Everyone's Favourite...speeding tickets. [Archive]

meister

9th May 2005, 18:49

Sutage

9th May 2005, 18:54

That depends if your story is a crock of shit or not, if you know you were speeding, pay the fine and get over it. If you actually weren't then dispute it.

bugjuice

9th May 2005, 18:57

Why wasn't the clocks converted to kph? plenty of GSXR600s with kph on..
just something to think about, if they come back with it..
sux tho

meister

9th May 2005, 18:58

as i said, i knew i was speeding, but by the grace of god as my witness, by the same amount as everyone else, ie less than 10kmh over. i DID NOT think i was going over 110, and had no intention of it...

love the floyd quote...going to the Experience?

Coyote

9th May 2005, 18:59

Police are farking bastards when it comes to tickets, fucking wankers

Coyote

9th May 2005, 19:00

I suggest not to complain, since your a biker, you will have to pay, otherwise prepare to be called madam

SuperDave

9th May 2005, 19:02

Personally I reckon just drop it and cough up the cash. Despite all that you were going over the speed limit by 16kph, reason enough for them to ticket you. Some people are just lucky that they get off with simply writing letters.

Biff

9th May 2005, 19:03

Excuse me for being daft - but I though you said you were doing 116, yet you then state that you were going less than 10KMPH less than the limit. As the limit is 100 then you were doing 16KPH more than the limit.

I've tried the, "sorry" card to no avail. You win some you lose some. Pay up I say - lesson learnt.

Saying that - I've also neen clocked doing 130KPH + and the cop that clocked me couldn't catch me and radioed ahead for help. When an ocoming police car flashed me to pull over, I did, waited for his colleague to catch up and the pair of them admired my bike and let me off with a warning.
I think it's a Honda thing. :msn-wink:

Police are farking bastards when it comes to tickets, fucking wankers

A bit harsh mate.
Go on - tell us, what's happened to bring this out?
Personally I like cops at the moment. Until the next time.... :ride:

Sensei

9th May 2005, 19:04

Tough break dude as above pay it & make sure you are Pinned in top next time :killingme

meister

9th May 2005, 19:09

i didnt make myself clear, my explanation was in a letter...it may have been seen as "baffle them with bullshit", so be it. just sick of paying extra when we bikers pay enuff (remember the acc levy??!!)...

so be it, however in closing, "si vis pacem parabellum!"

Sutage

9th May 2005, 19:15

Ya hoping to go, i hear those guys are pretty good.

Never gonna get to see the original guys, damn roger waters i say

only 17 so i missed out on the 70s concerts, you lucky bastards!

Ramius

9th May 2005, 19:23

hey, here's one to chew on...

my bike is one of three in the country bought out by Suzuki NZ a couple of years back for some show and i bought it from a dealer a few weeks back...

i got snapped by the fuzz down taupiri way doing 116kmh and i had the right to write (repitition, as my english teacher would say) in and argue it...so, i did.

my bike is in mph, and i had the dealer put a 'white line' at 60 (around 98kmh) but i argued the fact that the guy actually put it on 65, he was taller than me, so angle of sight also contributed, and the angle of the speedo did exacerbated the problem...i then admitted that i exceeded the limit, as every kiwi rider and biker does, by what i figured to be 5-odd kms, being a quiet road so early in the morning. i did not dispute the fact i was doing 116, i plainly said i wasn't aware i was doing 116. makes sense???

so why was my lengthy explanation including maths and physics turned down when a friend on four wheels got a 124kmh ticket wiped because he was overtaking???

if there are any cops on this site, i would love to hear a reason...it surely is not because my explanation was above the mentality of those in the infringment bureau, and i am sure you are spending more time on unsolved rape cases in sth auckland, and then of course, it does take time to clear porn off your desktops...

should i take this to court? love to hear views on this...

You were speeding, pay the infringement before it goes to court or one of my compadres will be knocking on your door collecting the fine from you. And as a PS, overtaking is somewhat different, and different people different circumstances. I have had people who have not been let off for overtaking, comes down to judgement, and really, if the police have already said no to you, more than likely the JP who gets the file at court is going to say the same, so stop whining, stop speeding and pay up... :cold: I guess you could put it down to a costly lesson! :Punk:

PPS, sorry if that seemed a bit harsh, but like I am floating away on the cloud of painkillers at the moment so am a bit moody.

hondacmx450

9th May 2005, 19:24

if you speed you better be ready to out run them or hay dont speed
but hay then why do thay bring bikes into new zealand that go faster than 100 kph i will tell you why um no i dont know
pay it man cops sux and if thay want to catch me to give me a ticket there push bike better be faster than my morrison :killingme

Kwaka-Kid

9th May 2005, 19:38

nah dude, i dont think you have much chance of the excuse standing in court even. Just my personal guess.

And Alarumba - Careful dude, they are everyday wankers like you and me, they go to work, do what their told for their 8 hours, go home and ride bikes etc.

Holy Roller

9th May 2005, 19:51

Its the old user pays system
or invest in a detector

RDJ

9th May 2005, 20:22

Caught 'truly' speeding? Pay up and keep quiet.

'Falsely' accused i.e. genuinely not speeding? well - defend if you wish, but be prepared to have more aggravation than you need and still maybe lose.

2c...

k14

9th May 2005, 20:27

And Alarumba - Careful dude, they are everyday wankers like you and me, they go to work, do what their told for their 8 hours, go home and ride bikes etc.

Yep totally agree, get over yourself.

As to the ticket, just pay up, if you go to court the only thing you will end up doing is paying an extra $130 court costs ontop of the ticket you already have. Easiest way to not get tickets that i have heard is not to speed, yeah i know it sounds stupid but try it and see.

Lou Girardin

9th May 2005, 20:55

hey, here's one to chew on...

my bike is one of three in the country bought out by Suzuki NZ a couple of years back for some show and i bought it from a dealer a few weeks back...

i got snapped by the fuzz down taupiri way doing 116kmh and i had the right to write (repitition, as my english teacher would say) in and argue it...so, i did.

my bike is in mph, and i had the dealer put a 'white line' at 60 (around 98kmh) but i argued the fact that the guy actually put it on 65, he was taller than me, so angle of sight also contributed, and the angle of the speedo did exacerbated the problem...i then admitted that i exceeded the limit, as every kiwi rider and biker does, by what i figured to be 5-odd kms, being a quiet road so early in the morning. i did not dispute the fact i was doing 116, i plainly said i wasn't aware i was doing 116. makes sense???

so why was my lengthy explanation including maths and physics turned down when a friend on four wheels got a 124kmh ticket wiped because he was overtaking???

if there are any cops on this site, i would love to hear a reason...it surely is not because my explanation was above the mentality of those in the infringment bureau, and i am sure you are spending more time on unsolved rape cases in sth auckland, and then of course, it does take time to clear porn off your desktops...

should i take this to court? love to hear views on this...

You've admitted speeding. The courts are not terribly interested in why.

c4.

9th May 2005, 20:57

My personal tactic, is to pull up the very second I see a cop make the mental decision to stop me, the INSTANT he hits his lights, the second he pulls out of his hidey hole, the moment he cracks his door. I pull up, hard, and safe, jump off, or out, sun glasses/helmet off, look him in the eye, and either take my lumps, or state my case. I have about a 70% sucess for nearly the full range of variables. I've even had patrol officers thank me for braking and stopping safely straight away, from 137kms, to talk to them. (Matamata, got off!!!) Also know that when you are wrong, and dangerous, your own mama would smack yor arse. Don't whine afterwards, book it up to experience, if you never fu*ked up like you didn't want, you'd be the rider you wanna be...... Right????

Lou Girardin

9th May 2005, 20:59

Got pulled on the way to puke on sunday. Was doing 125kph on the motorway.

Cop told me to have a good day and keep the speed down a bit.
Thankyou sir.. and I was off.

There seems to be a bit of this happening lately. A change of approach perhaps? Did he know you were an Ambo person? Most of the MOT guys never booked them and it paid off for me when I left the job and an ambo turned copper caught me and let me off.

sels1

9th May 2005, 21:09

How about taking responsibility for your actions. Its your bike and you ride it. If your instruments are not right or cant been veiwed properly - its up to you to get it fixed. If you choose to speed (and most of us do sometimes :msn-wink: )and get caught, just pay the fine. Thats life.

c4.

9th May 2005, 21:10

If only fellow man insurance was more widely practised.
Do unto fellow as you would have fellow fu*k you up!!!
I don't eat sharks!!!

WINJA

9th May 2005, 21:17

WISE UP ,JUST DO A RUNNER IN FUTURE , FUCK THE PIGS , FUCK EM ALL .
THE SYSTEM IS CORUPT

chickenfunkstar

9th May 2005, 21:18

Don't think it would be worth your while,
Speeding is a strict liability offence, so even if your speeding was genuinly an accident and there was no negligence on your part, you'd still be guilty.

c'est la vie I guess.

SuperDave

9th May 2005, 21:26

so be it. just sick of paying extra when we bikers pay enuff (remember the acc levy??!!)...

But speeding fines are only compulsory if you choose for them to be :msn-wink:

Sensei

9th May 2005, 21:28

The best ones are the one you don't have to pay for . Cop going back the other way as you ride on past aline of cars & on into the sun set

c4.

9th May 2005, 21:33

The higher they make the 'speeding tax', the higher the price they will have to pay to apprehend the 'tax lawbreakers'.
My nephew tried to run the chopper outa gas, coz he was on his restricted, with 2!! cases pending (16 ). Loss of car, loss of license for 2 years, whats he gonna hang round for. C*nt had 4 others in the car, chased for 2 1/2 hours, ran 3 road blocks, beat the spike mat, stopped because he missed a corner drove of a bank, into a carpark, blew a tire.
Not supporting that little F**kwit, but, when I was younger, an same shit was goin down, they weren't trying to financially cripple me, but dad would've, an that was ok, coz I'd much rather (not) pay some fine, than be beaten with a stick.
Same at school.
Failed social experiment!!!
Less mind control, more corporal punishment!!!!

chickenfunkstar

9th May 2005, 21:33

But speeding fines are only compulsory if you choose for them to be :msn-wink:

. .
What?

c4.

9th May 2005, 21:36

My point exactly SPMDC

sels1

9th May 2005, 21:50

? Yep.. handed it over. Is that your Ambo ID there too Glen?.. yep thats it there.
Ok no worries mate, you have a good day, and try and keep the speed down .

Now there's a market......false ambo IDs! where can we buy one?? :D

Biff

9th May 2005, 22:00

Suppose I should tell the whole story.

Lucky - the last thing you need is demerit points!!

Here's a similar story courtesy of a mate of mine who is the comms officer for Greater Manchester Fire Service (UK) (cut n pasted from a recentish mail):

"...Got called to a shout (called out) on the weekend. A factory unit had gone up, and as I was on call I had to get out of my pit (bed) at 3am - fuck was I pissed off. Anyhow, I was panelling (speeding) it along Bolton Road with my blues and twos going in my Discovery and I noticed a Fed (police) traffic car up my ass. I thought he was on the same shout as me so I carried on, but wondered why this cock in a T5 didn't overtake. Anyhow 2 minutes later an on coming fed with his lighs on came towards me swerving into my lane and back out, so I slowed up then stopped, got out of my motor and this wanker of a copper, an inspector, came at me from the T5 with his fuckin baton drawn!! He was fuckin screaming at me, "Why didn't you stop?". I said I was on my way to a shout yadda yadda hence the fuckin disco lights on my motor. He didn't believe me (it didn't help that I was in my jogging botttoms as I hadn't changed!!). He was fucking furious. Asked me for my ID card and gave me a fucking lecture about speeding failing to stop and all manner of crap, even threatened to report me to my gaffer.

After 5 minutes he let me go. What a wanker......" etc etc

There's wankers on every continent and in every proffession in the world.

Bren_chch

9th May 2005, 22:16

WISE UP ,JUST DO A RUNNER IN FUTURE , FUCK THE PIGS , FUCK EM ALL .
THE SYSTEM IS CORUPT

HAHAHAHA!!! Right i know what to do next time! :Punk:

Biff

9th May 2005, 22:30

Whats similar about that story? Other than a cop was in it. Interesting it was though.

Missed the "ish" off the end of similar.

250learna

9th May 2005, 22:55

Police are farking bastards when it comes to tickets, fucking wankers

I gota disagree with that, i have had some bad experiances with cops (theres a bad seed in every profesion)...being young and driving a "sports" car. (no im not a boyreca...and you wont see me driving round with a cap and a hood on at the same time, looking like a gangster)
But Im always polite and they usualy return the favour. Ive been let off more times than ticketed in my experiance. Depends on who pools you up

Zapf

10th May 2005, 00:57

I gota disagree with that, i have had some bad experiances with cops (theres a bad seed in every profesion)...being young and driving a "sports" car. (no im not a boyreca...and you wont see me driving round with a cap and a hood on at the same time, looking like a gangster)
But Im always polite and they usualy return the favour. Ive been let off more times than ticketed in my experiance. Depends on who pools you up

I had a cop tried to give me a ticket based on the speed he needed to catch up to me when he was like 800m up the road. I was doing just under 60 in a 50 zone and i got a ticket for 80kph. I went right to court with witness and map and calculations. He didn't even show up! :no:

Krusti

10th May 2005, 06:12

Why don't you just not pay it....let your fines build up to 20+ thou then do a couple of weeks PD.:killingme

It's not the fine but the demerits that hurt:mad: Think I'm on 75 at moment...never mind

spudchucka

10th May 2005, 06:14

if there are any cops on this site, i would love to hear a reason...it surely is not because my explanation was above the mentality of those in the infringment bureau, and i am sure you are spending more time on unsolved rape cases in sth auckland, and then of course, it does take time to clear porn off your desktops...
I was going to offer a reasonable reply but then decided you don't deserve one.

speedpro

10th May 2005, 08:29

Coming back from South up the Mangaweka hill in the mighty Legnum I got pinged for 115kmh. My excuse that it was the minimum speed where the transmission would not hunt between gears wasn't good enough. Bit of a pisser actually as on the way south I had been flying in places but returning north I was generally obeying the speed limits except for the odd situation as above. Cop seemed like a decent sort apart from the giving me a ticket bit.

scumdog

10th May 2005, 09:13

Police are farking bastards when it comes to tickets, fucking wankers

Ahh, the best part is that YOU pay us - and we're fucking wankers!! :msn-wink:

scumdog

10th May 2005, 09:19

WISE UP ,JUST DO A RUNNER IN FUTURE , FUCK THE PIGS , FUCK EM ALL .
THE SYSTEM IS CORUPT ( A bit like the spelling here)

Yeah do that - every time - and when the law of averages catches up (ya can't beat that one) and you get caught/crash badly you can turn around and sue WINJA for the bad advice and make more money than the fines are worth :killingme

Like I care when somebody gets away? I still get paid each fortnight :D

zadok

10th May 2005, 10:19

While we are on the subject of revenue collecting; Do N.Z static speed cameras (called Multinova's here), only take pic's from the front, and do you have front licence plates yet?
Over here the cameras only take from the front and we don't have front licence plates, which obviously means there is nothing to fear. There is a push by the Govt to introduce front plates, but so far it hasn't happened. It doesn't help when riders go through them deliberately way over the limit giving 'the finger'.

Marty :ride:

scumdog

10th May 2005, 10:29

Lou Girardin

10th May 2005, 15:31

( A bit like the spelling here)

Yeah do that - every time - and when the law of averages catches up (ya can't beat that one) and you get caught/crash badly you can turn around and sue WINJA for the bad advice and make more money than the fines are worth :killingme

Like I care when somebody gets away? I still get paid each fortnight :D

You think he's got money?

marty

10th May 2005, 16:46

I was going to offer a reasonable reply but then decided you don't deserve one.

maybe it was that attitude that got him the ticket in the first place.

probably not a good time to tell that i got let off a 116k this morning......by someone who i had never met before. :)

Phurrball

10th May 2005, 16:48

Bad luck mesiter,

This probably doesn't help your situation, but it is an approach I have used in the past to make me feel a little better, and to make sure that the police dot all their I's and cross all their T's.

I'm not sure how you were 'snapped', but you are entitled to make sure that all the equipment used was properly calibrated and up to spec.

Tickets I have had in the past have taught me these things, all of which are information you can request:

Certificates of accuracy are issued for all police speed radars once a year, and this certificate must be up to date.

Highway patrol officers test their radar daily before they go out on the road, and record the results of this test in their log books - you can ask to see this at the road side, or request a copy. (I'm not sure if this is necessarily a legal requirement, or if general duty officers do this)

If a patrol car was used, you can request a certificate of accuracy for the speedo of that car - this is not so relevant, but police can guage your speed using their speedo - the radar, to the best of my knowledge, fires off a pulse at the ground to determine patrol car speed, rather than using the speedo.

You can certainly request copies of this information under the Official Information Act, and anything else you'd like to know (Like $$ collected by speed cameras etc if you're interested).

I'm not sure what the deal is with speed cameras, having only been snapped once (and not being too pissed, as the fine wasn't big, and the photo was hilarious) but I'm sure the equipment used is subject to similar calibration, and you could request info on this.

I suppose you could request evidence that the radar operator was trained appropriately - but that could be possibly be denied on Privacy act grounds if it identifies the individual. (Don't see why this couldn't be edited out).

I don't know if any of this is of interest to you, copies of the OIA are available at Whitcouls, and online I think - although I don't think you'd have to necessarily quote section numbers for a request to be successful - just be very specific about the information you want.

My advice from a tutor (who practices) was to pay up - as going to court is expensive, and the police are not at all keen to allow any precedents to be set! (My assertion, not his!)

I ended up getting an entire police operation, calibration, and training manual for police radars and laser guns with my request - a very interesting read!

This probably won't get you out of the fine, but it is nice to keep the b*stards honest - and to compel them to do something for you.

2 things to point out - requests can be denied if they are vexatious (But I can't see how getting this type info could be!) and organisations *can* charge for the information (copying costs etc) but usually don't for such a small ammount of info.

Further to my rant, it is attitudes like that of scumdog in this thread that led me to install a radar detector in my car when I lived just out of Dunedin ( Car is an '82 laser 1.3 that is a feeble, out of tune pissbucket - sad that I need a detector). I have noticed since moving to Auckland that most of the general duty police cars up here don't have their radars on, whereas those in Dunedin usually drive around blazing with radar. Perhaps Auckland cops have better things to do...

(That said HOW a cop behaves when writing you out a ticket makes a huge difference - some are complete w*nkers who give all cops a bad name, soem are pretty OK in their attitude - the w*kers in my experience have been young highway patrol cops, and the OK ones mostly older guys with a bit more life experience under their belt perhaps...)

IMHO, I see a need for speed limits, and the need to police them, but the current application of the law makes a mockery of the purpose of the legislation - which is surely to promote *safe* roads rather than ticketing anyone slightly above the limit as a matter of policy.

/End my rant - phew :sweatdrop

ManDownUnder

10th May 2005, 16:51

so why was my lengthy explanation including maths and physics turned down when a friend on four wheels got a 124kmh ticket wiped because he was overtaking???

...coz you were speeding...

... and your mate was lucky... very very lucky
MDU

marty

10th May 2005, 17:18

yeah scumdog. you've got a BAD attitude...you're badder than a bad thing at a bad boy party

marty

10th May 2005, 17:21

meister

10th May 2005, 18:03

I was going to offer a reasonable reply but then decided you don't deserve one.
did i hit a raw nerve there spud???? not under investigation are we???

marty

10th May 2005, 18:37

did i hit a raw nerve there spud???? not under investigation are we???

think about it - if i asked you for advice (without a lecture) then slagged you off, what would you say?

meister

10th May 2005, 18:57

hey, don't get me wrong marty, and spud, but me, my wife, and kid, pay good money in taxes to feel secure in the belief that i am safe in my home, on the roads, and in my wellbeing...and cops took an oath (as i did to serve in the navy) to fulfill that promise...now this whole thing about understaffing is bullocks, i see a truckload of cops on our roads revenue gathering and not investigating incidents such as rape, and i would be livid if i knew cops were sitting on sh1 with a radar and my 18yr old daughter's rapist was still at large and no-one was assigned to it...and then, they are viewing porn as well? hey, i'm a bloke, i love porn as much as the next guy, and girl as the case may be, but they have an image and job to uphold...and its hard, no probs from me (i was accepted into the police two years ago before a rugby injury forced me out) but some consistency sure would be appreciated...we have heard in this thread some guys doing greater speeds and being let off...where's the f__ken consistency there?

i said it in my very first post (under newbie intros), "if i offend anyone, i apologise, but i will never apologise for what i have said", isnt that what forums (within reason) are an avenue for, free speech?

sit tight guys, tissues are being couriered to dry those eyes.

meister

10th May 2005, 19:03

maybe it was that attitude that got him the ticket in the first place.

probably not a good time to tell that i got let off a 116k this morning......by someone who i had never met before. :)

and for the record, i made no attempt to talk my way out of the ticket at the time, took it with a grain of salt and went on my merry way...its typical of a kiwi or pom to whinge their way out of it on the spot, i wrote a letter as is the recommended avenue.

so there..."anyone got a handbag?"

Ixion

10th May 2005, 19:05

..so there..."anyone got a handbag?"

You could borrow mine sweety, but it's stuffed absolutely FULL of those so so scrummy cosmetics recommended by David Beckham
:msn-wink:

Coyote

10th May 2005, 19:07

And Alarumba - Careful dude, they are everyday wankers like you and me, they go to work, do what their told for their 8 hours, go home and ride bikes etc.
Of course. They're people being told what to do, not at all their fault. It's their bosses that are the problem. Not once have I had a tail-gater behing me pulled over by a cop for dangerous driving. They're all being forced to focus and speeding as thats where the money is

And the only real reason for me hating them when it comes to tickets anyway is how they treated me when I sent them that letter. Come on, they got two simple facts wrong

And K14, shut up, and bad rep someone who cares, wanker

Coyote

10th May 2005, 19:15

And K14, shut up, and bad rep someone who cares, wanker
Oh yeah, just so there's no hard feelings, I'll post up a few stupid emoticonnyimigigs :ar15: :kick: :blink: :raghead: :apumpin: :stoogie: :wari: :pop: :rofl: :slap:

Well fuck me, theres a limit to how many emoticons you're allowed to post

k14

10th May 2005, 19:59

And K14, shut up, and bad rep someone who cares, wanker

Well if you didn't care then why did you say that?

The reason i gave the bad rep is exactly for the reason why it is there, because i dissaproved of your post. Don't go around slagging the cops off just cause they stuffed up a letter you wrote which was completly unnecessary. Grow up mate.

Phurrball

10th May 2005, 20:23

i doubt whether you'd get the camera stuff - it's not relavent to your ticket. it's available on line anyway if you're bored.
the other stuff (operating manuals etc) make for 'interesting' reading, that's about all - if you were pinged by a HP unit, you can guarantee that they have all the appropriate qualifications, and that their speedo/radar etc are up to date. it's worth a crack though - costs nothing, and it's always worth while seeing what is written on the back of the police copy.

Ta Marty,

That is exactly what I found out - I would not expect a well rescouced outfit like the HP crew to put a foot wrong often.

I know I felt better for finding that info out though...

I don't take issue with traffic policing per se, but I do find aspects of policy/application disturbing on occasion...

I personally have a *huge* bee (more an angry tropical wasp really) in my bonnet regarding w*nkers who don't indicate :nono: , and would be oh-so-merry if a few of them were ticketed and dished out the odd demerit...

I have no say in the matter sadly...

Cheers.

Coyote

10th May 2005, 20:51

The reason i gave the bad rep is exactly for the reason why it is there, because i dissaproved of your post. Don't go around slagging the cops off just cause they stuffed up a letter you wrote which was completly unnecessary. Grow up mate.
I really want to make a witty retort to this, but I'm only 15 and I need to be a bit older to have the privileged of doing such a thing

OK, I'm gonna take back what I said as I am obviously wrong, after all, I'm only a youth and have no place in this society until I am 25, and the actual cops on the street aren't the bad guys, only everyone who has voted for a right wing government that privatises everything and is so money grasping, they'll send a whole police task force to gather money or a 'left wing' government that looks good on the surface, but then is caught raping you in your sleep
Oh yeah, I also got my mummy to check my post, being to young to understand in all, just to make sure it wasn't offensive, hopefully I don't catch one of ya fucking her

Oh yeah, if you bad rep me, I"LL GIVE YA GOOD REP!!!! Since you are all so desperate to get some of this rep shit, I'll soon be down to a red box in the short space of 3 days!!! Of course, you will have just made a total arse of yourself, much like I have after making this very post!

This post will be deleted tomorrow, don't worry

k14

10th May 2005, 21:33

I really want to make a witty retort to this, but I'm only 15 and I need to be a bit older to have the privileged of doing such a thing

OK, I'm gonna take back what I said as I am obviously wrong, after all, I'm only a youth and have no place in this society until I am 25, and the actual cops on the street aren't the bad guys, only everyone who has voted for a right wing government that privatises everything and is so money grasping, they'll send a whole police task force to gather money or a 'left wing' government that looks good on the surface, but then is caught raping you in your sleep
Oh yeah, I also got my mummy to check my post, being to young to understand in all, just to make sure it wasn't offensive, hopefully I don't catch one of ya fucking her

Oh yeah, if you bad rep me, I"LL GIVE YA GOOD REP!!!! Since you are all so desperate to get some of this rep shit, I'll soon be down to a red box in the short space of 3 days!!! Of course, you will have just made a total arse of yourself, much like I have after making this very post!

ROFLMAO, keep diggin mate :killingme

Wenier

10th May 2005, 22:44

nice touch with the white text it was hard to see it was there but jus possible to notice. Top job

scumdog

10th May 2005, 23:25

yeah scumdog. you've got a BAD attitude...you're badder than a bad thing at a bad boy party

Yeah, all you sorry-arsed cheese-dick mofos, just remember that when I pull you up and rip your poorly earned licence from your clammy paw - I am the MAN!!!

:D :killingme

Oops, thats right, I'm BAD!! :mad:

scumdog

10th May 2005, 23:32

250learna

11th May 2005, 00:27

loosebruce

11th May 2005, 01:15

hey, here's one to chew on...

my bike is one of three in the country bought out by Suzuki NZ a couple of years back for some show and i bought it from a dealer a few weeks back...

my bike is in mph, and i had the dealer put a 'white line' at 60 (around 98kmh) but i argued the fact that the guy actually put it on 65, he was taller than me, so angle of sight also contributed, and the angle of the speedo did exacerbated the problem

Just outta curoiusty (sp) since when did a GSXR600K2 have an analouge speedo to put a mark on it? Aint they all digital?
What type of Gixxer6 was it, wasn't a Telefornica rep by any chance as they brought 15 into NZ and i destroyed one of them.

Anyhow, if i get caught i pay it, no questions asked and i've been pinged for um well more than 116kph, infact most of the time i'd be happy for a ticket of 16kph over, if by some miracle i can talk my way out of it, i take it.
But yeah at the end of the day, you get caught, pay for it and move on.

Got any pics of ya Gixxer?

Cheers

Da Bird

11th May 2005, 01:18

but some consistency sure would be appreciated...we have heard in this thread some guys doing greater speeds and being let off...where's the f__ken consistency there?

If it helps at all, I think I am pretty consistent... I don't do warnings (unless you are dying and on the way to the hospital but then you better have a good excuse for not calling Speed Medic and his mates).

I do know where you are coming from though... by introducing a 10km/hr tolerance on speed offences, it was supposed to make everything consistent - at 11km/hr or over, you get ticketed, however, as has been pointed out, not everyone is getting ticketed over this tolerance.

So there you have it... we get criticised for using discretion and not being consistent and criticised for trying to be consistent and ticketing everyone over the tolerance level.

BC

Da Bird

11th May 2005, 01:23

i then admitted that i exceeded the limit, as every kiwi rider and biker does, by what i figured to be 5-odd kms, being a quiet road so early in the morning. i did not dispute the fact i was doing 116...

"Your Honour... the charge is Exceeding 100km/hr... I rest my case"

Don't bother taking it to court mate, you have just dug your own hole.

BC.

Ixion

11th May 2005, 01:44

WTF - duplicate post. How did that happen. Move along folks, nothing to see here

Ixion

11th May 2005, 01:53

If it helps at all, I think I am pretty consistent... I don't do warnings (unless you are dying and on the way to the hospital but then you better have a good excuse for not calling Speed Medic and his mates).

I do know where you are coming from though... by introducing a 10km/hr tolerance on speed offences, it was supposed to make everything consistent - at 11km/hr or over, you get ticketed, however, as has been pointed out, not everyone is getting ticketed over this tolerance.

So there you have it... we get criticised for using discretion and not being consistent and criticised for trying to be consistent and ticketing everyone over the tolerance level.

BC

Not so sure about the logic of that. I think (based on the words of wisdom from our esteemed masters) that the 10kph was to allow for speedo error and such like. I seem to remember that the police wanted no tolerance, and accepted 10kph because speedometers on new vehicles (or used ones for that matter though they don't test them) have a +/- 10% tolerence. In reality they are always fast (over read) but legally it can be the other way.

But I would argue for individual cops to use discretion beyond that. Where appropriate. An example. Tootling along yesterday (within the 50kph limit) on Li'l Rat Bike, when an Interchangeable Mabel decides (as they do) to pull out of the carpark directly in front of me. Never even slowed down, just shot up to the carpark exit and out. Saw her coming as she approached the exit but braking would have been touch and go on a wet road, bearing in mind the possibility of oil and muck on the road where those carpark driveways come out. But there was a gap ahead and to the right (four lane road, me and (now) Mabel in the left lane). That's fine I'll just nip in there. Standard practice , happens all the time. One problem, there's a cage right beside me on the right.(He'd closed up on me a bit when I slowed down when I saw Mabel heading toward that carpark exit ) . So I need to get ahead of him enough to slip right away from Mabel. Standard procedure again, a bit of throttle to move me ahead of the car on the right , indicator, check he hasn't speeded up (surprising how many bastiges will do that, if he has, brake and go behind him) , no, good chap, and nip right. Sail past Mabel, who never realised that anything was amiss, I think. No drama, just the usual fun and games. Only problem, in doing this I got up to 70kph odd for a few moments (then down again). And coming toward me, a police car. "Oh shit, I hope he's not going to be silly". He didn't, just carried on past.

Now I don't know if he didn't notice (damn unobservant if he didn't) or if he realised what was going on and decided to ignore the few seconds over the limit. If the latter, then I think it was the right decision.

In this case a few seconds speeding was the safest thing to do. And the cop allowing a bit of discretion was the sensible thing to do.

(And, to nip lectures in the bud, I knew the gap was there, I'd been keeping an eye on it just in case. And I still had other options: to steer left behind Mabel into the car park she came out of; or blast her with the horn, hope she braked and go past the front of her. Or hope she came out and accelerated hard, in which case I could easily brake enough to fall in behind her (would have picked that one if she'd been a boi racer - they can at least be relied to blast away hard) . Or just brake hard and hope not to hit oil. But relying on what Mabels may do is dangerous. There is no predicting them. Nipping into the gap was the safest option because it was the option that did not depend on predicting what Mabel might do)

Lou Girardin

11th May 2005, 08:22

Yeah, all you sorry-arsed cheese-dick mofos, just remember that when I pull you up and rip your poorly earned licence from your clammy paw - I am the MAN!!!

:D :killingme

Oops, thats right, I'm BAD!! :mad:

OK chubby, strap those gopeds to each foot and go make the roads safe. :D

Clockwork

11th May 2005, 09:27

No front plates, pics only taken from front BUT if the camera is a mobile one the operator can write down your number and post you the ticket.
No demerits from a speed camers ticket.

Without the picture including then number plate where is the evidence?
If it's this easy, why bother with cameras at all?

Ramius

11th May 2005, 10:42

Without the picture including then number plate where is the evidence?
If it's this easy, why bother with cameras at all?

You have picture of bike and word of camera operator. Let me think, who is more likely to be believed, joe blow caught speeding on a nice shiney bike, or camera operator who is bank rolled by the government?

Anyway, my 2c worth. :Punk:

spudchucka

11th May 2005, 10:59

i see a truckload of cops on our roads revenue gathering and not investigating incidents such as rape, and i would be livid if i knew cops were sitting on sh1 with a radar and my 18yr old daughter's rapist was still at large and no-one was assigned to it...
Rape is a purely indictable crime and as such is a matter for a CIB detective to investigate. Nobody expects general duties or traffic cops to investigate these offences beyond whatever initial action is required upon receipt of a complaint. Equally nobody expects a CIB detective to allocate 20% of his or her time to traffic enforcement either. If rapes aren't being investigated its because there aren't enough detectives, not because there are too many traffic cops.

Try gaining a little understanding of the matters you are critiscising.

spudchucka

11th May 2005, 11:04

did i hit a raw nerve there spud???? not under investigation are we???
Meister, you are just another newbie with a sad attitude. You asked for advice from a cop and in the same post slagged them off. Why should I or any other cop on this board give you the time of day? If you want advice in future don't bother asking me because I can't be stuffed anymore with idiot trolls like you.

Clockwork

11th May 2005, 11:40

You have picture of bike and word of camera operator. Let me think, who is more likely to be believed, joe blow caught speeding on a nice shiney bike, or camera operator who is bank rolled by the government?

Anyway, my 2c worth. :Punk:

But where is the evidence that the picture and the number belong to the same vehicle?

Biff

11th May 2005, 11:55

its typical of a kiwi or pom to whinge their way out of it on the spot,

so there..."anyone got a handbag?"

That's right my socialy challenged friend, we whinge and get off tickets. People like you on the other hand ooze arrogance, the cops detect this, so you pay.

Try being polite for a change and lose the obvious attitude - you may be surprised how many cops may let you off. Then again maybe it's because I whinge like a spoilt child that gets me off more tickets than I pay.

karma :D

Ramius

11th May 2005, 12:04

But where is the evidence that the picture and the number belong to the same vehicle?

Read my post again and look for the hidden meaning. The secret code. The answer to all that needs to be known. The subliminal message.

Phurrball

11th May 2005, 15:08

O.k. folks, where in this thread did I say something deserving of a slur on my attitude such as is mentioned on post #48 from Phurrball on this thread??

Ooh, that cut to the quick :weep:

Don't all rush, my delicate feeling could be crushed by too much neg. info. :D

(Once again I note a couple of things: the 'fire-iest' post is from (a) a newby with (b) less than 20 posts)

WRT the question in your post:

Ahh, the best part is that YOU pay us - and we're fucking wankers!! Like I care when somebody gets away? I still get paid each fortnight

I don't think my time on the forum has any effect on the validity of otherwise of my opinions. It does WRT the deference I should have to more senior members.

Anyways - I got a wee bit excited, and I will accept some of your criticism, and partially resile from my comments. I am sorry scumdog, I do not have enough information to make sensible comment with respect to your personal attitudes, it is almost certain that you have never ticketed me, I should have known better, and I apologise.

I'll give you a free shot - as I too am heading towards a sometimes maligned profession - I'm another scummy law student.

A little clarification: The firey part of may rant is based on conjecture, but on 3 actual incidents, and my radar detector, which objectively verifies that the majority of general duties police cars I have seen in Auckland are not using their radar, which is in stark contrast to what I observed in Dunedin - I can only speculate as to the motives for this.

I should point out that I do my best to be polite to any officer who pulls me over for whatever reason ("Sir" etc...)

2 of the incidents involved tickets (unsurprisingly on a downhill stretch of road, given my car...) One officer was young, a little smarmy for my tastes, and said all the things that push my buttons...I carried on home in a dark state of mind that likely did road safety no favours. The other officer was older, and in spite of being obliged to write me a ticket, was a very pleasant gentleman who admonished me in relatively benign and soothing terms, and I went on my way lacking the bad taste that I had from the previous incident - the differrence was attitude.

The 3rd incident involved being pulled over on a deserted Dunedin night by a GD car with radar for the 'suspicious' act of going up one one-way, and down the other (the officer also happened to independantly do this). I think he was bored.

See my previous post - IMHO I would love to see the attitude applied to speeding applied to those who do not indicate, in fact I could *accept* the policy on ticketing for speed offences as a quid pro quo if it was extended to non-indicators, and other aspects of poor driving - which I believe pose at least as great a road safety threat as those who speed to excess.

There is a *perception* of police roading policy (Which somehow unfairly seldom extends to the polical masters of the police), which rightly or wrongly ends up colouring the attitudes of the public WRT police priorities in a negative light.

Maybe I'll meet you someday touring in South Otago :ride: - a fine part of our beautiful country, I'm sure you're a lovely chap :D

Phurrball/Ross.

Biff

11th May 2005, 15:20

I'm another scummy law student.

Can I have a free pop too? Actually - don't answer that, as I'm going to anyway, and don't even think about billing me for it.

Now we're talking real leaches here - Lawyers. The kind of profession that was created when somebody first scraped something nasty from the bottom of their shoes.

Moneygrabbingvultures. :mad:

(Please don't take it personally - yet. Unless you end up as my lawyer. In which case I'll make sure that you take it personally. He sure as shit knows I don't like him. Fkin vampire).

Rant Over - Carry on.

Lou Girardin

11th May 2005, 15:54

I'm pleased you didn't get pinged Ixion, but why didn't the cop nail the cow in the car?
Which would've been the more serious offence?

Lou Girardin

11th May 2005, 15:55

Rape is a purely indictable crime and as such is a matter for a CIB detective to investigate. Nobody expects general duties or traffic cops to investigate these offences beyond whatever initial action is required upon receipt of a complaint. Equally nobody expects a CIB detective to allocate 20% of his or her time to traffic enforcement either. If rapes aren't being investigated its because there aren't enough detectives, not because there are too many traffic cops.

Try gaining a little understanding of the matters you are critiscising.

Then they need to promote more taxmen to detective.

Lou Girardin

11th May 2005, 15:58

I think, phurrballl, that the cops you think don't have their stalkers switched on, either don't have them or they're in instant on mode.

Phurrball

11th May 2005, 17:42

Can I have a free pop too? Actually - don't answer that, as I'm going to anyway, and don't even think about billing me for it.

Now we're talking real leaches here - Lawyers. The kind of profession that was created when somebody first scraped something nasty from the bottom of their shoes.

Moneygrabbingvultures. :mad:

(Please don't take it personally - yet. Unless you end up as my lawyer. In which case I'll make sure that you take it personally. He sure as shit knows I don't like him. Fkin vampire).

Rant Over - Carry on.

Hehe - :rofl: I like a good lawyer joke as much as the next person - You can't take yourself too seriously! - FYI I studied something 'real' first, and went a long way down the road to becoming a scientist...Lawyer 'in jokes' are pretty vicious too - anyone mention the cookie jar?

Phurrball

11th May 2005, 17:53

I think, phurrballl, that the cops you think don't have their stalkers switched on, either don't have them or they're in instant on mode.

For sure - why radar detectors are only an odds evener at best (ironically, they are obliquely aimed at policy rather than at frontline police)

Impossible to cheat a laser, even if you can detect it (no one reacts at the speed of light)...and you'd need bloody quick reactions, and to not be too far over the 'de facto' limit to beat instant on (even though radar is usually a few km/hr in the motorist's favour due to the angles they are set at for good doppler return).

'Quiet' cop cars (except on Tamaki Drive) are just an observation I've made in my few months here...vaguely interesting...probably not much more to it than that...

Rainbow Wizard

11th May 2005, 18:26

The nasties now definitely click from the date of the offence, regardless of when you paid the tax and I think the demerits from EACH offence only hang in for two years and then fall off whereas before I think you had to be demerit FREE for two years before they got nullified.

Any bureaucracy indulgent savvies here care to source the true facts?

meister

11th May 2005, 19:01

final words to this thread from the author...

first - loosey, my bike is not a K2, it is actually a Y-model but regd '02, hence the speedo

secondly - spudchuka - i'm only a newbie to this site mate, don't lose sight of that. lose the "holier than thou attitude", the uniform does not give you the right to determine who is right or who is wrong, just to uphold the law. i pay your wages, and if there are the odd-few who are ruining the police force's rep, take it up with them, not me. i admit, it was a generallistic view of cops, but i did not apint you with that brush. i have a view, like the media and the NZ public and so do you, let it go...and i would expect that when we do meet (be it for me speeding again or on a ride), we can be adults about it and take the forum as a place to vent some views but not lose fact of what we are here to do; talk, live and breathe bikes. take a leaf out of the next fellow's book; thus,

thirdly - bykey cop - thanks for the thoughts and making thoughts on the question at hand, not my views, as a good cop should. i have paid the fine, i just had a non-aggressive attempt at getting out of it, thats all and wanted to hear some thoughts on that.

fourthly (is that a correct term?) - biff (and i am guessing based on the movie character judging by the post) - read the post. i was cordial with the cop, i took the ticket, had a chat about what i was up to that day, he asked about my name (i am only one of two in the country - hope that narrows it for you spud when you go on the vengeance path), and we discussed his holden, as i used to work for holden. in fact, anyone who went past might have thought we were either mates or lovers. i did not have an attitude, only with those who deserve it...not looking at anyone in particular... :whistle:

so thanks guys, i think we have let it alllllllll out, and are straying off the track. BTW, am going to sydney for the super 12 final should the mighty warratahs make final, am thinking of hiring a harley 9although i am not quite that old) and doing a bit of cruising through the blueies...anyone got recommendations of where to get a bike?

remember spud, i'm riding out to sth head saturday morning (leaving akld around 0630) i'll even give you the rego if it helps... :ride:

ciao guys, catch you, hopefully in another thread.

Indoo

11th May 2005, 20:21

final words to this thread from the author...

i pay your wages, and if there are the odd-few who are ruining the police force's rep, take it up with them, not me.

You ever stop to think that Police pay taxes also i guess that would make them self-employed? My Wife earns about twice what I do and i would guess a hell of alot more than you, that would mean she has about 3 times the say you do in how this country is run.

i admit, it was a generallistic view of cops, but i did not apint you with that brush.

No clue, sorry.

i have a view, like the media and the NZ public and so do you, let it go...

Yep the media definately have a view, they also have a view on bikers and other things that make headlines. If your view was even remotely informed it could be respected.

thirdly - bykey cop - thanks for the thoughts and making thoughts on the question at hand, not my views, as a good cop should.

Yep you should be able to slag off all cops and in the same sentence ask them to help you avoid a ticket you rightfully and lawfully deserved.

Mikey and Winja take the piss and are slightly amusing, Lou sometimes has some valid points, but you are just pig shit stupid.you are a very intelligent and well informed poster.

Dafe

11th May 2005, 20:33

I agree with earlier comments - Pay up if you were caught cleanly speeding.
Otherwise, Dispute the fine.

Also, If you think that "Parallax Error" is any kind of excuse for getting off of paying motorbike fines then you may wanna let short arse pilots know that when they read the altimeter incorrect, they'll be granted a get out of jail free card!

Unfortunately for you, you trusted somebody elses markings, I've known people who place their markings 5-10km lower to allow for error or accidental overspeeding. Did the previous rider of your bike do this or was his markings the Legit one and only?

Biff

12th May 2005, 00:00

fourthly (is that a correct term?) - biff (and i am guessing based on the movie character judging by the post) - read the post.

I did - then I read your remarks about Kiwi's, poms and handbags. The Kiwi and Pom's remark covered off and broadly insulted about 95% of the people here - hence my pointed response about your arrogance. Maybe you didn't realise you appear arrogant, or at least your appearance of being arrogant in this thread. But hey, in your own words you're a newbie. Lesson learnt.

:niceone:

And alas no - I'm not a movie star. I'm called Biff for other reasons.

Ixion

12th May 2005, 00:30

I'm pleased you didn't get pinged Ixion, but why didn't the cop nail the cow in the car?
Which would've been the more serious offence?

I think the only thing he would have noticed would have been me slowing down from 70. To an observer it would have been very undramatic. Mabel trundled out into the traffic stream doing 40 -50kph. I zipped sideways with a bit of acceleration. Doubt anyone else even noticed what was happening. Of course if I'd stayed where I was and hit Mabel it would have been dramatic. But that really was not very likely, I try to avoid such things.

Only a biker would have thought - "Hm what would have happened if that motorbike *hadn't* nipped sideways like that - oh yeah, shit" Cagers just don't think like that.

Obviously what Mabel did was the more serious offence from a safety POV. I regard failure to stop/give way as always serious.

Wolf

12th May 2005, 09:34

i said it in my very first post (under newbie intros), "if i offend anyone, i apologise, but i will never apologise for what i have said", isnt that what forums (within reason) are an avenue for, free speech?
So saying that every cop on this forum is guilty of storing porn on their computers is "within reason" according to you?

If that is the case, then my wild-arsed assumption that you spend way too much time playing computer games should be totally reasonable - on the grounds that while your assumption was based on the "objective statements" in the popular press (who have no political axe to grind and are not at all motivated by gathering revenue - I feel a new Tui ad coming on...), my assumption was based on observation of your posts.

You do not appear to have learned that the other "players" in these on-line forums are real people with real jobs - you seem to behave as if they were merely computer-generated images in a computer game - hence my assumption of your computer experience.

You have a self confessed attitude of "fuck 'em all if they get offended, I have every right to treat them as I please" - the "bravery" that comes from knowing that they can't smack you in the gob. You trade on the relative anonymity of your profile to say things that you would not have the balls to say to the faces of the likes of Spud, SD, Marty &c if you met them in a pub.

The same applies to your sweeping comments about kiwis and poms. If you tried that crap in a pub you'd get hammered and you know it - which is why you say it here where you feel "safe".

"Free speech" is not defined as "feeling free to say what you'd be too scared to say under other circumstances".

The term you were looking for is "Gutless coward".

FYI "Free speech" is the right to speak out against the policies of the government without being summarily arrested and jailed, not the right to behave like a total arse in public.

sit tight guys, tissues are being couriered to dry those eyes.
Most of the blubbering here has come from you - "I got a ticket and they wouldn't let me off, boo hoo, advise me what to do you porno-reading pigs" and then you got all teary-eyed and "I'm allowed to treat you like shit, it's called free speech" when you got jumped on about it. Save your tissues for yourself - you seem like you have the greater need.

Better yet, revert to lurk mode until you learn something about the humans on this site - then you can slag them off for what they are really like, not what you think they're like, based on a stupid fucking newspaper story.

To everyone else: Yes I know, "arguing with a fool" etc and "Don't feed the Trolls" blah blah but WTF, I felt the need to taste blood today...

Lou Girardin

12th May 2005, 09:46

Impossible to cheat a laser, even if you can detect it
.

Yes it is!

chickenfunkstar

12th May 2005, 11:26

So saying that every cop on this forum is guilty of storing porn on their computers is "within reason" according to you?

If that is the case, then my wild-arsed assumption that you spend way too much time playing computer games should be totally reasonable - on the grounds that while your assumption was based on the "objective statements" in the popular press (who have no political axe to grind and are not at all motivated by gathering revenue - I feel a new Tui ad coming on...), my assumption was based on observation of your posts.

You do not appear to have learned that the other "players" in these on-line forums are real people with real jobs - you seem to behave as if they were merely computer-generated images in a computer game - hence my assumption of your computer experience.

You have a self confessed attitude of "fuck 'em all if they get offended, I have every right to treat them as I please" - the "bravery" that comes from knowing that they can't smack you in the gob. You trade on the relative anonymity of your profile to say things that you would not have the balls to say to the faces of the likes of Spud, SD, Marty &c if you met them in a pub.

The same applies to your sweeping comments about kiwis and poms. If you tried that crap in a pub you'd get hammered and you know it - which is why you say it here where you feel "safe".

"Free speech" is not defined as "feeling free to say what you'd be too scared to say under other circumstances".

The term you were looking for is "Gutless coward".

FYI "Free speech" is the right to speak out against the policies of the government without being summarily arrested and jailed, not the right to behave like a total arse in public.

Most of the blubbering here has come from you - "I got a ticket and they wouldn't let me off, boo hoo, advise me what to do you porno-reading pigs" and then you got all teary-eyed and "I'm allowed to treat you like shit, it's called free speech" when you got jumped on about it. Save your tissues for yourself - you seem like you have the greater need.

Better yet, revert to lurk mode until you learn something about the humans on this site - then you can slag them off for what they are really like, not what you think they're like, based on a stupid fucking newspaper story.

To everyone else: Yes I know, "arguing with a fool" etc and "Don't feed the Trolls" blah blah but WTF, I felt the need to taste blood today...

Great post mate,
I fully agree.

meister - You must have some respect for the guys / girls who have been on the site for a long time???

spudchucka

12th May 2005, 12:37

Then they need to promote more taxmen to detective.
Many either aren't interested or aren't capable of completing the extensive study that is required to become a qualified detective. Joining the CIB is a career choice made by the individual, it isn't something that is decided for you by promoting a person to that position regardless of whether they want the job or not.

spudchucka

12th May 2005, 12:43

i pay your wages,
Say that to the next cop that pulls you over.......... I dare ya! :wait:

spudchucka

12th May 2005, 12:48

Yes it is!
Just fix a heap of laser disks across the front of your vehicle, it looks cool and it totally screws the laser device. :wait:

Lou Girardin

12th May 2005, 12:58

Just fix a heap of laser disks across the front of your vehicle, it looks cool and it totally screws the laser device. :wait:
And I just happen to have some extra special laser deflecting Cd's for sale. At a price you wouldn't believe.

spudchucka

12th May 2005, 13:23

And I just happen to have some extra special laser deflecting Cd's for sale. At a price you wouldn't believe.
If you can find a market for them then go hard I reckon.

Wolf

12th May 2005, 13:38

Say that to the next cop that pulls you over.......... I dare ya! :wait:
:killingme Wot? Where he can be identified? And get a direct (most likely terse) answer? 'e aint got the bleedin' bottle, guv.

I've been nabbed for speeding in the past, done all the "sure fire" things to get off - stopped quickly and safely, got off the bike, removed helmet and walked part of the way to the cop's bike. Was polite, apologetic, explained the situation - still got the ticket despite all that so I paid it. Why? Because I was speeding and I got caught. Simple, really.

I don't get speeding tickets any more - anyone want to hazard a guess why?

And as to tarring all cops, or anyone else (except lawyers, bankers, accountants, doctors, dentists, marketroids and politicians :D ), with the same brush - most the cops I've encountered when pulling me over for speeding or random breath checks or stopping me for questioning whilst I'm on my midnight perambulations though this fair(ly shitty) town, have been polite, professional and well mannered. Once a friend and I were picked up by a couple of cops who did their best to get us to swear in public so they could hold us on that but they weren't too much of a hassle and once a cop was rude and abusive to me whilst asking me questions and then asked "fuckin' goody-good, are ya?" when I told him I had never been in trouble with the law - but he was a rookie fresh out of training and needed the rough edges knocked off him (which I suspect happened once he and his senior partner were out of my earshot). Even the cop who came to take me to the police station for questioning regarding allegations of me discharging a firearm at someone was polite and easy to get on with.

Yeah, so it's annoying getting ticketed, it cost money, can cost your licence, and writing letters doesn't always get you off the hook (despite it being a popular topic for threads) c'est la vie. The alternative is to stick to the limits (ensure your speedo is properly calibrated and legible. I've been sitting at "80" km/h behind a mate's car and they've sworn they were at 100 - we both can't be right, hope theirs was wrong...)

Wolf

12th May 2005, 13:40

And I just happen to have some extra special laser deflecting Cd's for sale. At a price you wouldn't believe.
And a couple of bridges going cheap as well...

crazylittleshit

12th May 2005, 13:44

My favourite ticket was for Driving with intent to cause alarm......... :killingme
I was drifting And it was a good one........ :devil2:

spudchucka

12th May 2005, 13:53

My favourite ticket was for Driving with intent to cause alarm......... :killingme
I was drifting And it was a good one........ :devil2:
You obviously didn't enjoy the job you had with the police.

scumdog

12th May 2005, 18:54

If you can find a market for them then go hard I reckon.

Yes, but don't forget they have to be new ones, pre-recorded ones won't work as the recording ruins their ability to deflect the laser.

PM me if you want to know more.

meister

12th May 2005, 19:38

sorry, obviously not in the right site...take care all, if i said it was fun i would be lying.

but for wolf, who beleives i am hiding...

my name is alf eleftheriou (pronounce that correctly and i will buy you a beer), married with 18yr old daughter, lost THE love of my life to a drunk driver, represented NZ in rugby and the Navy, got called a spik by a cop, born in australia (so you dont think i've heard every damned dig in the book), and find kiwis to be level headed - they have a chip on both shoulders.

i havent got anything to hide, spud will give you the rest of my details (BTW, i have told cops that, i told the cop that got me years ago - see below- me, he was quick as a flash and replyed "of course you do, its the only way i can afford to get taxis round to your house to see your missus!!" and that my friends is a good cop, although he did call me a wog, and i had to correct him, i am a spik!), and if you want to come round and smash me, as you so eloquently put it, maybe i deserved it. the site was to talk all things two-wheeled (three if thats your thing) and i had a view and needed somewhere to put it. i never really had a problem or attitude about it, just chanced my arm, but as text based communications cannot portray sarcasm, humour, or any other emotion, if you take it wrong, hey. take it as it was intended, a place to get something out. i dont beat people up, i dont murder, i dont rape, and apart from one incident in a car, and the speeding ticket, have not broken the law. as i said, i was accepted into the force some time back, and would hope to have another crack at it now, although the mind is willing, the body is to fat!!

if i offended, i apologise, but i wont for what i have said.

tkae care guys, remember it will be those on four wheels which will ultimately spell our doom.

scumdog

12th May 2005, 19:51

eee-oop lad, dinna worry abaht what site yer on, keep on this one an' we'll sort yer aht and see yer sarted :msn-wink: !!

Stick with it, you'l learn some good life skill and some tolerance!! :yes:

You have to be pretty bad to get the 'elbow' from this lot.

spudchucka

12th May 2005, 20:17

spud will give you the rest of my details
Why? Would I want to?

Phurrball

12th May 2005, 21:19

Yes it is!

Actually, you're quite right! Interfering with lasers is possible, but I believe that actually interfering with radar is illegal (Can anyone inform me?)

I was speaking more WRT radar detectors - the laser detectors on them work, but aren't worth the shinyness, as they do you no good because once laser is detected, it's too late! [All mine found was a "cheap" replacement ignition part...AD INFINITUM!!!!!!!! until I got a better part...]

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And as to tarring all cops, or anyone else (except lawyers, bankers, accountants, doctors, dentists, marketroids and politicians :D ), with the same brush -

Hey - why the exceptions? I'm half a lawyer, do I get half tarred? Hehe :msn-wink:

:most the cops I've encountered when pulling me over for speeding or random breath checks or stopping me for questioning whilst I'm on my midnight perambulations though this fair(ly shitty) town, have been polite, professional and well mannered. Once a friend and I were picked up by a couple of cops who did their best to get us to swear in public so they could hold us on that but they weren't too much of a hassle and once a cop was rude and abusive to me whilst asking me questions and then asked "fuckin' goody-good, are ya?" when I told him I had never been in trouble with the law - but he was a rookie fresh out of training and needed the rough edges knocked off him (which I suspect happened once he and his senior partner were out of my earshot). Even the cop who came to take me to the police station for questioning regarding allegations of me discharging a firearm at someone was polite and easy to get on with.

Yeah, so it's annoying getting ticketed, it cost money, can cost your licence, and writing letters doesn't always get you off the hook (despite it being a popular topic for threads) c'est la vie. The alternative is to stick to the limits (ensure your speedo is properly calibrated and legible. I've been sitting at "80" km/h behind a mate's car and they've sworn they were at 100 - we both can't be right, hope theirs was wrong...)

Quite right Wolf - we're all human, and most people carry out their roles professionally - there is always the odd bad egg or person having a bad day/week/month (Or perhaps the odd good egg in the case of lawyers? :msn-wink: ) Of the 10 or so times I've been pulled over, only one cop really rubbed me up the wrong way. The issue is more bad policy/application WRT some traffic policing (IMHO) It is all too easy to get excited based on one or 2 bad personal experiences (Guilty here :weep: )

Interesting thread...