Date of new bike rego charges?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Here's the thing: I need to register the bike on 20 January. If the criminal masterminds at ACC have their way the rego fees are going up from their already too expensive state to an even more expensive state. My thought was that if the effective date for the increase was, say, 1 June 2010, then I would register the old girl now for three months or whatever, then when it was due, get it for a year at the lower rate prior to the increase.

It might save me a hundy or so. Enough for a pizza and couple of beers anyway. Or a trackday or something.

But I can't find anywhere when the new ripoffs come into effect: presumably I am not searching on the correct terms. Anyone know?

[danchop]

1/7/2010,so register your bike to expire about 25 june then register it for 15months

[HenryDorsetCase]

1/7/2010,so register your bike to expire about 25 june then register it for 15months

Bingo. Thanks for that.

[crazyhorse]

1/7/2010,so register your bike to expire about 25 june then register it for 15months

I thought 12 months was the maximum...?

[yachtie10]

15 months is the maximum
if you wait till then they may have already put up the fee i.e. the fee will be charged pro rata
I am in the same position and i am thinking if I am going to pay it pay 15 months now to be safe

[YellowDog]

That's quite quite lucky, mine's 28 May :)

[BigOne]

and what is more, there is a special form at the Postshop called an MR27, which anyone can use to CHANGE the date their re-registration falls due. My renewal date was 27 July.
I too was concerned that as soon as the new charges are promulgated, there will be a pro-rata charge for the part of the rego AFTER 1 July, so I changed my date to 15 jan and took out 15 months.

However, I will be checking in the last week of June to see what the story is then, and if it's not pro-rata, I will be re-changing my date to last day in June, and taking out 15 months from then.

I can't imagine they won't fix this loop-hole sometime between now and 1 July, though.

[YellowDog]

I don't think they'll close the loop-hole.

All this extra cash they'll be getting paid in advance will be just what they want and when the renewals come up the following year the board of ACC will be able to pay themselves obscene bonuses based upon their outstanding performance improvement.
(stealing our cash)

[davebullet]

Like most computer systems, it will be so hard coded and fucked up that to implement pro-rata will take far too long and be way too costly. Basically, if the computer system doesn't currently support mid term increases, then it won't be implemented for this one.

[trailblazer]

sweet mines dew on the 15/8/2010 so i will just get it a month earlier.

[TimeOut]

OK so mine's due in August, can I register (earlier) in June for 15 months?

[trailblazer]

can.t see why not you can for a car so can.t see it being any differant.

[BigOne]

OK so mine's due in August, can I register (earlier) in June for 15 months?

Exactly. Fill out the MR27 for a date late in June, the computer calculates the partial refund, and you pay the difference.

pass the word.

[Jizah]

So if mine expires March 22, it would be best for me to put 3 months on until June 22, then put 15 months on from there?

[Silage]

I have just picked up the MR27 forms and it is clearly stated on them that you cannot bring your date forward (ie to fall before 1 July). To quote the form:

"The new licence expiry date cannot be prior to the current licence expiry date or more than 15 months from the date of application"

So where your current licence falls before 1 July, then it looks a great idea to use the MR27 to reset the date to just before 1 July and then when that is due to expire to reset the date again to 15months forward from then. It would seem that if your current license falls after 30 June then there is not much you can do - at least not by changing the date forward. (sorry if this repeats the above but I was a little confused how this worked).

On the on-line licence renewal page (ie https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/RenewVehicleLicence/entry.aspx ) then the only relicencing periods allowed are for 3, 6 and 12 months. It seems that it is only through the change date option (ie MR27) you can get 15 months.

[EDIT] Correction If your current licence expires after 30 June then while you cannot bring the date forward using the MR27 you can wait until late June and then use the form to extend your licence period 15months from that date - same effect.
OK so I am a bit thick as this is essentially explained above and I didn't get it but in case one other person also didn't get it ...
Thanks to http://www.special-solutions.net/bikes/html/club_stuff.html that put me right.

[yachtie10]

Like most computer systems, it will be so hard coded and fucked up that to implement pro-rata will take far too long and be way too costly. Basically, if the computer system doesn't currently support mid term increases, then it won't be implemented for this one.

See your point, but not sure if i agree
increase is approx $150 approx 100,000 bikers thats 15 million dollars there potentially missing out on (yes i know its not that much in reality)

unless its been coded by dickheads its a few lines of code to change
second thoughts why am I attempting to encourage this, hope you are right

[marine0089]

See your point, but not sure if i agree
increase is approx $150 approx 100,000 bikers thats 15 million dollars there potentially missing out on (yes i know its not that much in reality)

unless its been coded by dickheads its a few lines of code to change
second thoughts why am I attempting to encourage this, hope you are right


I'd say it'd be more of a time vs hassel thing.

I work in the IT industry and it takes a freaking age to get any new coding changes out to production. This is multiplied tenfold if the system is a large one spread over many locations.

Will be interesting to keep an eye on though.

[danchop]

i am fairly sure if you have a rego sticker on your bike now and the expiry is anything after 30/6/2010 your fucked and no matter what your now in the new fee zone

[trailblazer]

went into AA today and they said that you can put 12 months rego on bike if your date is after 1 of july but only if it is under 3months left on your rego and the date strts from your original date.

[BigOne]

I have just picked up the MR27 forms and it is clearly stated on them that you cannot bring your date forward (ie to fall before 1 July). To quote the form:

"The new licence expiry date cannot be prior to the current licence expiry date or more than 15 months from the date of application"

So where your current licence falls before 1 July, then it looks a great idea to use the MR27 to reset the date to just before 1 July and then when that is due to expire to reset the date again to 15months forward from then. It would seem that if your current license falls after 30 June then there is not much you can do - at least not by changing the date forward. (sorry if this repeats the above but I was a little confused how this worked).

On the on-line licence renewal page (ie https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/RenewVehicleLicence/entry.aspx ) then the only relicencing periods allowed are for 3, 6 and 12 months. It seems that it is only through the change date option (ie MR27) you can get 15 months.

True

[EDIT] Correction If your current licence expires after 30 June then while you cannot bring the date forward using the MR27 you can wait until late June and then use the form to extend your licence period 15months from that date - same effect.
OK so I am a bit thick as this is essentially explained above and I didn't get it but in case one other person also didn't get it ...
Thanks to http://www.special-solutions.net/bikes/html/club_stuff.html that put me right.

Well, whatever the form says, my expiry was 27 July. I saw that it said "
"The new licence expiry date cannot be prior to the current licence expiry date or more than 15 months from the date of application"

but I still managed to change my expiry date to the current date, a few days ago in Jan, to 15 months out, April 2011. I got a partial refund for the period now till mid-July, and paid for 15mnths at the CURRENT rate. And I plan on trying the same thing again in late June.

[BASS-TREBLE]

I've tried to get my head around it all by re-reading the thread, but my rego expires on the 22/1/10,

Will I be able to get a 5 month rego? Or is it only 3,6,12,15 month periods?

[Silage]

I've tried to get my head around it all by re-reading the thread, but my rego expires on the 22/1/10, Will I be able to get a 5 month rego? Or is it only 3,6,12,15 month periods?

From what I understand, you can use the standard relisensing form and get up to 12 months relisensing period (not 15 months) BUT with the MR27 you could for instance
1) reset your license due date to say 20 June 2010
2) then on or around 20 June use another MR27 form to set your lisense date out 15 months ie to about September 2011.

All of this should be at the current lisensing rate nad none at the new "enhanced" rate provided the powers that be don't change the rules.

[marine0089]

Mine expires 23rd Feb

So I could chuck 3 months on it to take it to 23rd of May then chuck on 15 more after that?

Just out of interest, how much would that really be saving? 12 months for my 250 is $321.24 (doesn't have a 15 month option online for checking purposes).

How much will that go up to after the 1st July?