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Hitcher
1st May 2005, 19:06
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd really like to do something to honour Sam's memory and do something for his folks and family as well.
Any bright ideas?
soundbeltfarm
1st May 2005, 19:08
i agree mate.
maybe people in different regions do a ride and everyone leaves the same time or something.
Slipstream
1st May 2005, 19:13
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd really like to do something to honour Sam's memory and do something for his folks and family as well.
Any bright ideas?
how about a bike convoy at the funeral?
StoneChucker
1st May 2005, 19:17
I would definitely attend a bike convoy to/from the funeral. However, I'm wondering if the family would prefer a more private affair?
A memorial ride to Gladstone as suggested on the other thread is a nice idea too. I'm all ears.
Hitcher
1st May 2005, 19:20
We need to be sensitive to his family's needs and wishes.
Does anybody know his folks at all?
Someone has mentioned this already, but I would appreciate a sort of 'Memorial Hall' created on this site for such happenings. A place where sincere thoughts & farewells can be expressed by KB members, remembrance pics uploaded, etc, dedicated to individuals such as the late Sam.
Sutage
1st May 2005, 19:25
I reckon it'd be real neat to get everyone into one place, kinda hard tho, guess it depends on the familys wishes for the funeral.. :( this sucks hard
Ms Piggy
1st May 2005, 19:26
Someone has mentioned this already, but I would appreciate a sort of 'Memorial Hall' created on this site for such happenings. A place where sincere thoughts & farewells can be expressed by KB members, remembrance pics uploaded, etc, dedicated to individuals such as the late Sam.
Great idea. Maybe we could have a ride in his honour and put some money in for family or something. Possibly b/c we don't know how his family felt about riding giving them their privacy may be best.
scumdog
1st May 2005, 19:28
Someone has mentioned this already, but I would appreciate a sort of 'Memorial Hall' created on this site for such happenings. A place where sincere thoughts & farewells can be expressed by KB members, remembrance pics uploaded, etc, dedicated to individuals such as the late Sam.
See my posting in "URGENT", any thoughts?
soundbeltfarm
1st May 2005, 19:32
its a bloody shame.
just looking at his profile to learn a bit about him.
he was on here this morning before this very sad event.
I like the earlier suggestion of multiple group rides around the country, departing at the same time, afterall KBer is a nationwide club. I think this should be a standard response from KBer if we are ever unfortunate enough to experience the loss of a fellow rider again.
We definately need to find out from the family whether it would be OK for us to attend the funeral. If not, We should take a ride in respect regardless.
Slipstream
1st May 2005, 19:37
its a bloody shame.
just looking at his profile to learn a bit about him.
he was on here this morning before this very sad event.
I noticed that before...that and he was rather young :(
I think having a bike convoy probably isn't the best idea without talking to the family...you're quite right.
And having some sort of memorial list or special symbol for "passed on" members seems like a good idea too.
he was on here this morning before this very sad event.
Yeah, that hit me too...
Things can change in a flash! Thats why we must make the most of every minute we have...
Sensei
1st May 2005, 19:40
Someone has mentioned this already, but I would appreciate a sort of 'Memorial Hall' created on this site for such happenings. A place where sincere thoughts & farewells can be expressed by KB members, remembrance pics uploaded, etc, dedicated to individuals such as the late Sam.
Yea posted in Urgent some thing , would be a great thing to do
Hitcher
1st May 2005, 19:41
Someone has mentioned this already, but I would appreciate a sort of 'Memorial Hall' created on this site for such happenings. A place where sincere thoughts & farewells can be expressed by KB members, remembrance pics uploaded, etc, dedicated to individuals such as the late Sam.
An excellent idea. Food for thought for our senior administrators...
I noticed that before...that and he was rather young :(
I think having a bike convoy probably isn't the best idea without talking to the family...you're quite right.
And having some sort of memorial list or special symbol for "passed on" members seems like a good idea too.
Just ask the family!
I am very sure if they are interested, you guys can convoy behind the hearse and it would be very touching for the family to know just how much he meant to fellow motorcyclists. Also rather than having a dislike for motorbikes for taking their son, brother, or mate away, when the will see a bike on the road they will remember the send of given to the young man.
Had I met the man or had contact I would prob cross the strait to join in but I really am to busy this coming week.
Wouldn't hurt to ask the family in my opinion, esp. if it is explained the community he belongs in (KB) would like to show their respects.
Also any positive motorcyclist publicity is better for all of us. Hope you can work something out
Stevo
Sutage
1st May 2005, 20:39
Shrug, that would be good to do.. unless the parents blame bikes for taking him.. i really hope they dont but imagine the stress/pain they are in, i think someone should definately ask tho
Umm..before we do the convey and all the big stuff, how about we all decide a minute of silence and take our time to pray for him together (to whatever god you believe in)…so that we all in NZ can take that minute to pray for him together….just a thought…and of course we can always go to his funeral and show respect
scumdog
1st May 2005, 20:54
Kinda puts into perspective all the bitching about speed tickets, bad weather, motorbike brands, leather vs cordura etc eh?
Marknz
1st May 2005, 20:59
Yep, I'll be up for donating funds if needed, flowers for a memorial, or something more permanent if that is the way we decide to go. Would like to know the funeral details too if the family is happy for us to attend.
I only met Sam this morning as he, Jimbo and Garry ( not sure what his nickname is) were deciding whether or not to go up the hill. I had just come back from the 'Fish and found them by Te Marua Golf course having a chat. I convinced them that the weather was great on the other side of the hill and there was sun and good riding to be had.
Needless to say, I feel like a right cock now
justsomeguy
1st May 2005, 21:04
This is not good...... I was plannin on some kind of ride for a bunch of us ZZR250 riders........ :no: :no: :no:
Whose signature was it???
Not one day that you are here on this earth has been promised to you
So make the most of every day as if it was your last ...........
Have a great ride up there..... Flyin.......
Atleast since you are now above cloud level there wont be any rain or roadworks to worry you!!
Paul in NZ
1st May 2005, 21:14
Convoy???? Well for sure, if family is up for it, but let it come from someone that knows them eh? It's a bit raw for some people and not always appropriate eh!
Put me down for serious $$ for flowers though. (I'll arrange if required)
Our first priority must be to the living eh! I understand some KB'rs were with Sam until the ambulance left. Thank you. I know this is not a good outcome but that was beyond anyones ability to change. Thank you for being there and doing whatever you could.
This will have a profound effect on people. If you want to talk, reach out through this forum and work it out. It's best eh! Failing that, call me and I'll take you out and get you pissed. Not recommended but sometimes it has to be done eh!
I dunno...
Certainly a simultaneous set of get togethers and a moment of silence and a few words of rememberance in his memory next sunday is not a bad idea. We could all go someplace afterwards and raise a glass to an absent friend as well...
Paul N
ps - correct me if I'm wrong but was this not the very weekend a few years back 4 bikers were taken out around there by that tourist????
pps - enjoy those rides folks. Sam would not want you to be glum...
FROSTY
1st May 2005, 21:15
Ohh fuck -Lets quietly contact his family.
Does anybody know his family ??
If nobody is closer to him I'll be prepared to talk to them.
I see the sentiment here re memorial forum but I hope and pray we don't ever need it again.
The Tazman
1st May 2005, 21:20
Yep, I'll be up for donating funds if needed, flowers for a memorial, or something more permanent if that is the way we decide to go. Would like to know the funeral details too if the family is happy for us to attend.
I only met Sam this morning as he, Jimbo and Garry ( not sure what his nickname is) were deciding whether or not to go up the hill. I had just come back from the 'Fish and found them by Te Marua Golf course having a chat. I convinced them that the weather was great on the other side of the hill and there was sun and good riding to be had.
Needless to say, I feel like a right cock now
Mate Gary here. I know how you feel. I tried to turn back twice. the second time at the cafe at the top and he persuaded me to carry on. I only met him for about half an hour on Friday when he met some of us at my work and then today. Gutted, I hope he has gone to a better place.
I would like to see a convoy for the funeral but as everyone else has said it has to be down to the parents. I have to be honest I am not the best at coming up with ideas but am at backing them up or putting them into action. Please who ever is the organiser let me know what I can do. I hope that has come across ok, am not the best with words either.
The Tazman
Gary
Have taken my signature of as I don't think it is appropriate
..
Like others I had a look at his profile tonight. Hauntingly his "Last Activity" was today...
What got the lump in my throat was in the profile where it says "offline".
Paul in NZ
1st May 2005, 21:27
What got the lump in my throat was in the profile where it says "offline".
same here......
What got the lump in my throat was in the profile where it says "offline".
Aye. I was looking through his profile and thinking 'Surely not... He was online this morning'
I for one will be hunting out a black armband for tomorrow.
Ms Piggy
1st May 2005, 21:34
Maybe someone should put up a poll on what we want to do as a community. I'm all for a memorial ride and putting some money in for flowers or whatever may be appropriate.
By the way there are organisations that can help those who are feeling really affected by Sam's passing away, Victim Support http://www.victimsupport.org.nz/ourservices.htm or Skylight (more for young people) http://www.skylight.org.nz/page.php?c=833
Take care of each other.
Kwaka-Kid
1st May 2005, 22:02
RIP :(
Thoughts go out to family and friends.
I too would love to see a memorial ride for Sam, and a catch up/drink for Sam some time soon. Let us all clear our heads before we decide.
RIP Sam
Thankyou to Jimbo and anyone else who was at the scene to help Sam. I hope you are safe.
What a terrible thing to happen. RIP sam, sad i never got the chance to meet you.
Everyone be safe out there. Good on you jimbo and everyone else for doing what you could.
Very sad news. Condolences to family and friends.
its very sad for me to hear this, specially as of recently I have been reflecting hard on my crash.
sorry that I'll never get to meet a great guy and a great rider.
been reading his thread... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=10924&page=1&pp=15&highlight=flyin
I want to highlight that he has on his profile as a member of http://www.club-k.co.nz/index.htm which is run by
Quintin Brown - Admin@club-k.co.nz Mobile : 021-110-1116
as they might want to organise something as well, so it'll make sense for KB and them to link up.
Ms Piggy
1st May 2005, 23:04
Hey I was just thinking, maybe a donation would be more helpful than flowers. It's just that people get sent lots of flowers and it doesn't mean as much - if you get what I mean. If we donated to the family then they could do what they like eg. Buy a nice photo frame to get a picture of Sam put in or the like.
If we donated to the family then they could do what they like eg. Buy a nice photo frame to get a picture of Sam put in or the like.Great idea.
I'd definitely want to be involved in whatever gets organised for Sam. Once we've got the word from his parents can someone make sure they post in here what the plan is?
What a terrible loss of a young life, I agree with Zed we need to have a hall of rememberance for kb members to acknowlege their lives and reflect upon how easily life can be snuffed out. My thoughts are especially for this young mans parents, they will always wonder "what if" . Rest in peace Sam
jazbug5
2nd May 2005, 08:36
Okay: a few of us seem interested in going to lay flowers. So, although initially I personally felt like going straight away, in the interests of more of us making it there in a group, what about the weekend? After WMC closes on Saturday, or on the Sunday?
We could just make it a quiet ride over there, pay our respects and then, I don't know, go back to one of our houses and crack open a few beers, or maybe even go over one of his favourite routes. Elaine?
I'm happy to go with whatever the consensus is.
This news greatly saddens me, met Flyin on a ride several weeks ago, he seemed like a good keen man.
Couldn't find any other posts as to what happened, so what happened?
RIP.
Quasievil
2nd May 2005, 08:39
Im not sure what to say really,got a lump in my throat about this whole thing.
I dont know much about the incident or where and when but I would imagine a funeral will be close.
Funerals are strange things sometimes from the perspective that sometimes people go who may not be particulary welcome.
You do not have invitation lists at funerals, you go as a individual mark of respect.
I believe strongly that if you want to go and turn up on bikes, you go, If you get a couple of strange looks so be it, Sam would be smiling on you and thats all that matters. I think the family would appreciate a turn out from his biker friends, do it respectfully, keep your distance and go as a mark of respect to Sam.
Sam would want this I am positive.
I think also Post when it is on, I might come down, I think its important .
Sniper
2nd May 2005, 08:46
I think the convey is a good idea or even for those that knew him personally to write out a few lines and pass it on to his family
Sniper
2nd May 2005, 08:47
I think also Post when it is on, I might come down, I think its important .
I would like to come from the South too
Im not sure what to say really,got a lump in my throat about this whole thing.
I dont know much about the incident or where and when but I would imagine a funeral will be close.
Funerals are strange things sometimes from the perspective that sometimes people go who may not be particulary welcome.
You do not have invitation lists at funerals, you go as a individual mark of respect.
I believe strongly that if you want to go and turn up on bikes, you go, If you get a couple of strange looks so be it, Sam would be smiling on you and thats all that matters. I think the family would appreciate a turn out from his biker friends, do it respectfully, keep your distance and go as a mark of respect to Sam.
Sam would want this I am positive.
I think also Post when it is on, I might come down, I think its important .
Yeah, got a big lump in my throat myself. Agree that need to respect the families wishes, I reckon it would be a good idea to make contact with the family or undertaker to gauge interest from his family in turning up to the funeral.
Checked the Dominion Post this morning, no notice for Sam - maybe tomorrow.
Ms Piggy
2nd May 2005, 08:58
Okay: a few of us seem interested in going to lay flowers. So, although initially I personally felt like going straight away, in the interests of more of us making it there in a group, what about the weekend? After WMC closes on Saturday, or on the Sunday?
We could just make it a quiet ride over there, pay our respects and then, I don't know, go back to one of our houses and crack open a few beers, or maybe even go over one of his favourite routes. Elaine?
I'm happy to go with whatever the consensus is.
I'm with that. Either day would be good for me.
Another idea I had was placing a notice in the paper on behalf of Kiwibikers.
jazbug5
2nd May 2005, 09:10
I think a notice is also a good idea. Hitcher?
pyrocam
2nd May 2005, 09:10
I'm with that. Either day would be good for me.
Another idea I had was placing a notice in the paper on behalf of Kiwibikers.
Thats a great idea. Im keen for helping with that
Flowers or some form of donation is a great idea, as is a notice in the paper. We need to set up somewhere to send donations to ASAP.
Never met Sam, but your responses have put a big lump in my throat too.
Ride on Flyin, ride on.
I've just caught up with all the posts about Sam. I sure hope that all the people who were with him are ok. There's nothing worse than knowing that you can't help.
Just my 2 cents, but a memorial run sounds like a good idea. Perhaps we could all sign a card to be forwarded to his family as a sign of our respect.
RIP Sam.
RiderInBlack
2nd May 2005, 09:33
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How about we leave him (profile etc) on the members list but have some token to indicate he has "passed on" and Rides the Sky, any thoughts?
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That would be awesome. This with his profile in a "Honored Sky Riders" Thread for those of us that have past away would be a cool way of keeping it real for the rest of us.
Hitcher
2nd May 2005, 12:42
I think a notice is also a good idea. Hitcher?
I'll go with that, but only on the basis that it doesn't happen before his family decides to post a death notice (or not).
Has anybody spoken with his family or friends at all?
FYI: related article from NZ Herald: Call for road works after motorcyclist dies, http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10123376
FYI: related article from NZ Herald: Call for road works after motorcyclist dies, http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10123376
Shit that's scary. Four motorcyclists in one spot. I remember hearing about the two guys killed by the American tourist but didn't realise it was the same spot.
Makes it all seem even worse.
jazbug5
2nd May 2005, 14:21
I'll go with that, but only on the basis that it doesn't happen before his family decides to post a death notice (or not).
Has anybody spoken with his family or friends at all?
Of course: I'd assumed that, but I'm glad you pointed this out.
His girlfriend has posted on the Urgent thread. I think Frosty may have already spooken to her. Elaine is a friend of his and his family's (and a member) but I'm not too sure how often she posts. I think she's been watching this, though. I'm guessing we'll know what they think soon enough.
Easy ride?
2nd May 2005, 22:57
Yeh I post every so often.....
The response from all Kiwi Bikers is incredible. Great bunch a people associated here.
NO ONE HAS TO GIVE SHIT. BUt it shows for itself SO THANKS !!!!!!!!
I understand that there will be a memorial ride this weekend I will confirm later in the week.
Again all the support is great, if anyone would like to know anything or feel they can help in anyway please PM me.
Jazz are you in wellington or are you still on your hunimoon??? ; )
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