Refuelling whilst still mounted [Archive] - Page 2

mazz1972

2nd March 2010, 15:13

i have been known to drink a beer or chow down a burger whilst mounted....

That's only impressive if you still had your helmet on too.

Once I filled up whilst still seated on my bike.....only once tho.....the gas splashed back and all over me. I was just a noob....

Herman Jelmet

3rd March 2010, 10:54

Hmmm. Good point. You raise some interesting reasons why not to stay astride my bike when re fuelling. I do it all the time. Will look at changing my ways.. must dash, have to go and frantically beat off whilst looking at pictures of Hyosung cruisers

Paul in NZ

3rd March 2010, 13:29

I had to refuel while mounted the other night... Vicki said it was OK as long as I didn't drop crumbs in the bed...

John_H

3rd March 2010, 16:28

I can't believe that this has been discussed for 17 pages, what a waste of time.

Paul in NZ

3rd March 2010, 16:46

I can't believe that this has been discussed for 17 pages, what a waste of time.

Oh pfft.. these guys are merely warming up.. Officially its only a waste of time after 35 pages

Big Dave

3rd March 2010, 17:41

I can't believe that this has been discussed for 17 pages, what a waste of time.

I love the sound of Irony in the afternoons.

Mom

3rd March 2010, 17:55

I love the sound of Irony in the afternoons.

Old fashioned regurgitated Rock 'n Roll is my fav :yes:

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Dustydog

3rd March 2010, 21:59

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I recently commented on a You Tube clip which featured some idiot driving his bike with one hand and filming himself with a video camera in the other while driving down a road and wobbling all over the place. I called him a 'total wanker'.. this was his reply to me. Any relevance between his comments and the wankers referred to in this thread is purely coincidental. If you wanna see what this guy is capable of check it out under his avatar name 'nonibanacu'

"total wanker...
Actually... the total wanker is the one who comments without any knowledge of anything probably.
It's a shame to waste this words when you could keep them for yourself.

Get a life..."

Berries

3rd March 2010, 22:29

I can't believe that this has been discussed for 17 pages, what a waste of time.

18 pages now. Well done.

kwaka_crasher

3rd March 2010, 23:20

Meh. It's only 7 pages.

grusomhat

4th March 2010, 10:17

Meh. It's only 7 pages.

How do these people read long threads having to click next page so often?

DougieNZ

4th March 2010, 10:31

To briefly add to the 18 pages. i must admit I was an astride man. I had a woman come running out of a BP office ranting, raving and waving her arms about 6 years ago telling me that I can't fill up while astride. I ignored her and kept filling while she got more and more irate. I had been doing it that way for about 25 years and wasn't about to change because of 1 niggly forecourt attendant. That was the first time I have been approached about this.

Afterwards I had time to consider the situation. If there was a fire I would leap off the bike and 29 odd litres of burning fuel woiuld be spread over the forecourt. Not a good situation. Though i still don't appreciate the approach at the time I have never filled astride again. Always on the centre stand.

to all those naysayers - you of course have every right to do what you like. It's your bike and your life. That is until you knowingly put others at risk by your behaviour. It's a bit like protest and riding over bridge aches. All is well - provided people that aren't involved can go about their daily business without being put at risk by you. Reasonably simple isn't it?

swbarnett

4th March 2010, 13:04

to all those naysayers - you of course have every right to do what you like. It's your bike and your life. That is until you knowingly put others at risk by your behaviour. It's a bit like protest and riding over bridge aches. All is well - provided people that aren't involved can go about their daily business without being put at risk by you. Reasonably simple isn't it?
Yes, I put the service station and it's attendants at risk every time I fill up while seated (or filling up at all for that matter). However, the added risk is so damn small as to be non-existant. Especially compared to the risk I add to other people simply because I exist. Are you suggesting my parents should have never conceived because I may be a danger to others (all be it at an infinitesimal level) ?

One thing that worries me about this topic is that fact that it's an issue at all (from a risk standpoint). If you're so worried about the dangers of refuelling then why are you not absolutely catatonic with fear every time you ride?

Paul in NZ

4th March 2010, 16:00

Yes, I put the service station and it's attendants at risk every time I fill up while seated (or filling up at all for that matter). However, the added risk is so damn small as to be non-existant. Especially compared to the risk I add to other people simply because I exist. Are you suggesting my parents should have never conceived because I may be a danger to others (all be it at an infinitesimal level) ?

One thing that worries me about this topic is that fact that it's an issue at all (from a risk standpoint). If you're so worried about the dangers of refuelling then why are you not absolutely catatonic with fear every time you ride?

I'm not catatonic with fear because in general the oil industry is one that strives to make the experience as safe as possible to all users. In general it seems to be people with no real industry experience and yet firm opinions that cause issues. As much as I don't 'like' oil companies I have to recognise that they have the research and data in these cases.

R-Soul

4th March 2010, 16:04

swbarnett

4th March 2010, 16:41

I'm not catatonic with fear because in general the oil industry is one that strives to make the experience as safe as possible to all users. In general it seems to be people with no real industry experience and yet firm opinions that cause issues. As much as I don't 'like' oil companies I have to recognise that they have the research and data in these cases.
This, of course, is my point. The refuelling experience is so safe that it makes no sense to worry about the added risk of sitting astride while doing it.

Toaster

4th March 2010, 17:00

This, of course, is my point. The refuelling experience is so safe that it makes no sense to worry about the added risk of sitting astride while doing it.

Here you go mate, something to have a laugh at..... "de-fuelling"... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/119823-Clearly-no-time-to-waste!?p=1129671054#post1129671054

swbarnett

4th March 2010, 18:03

quickbuck

4th March 2010, 18:20

Jules13

4th March 2010, 20:04

I get off all the time since reading how dangerous it is, also we line up sometimes 4 deep across and just keep handing the nozzle over and fill us all up from one pump. Always 2 deep because both my partner and myself ride. Some reckon its minimal danger and if they thought about all that might go wrong they wouldnt ride. I at least eliminate one thing.

davebullet

4th March 2010, 21:45

Look, I'm sick of all this.

If I want to drink a V while still mounted on Mrs B. to go another round and she doesn't mind, then neither should you!

Berries

4th March 2010, 21:48

Look, I'm sick of all this.

If I want to drink a V while still mounted on Mrs B. to go another round and she doesn't mind, then neither should you!

I wouldn't, if you'd just move over a bit.

kwaka_crasher

4th March 2010, 22:11

How do these people read long threads having to click next page so often?Buggered if I know. It must be time consuming though.

swbarnett

7th March 2010, 11:33

I get off all the time since reading how dangerous it is
The problem is that it's NOT dangerous.

Whether or not something is worth worrying about needs to be based on an analysis of the possible concequences AND the probability of that concequence actually happening. When it comes to refuelling while seated the risk of harm of any kind is infinitesimal (or so near to zero it can be treated as such) as a result the possible concequences are effectively irrelevant.

We live in a society where the risk of an event is considered irrelevant and only the possible concenquences are considered. This leads innevitably to financial and mental ruin. Financial because all these "safety" measures cost money for no real benefit and mental because you end up with every member of the population controlled to the nth degree by a few scared zealots who mange to get themselves in to power.

MarkH

7th March 2010, 12:19

The problem is that it's NOT dangerous.

I have to agree - I refuel while seated and have done for the last 30,000 worth of riding (that must have resulted in over 100 refuels). I have not yet been asked to get off while refueling - so if the service station staff don't have a problem then I don't have a problem!.

I do flick the side stand down before I start - I straddle the scoot, but with the stand down just in case. Of course my fuel filler is a bit lower than most and an over flow would not spill onto my crotch so I have trouble seeing any risk at all for me.

Big Dave

7th March 2010, 14:45

The problem is that it's NOT dangerous.

Maybe not - but I can see two good reasons to dismount, both of which help mitigate potential risk with a hazardous material.

None however lead to the collapse of modern society as per your outline.

swbarnett

7th March 2010, 16:01

Maybe not - but I can see two good reasons to dismount, both of which help mitigate potential risk with a hazardous material.

None however lead to the collapse of modern society as per your outline.
It's trying to mitigate every "potential risk" no matter how small that is the problem. It's this very sort of scare mongering that is responsible for a continuous reduction in personal freedoms.

PrincessBandit

7th March 2010, 16:28

Here you go mate, something to have a laugh at..... "de-fuelling"... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/119823-Clearly-no-time-to-waste!?p=1129671054#post1129671054
Heeeheeeeheeee, now THAT would be very difficult to do with a shewee!

...... Of course my fuel filler is a bit lower than most and an over flow would spill onto my crotch so I have trouble seeing any risk at all for me.
Oh dear Mark honey, is that really what you meant to say?

Big Dave

7th March 2010, 16:31

You know what SWB - it's not that complicated. it's simply just a bit safer to get off a bike to refuel it. Life is hard sometimes hey. :hitcher:

MarkH

7th March 2010, 17:40

Oh dear Mark honey, is that really what you meant to say?

Hmmm, I may have left a word out there - fixed! Thanks for spotting it so that I could correct it.

Berries

7th March 2010, 21:21

You know what SWB - it's not that complicated. it's simply just a bit safer to get off a bike to refuel it. Life is hard sometimes hey. :hitcher:

It's also a bit safer to drive a car, where the line is drawn is up to the individual. Each to their own and all that.

MarkH

7th March 2010, 21:30

It's also a bit safer to drive a car, where the line is drawn is up to the individual. Each to their own and all that.

Lots of cars are unsafe - Volvos should be mandatory for all!

Boob Johnson

8th March 2010, 02:56

What a bloody joke! All this pissing n moaning, about what? Jesus Hitcher, you get out of bed on the wrong side man? I can appreciate where you are coming from re writing a letter to the ed. Get a bloody life. But who's now making a thread about the moaners writing to the ed? lol

As has been said vote with your feet & refill elsewhere if you don't wish to abide by their rules. I have never been asked to get off the bike while refilling myself. Can't see an issue with the practice. If you were so worried about the saefty aspect of it then I would suggest you aren't fit to ride a bike, period. It's a small matter of hand eye coard. with a small steam in a farkin big hole, if that is a challenge to you then you truly are challenged & might not be suited to motorcycling!

ps: Agree with SWB, farkin worlds gone OSH mad. Alll reasoning out of the window!