NZ SBK Rnd 1 Results/Updates

[Tony.OK]

The guys at www.nzsbk.co.nz are doing a great job keeping the news flowing throughout the race weekends.

Check out the site to get the latest info on whats going on

http://nzsbk.blogspot.com/2010/01/stroud-and-cole-lead-charge-in-premier.html

Sounds like the series is going to be a cracker............:yes:

[White trash]

Here's hoping Choppa can maintain the awesome pace shown thus far when if those south island tracks ever dry out. Also hope Craig can find some, looks like a mare of a weekend for him and Hayden.

That's the problem with a 10 race series, 1 bad result and you're fucked.

[Tony.OK]

Here's hoping Choppa can maintain the awesome pace shown thus far when if those south island tracks ever dry out. Also hope Craig can find some, looks like a mare of a weekend for him and Hayden.

That's the problem with a 10 race series, 1 bad result and you're fucked.

Yeah something about the South that doesn't like the Honda's.................+1 for Chop, love to see an underdog up at the front.

[gids]

Be good to see a non-Suzuki win some races....

[Deano]

Looks like I'm out $10. Double or nothing for the Manfeild Round Ken ? :innocent:

[KS34]

Looks like I'm out $10. Double or nothing for the Manfeild Round Ken ? :innocent:

Sounds like a deal....Craig is quick at Manfield but I have all the faith in the world in the Suzuki boys! When was the last time another brand won the series?

[Deano]

.Craig is quick at Manfield

That's what I'm counting on.

[White trash]

Tony Rees, Yamaha. After Stroud lost points for passing under yellows in one of the races.

Stroud then fought the decision in court for months and eventually had his points reinstated, regaining the championship. Rees then took the oportunity to retire from Superbike racing as he wasn't interested in political bullshit such as that.

For my mind, he still won it.

Fuck knows when a Honda last won though, has it actually happened?

[scrivy]

Tony Rees, Yamaha. After Stroud lost points for passing under yellows in one of the races. 'Allegedly' passing...... http://www.sportstribunal.org.nz/decisions-05/stroud-provisional-decision.pdf

Stroud then fought the decision in court for months and eventually had his points reinstated, regaining the championship. Rees then took the oportunity to retire from Superbike racing as he wasn't interested in political bullshit such as that.

(Or maybe being treated unfairly either.....)


For my mind, he still won it.

Fuck knows when a Honda last won though, has it actually happened?


Sometimes all the facts need to be on the table so others can make a non-judgemental decision......

[Shaun]

Sometimes all the facts need to be on the table so others can make a non-judgemental decision......


exactually, and I witnessed Andrew Pass Tony before the cones! NOT after them, It was up to Tony to be honest about it really

[White trash]

Sometimes all the facts need to be on the table so others can make a non-judgemental decision......


exactually, and I witnessed Andrew Pass Tony before the cones! NOT after them, It was up to Tony to be honest about it really

I stand corrected. And Tony was honest about it by the look of the Tribunal findings.

[scrivy]

exactually, and I witnessed Andrew Pass Tony before the cones! NOT after them, It was up to Tony to be honest about it really

I witnessed the same actions. Tony simply did neither confirm nor deny - as I guess any racer would.

[Billy]

I witnessed the same actions. Tony simply did neither confirm nor deny - as I guess any racer would.And what a complete joke that whole fiasco was,Since when do cones ensure a downed riders safety,A yellow flag is a yellow flag and should be adhered to.Stroudy should have not only been disqualified for putting others safety at risk,He should have had his licence removed for a determined period.A classic example as to why Car club officials should NOT be allowed to officiate at motorcycle events,Murray Starnes (Manawatu car club president and clerk of the course on that day)Had shown a complete lack of understanding at previous motorcycle events he had officiated at

[scrivy]

And what a complete joke that whole fiasco was,Since when do cones ensure a downed riders safety,A yellow flag is a yellow flag and should be adhered to.Stroudy should have not only been disqualified for putting others safety at risk,He should have had his licence removed for a determined period.A classic example as to why Car club officials should NOT be allowed to officiate at motorcycle events,Murray Starnes (Manawatu car club president and clerk of the course on that day)Had shown a complete lack of understanding at previous motorcycle events he had officiated at

Good call Billy about Car club officianados. Unfortunately at riders briefing we were all told that the no passing rule under a yellow flag was only to be adhered to if done after the cones at the entry to corners. We were also told to go and inspect where those cones were on our practices. There was alot of discussion from riders about how it was going to work. If there was an issue about the cones, then it should have been rectified at riders briefing. It wasn't. I would like to think that MNZ had approved the supplementary regulations prior to them being issued????? Especially if they were so different than what was currently accepted by all the riders. There was also alot of talk from competitors after the riders briefing about being able to overtake prior to the cones, without any consequences - some people thought it was a hell of a joke. For my 2 cents worth, Stroudy was following the rules on the day to the letter. He knew and understood the rule clearly. I think you are being harsh in your attack on Andrew. Even after the event, there were still competitors that were unsure about the supplementary rules.
If anyone should have been persecuted so intensely as you mention, it should have been the people that brought in the ridiculous rule change for this one event. Safety was obviously not a factor in instigating the change!

Scrivy

[jellywrestler]

Be good to see a non-Suzuki win some races....
shame gareth jones isn't on a yamaha there really...
shirriffs lost a visor in the first race which was a bloody shame really and there were two hondas on the front row after qualifying well but it wasn't to be hondas day

[CHOPPA]

I dont know anything about that incident but i think the yellow flag rule in general needs to be looked at, there needs to be something with say a stationary flag to say someone has crashed but there is no real need to slow down just be a bit carefull and you can still pass lappers but not for position and then maybe a waived yellow and that means slow down and be real carefull and no passing even lappers theres prob gonna be a red anyway....

At the moment i cant imagine in any form of m/c racing your gonna see the guy in front follow a guy being lapped who has slowed down thats already 10secs a lap slower then him for a whole section of yellow. Another flag should also be used like a blue flag on the first lap of practice, no one really obeys the rules of a yellow on the first lap and its sorta being used for the wrong purpose and if someone does crash like at the nats on the weekend your not expecting to see an R1 laying in the middle of the track... Of coarse i was ready because i was obeying the flag....

[Billy]

Good call Billy about Car club officianados. There was also alot of talk from competitors after the riders briefing about being able to overtake prior to the cones, without any consequences - some people thought it was a hell of a joke. For my 2 cents worth, Stroudy was following the rules on the day to the letter. He knew and understood the rule clearly. I think you are being harsh in your attack on Andrew. Even after the event, there were still competitors that were unsure about the supplementary rules.
If anyone should have been persecuted so intensely as you mention, it should have been the people that brought in the ridiculous rule change for this one event. Safety was obviously not a factor in instigating the change!

Scrivy

I apologise if anybody saw that as a personal attack on Stroudy,The fact is I would have said the same of Tony had the positions been reversed and in fact would expect a similar penalty if I was to do the same thing