14th May '05 - KB ride for all down SH22

[justsomeguy]

I can do it in about 1 hour on my Gixxer 6 if it's a non stop redlining ride all the way through but from what I've heard from other people's experiences and since we have some newbies comming along as well, I guesstimated a max of about 3hrs taking the rest stops into consideration as well.

How long do you reckon it'll take for the group to get there?

Lets say atleast 3 -4 hours. Cos of the waiting, etc

And I'll be riding with front brakes only so I may be a little bit slower.

[lolo170379]

Papakura Authoband?????? What's that??????
It could obvious for you but not for an only 3 months new french biker.
I know the suburb Papakura but not the Authoband
Do you have an adress with it?

[Devil]

Lets say atleast 3 -4 hours. Cos of the waiting, etc

And I'll be riding with front brakes only so I may be a little bit slower.
Call me an adult, but I would consider it a little foolhardy to be doing that road, with that many people, with no back brake.

[Motoracer]

Papakura Authoband?????? What's that??????
It could obvious for you but not for an only 3 months new french biker.
I know the suburb Papakura but not the Authoband
Do you have an adress with it?

bonjour monsieur

It isn't Authoband. It is Autobahn, as in the Autobahn cafe. It is located at the service center with the big BP petrol station right next to it as well. It is the exit right after Papakura exit on your left if you are comming from Auckland city.

Here is a map that JSG had prepared earlier:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10206

[Devil]

bonjour monsieur

It isn't Authoband. It is Autobhan, as in the Autobhan cafe. It is located at the service center with the big BP petrol station right next to it as well. It is the exit right after Papakura exit on your left if you are comming from Auckland city.
bahn!
Autobahn!
:yes:

[lolo170379]

Merci monsieur
A demain 9h.

[johnsf1980]

I can do it in about 1 hour on my Gixxer 6 if it's a non stop redlining ride all the way through but from what I've heard from other people's experiences and since we have some newbies comming along as well, I guesstimated a max of about 3hrs taking the rest stops into consideration as well.

How long do you reckon it'll take for the group to get there?

Who is going to make up the tail end of the group during the ride? i.e. we know that if riders A, B & C have reached the rest stops everyone has gotten there safely.

If necessary Im happy to be one of those riding right at the back of the group.

[Fart]

Lets say atleast 3 -4 hours. Cos of the waiting, etc

And I'll be riding with front brakes only so I may be a little bit slower.


You dont need back brakes unless it is a gravel road or racing. :D

[Mr Skid]

You dont need back brakes unless it is a gravel road or racing. :DWhat about right hand rear sets? They're a bit of a luxury item too aren't they?

[Zed]

You dont need back brakes unless it is a gravel road or racing. :DNot so, you can't make such a general comment. YOU may not need them except on gravel, etc, but other people who have a different style of riding use their rear brake all the time. :yes:

[Motoracer]

Who is going to make up the tail end of the group during the ride? i.e. we know that if riders A, B & C have reached the rest stops everyone has gotten there safely.

If necessary Im happy to be one of those riding right at the back of the group.

Thank you for your offer, you are now added to the list of people taking turns to ride at the back.

[Krayy]

Add me to the list MR!!!

I'll have my camera with me, so watch out Ricksta - no wayward trips into those nice farmers drains mate.

[danb]

Updated list as of 1314hrs 13.05.05
About 38 bikes!


+DanB
+TristanK

Err make that 40 bikes :niceone:

[Madmax]

wont be able to make it (bugger)

[pyrocam]

Who is going to make up the tail end of the group during the ride? i.e. we know that if riders A, B & C have reached the rest stops everyone has gotten there safely.

If necessary Im happy to be one of those riding right at the back of the group.

Ill be at the back because Im still a noob and I have the slowest bike from all of yous.

which is a good thing cos then I can record the bikes infront of me :) assuming the weather doesnt turn foul. Ill fit it at autobahn and turn it on just past the tuakau bridge. hopefully gloved finger will make the right contact :/ or someone infront of me can press record on the remote lol.

[aff-man]

All you people who's bikes arn't in pieces are silly silly people


:bye: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:


Well have fun i guess i'll catch you on the next one.... don't know what i'll be riding though :no:

oh well time for some :drinknsin :drinknsin

[Two Smoker]

All you people who's bikes arn't in pieces are silly silly people


:bye: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:


Well have fun i guess i'll catch you on the next one.... don't know what i'll be riding though :no:

oh well time for some :drinknsin :drinknsin

What are you talking about??? My 600 is still in pieces and has been for the last 5 and a half months... and my 400 is in pieces too at the moment...

[Two Smoker]

You dont need back brakes unless it is a or racing. :D

This is a KB ride remember... Im going TLR hunting :devil2:

Oh yeah, ill see all you guys at Barry's point road first :niceone:

[swanman]

Papakura Authoband?????? What's that??????
It could obvious for you but not for an only 3 months new french biker.
I know the suburb Papakura but not the Authoband
Do you have an adress with it?

Eh putain pas un francais! Je suis venu ici afin de les eviter!

A demain.

[ricksta]

I mentioned about the ride to my boss today... so he'll come along if he can find papakura autobahn that is :D

[Zed]

Eh putain pas un francais! Je suis venu ici afin de les eviter!

A demain.U been messing round with the language settings on your pc there swanny? :eek:

More to the point, how many times u ridden 22 now swanman?

[Madmax]

may come out and meet some of you
would like to come all the way but only 2 weeks to move house
and my partner and flatmate are useless at packing
so my saturday is f**D (whole weekend??)
may come out to puke and head back..
still packing, so may see you tomorrow
(plus my chain should be re adjusted, its on the stand now)

[chickenfunkstar]

Looks like a good turn out.
See you all tomorrow.

[FEINT]

may come out and meet some of you
would like to come all the way but only 2 weeks to move house
and my partner and flatmate are useless at packing
so my saturday is f**D (whole weekend??)
may come out to puke and head back..
still packing, so may see you tomorrow
(plus my chain should be re adjusted, its on the stand now)


I might do the same... will probably cruise to pukekohe then head back. I can't ride too long tomorrow either.

[Madmax]

plus i might come back by kawakawa bay
later / liter
:devil2:

[Zed]

I might do the same... will probably cruise to pukekohe then head back. I can't ride too long tomorrow either.Pikers the both of you! :bleh:

[N4CR]

Yeah looks like I wont be making this one either... Hope you guys have a great ride. Ill see you all some other time (SHADOWS HUH PYROCAM :D)

[Madmax]

the last time i did this i was was going to some place else!? so we will
see what happens again? mabey we might get some
more photos (as long as they are not of me )
sutage and friends have some good lines (even if they were not quite right)
But they have helped, the less powerfull bikes can use more road..
the ZX10R will try to turn round if you look at the gas the wroung way
for what its worth??
max
:devil2:

[swanman]

U been messing round with the language settings on your pc there swanny? :eek:

More to the point, how many times u ridden 22 now swanman?

I have proly riden it all of 4 times. i.e. not much. Tomorrow I am going to hoon it if conditions are good. This will be my last ride for a few weeks as I am going to the UK for a coupla weeks, leaving Tuesday.

[Gazzar]

All looking good so will see you all at ABs :ride: :niceone: :D

[justsomeguy]

All looking good so will see you all at ABs :ride: :niceone: :D

If you can't come and are feeling guilty I am happy to take your bike out for you. So that you are represented in todays ride.:yes:


AND WTF ARE YOU DOING AWAKE AT 6:50am???:nono:

[pyrocam]

yawn. good morning everyone. weather looks great and Ill see you there!

[Sheep Dags]

Weather's looking MINT! It's gonna hold out for us today then piss down tonight... so they say!

Anyways it's all on, see you hory shories at cyclespot.
- Mike

[Madmax]

Is anyone actually going to this thing.. doesnt appear to be much interest.:whistle:






..:cold:
only about 40 odd bikes :D
myself and feint had to head back
and do shit (bummer) :whistle:

[bugjuice]

guess who played Xbox till 3.30am then forgot to set the alarm this morning?
fuk.

hope you guys had fun..

[John]

guess who played Xbox till 3.30am then forgot to set the alarm this morning?
fuk.

hope you guys had fun..
Should have played playstation then you would have stayed awake :lol: sorry.

Hope everyone has a good ride :D. Such a nice day for It... :( If only I could ride a bike o h any bike, fuck this i'm getting drunk *yay*

[pyrocam]

guess who played Xbox till 3.30am then forgot to set the alarm this morning?
fuk.

hope you guys had fun..

I was wondering where you were.

Ive got the ENTIRE ride on video.

after a quick look its very shakey though. which makes the editing easy. just use the non-wobbly bits.

SPEAKING of Wobbly bits
read this: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=12045

[pyrocam]

OH but otherwise. Awesome ride. two people went into the gravel but came out ok,. I got one of them on the bike - cam.

I had a few close calls on the way down but I was hella lucky.

I need a stiff drink after that though :drinknsin

*edit. camera footage is nigh-unwatchable

all shakes.
It _has_ worked better in the past

[Jeremy]

Back about an hour ago (went SH1 back), I thought there was 3 minor spills? Two by the same guy though.

[danb]

Yea twas a good ride apart from the gravel :mad: (Still glad I went) - I think I did reasonably well considering I have done so few km's. Got alot more work to do with my cornering. Don’t know what to do about the damage - Looking at it the Right Fairing will have to be totally replaced and a respray because of the different colour my bike is. Front Faring well its will need at least painting and a little bit of plastic welding. Ohh and then there is the helmet that got scratched both on the visor and the helmet is self. Least I did not get damaged (this time) :D .
Any suggestions on wether I should claim this under insurance for what has been done? – Need to find out what me excess is…

If someone can shove the pics up that would be good.

[danb]

Back about an hour ago (went SH1 back), I thought there was 3 minor spills? Two by the same guy though.

Yea he did have 2 and another one last weekend :doh: - Suprised the bike still looks one hell of lot better than my one does - Grass helps :yes:

Man the :devil2: must be out there for us Honda cbr250's :argh:

[aff-man]

Sorry to hear it dan. What your parents say??


Looks like you others had fun.......








BASTARDS

[bugjuice]

dan, that sucks! Don't let Feint see this!!
might not be worth all the trouble claiming it on the insurance. Call a couple of places for farings and check out www.justfairings.co.nz to see if they have what you need. As for spraying it up, I'm sure some people can recommend somewhere that can help you out there..
what other damage is there? What happened? You ok?

[Cary]

Yea he did have 2 and another one last weekend

The other rider wasn't RICKSTA that went down was it? :thud:

[pyrocam]

some vids are up

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=238508#post238508

[danb]

The other rider wasn't RICKSTA that went down was it? :thud:


Err think so - Sorry if im wrong

[surfchick]

guess who played Xbox till 3.30am then forgot to set the alarm this morning?
fuk.

hope you guys had fun..

you sure it was x-box? or was it your nu. wieghtloss trade?

[Waylander]

you sure it was x-box? or was it your nu. wieghtloss trade?

Maybe it was a bit of both ie his Xbox wanted to lose wieght.

Looks like y'all had fun and from what I've seen of Pyrocam's vids looks like a perfect road for a nice ride. Have to make sure I get out on it sometime.

[Two Smoker]

I hada great time, first road ride in MONTHS!!! MR was the rider of the day (surprise surprise) and my front tyre is shagged (hence why i started getting slow and slower as the day went on....

Great turn out (40 odd bikes)

AND wicked to see Vladi again :niceone: been ages since i have ridden with you, it was good to have a 3 way battle with you and MR :niceone:

[aff-man]

I hada great time, first road ride in MONTHS!!! MR was the rider of the day (surprise surprise) and my front tyre is shagged (hence why i started getting slow and slower as the day went on....

Great turn out (40 odd bikes)

AND wicked to see Vladi again :niceone: been ages since i have ridden with you, it was good to have a 3 way battle with you and MR :niceone:


Bastard see even though your bikes are broken you still somehow managed to go on the ride :mad: :mad:

[johnsf1980]

The other rider wasn't RICKSTA that went down was it? :thud:

It was RICKSTA.... the 2nd time he went down it was against two trucks... didnt really have a choice but to head for the hills (fields)!!!!!

We had a good (mostly) uneventful drive back to Auckland on SH1 :ride: :niceone:

[NinjaBoy]

Great ride although had to split off at Ngaruwahia. Boring cruise back up SH1 (once I figured where that was). :msn-wink:

Sorry to hear about Ricksta's offs. Need to invest in some armoured pants soon.

Hopefully the next one I can stay the whole day and note to self ...winter rides wear cordura not leathers :cold:

[pyrocam]

you guys went up sh1 also? fuck I should have waited for you. might have prefered the company that some dickhead calling me a bastard after I nearly killed myself.

I still dont know how I managed to control a fishtailing back wheel at 110k's to stopping.

maybe ive just found my natural talent :)

[johnsf1980]

you guys went up sh1 also? fuck I should have waited for you. might have prefered the company that some dickhead calling me a bastard after I nearly killed myself.

I still dont know how I managed to control a fishtailing back wheel at 110k's to stopping.

maybe ive just found my natural talent :)

Yeah... danb, ricksta, me and jeremy(?) ride back on SH1... I decided to come back that way because I didnt want to deal with all the twists and turns on SH22 again!

SH1 was a sweet easy cruise :niceone:

[swanman]

Back home safe and sound. I am sure I am missing something though. Great ride, challenging road, and great company. Right knee slider took a beating too!

[Two Smoker]

Back home safe and sound. I am sure I am missing something though. Great ride, challenging road, and great company. Right knee slider took a beating too!

You can say that again.... glad you got home safe and sound :niceone:

[Ghost Lemur]

Sounds like you guys had a blast.

[Sheep Dags]

so other than those 2, the day was incident free!!! :whistle:
well i had fun!

p.s. Drako and Death... I owe you big time!

[Fart]

Great Ride. Thanks guys. Sorry had to leave mid day to Hammy. Had to meet someone there. Man, I am rusty from years of not riding. Need more riding practice.

[Two Smoker]

well i had fun!

!
Looked like you had alot of fun hehehe...

[DEATH_INC.]

so other than those 2, the day was incident free!!! :whistle:
well i had fun!

p.s. Drako and Death... I owe you big time!
Anytime mate!
Aw well at least me and bruce got to do 1/2 of 22 today...... :Pokey:

[dangerous]

so other than those 2, the day was incident free!!! :whistle:
well i had fun!
Guys... rumer has it down here, that there was a magical sum of 5 acco's 3 on the same corner..... WTF is the deal :ride:

Good to see all you guys injoying ya selves..... pitty its too bloody cold down here to go far now :drinknsin

[dangerous]

the 2nd time he went down it was against two trucks... didnt really have a choice but to head for the hills (fields)!!!!!

If ya doing it all right how the hell do ya manage to get in that position.... unless the 2 trucks were in the wrong???

it was good to have a 3 way battle with you and MR :niceone:
Ummmm 3 way battle on the road............. kinda answers my question above :niceone:

[Two Smoker]

Ummmm 3 way battle on the road............. kinda answers my question above :niceone:

Nah mate, we didnt crash...

[justsomeguy]

Yes there were 5 acco's today........ thank God everyone walked away.:no:

I'll let the respective riders tell their own story.:yes:

And I had a real hairy moment too when I sort of Target fixated on a seated HDTBoy ( stopped to show us direction ) and didn;t notice the tightening blind right corner ( I suck at right corners).... so had a hair raising moment.........

Along with my usual too late braking moments .....

But fingers crossed in 14 days when I get a one inch long piece of plastic tube from Japan that costs $15:mad: I will get me rear brakes.......then we do the tuhwunty thoo again........:devil2: ......

[sAsLEX]

And I had a real hairy moment too when I sort of Target fixated on a seated HDTBoy ( stopped to show us direction ) and didn;t notice the tightening blind right corner ( I suck at right corners).... so had a hair raising moment.........



Do you mean me?? In blue leathers?? I was sitting and saw you have a little moment just after a one lane bridge!

oh and people, get good gear today showed that leather is the best! and nearly the minimum

[Fart]

You guys crack me up. Watching all those that try to keep up with the faster riders was hair raising. I was rusty and kept my own pace with a cruisy ride.

[erik]

I had a great time too. I woke up a bit late and didn't get to the AB until 9:50, but I knew the route and caught up the newbies on SH22 and everyone else on one of the stops. Sorry if I startled any of you newbies when I passed you, I tried to do so safely. I think it way Kray on the yellow vtr250 leading you guys?

Ridge road was interesting, hadn't been that way before so took it fairly easy. There was at least one hill crest where you couldn't see what the road did, and just over the hill was a corner and the road (being on a ridge) dropped off fairly sharply at the sides, I could imagine someone flying over the hill and ending up clearing the fence and into the paddock if they weren't careful...

I was pretty happy with being able to keep up with some of the bigger bikes on the day down, but it was a bit frustrating being stuck behind people on the corners that would then accelerate away on the straights, and me on the 250 didn't have the grunt to pass.

On the way back I took it a bit more easy.

Chickenfunkstar and your mate (sorry, I'm bad with names) I hope you guys got home ok. I was following you for most of the way up 22, but turned off towards pokeno because I wanted to head up ridge road again.

[johnsf1980]

If ya doing it all right how the hell do ya manage to get in that position.... unless the 2 trucks were in the wrong???

Ummmm 3 way battle on the road............. kinda answers my question above :niceone:

Ummm we werent racing!! Just crusing along nice and easy :ride:

[erik]

Do you mean me?? In blue leathers?? I was sitting and saw you have a little moment just after a one lane bridge!

oh and people, get good gear today showed that leather is the best! and nearly the minimum

I had a bit of a moment after that turn where you were showing the way! (I'm not saying it was your fault or anything, just that it happened).

There was a bit of water running across the road on the corner you were sitting at, and I didn't see it until I was on top of it, so the bike wiggled a little bit as it lost a bit of grip over it, but all was ok.

Time for dinner and more :apint:

[Zed]

Well that would have to be the greatest turnout for a "KB ride" I have personally been involved with. There were so many bikes that we decided to change our route somewhat and ride up SH1 to the Bombay turnoff and then take an easier way to Tuakau and onto the infamous 22. It worked too - no one got lost as far as I am aware and all 'starters' made it successfully to our first rest stop just past the Tuakau bridge...JSG's favourite spot! :msn-wink:

:niceone: Weather and road condition was ideal for the entire ride, with the exception of a light rain shower as we lunched at Hamilton. Tks for leading the way to our lunch spot dss3!

BIG thanks to MR for organising it and for those other 'helpers' who assisted the noobs and made the route clear for others by stopping at the major intersections! There was a great atmosphere all round and it was good to meet heaps of new KBer's and non-KBer's alike!

Now that I've had my 7 hour weekly riding fix I feel rather exhausted...certainly looking forward to the next one! :ride:

Oh, and "sexiest bike of the day" IMHO goes to Duckman's black Gixxer600....very nice.:banana: (when do you think it will be fully run in Mr D??) :D

[dangerous]

Ummm we werent racing!! Just crusing along nice and easy :ride:
Why the hell did you just edit ya post that was above????? it was a good explanation of what happened with the 2 trucks you and Ricksta..... people could have learnt from that post.
Even if it plainly said that Ricksta passed when he should have waited.

ps: the post was contradictory to the edited one quoted in this post

[Ixion]

It sounds like a very good ride and a very good turn out.

I'm regretting that I and Li'l Rat Bike couldn't make it, but I had to cage Mrs Ixion to Wangamata today.

However : [Nana mode ON ]

Three fucking crashs by new riders .

WTF. Sorry, don't tell me they were all "minor crashs". There is no such thing as a minor crash. At this rate it's only a matter of time before someone doesn't get up from one of these "minor crashs".

For the sake of all the biker gods, SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. At least on the corners.

And I do think that the more experienced riders do have a part to play in the slowing down of the new chums. If not for reasons of responsibility and humanity, then for purely selfish ones. If some young kid buys it on SH22, you can guarantee there'll be such a police presence on that road that no-one will want to ride it for a long time to come

[justsomeguy]

Do you mean me?? In blue leathers?? I was sitting and saw you have a little moment just after a one lane bridge!

oh and people, get good gear today showed that leather is the best! and nearly the minimum

Sorry matey...... yup it was you.

Yeah, too much braking while the bike was (relatively for me) leant over and it got pretty unstable. Managed to correct it quickly and safely but there was a good second or two of "oh feck" sentiments there. Especially with a faster rider sitting behind me waiting to pass.

[XTC]

Reading all this has sort of put me off coming along on a KB ride.... Think I'll stick to riding with one or two mates or by myself...... Sounds like a group ride with KB is just a race.

[johnsf1980]

Why the hell did you just edit ya post that was above????? it was a good explanation of what happened with the 2 trucks you and Ricksta..... people could have leart from that post.
Even if it plainly said that Ricksta passed when he should have waited.

ps: the post was contradictory to the edited one quoted in this post

Well I thought he might like to explain it himself :)

And we were cruising along nice and easy.... I guess he just picked the wrong time to pass or didnt see the on coming truck for some reason or something!

[Zed]

Do you mean me?? In blue leathers?? I was sitting and saw you have a little moment just after a one lane bridge!Yeah that was you Alex, JSG told me about his scare further down the road and I remembered that you were sitting on that corner, which is one of the more dangerous ones along 22, especially if you're not familiar with it.

Btw Alex, I really enjoyed following you back up 22 after Hamilton, you ride a good line into the twisties at a really solid pace! <-- Give that man a 600cc sooooon. :yes:

[sAsLEX]

For the sake of all the biker gods, SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. At least on the corners.

And I do think that the more experienced riders do have a part to play in the slowing down of the new chums. If not for reasons of responsibility and humanity, then for purely selfish ones. If some young kid buys it on SH22, you can guarantee there'll be such a police presence on that road that no-one will want to ride it for a long time to come

The farmer who came to check his fence said on that paticular corner its at least one a month that bins it, the guy from last month is still in the Hosp with busted pelvis .........

keep it rubber side down team

[dangerous]

Three fucking crashs by new riders .

WTF. Sorry, don't tell me they were all "minor crashs". There is no such thing as a minor crash. At this rate it's only a matter of time before someone doesn't get up from one of these "minor crashs".

For the sake of all the biker gods, SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. At least on the corners.

Well said... was kinda what I was getting around to saying, but some how I dont think the young ones will comprehend it all the same. :ride:

[sAsLEX]

Btw Alex, I really enjoyed following you back up 22 after Hamilton, you ride a good line into the twisties at a really solid pace! <-- Give that man a 600cc sooooon. :yes:

Yeah not long after aI peeled off from the group as I was getting a little tired and the pace was a bit hectic while not on full game.

Is looking more towards a XR as next bike, learn to ride like motu etc a take the path less traveled rather than a tyre blistering corner taking beast.

oh and if anyone finds my WOF tag?! oh and I found a cell phone as well tele flip thingo it has been run over though, going to take it to uni tomorrow and wire it up so it goes?!

[BigB]

Thanks to MR for a great day

First time I've gone back up 22 and loved it. Hope those who had misfortune are all ok, the KB's spirit was great.

To Zed and guy on the Yamaha (hopeless at names) thanks for the company from the last stop on 22 back to the Puke/Motorway turnoff, great run with out pushing it.

cheers

BigB

Lurker

[swanman]

Three fucking crashs by new riders .

WTF. Sorry, don't tell me they were all "minor crashs". There is no such thing as a minor crash. At this rate it's only a matter of time before someone doesn't get up from one of these "minor crashs".

For the sake of all the biker gods, SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. At least on the corners.



The crashes were not all new riders!

[johnsf1980]

The crashes were not all new riders!

Two by ricksta and one by danb are the ones I know of.... both new riders.

[Zed]

Is looking more towards a XR as next bike, learn to ride like motu etc a take the path less traveled rather than a tyre blistering corner taking beast.Fairy nuff. Sportsbike, dirt bike, cruiser...whateva tickles your fancy Alex!

Now you mention it, when I got onto Old Gt Sth Rd, Runciman on my way home tonight I saw in the distance a dirt bike doing donuts in the gravel (looked really skilled at it too) and then he came towards me and pulled a nice big wheelie - so I felt the need to respond in like manner, we both passed eachother on one wheel...was a special moment to end the day. :Punk:

[dangerous]

The crashes were not all new riders!

Two by ricksta and one by danb are the ones I know of.... both new riders.

Yes there were 5 acco's today........ thank God everyone walked away.:no:

And by the sound of it a few too many close calls :nono:

[justsomeguy]

Reading all this has sort of put me off coming along on a KB ride.... Think I'll stick to riding with one or two mates or by myself...... Sounds like a group ride with KB is just a race.


No KB rides are not races. You ride at what pace you are comfortable with. KB'ers always have stops where we WAIT for EVERYONE to catch up.


MotoRacer races in F1 & F2, TwoSmoker in F3, and others in equally competitive arenas.


If you want to keep up with these people and you aren't equally talented....THEN THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.

[Zed]

To Zed and guy on the Yamaha (hopeless at names) thanks for the company from the last stop on 22 back to the Puke/Motorway turnoff, great run with out pushing it.Tks to you too BigB for leading the way right till the end! That road is soooo nice to ride on when it's dry!! :yes:

Ps. Hope you buy a Blackbird soon. :msn-wink:

[Two Smoker]

It sounds like a very good ride and a very good turn out.

I'm regretting that I and Li'l Rat Bike couldn't make it, but I had to cage Mrs Ixion to Wangamata today.

However : [Nana mode ON ]

Three fucking crashs by new riders .

WTF. Sorry, don't tell me they were all "minor crashs". There is no such thing as a minor crash. At this rate it's only a matter of time before someone doesn't get up from one of these "minor crashs".

For the sake of all the biker gods, SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. At least on the corners.

And I do think that the more experienced riders do have a part to play in the slowing down of the new chums. If not for reasons of responsibility and humanity, then for purely selfish ones. If some young kid buys it on SH22, you can guarantee there'll be such a police presence on that road that no-one will want to ride it for a long time to come

Yep mate i agree, BUT the 3 supposedly minor crashes (although i agree with you when you say no crashes are minor) were not due to speed, but inexperience. We recommended that they didnt come, but the persisted (and good for you guys :niceone: ) and under the watchful eye of John on his Dragstar (cheers mate) rode down SH22... There is nothing MR and I could have done to prevent those crashes...

[Two Smoker]

Reading all this has sort of put me off coming along on a KB ride.... Think I'll stick to riding with one or two mates or by myself...... Sounds like a group ride with KB is just a race.

Not at all mate, it is a group ride, it is just that there is such a large range of paces... Dont be put off at all... Bins arent due to the pace of the ride, but the rider themselves...

[Two Smoker]

And by the sound of it a few too many close calls :nono:

I was at the front of the group with MR and Vladi, I can honestly say i did not have one "moment" the whole day.

[bugjuice]

just reading thru the threads and watched that vid from Pyro.

Guys (well, newbies) - LEAN!!!!!! goddamnit. You have heaps of grip, don't be afraid to lean, lean, then lean some more. If it's all going to be over, it'd hurt less if it's a low side (slide) than a high side (flip over the top) or running head on into sidings, plus it shows that you were attempting to do all you could prior to a 'moment'. It's something that comes with experiance, but I've seen it too many times. LEAN!!!!!!!!!! You've most likely got more grip than you can imagine.

And Pyro, just a quick obv - while it was good of you to stop for Ricksta (?) when we ran wide (lean dude..), you ditched your bike on the wrong side of the road on a blind corner. Really not the best idea. In the event of situations, there's no point in creating more casualties and crashes from people not thinking things thru properly. I know you wanted to help, but you're no good if you're plastered over the front of an oncoming car.. Just breathe and think a little more before hand. But good for stopping.

Please watch out guys.. Newbies, ride in your shoes, not someone else's. It takes a long time on the saddle to fill boots to go fast. Grow into yours at your pace, not at someone else's. 9 times out of 10, you'll fuck up.

Anyway, don't be put off by large rides etc. It's often the best place to pick up the most skill. This has to be one of the 'worst' rides for bins that I've read about. It's not normally that eventful. The worst thing you can do is not attend these rides if you can. You'll learn more things from more people this way..

[Zed]

Reading all this has sort of put me off coming along on a KB ride...Maybe you should actually come out on a KB ride instead of reading about it then...at least then you'd be able to say "been there done that"!

There are a plenty of posts on KB that give the reader a false impression btw. :wacko: KB rides are not races!

[dangerous]

Nah mate, we didnt crash...
LMAO........ cant argue with that man :D


I was at the front of the group with MR and Vladi, I can honestly say i did not have one "moment" the whole day.
Nothing there aimed at you in the slightest fella, you may not of had a 'moment' but others did..... something we all need to think about.

ps: remember it has happened on a chch ride in the past too :drinknsin

[Zed]

just reading thru the threads and watched that vid from Pyro.

The worst thing you can do is not attend these rides if you can. You'll learn more things from more people this way..Nice speech BJ, pity you stayed up late last night and couldn't join us! :D

The way you guys are portraying these bins today is over the top, and you ones that are giving out the advice weren't even there! It's a different scene when you're actually there talking to the binner and discussing what went wrong...you wouldn't dare tell them off or make some of the comments you've said to their faces at the time.

In general, everyone had a great time on the KB ride today I'm sure. Don't take that away from us by your righteous indignation!

[johnsf1980]

Nice speech BJ, pity you stayed up late last night and couldn't join us! :D

The way you guys are portraying these bins today is over the top, and you ones that are giving out the advice weren't even there! It's a different scene when you're actually there talking to the binner and discussing what went wrong...you wouldn't dare tell them off or make some of the comments you've said to their faces at the time.

In general, everyone had a great time on the KB ride today I'm sure. Don't take that away from us by your righteous indignation!

Yeah and I thought the guys who binned were very courageous picking up their bikes and riding on :niceone:

Ive had a few bins in my time and I know what it can do to your nerve and confidence when you find yourself lying on the road! :no:

[dangerous]

In general, everyone had a great time on the KB ride today I'm sure. Don't take that away from us by your righteous indignation!
Thats a bit harsh Zed..... nobody said that they dident have 'a great time'
Now as for the other remark, well some comenting here may not have been on the ride today (me included) but why should that mean we cant comment on the situation......... ok so we dont know every detail, but we do have shit to say cos we (those not on the ride) still like to help out were we can..... you are saying we dont have the right.... sorry we bloody well do.

ps: I dont like reading about a stack... just like you dont like being involved in one, If i can say something that 'could' help out a fello rider then ill say it.

pss: Zed I relise that the above quote was not aimed at me. :niceone:

[danb]

I am still glad that I went on the ride - As far as the gravel is concerned I could have done that anywhere, Least I had people around to get the bike up on its feet, check it etc. (Thanks guys)

Will give a few people a ring regarding replacing the fairing's and shall carry on from there... My Insurance excess is 700 so it will be about that to fix it up so I shall just fork out the cash and be done with it and still have a no claims bones etc.

And now yes I can now say, "been there done that" and in which I learnt alot from today.

[Jeremy]

Yeah... danb, ricksta, me and jeremy(?) ride back on SH1... I decided to come back that way because I didnt want to deal with all the twists and turns on SH22 again!

SH1 was a sweet easy cruise :niceone:

Yip twas me. SH1 one was pretty easy, just a worrying moment when we lost ricksta. (I'll let him explain that one).


Well I thought he might like to explain it himself :)

And we were cruising along nice and easy.... I guess he just picked the wrong time to pass or didnt see the on coming truck for some reason or something!

That's also partially my fault, I could see that he was going to try and pass and I could also see the truck coming the other way. But there was no way I could catch up to where he was on my GN250 to warn him in time. The GN250 is really starting to annoy me in that respect, it just can't accelerate quickly when I need it to.

[bugjuice]

Nice speech BJ, pity you stayed up late last night and couldn't join us! :D

The way you guys are portraying these bins today is over the top, and you ones that are giving out the advice weren't even there! It's a different scene when you're actually there talking to the binner and discussing what went wrong...you wouldn't dare tell them off or make some of the comments you've said to their faces at the time.

In general, everyone had a great time on the KB ride today I'm sure. Don't take that away from us by your righteous indignation!
well, had to be said.

I have pulled up newbies for running wide before, and I'd do it again. Hell, I'll pull anyone up and find out why it happened etc. But, it's not pulling them up for a bollockin, cos that's what they don't need. It's constructive reassurance. Tell them off in a way, cos it's fukin dangerous to them and everyone around them, but go over it again with them and talk it thru. Ask them where it went wrong, why it went wrong and what they will do next time. Learn from the lesson well, don't just dismiss any 'brown pant' moments as just that.

Just watch and learn people. Don't make the same mistake twice.

[danb]

Yeah and I thought the guys who binned were very courageous picking up their bikes and riding on :niceone:

Ive had a few bins in my time and I know what it can do to your nerve and confidence when you find yourself lying on the road! :no:

When I first dropped my bike on the Driveway trying a hillstart, (Which none of you lot heard about :whistle: except affman when he saw the whole thing around here, lucky no damage as I let it down slowly etc) it put me off - Had to conquer myself and went out to clevedon and back doing the scenic route with all the twisty’s etc and that helped alot.

As for today - well i knew i had to get home somehow and that was to ride - it was a bit nervracking as i had no mirror to use mind you etc.

Shit happens -> Deal with it -> Learn from it -> Overcome it. :yes:

[Zed]

...still like to help out were we can...If i can say something that 'could' help out a fello rider then ill say it.Well that's alright then! :D

[johnsf1980]

Yip twas me. SH1 one was pretty easy, just a worrying moment when we lost ricksta. (I'll let him explain that one).


I know... In my head I was going "Fsck.... I dont want to hear that hes had a 3rd incident today!!"

[FEINT]

Yea twas a good ride apart from the gravel :mad: (Still glad I went) - I think I did reasonably well considering I have done so few km's. Got alot more work to do with my cornering. Don’t know what to do about the damage - Looking at it the Right Fairing will have to be totally replaced and a respray because of the different colour my bike is. Front Faring well its will need at least painting and a little bit of plastic welding. Ohh and then there is the helmet that got scratched both on the visor and the helmet is self. Least I did not get damaged (this time) :D .
Any suggestions on wether I should claim this under insurance for what has been done? – Need to find out what me excess is…

If someone can shove the pics up that would be good.

oh no no you didn't!!!!!!! you crashed my previous bike? :no: :no: :no: From the sounds of it, some of you had a good ride and some of you others didn't. You all should be very grateful that nothing more serious happened.

Ride safe. Myself and Madmax headed up SH1 from Pukekohe... good short ride, pity we couldn't go down SH22

[Sheep Dags]

Hey,
I was involved in one of the crashes today. I don't really know much about the other 3 crashes, but it does sound like they could have been avoided with some experience. As Bugjuice says, you have to learn how to lean and learn where your limits are, and maybe inexperience was at fault with these ones. I dunno, i wasn't there.
Yes, 5 crashes sounds really bad, and 0 would have been much better number but sometimes these things happen.

My 'incident' was a little different than the other 3. I'd like to think I'm capable of knowing my own limits, and for the first 5 hours or so of the day, i had no "close calls" or whatever, i had a great time!
Anyway I don't really want to go into details but our group wasn't doing anything outside of our own limits and I'm sure the other guys could back me up here. I figure we were just a bit unlucky, and in hinesight maybe i could have made a different decision in the split second that i had - e.g. do what Matthew did!! - but i suppose i'm lucky and can learn from that.
For now, I'm taking it easy. Gonna leave my bike alone for a few months.

Anyway thanks for the great day guys, it was awesome!
- Mike

[bugjuice]

SD, don't know what happened on yours. I hope you're ok and that the bike can be fixed.
But get back on dude. You can't let it rest now, else you'll probably never ride again, or really badly for a while.
What's the saying - get back on the horse.. Doesn't mean you have to ride like a loon again, just take it easy, but stopping/having a break isn't the answer. It'll plague you're nuggin for ages and only get worse. For your sake, hope you don't.

[Zed]

...Doesn't mean you have to ride like a loon again...Hmmm I have a problem with that huge exaggeration! Didn't you read what SD said?? -



Anyway I don't really want to go into details but our group wasn't doing anything outside of our own limits and I'm sure the other guys could back me up here

[danb]

oh no no you didn't!!!!!!! you crashed my previous bike? :no: :no: :no: From the sounds of it, some of you had a good ride and some of you others didn't. You all should be very grateful that nothing more serious happened.


LOL was waiting for that post.

[Zed]

For now, I'm taking it easy. Gonna leave my bike alone for a few months.

Anyway thanks for the great day guys, it was awesome!
- MikeGood onya Mike! Was good riding with you today. The last couple of rides I've been on I recall you keeping up well on that 400 of yours, you have plenty of natural talent there! :Punk:


Take care,

Matthew

[justsomeguy]

I am still glad that I went on the ride - As far as the gravel is concerned I could have done that anywhere, Least I had people around to get the bike up on its feet, check it etc. (Thanks guys)



That's the beauty about KB group rides. We not only have great mates.

But as you saw today professional ambulance officers. And mechanical whizzes too..... there;s all sorts.

Death and Draco God Bless You.

And remember most of the faster riders here have crashed a lot.

So you can learn and laugh at their stories, instead of crying over yours.

[Sheep Dags]

SD, don't know what happened on yours. I hope you're ok and that the bike can be fixed.
But get back on dude. You can't let it rest now, else you'll probably never ride again, or really badly for a while.
What's the saying - get back on the horse.. Doesn't mean you have to ride like a loon again, just take it easy, but stopping/having a break isn't the answer. It'll plague you're nuggin for ages and only get worse. For your sake, hope you don't.


Hey thanks for advice Bugjuice. Yea it's my first crash so I've had plenty of time to think hard. I'll definately take your advice into consideration. I'm considering all points of view at the moment!
The damage to the VFR isn't too bad. Definately fixable anyway. Hope I'm not too sore in the morning! :-p

[pyrocam]

I can say this,
apart from a few stupid mistakes on my part (when I got separated from any packs) I had a great tme doing the 22 on the down run. its a whole lot different from doing it on the way back.

I still stand by my point that I dont think the 22 should be done by noobs. for the reasons:
lets say you ARE following an experience 22 rider, you may attempt to do the same lines and speeds that your are not comfortable
the curves are VERY deceiving like you may have seen in my 'badcorner.avi' video


when I am with a group, I feel more confident because I have someone infront of me who wil slow down on a tricky corner or a gravel patch

and here is the thing which is the hardest to say as a noob

I know that I am a noob, but when I see someone (not nessesarily on the 22) I automatically want to keep up / race them which perhaps is my personality.

I other words. people are starting to recognise me as a member of the site and in rides, yet the rides that I partake myself on, I feel the urge to catchup/ keepup with the riders in front of me.

do other bikers remember their noob days and the urges to chase a bike thats just passed you on the motorwat? its hard for me to resisr.

[justsomeguy]

do other bikers remember their noob days and the urges to chase a bike thats just passed you on the motorwat? its hard for me to resisr.

Yup, I'm with you. And that is fine.

But if you can't control yourself. Do this: Look at the road and ride as fast as you can looking at the road. DO NOT look at the bike in front.

That way at least you will know that the sign said 45kmph and that it is a left hand downward slopping corner with 1 second forward visibility.

Instead of going, "Oh he took that corner at 100kmph. I should be ok at 80kmph."

[justsomeguy]

What the?? Death wasnt even there and gets a thanks!!.. not even.. a God Bless actually oww

nah, matey

Andy drove all the way from his home to the middle of 22 to trailer the (former) bikes(1,2,3) back to their current resting places.

And he kindly welded my foot peg fragments back together for me last week.

[2_SL0]

I know that I am a noob, but when I see someone (not nessesarily on the 22) I automatically want to keep up / race them which perhaps is my personality.

I other words. people are starting to recognise me as a member of the site and in rides, yet the rides that I partake myself on, I feel the urge to catchup/ keepup with the riders in front of me.

do other bikers remember their noob days and the urges to chase a bike thats just passed you on the motorwat? its hard for me to resisr.

Forget this idea of "Catching Up" It will only lead to one of those "Magic Moments"
I once ran very late for a ride, my wife was worried I was going to try and "Catch UP"
I told here straight, the speed at which they ride at and the speed I ride at. There is no point in "catching up"
They will eventually stop and wait. Its as simple as that. I ride at my pace, if its to slow for someone else, they can indicate and overtake me, I dont see that as a personal insult to my ability. (Though I do lack ability) Riding in a group takes some self control.
Do you want to be the last person to arrive, OR the wally that didnt get round the corner. No one will care much about the last person to arrive :whocares: , the guy who didnt get round the corner however is something else. :no: :whistle: :nono:

[Mr Skid]

lets say you ARE following an experience 22 rider, you may attempt to do the same lines and speeds that your are not comfortable
the curves are VERY deceiving like you may have seen in my 'badcorner.avi' video
I think that calling it a bad corner is being disengenuous. I've watched the video about 10 times, and experience tells me from seeing that corner that it tightens.

It sure as hell makes you feel better if you can blame a mistake on the road conditions / road engineering / leading rider, but the simple fact is this: Blame won't mend broken bones.



I know that I am a noob, but when I see someone (not nessesarily on the 22) I automatically want to keep up / race them which perhaps is my personality.
do other bikers remember their noob days and the urges to chase a bike thats just passed you on the motorwat? its hard for me to resisr.
I don't know what your doing trying to chase another bike on the motorway. There is far too much enforcement occuring on the motorway to speed safely. Also, I assume you are still on your learners? If so, get pinged for 121km/h and your 51 km/h over your limit. Kiss that licence goodbye!

I know what you mean about wanting to keep up. I've felt the same need, and paid a not insubstantial price.

If you think your personality is getting you in trouble on a bike, then I think you need to contemplate whether you are suitable to ride bikes, and if so what sort of bike and in what circumstances.

Riding sports bikes isn't your only option.

[bugjuice]

Hmmm I have a problem with that huge exaggeration! Didn't you read what SD said?? -
point taken. Was a real bad use of terms. I didn't mean that SD was riding like a mentalist.

[Zapf]

Sorry matey...... yup it was you.

Yeah, too much braking while the bike was (relatively for me) leant over and it got pretty unstable. Managed to correct it quickly and safely but there was a good second or two of "oh feck" sentiments there. Especially with a faster rider sitting behind me waiting to pass.

sounds like you might be wanting a CB400 now :) its a very stable little bike.... I just rode a few k's standing up the on the pegs.... and its damm stable :) yet very flickable...

[Sheep Dags]

point taken. Was a real bad use of terms. I didn't mean that SD was riding like a mentalist.


I didn't take it like that anywayz
I must admit, I've done what these other guys say, within the first 6 months of owning a bike i ran a corner REAL wide. I stopped and thought very seriously about it and i never wanted to do that again, so have 'pretty much' always ridden within my limits since then.
The thing is with yesterday, was that yes we were riding at a pace, but if we wanted to be silly, we could have tried to keep up with 2 smoker and motoracer, but that's just fuckin stupid!


Fuck I'll tell you what, I didn't get too much sleep last night! i couldn't find the right position cause whatever position i slept in, something hurt! ...and this morning! oh man i'm sore! gonna go get myself checked out just in case.

be cool homies :-p

[justsomeguy]

sounds like you might be wanting a CB400 now :) its a very stable little bike.... I just rode a few k's standing up the on the pegs.... and its damm stable :) yet very flickable...

No I like my crappy handling ZZR. If I can learn to ride that gutless wonder fast - I can ride anything fast.

I've riden Erik's bike which is similar in seating position and handling to your bike. It is too easy to ride, wont really improve someone like me.:no:

Then in March 06 I will be buying the mintestest ZXR400 I can find.:yes:

[justsomeguy]

I didn't take it like that anywayz
I must admit, I've done what these other guys say, within the first 6 months of owning a bike i ran a corner REAL wide. I stopped and thought very seriously about it and i never wanted to do that again, so have 'pretty much' always ridden within my limits since then.
The thing is with yesterday, was that yes we were riding at a pace, but if we wanted to be silly, we could have tried to keep up with 2 smoker and motoracer, but that's just fuckin stupid!


Fuck I'll tell you what, I didn't get too much sleep last night! i couldn't find the right position cause whatever position i slept in, something hurt! ...and this morning! oh man i'm sore! gonna go get myself checked out just in case.

be cool homies :-p

There was you Swanny and who's the other guy??

Keep us updated SD. And get some R&R. Thank God you can sleep in whole of Sunday before work - whatever. Another plus point of Saturday rides.

[pyrocam]

I think that calling it a bad corner is being disengenuous. I've watched the video about 10 times, and experience tells me from seeing that corner that it tightens.

It sure as hell makes you feel better if you can blame a mistake on the road conditions / road engineering / leading rider, but the simple fact is this: Blame won't mend broken bones.



I don't know what your doing trying to chase another bike on the motorway. There is far too much enforcement occuring on the motorway to speed safely. Also, I assume you are still on your learners? If so, get pinged for 121km/h and your 51 km/h over your limit. Kiss that licence goodbye!

I know what you mean about wanting to keep up. I've felt the same need, and paid a not insubstantial price.

If you think your personality is getting you in trouble on a bike, then I think you need to contemplate whether you are suitable to ride bikes, and if so what sort of bike and in what circumstances.

Riding sports bikes isn't your only option.

the choice of badcorner.avi was meant to apply I did the corner badly not that it was a 'naughty corner'

I mentioned it was hard to resist trying to keep up with the lane splitting people on the MW but on the way to the AB I did manage to just think to myself, "Im very early, Im not in a hurry, he is proberly not going there anyway" and stay in my lane

What I mean is. its hard, not impossible. :)

Thanks for your thoughts thou

[Madmax]

mabey we should take the new guys out to kawakawa bay
see who is up to going through the tight bits ahead of time and do the loop.
just a thought
:niceone:

[Krayy]

Hey guys,

FWIW I thought the nobs did quite well. I decided to hang back and ride with them, as there was no-one else looking to do it and I was still running in the Sport Demons (taint no "Chicken Strips" on those feckers now), so I was quite happy to amble along at 80-90 and keep an eye on them. All in all, I'd say they did alright.

DanB is doing okay, just needs to get a little more confidence in the corners, but his one fault that I did pick up on (as did everyone else) is that he had a slight lack of "surface awareness". Braking in loose gravel isn't the best mate (piccie to follow in the Pics thread of the aftermath). And whats with Waikato councils stupid "hide the roadworks" game? Some of those weren't signposted at all and some were posted about 5 metres from the loose crap.

Ricksta, Ricksta, Ricksta. Oh dear, where do we begin. The off after the stop where DanB came a cropper was pretty much the same as what happened last week. Lean boy!! Otherwise, you're doing okay, just seriously consider getting the safety gear that I mentioned ASAP. As a refresher it was:

- High Boots: sneakers are not good to ride in. Soles can get ripped off, ankles have no support and can break, shins not protected etc

- Armoured pants: make sure you get ones with hip pads, knee armour, reinforced arse etc

- Pack rack: this one I think should be a must for anyone who carries a lot of gear. If you have stuff in a backpack and it moves when you're in a corner, the centre of gravity shifts and can low side you quite happily. Get your hevy bits (cameras, clothing, etc) on a rack and strap it down tight to stop it moving.

Last but not least (and this goes to al noobs), GET ON A HANDLING COURSE ASAP. The Bronz (www.bronz.org.nz) Ride Right, Ride Safe course kicks arse and is cheap to boot. Some of the commercial courses are very good (John wotsizname) but some are average to say the least (Passrite anyone?).

[chickenfunkstar]

This was the 2nd time i've ridden SH22, its certainly an interesting road.
I had a really good day up untill the drama about half way up SH22 on the way back.
Thanks MR for organising the day.
FWIW I don't reckon that any of the incidents were in any way fault.

Paul (CBR250RR) and I got back to Auckland fine.
I saw him yesterday, he's OK, just a bit of a sore sholder.

[Captain]

[QUOTE=Motoracer]So, how about it folks?

It'll be a Kiwibiker ride like the old times down SH22 to the BP in Narawahia and we can decide how long we want to make it depending on the conditions etc after lunch.

Hi all, this is my first posting here so if I screw it up, be nice. Wan't to give many thanks to those who orginised the ride on the 14th. My mate and I saw bikes heading south and hooked up with you lot at the BP. Excellant ride and well organised. From a new arrival to the scene perspective it was awsome to see such a selection of riders and machines. I havn't been on two wheels long so it was also nice to see that when someone managed to make a mistake and ditch their machine that lots run to give assistance.

All good and will be doing it again. Hope to see you arround. :niceone:

[justsomeguy]

[QUOTE=Motoracer]So, how about it folks?

It'll be a Kiwibiker ride like the old times down SH22 to the BP in Narawahia and we can decide how long we want to make it depending on the conditions etc after lunch.

Hi all, this is my first posting here so if I screw it up, be nice. Wan't to give many thanks to those who orginised the ride on the 14th. My mate and I saw bikes heading south and hooked up with you lot at the BP. Excellant ride and well organised. From a new arrival to the scene perspective it was awsome to see such a selection of riders and machines. I havn't been on two wheels long so it was also nice to see that when someone managed to make a mistake and ditch their machine that lots run to give assistance.

All good and will be doing it again. Hope to see you arround. :niceone:

Welcome capt -- see you around.

[Motoracer]

Hey guys,

FWIW I thought the nobs did quite well. I decided to hang back and ride with them, as there was no-one else looking to do it and I was still running in the Sport Demons (taint no "Chicken Strips" on those feckers now), so I was quite happy to amble along at 80-90 and keep an eye on them. All in all, I'd say they did alright.

DanB is doing okay, just needs to get a little more confidence in the corners, but his one fault that I did pick up on (as did everyone else) is that he had a slight lack of "surface awareness". Braking in loose gravel isn't the best mate (piccie to follow in the Pics thread of the aftermath). And whats with Waikato councils stupid "hide the roadworks" game? Some of those weren't signposted at all and some were posted about 5 metres from the loose crap.

Ricksta, Ricksta, Ricksta. Oh dear, where do we begin. The off after the stop where DanB came a cropper was pretty much the same as what happened last week. Lean boy!! Otherwise, you're doing okay, just seriously consider getting the safety gear that I mentioned ASAP. As a refresher it was:

- High Boots: sneakers are not good to ride in. Soles can get ripped off, ankles have no support and can break, shins not protected etc

- Armoured pants: make sure you get ones with hip pads, knee armour, reinforced arse etc

- Pack rack: this one I think should be a must for anyone who carries a lot of gear. If you have stuff in a backpack and it moves when you're in a corner, the centre of gravity shifts and can low side you quite happily. Get your hevy bits (cameras, clothing, etc) on a rack and strap it down tight to stop it moving.

Last but not least (and this goes to al noobs), GET ON A HANDLING COURSE ASAP. The Bronz (www.bronz.org.nz (http://www.bronz.org.nz/)) Ride Right, Ride Safe course kicks arse and is cheap to boot. Some of the commercial courses are very good (John wotsizname) but some are average to say the least (Passrite anyone?).

Great post man. Max respect goes out to you for helping and staying with the n00bs on Saturday! :niceone:

[Krayy]

Great post man. Max respect goes out to you for helping and staying with the n00bs on Saturday! :niceone:
Thanks for that. I have the warm fuzzies now :D

[wkid_one]

Interesting thread.

As I posted on another thread - if you feel compelled to 'keep up' with faster riders and this results in you exceeding your limits - you have no one else to blame other than yourself if you fall off (or worse).

It is anyone's personal choice to ride fast.....shit next you will be wanting MotoGP banned as all these noobs will go out and try and replicate it on the street. Fuck - assume some personal accountability for once.

People that succumb to this are the same people who had their first puff of pot 'coz all their friends made them'.

I make no apologies for saying - if you die because you choose to outride your limits in a vain attempt to prove you were a good rider by keeping up with someone who is better than you, and you can't just admit it and ride to your own abilities - you have no-one to blame other than yourself. No one else is twisting your throttle.

When MR, TS, WT, me or whoever ride quick - you make a personal choice to accept the consequences for themselves. As does anyone else that does it. If you can't exercise will power...sell your fucken bike (i can say this, because i couldn't and did).

On every group ride I have been on - it is explicitly pointed out to 'ride at your own pace'.

MR - don't fucken listen to them - ride the fucken pants off your bike....just look after yourself and stay rubber side down (or at least say 45-50deg to the road anyway)

[Motoracer]

MR - don't fucken listen to them - ride the fucken pants off your bike....just look after yourself and stay rubber side down (or at least say 45-50deg to the road anyway)

Cheers man.

I'd like to think that I am fairly open minded and I wouldn't have stood my ground so strongly or I would have questioned myself more if it wasn't for the tons of PM's and phone calls (the next day) and the support in the threads from pretty much everyone who was in that ride and who has seen me ride on the road and my group rides and plus some who have understood what went down just from the net only. Even the people who crashed reckoned that once they are sused, they would like to come and ride with us again!

Funnily enough, all the critics have been:

A: People who weren't on the ride.
B: Haven't seen me ride on the road or been to any of my rides.

That was enough for me to stand my ground, I think.

Anyway, as I said in the other post, what's been and done is over. We all learnt our lessions which is the most important part.

[dangerous]

Funnily enough, all the critics have been:

A: People who weren't on the ride.
B: Haven't seen me ride on the road or been to any of my rides.

That was enough for me to stand my ground, I think.
I never knew this thread had anything more to do with you as it does any other rider on that ride that day..... how come you are so special :msn-wink:

[justsomeguy]

I never knew this thread had anything more to do with you as it does any other rider on that ride that day..... how come you are so special :msn-wink:

Yeah MR why does it all have to be about you???:devil2:


:whistle:

[Motoracer]

I never knew this thread had anything more to do with you as it does any other rider on that ride that day..... how come you are so special :msn-wink:

Hey man, at this stage there is too much stuff, both in this thread and the other one. There is so much that was said that for anyone it is too dificult too make sence of it all now.

Basically what started from an acusation (which is now resolved since both parties have now appologised to each other via PMs), a long heated descussion was formed. It was obviously fueld with a lot of emotion from the recent loss of our mate Flyin and the fact that I was the organiser and was the person in question because of that (not in this thread but the other one).

I for one will admit that though I may not have been questioned personally as much as I thought I was being questioned in my mind, I probably got emotional about it, as normally you already feel guilty and responcible as an organiser wether you are at fault or not. Whitetrash knows this feeling when he organised that Welly ride the Easter before last and there were a few crashes there as well. He was vunerable just as I was to accusations and he did get emotional back then just as I did.

Now everyone has calm down and come to their sences including me. There really isn't anymore to be said and my previous post in this thread was my final concluesion for the whole matter. I wasn't going to post anything else but I thought it would have been rude not to answer your question.

MR.

[White trash]

Whitetrash knows this feeling when he organised that Welly ride the Easter before last and there were a few crashes there as well. He was vunerable just as I was to accusations and he did get emotional back then just as I did.



Vulnerable? Emotional?

You sure we're talking about the same Trash mate?

[justsomeguy]

I wasn't going to post anything else but I thought it would have been rude not to answer your question.

MR.

That wasn't a question, it was a pt

[justsomeguy]

Vulnerable? Emotional?

You sure we're talking about the same Trash mate?

You ain't going ghey on us are ya??????????:whistle:

[Motoracer]

Vulnerable? Emotional?

You sure we're talking about the same Trash mate?

I've got better memory than you, bitch!

[Motoracer]

That wasn't a question, it was a pt

He asked the same question before as well in this thread and though it might have been semi-PT this time round, I think D was just wondering why there was so much hype about "MR". Which is why I explained...

[dangerous]

Hey man, I wasn't going to post anything else but I thought it would have been rude not to answer your question.
MR.
and cheers for that..... it does answer the question :niceone:


That wasn't a question, it was a pt
No... well a wee bit


He asked the same question before
though it might have been semi-PT this time round
I think D was just wondering why there was so much hype about "MR". Which is why I explained...
you are on to it mate....... :drinknsin

[pyrocam]

can ppl who witnessed the crashes for this event pls PM me.

especially one involving a blue 1000cc bike ? which I never heard of.

[chickenfunkstar]

can ppl who witnessed the crashes for this event pls PM me.

especially one involving a blue 1000cc bike ? which I never heard of.

Why?
You could probably find out a reasonable amount by reading previous posts.

[pyrocam]

Why?
You could probably find out a reasonable amount by reading previous posts.

youd find out if you PM'd me :)