teasing. They're doing something similar with the upcoming FZ8.

A danger with the tease strategy is the reality not matching the anticipation.

[El scooto]

How heavy do ya reckon she'll be? The ally framed tediums are miles lighter than the steel framed 850's.

Was hoping for belt or shaft drive but I reckon she'll be chain driven.

Wonder if they'll bring out a "little brother" 900cc edition like the beemer 800's.

Not sure what the TDM's weigh in at. The old S10 is around 230kg's. BMW's are slightly more than that, so I would like to think they would be lighter than that. Ideally less that 200kg but I wouldn't count on it!

Cheers

[warewolf]

Not sure what the TDM's weigh in at.The 850 is a kg or two either side of 200kg (dry, claimed) depending on model, the alloy-framed 900 is 10kg lighter.

[1KTM]

the 660 tenere can do 25ks/liter and going hard out 21ks/liter 23 liter tank about 550 ks

[Peril]

Just to pull this thread out of the depth....This one's for you Ryan.
http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/super-tenere/

[Peril]

Just to pull this thread out of the depth....This one's for you Ryan.
http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/super-tenere/

[gordons]

Another teaser...

http://www.dualsportafrica.com/xt1200ztenere.htm

Estimate prices in the Republic:
Std: +/- NZ$22 600 (ZAR130 000)
Travel version: +/- NZ$ 25 200 (ZAR145 000)

Cheers

[gordons]

Travel Version - ZAR145 000 Fully equipped, crashbars, bashplate, High Fender, Panniers...

...with all the accessories, nice!

[Eddieb]

Another teaser...

http://www.dualsportafrica.com/xt1200ztenere.htm

Estimate prices in the Republic:
Std: +/- NZ$22 600 (ZAR130 000)
Travel version: +/- NZ$ 25 200 (ZAR145 000)

Cheers

According to that site the unveiling day is today at the Turkish MotoPlus Motorcycle show.

[Eddieb]

Oh here you go, it's now on Yamaha Europes website. Full 360 degree view and specs. It is a GS.

http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/products/motorcycles/adventure/xt1200z-super-tenere.jsp
Engine -
Engine type liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, DOHC, Forward-inclined parallel 2-cylinder, 4-valve, fuel injected, twin spark engine
Displacement 1199 cc
Bore x stroke 98 x 79.5 mm
Compression ratio 11.0 : 1
Maximum power - 110PS
Maximum torque - 'Big, Flexible Torque'
Lubrication system Dry sump, oil tank in crankcase
Fuel System Fuel injection
Clutch type Wet, multiple-disc coil spring
Ignition system Twin spark
Starter system Electric
Transmission system Constant mesh, 6-speed
Final transmission Shaft
Fuel tank capacity 23 L
Oil tank capacity 4.2 L


Chassis -
Chassis: Steel tube backbone
Front suspension system Telescopic forks
Front travel 190 mm
Rear suspension system Monoshock, adjustable preload and rebound damping
Rear travel 190 mm
Caster angle 28°
Trail 125mm
Front brake Hydraulic Twin Ø 310 mm wave discs
Rear brake Hydraulic Single Ø 282 mm wave disc
Front tyre 110/80Ｒ19M/C　59V
Rear tyre 150/70Ｒ17M/C　69V


Dimensions -
Length 2,250 mm
Width 980 mm
Height Min：1,410 mm / Max：1,440 mm
Seat height Adjustable 845-870 mm
Wheel base 1,540 mm
Minimum ground clearance 205 mm
Wet weight 261 kg

[Taz]

It's a shame it looks nothing like those conceptual photo's........ Just another heavy road bike.

[cooneyr]

Dissapointed, very disapointed. This bike certainly does not appear to qualify for the Super Tenere badge. "Upgraded" TDM maybe. It's just another V Strom/Varedo/GS.

261kg wet!!! 19 inch front wheel with a 110 wide tyre. 190mm suspension travel, side mounted radiators,

Lets just say I'm bloody glad I didnt pass up on the 950 Adv to wait for it (not that I'd ever be able to afford a new one but you get the idea). Hell I'd rather have kept and upgraded my old XT750Z than bought that ..... thing!

Back to the drawing board Yamaha!

R

[hmmmnz]

it may as well be a road bike, covered in plastic, it weighs more than my vf1000, which is saying something as thats a bloody tank
another disappointing "all terrain" bike, pah.

[Squiggles]

concept pics were far better

[scracha]

Wait till they bring out the baby Tenere 900cc version weighing 160Kg wet.

Hey...we can dream.

[george formby]

Wait till they bring out the baby Tenere 900cc version weighing 160Kg wet.

Hey...we can dream.

But, but, but, what about a 1200 TDM, hopefully a fair bit lighter though. I notice the weight is with 23l fuel & 4l oil. I could be persuaded to by a TDM 900 if I could put the 1200 motor in it...

[Phreaky Phil]

The girl has nice eyes.
Otherwise, meh. Shaft drive is for old men with fat guts who cant bend down to adjust a chain:dodge:
Ooch !! I'll have to bolt a sprocket & chain on the side of my diff !!!!!!

[young1]

Well I think it looks nice, shaft drive to me is a feature.

[Padmei]

Well after all the speculation I think it has delivered more than expected as far as technology goes. Traction control, ABS, some D thingy mod.

I haven't managed to see a pic of one without the ugly pannier boxes tho. As far as intial appearance goes it follows in the same directon as the Tenere.
Plentiful well thought out accessories - obvoiusly listened to the people wanting to buy one.

A GS? - Yep pretty much so but then that's the brand it would be competing against as it would have to be pretty special to coax a fanatical KTM rider away from their marque.

Would i buy one? Hmmm if I was to really ride around the world or do really big miles cos that's what it looks like to me - a big serious mileage machine - like a BMW 1200 GS.

I'll carry on researching but yeah I think Yamaha's delivered a biggie this time.

[Hitcher]

Hitcher likes. Yamaha have considerable experience in Paris Dakar and other endurance events. They're obviously looked hard at what riders in this category need in a bike. This is a brand new bike rather than a 660 on steroids or viagra. It has all the niceities and knick knacks required by a rider who plans to do considerable saddle time. Hmmm. 23 litre tank and a shaft. Nice.

[young1]

Two more thoughts (I am a bit slow tonight);
Traction control, I can just see the problems if that failed in the middle of no where (although does the GSA have it?)
Exhaust and cut away pannier, I wonder if they tried to tuck the exhaust up under the seat eg like the 990, which would not have affected the volume of the pannier

I still like the look of it though, it is good to have another option.

Padmei, if you play the video on the Yamaha site, there is a shot of the bike at the end less panniers.

[Woodman]

I like it. Very cool....

[warewolf]

It is a GS.Spot on. It's a Jedi bike, with a different badge on it.

Can't blame them for cashing in though. Comments in the bike mags at the moment are noting a consolidation of 'big bike' models and focusing on high volume cheap small bikes for emerging markets. Which means that our niche within a niche is going to have slim pickings for a while.

[warewolf]

Yamaha have considerable experience in Paris Dakar and other endurance events. They're obviously looked hard at what riders in this category need in a bike. This is a brand new bike rather than a 660 on steroids or viagra. It has all the niceities and knick knacks required by a rider who plans to do considerable saddle time.As opposed to a rider who plans to do considerable gravel time.

You are right, it is a brand new bike, apart from the similarity to the TDM engine. This bike has little material association with Yamaha's Paris-Dakar efforts, but all of the marketing. It is much more a Super TDM than a Super Tenere. The Tenere was always a glorified trail bike, this thing has no such pretensions, and as such I feel they have mis-appropriated the name.

[cooneyr]

As opposed to a rider who plans to do considerable gravel time.

You are right, it is a brand new bike, apart from the similarity to the TDM engine. This bike has little material association with Yamaha's Paris-Dakar efforts, but all of the marketing. It is much more a Super TDM than a Super Tenere. The Tenere was always a glorified trail bike, this thing has no such pretensions, and as such I feel they have mis-appropriated the name.

Here here! They are doing themselves a disservice by watering down the Super Tenere name. This should be a TDM.

[pampa]

Clearly they don't care about real adventure use or they wouldn't do 230Kg ++++ bike (unless you go riding with a couple of 4WD with 3 people each). What they clearly did IMHO is a bike for people with $$$$$ to take customers out of GS, which most likely won't be using it off road.


If I were touring around the world wouldn't pick a bike that cannot lift in the eventual situation bike is laying on the ground ...

So far they re-did Tenere which is again heeeeavy and this one which is heavier... they are surely nice looking road bikes.

[Oscar]

Clearly they don't care about real adventure use or they wouldn't do 230Kg ++++ bike (unless you go riding with a couple of 4WD with 3 people each). What they clearly did IMHO is a bike for people with $$$$$ to take customers out of GS, which most likely won't be using it off road.


If I were touring around the world wouldn't pick a bike that cannot lift in the eventual situation bike is laying on the ground ...

So far they re-did Tenere which is again heeeeavy and this one which is heavier... they are surely nice looking road bikes.

That sums up not only the 660 Tenere, but half the "Adventure" bikes on the market, including later GS's.

[Toureg]

Here here! They are doing themselves a disservice by watering down the Super Tenere name. This should be a TDM.

What did I say back in Post #19, I should be a gypsy reading tea leaves !

[bart]

That ain't a bike. It's a 2 wheeled car. Right up there with the Honda Goldwing :shit:

[warewolf]

What did I say back in Post #19, I should be a gypsy reading tea leaves !
Don't bet on it being 1200 either

Don't give up your day job. :shutup:

[NordieBoy]

Don't give up your day job. :shutup:

Score !

[dino3310]

Don't give up your day job. :shutup:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Score !

fark dont you sleep nordie

[BMWST?]

i like it .....a lot

[Hitcher]

If I were touring around the world wouldn't pick a bike that cannot lift in the eventual situation bike is laying on the ground

Pussies shouldn't be allowed to go adventure riding. Indeed pussies should be banned from riding motorcycles completely.

[warewolf]

Pussies shouldn't be allowed to go adventure riding.Perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to make inane comments in forums, either.

[Hitcher]

Perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to make inane comments in forums, either.

I agree wholeheartedly.

[BMWST?]

these are not adventure bikes for most riders.for me the attraction is a big(i am 6 3") bike with an awesome ride(coutresy of the long suspension travel),shouldnt cost a fortune to run (twin cylinders) with relaxed ergonomics.The fact that they will be reasonable gravel road bikes with some capacity for even rougher sections of road is a bonus.

[Eddieb]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/features/article7125853.ece

Roland Brown, bike journo and author rides the new Super Tenere.
Note: This is a brief fluffy for the masses newspaper review not a proper warts and all bikers review.

[Padmei]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/features/article7125853.ece

Roland Brown, bike journo and author rides the new Super Tenere.
Note: This is a brief fluffy for the masses newspaper review not a proper warts and all bikers review.

You looking to step up Eddie? It would be good to see one in the flesh - or under my butt

[GPS MAN]

I like that Mark....

Then I wouldn't have to put that 705 kit in my KLR....

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Padmei]

This is probably the best motorcycle test write up I've ever read. V interesting about the weight factor.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583990

[NZsarge]

Damn, I like this thing and these types of bikes really aren't my cuppa tea, all in all nicely done I reckon.

[tri boy]

Big Dave needs to throw his leg over it.
That Dutch tester was 6/4ft.
Could be the best all purpose bike, (save for knarley single track) available.
Hurry up Dave:spanking:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=545850&page=173

[Eddieb]

Some video from the Dutch launch, includes some dirt road footage starting about 2/3's through.

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[Eddieb]

And a bit of hooning on a beach.

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[Waihou Thumper]

Good write up. I guess at the end of the day it is the price that may sway people here in New Zealand. I would prefer something I don't mind dropping. If I going to spend over $20000 on a bike, why not get two? A nice lightweight Adventure bike, trail orientated and a long distance beastie...:) Have the best of both worlds!

[XF650]

Good write up. I guess at the end of the day it is the price that may sway people here in New Zealand. I would prefer something I don't mind dropping. If I going to spend over $20000 on a bike, why not get two? A nice lightweight Adventure bike, trail orientated and a long distance beastie...:) Have the best of both worlds!

I did that for a total of $10g. Different league to what youre talking about though.

[Monstaman]

Good morning from Montreal chaps, finaly found my login shit.

Was lucky enough to sit on the Super Tenere First Eddition promo bike at Lofeten in Norway.

Having only read briefly about it it would be safe to say these are not adventure bikes but tourers with a sit up position.

These bikes are BIG and too big for anyone under 6 ft tall, shaft drive is cool, I have a few closeup pictures of the goodies that make it work and when I get home will post them up if anyone is interested.

[Padmei]

You didn't manage to hotwire it & take it for a cruise. Post the pics & hope you're having a good time.

[dino3310]

what no posing shots....

[Monstaman]

You didn't manage to hotwire it & take it for a cruise. Post the pics & hope you're having a good time.

Heya Padmai, yeap been pretty groovy trip eh but missing the riding big time. The guy with the Tenere was the father of the guy who has the dealership so the bike was on a promo ride, couldn't ask about a ride cos engrish and germenish wasn't happening well :shit:


what no posing shots....

I have them, just can't post em cos they are too big, will put them up on Monday when we get home, first job I promise. :yes: .... right after checking the DR and KL ..... :Punk:

[GPS MAN]

I would have one...but, only on the ROAD!!!:scooter:

[cynna]

theres one on trademe already

[Monstaman]

Heya fellas

Back in NZ now.

Pics as promised, for anyone who hasn't seen one in real life they are NOT an adventure bike but a big arse tourer adv lookalike.

You will have to be over 6 ft tall to have one and preferably some pretty good weight lifting titles to your name if it went to ground.

Anyway, enjoy, any questions I can answer I will but the pics say most of it, I didn't get to ride it.

[Monstaman]

Some more pics

[Monstaman]

Last ones, I am about 5' 6.5" for reference.

[Monstaman]

Last one plus a coupla other bikes

[Oscar]

Going to be big competition for the Beemer 1200.

Let the competition commence - guess which one we're using to hold this in place:

http://www.heatingoil.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/8000dwt-product-oil-tanker.jpg

[Eddieb]

Let the competition commence - guess which one we're using to hold this in place:



I'm suspecting the BigMuthaWeight.

[Waihou Thumper]

It is a motha of a bike alright...BUT, looking at the video of the Dutch press flicking it around, it didn't look too bad. The thing that got me about the release was that NZ wasn't included in the first release with all the extra add ons. Australia was, this was luggage, crash bars, lights etc. I may be wrong but this was included for European release as the first edition. For the $24000 they are asking it would have been a good buy, but good bye now..:)
I did read this on the press release article, rang Yamaha NZ and that was the answer I got. PLUS, the dealer wanted a deposit up front sight unseen to reserve the bike because numbers were limited for us here and they were mostly pre sold....Bummer.

[Night Falcon]

The tires say it all....its a big but tourer alright!!

[Racing Dave]

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I had a decent spin on Trevor's demonstrater today, on a mix of seal and gravel. Overall, good fun and easy to ride. Peppier in the mid-range than my R1200GS Adventure, feels lighter to ride, lower seat height, 20 km/l, great mirrors. A bit icy, in places!

With knobblies (and a bash plate) it'll go wherever similar bikes go.

[BMWST?]

It is a motha of a bike alright...BUT, looking at the video of the Dutch press flicking it around, it didn't look too bad. The thing that got me about the release was that NZ wasn't included in the first release with all the extra add ons. Australia was, this was luggage, crash bars, lights etc. I may be wrong but this was included for European release as the first edition. For the $24000 they are asking it would have been a good buy, but good bye now..:)
I did read this on the press release article, rang Yamaha NZ and that was the answer I got. PLUS, the dealer wanted a deposit up front sight unseen to reserve the bike because numbers were limited for us here and they were mostly pre sold....Bummer.


my experience too but i thought it was gonna be the first edition one....i will never ever buy a bike without riding one(or preferably it) first

[Waihou Thumper]

and a bash plate it'll go wherever similar bikes go.......You gotta pay for that...:) And all of the other bits that are in the photos to make it look a superb Adventure steed....Overall, gotta say I think it looks great but disappointed to be alluded to the fact that the first edition might include extras like Europe, Sth Africa and Aussie.......

[Night Falcon]

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I had a decent spin on Trevor's demonstrater today, on a mix of seal and gravel. Overall, good fun and easy to ride. Peppier in the mid-range than my R1200GS Adventure, feels lighter to ride, lower seat height, 20 km/l, great mirrors. A bit icy, in places!

With knobblies (and a bash plate) it'll go wherever similar bikes go.

that river crossing looks cold Racing Dave.....does it come with hand warmers???

["D" FZ1]

The Japanese are just not getting it. Well not from a kiwi point of view. These will probably sell like hot cakes in europe where their idea of adventure is a little different.

These are selling well in NZ. The first shipment is sold out and we are taking orders already for the next shipment.

[BMWST?]

These are selling well in NZ. The first shipment is sold out and we are taking orders already for the next shipment.

so is(or was) the first shipment part of the Limited editions