Is it illegal?

[Biff]

Am I breaking any laws by playing DVD's in the car for the kids and Ms Biff when I drive, or anyone drives for that matter?

We've a pullyout dashboard mounted unit and I'm about to install a flip down unit in the rear of the BiffMobile. The pullyout dashboard mounted unit can be angled, and is always angled away from the driver, so the driver can't see it anyway.

I know it'll fail a WOF - which says to me it's probably illegal.

Ta :niceone:

[Sutage]

I think they are illegal if the driver can see it.. dont quote me tho

[MSTRS]

Yeah, my understanding is the screen must be removed to comply for WOF

[Waylander]

One in the front might be but the flip down one in the back shouldn't. Funny how a "normal" person can get caught up in something so silly when boy racers and such can get away with murder.

[onearmedbandit]

Can't be viewed by the driver while the vehicle is in motion. Ie a parking brake switch or angled (fixed) away from the drivers view. But I have seen AA drivers using their touch screen with graphical interface while driving??

(Thats what happens with compliancing anyway)

[Motu]

Can't be viewed by the driver while the vehicle is in motion. Ie a parking brake switch or angled (fixed) away from the drivers view. But I have seen AA drivers using their touch screen with graphical interface while driving??

(Thats what happens with compliancing anyway)
wot he said,the driver is only allowd to view text - so you can load Lord of the Rings and read that on long boring trips,but you can't see the movie....

This rule is due for an overhaul soon as GPS with maps becomes commonplace,some of these Jap Imports have Japanese street maps on the monitor.

[Biff]

Thanks all :niceone:

[Marmoot]

This rule is due for an overhaul soon as GPS with maps becomes commonplace,some of these Jap Imports have Japanese street maps on the monitor.

As he said. It is due for a change real soon.

(Be patient and you might be able to install 29" plasma on top of your dash. You know how our Lawmaking system works - PT)

[Waylander]

wot he said,the driver is only allowd to view text - so you can load Lord of the Rings and read that on long boring trips,but you can't see the movie....

This rule is due for an overhaul soon as GPS with maps becomes commonplace,some of these Jap Imports have Japanese street maps on the monitor.

How is just having text on it legal? Shouldn't it be considerd the same as txting while driving? Reading anything and driving is dangerous because you have to take your eyes off the road to read something. Last thing we need on the streets os for cagers to be looking down at thier stereo monitors thingies while driving they're blind enough as is.

[Motu]

How is just having text on it legal? Shouldn't it be considerd the same as txting while driving? Reading anything and driving is dangerous because you have to take your eyes off the road to read something. Last thing we need on the streets os for cagers to be looking down at thier stereo monitors thingies while driving they're blind enough as is.
This is NZ,we don't have HUD helmets yet - gotta check your speedo now and then eh? Or is that dangerous too?

[sAsLEX]

wot he said,the driver is only allowd to view text - so you can load Lord of the Rings and read that on long boring trips,but you can't see the movie....

This rule is due for an overhaul soon as GPS with maps becomes commonplace,some of these Jap Imports have Japanese street maps on the monitor.

so the current do-dads that are out from the likes of NAVMAN etc that ya bung on your dash and give you an animated fly by map of where you are and where you going along with voice commands are illegal at the moment??

[sAsLEX]

This is NZ,we don't have HUD helmets yet - gotta check your speedo now and then eh? Or is that dangerous too?

yes in fact it is!! especially with older people, looking down at your speedo means your eyes have to readjust which takes time, and then when you look back up, especially if your old it takes a long time for your eyes to return to their previous state of focus!

[Waylander]

This is NZ,we don't have HUD helmets yet - gotta check your speedo now and then eh? Or is that dangerous too?

Takes a total of a few seconds to check your speedo. If your looking at something that has more than a few numbers with a needle pointing to the relevent ones it takes a bit longer to do so. Huds arn't that wide spread in the states either, only the rich peaple can afford them.

[Motu]

so the current do-dads that are out from the likes of NAVMAN etc that ya bung on your dash and give you an animated fly by map of where you are and where you going along with voice commands are illegal at the moment??
Just checked the VIRM - TV sets has GONE!! I thought,oops....lost one when I was updating the manual,but just checked the online version and 7-14 has disapeared.This is inline with removing policing work from AVIs...we are not Policemen,we have no right to tell you whether you can watch TV while driving or not....I don't get paid enough to do that....or see the results of someone actualy doing it.

[Biff]

Just checked the VIRM - TV sets has GONE!! I thought,oops....lost one when I was updating the manual,but just checked the online version and 7-14 has disapeared.

So what does this mean? That it is now 100% ok to have TV sets in the front of a vehicle?

[250learna]

surely one of these would be legal if not on drivers side
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-stereos/Other/auction-26944487.htm

[Motu]

So what does this mean? That it is now 100% ok to have TV sets in the front of a vehicle?
It means it's a matter between you and the Police and not between you and a WoF inspector....

[Wolf]

wThis rule is due for an overhaul soon as GPS with maps becomes commonplace,some of these Jap Imports have Japanese street maps on the monitor.
So instead of being run off the road by some fuckhead yakking on a cellphone or texting his mates, we'll be nailed by fuckheads trying to work out where "Victoria Street" is on the map.

"Sorry, Officer, but my GPS didn't show me there was someone stopped on the road in front..."

[Marmoot]

So instead of being run off the road by some fuckhead yakking on a cellphone or texting his mates, we'll be nailed by fuckheads trying to work out where "Victoria Street" is on the map.

"Sorry, Officer, but my GPS didn't show me there was someone stopped on the road in front..."

That'd be "Careless driving" (used to be "driving without due care and attention"?). Same offense as driving while concentrating on opening a Coke bottle, or driving while putting on makeups.

I think the law is already in place for such things. It is only a matter of whether people are mature enough to act responsibly or not.
No matter what the government set on the WoF regulations, there would always be an idiot driving badly.
People should be responsible for their own action, not simply relying on the government to make 100 volumes of Law guidebooks.

B'sides, GPS system should be better than map that requires you to flip through manually (which some people do while driving)?

[Wolf]

That'd be "Careless driving" (used to be "driving without due care and attention"?). Same offense as driving while concentrating on opening a Coke bottle, or driving while putting on makeups.
Hmmm, that'd be a great comfort to my widow and two sons...

Unfortunately, most drivers seem incapable of behaving responsibly - there are those who can't even adjust a modern car radio without taking their eyes from the road long enough to cross the centreline and wipe out a bike.

What part of which driving test determines that a driver is capable of consulting GPS or reading the latest text from JokeLine without causing an accident? There are a lot of people out there for whom a quich glance in the mirrors and a speed check is a serious test of their driving "abilities", and they want to pass a law allowing them to consult a map?

[Posh Tourer :P]

so the current do-dads that are out from the likes of NAVMAN etc that ya bung on your dash and give you an animated fly by map of where you are and where you going along with voice commands are illegal at the moment??

BMW 7 series has that in-built, but the TV goes off at over 5mph, except for the rear screen.....


Guess what I've just been working on the launch of...... :D:D :Punk:

......along with the promotional girls - I'll try and get a piccie....

[sAsLEX]

BMW 7 series has that in-built, but the TV goes off at over 5mph, except for the rear screen.....


Guess what I've just been working on the launch of...... :D:D :Punk:

......along with the promotional girls - I'll try and get a piccie....

focussing on the "cars" of course!

thought the screen also was used for adjustng the air and radio and everything?

[Brian d marge]

This rule is due for an overhaul soon as GPS with maps becomes commonplace,some of these Jap Imports have Japanese street maps on the monitor.[/QUOTE]

Our car does ...its an Elysion ..and the console next to the driver has the built in navi unit just type in the phone number of where u want ...and a voice will direct you and a 3d map you can watch ..though I use the 2 d ,,one down to 5 meters
It also has tv and DVD functions , but only when the park brake is applied ( though other cars can be viewed when driving dont lnow why ,,,,

Also it can take a pc cars that holds memory sticks and I can put a lot of music on those as well as movies

Finally they installed a decent set of speakers ..no distortion an mind melting levels ....

I wondered about nz laws when I first saw this thing

Stephen

[Hitcher]

If it's not illegal, it should be. Children who require this level of in-car entertainment should be dragged astern. Behind their overindulgent parents.

[Marmoot]

What part of which driving test determines that a driver is capable of consulting GPS or reading the latest text from JokeLine without causing an accident? There are a lot of people out there for whom a quich glance in the mirrors and a speed check is a serious test of their driving "abilities", and they want to pass a law allowing them to consult a map?

None.

I am tempted to talk a long writeup about lack of common sense in a lot of people, but I decided against it as my fingers are aching from this winter cold (is it winter yet?).

Besides, it wouldn't change the situation much just by ranting in here. The only thing we can do is be more vigilant. Riding would become more interesting anyway, and I would enjoy the feeling of being alive everytime I get to park my bike at home without incident.

The more mature you are, the less you let things upset you...I am just trying to get to that level.

Cheerio

[Biff]

If it's not illegal, it should be. Children who require this level of in-car entertainment should be dragged astern. Behind their overindulgent parents....

.....and fed on bread and water and sent to work down the coal mines, only be allowed to play with sticks and thrashed within an inch of their lives should they fail to learn the lord prayer, backwards, in Latin. You cantankerous sod.

I'd rather concentrate on driving on the long trips, as oppossed to have bored kids, screaming, squabbling, and repeating every 10K's, "Are we there yet?".

[Ixion]

.. thrashed within an inch of their lives should they fail to learn the lord prayer, backwards, in Latin. ...


I can recite the Lord's Prayer backwards , in Latin.

It is an accomplishment , acquired at a younger and more gullible age, for which I have found little practical application.

And, unfortunately, no, it does not summon up a demon obliged to grant your wishes. More false advertising dammit.