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Skyryder

10th March 2010, 20:42

At first I thought this was funny..... Then I realized the awful truth of it.
Be sure to read all the way to the end!

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think..

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
It?s time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Airline surcharge tax
Airline Fuel Tax
Airport Maintenance Tax
Building Permit Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Death Tax
Dog License Tax
Driving Permit Tax
Environmental Tax (Fee)
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment (UI)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Gasoline Tax (too much per litre)
Gross Receipts Tax
Health Tax
Hunting License Tax
Hydro Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest Tax
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Mortgage Tax
Personal Income Tax
Property Tax
Poverty Tax
Prescription Drug Tax
Provincial Income and sales tax
Real Estate Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Retail Sales Tax
Service Charge Tax
School Tax
Telephone Federal Tax
Telephone Federal, Provincial and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Water Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
--- and in 2010

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nations were two of the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had a large middle class, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What in "Hell" happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'
Yes "poli" means MANY & "tics" are BLOOD SUCKING INSECTS !
I hope this goes around Australia & New Zealand at least 100 times!!!!! YOU can help it get there!!!

Skyryder

98tls

10th March 2010, 20:48

Paging "John".:wait::wait:

oldrider

10th March 2010, 22:39

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nations were two of the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had a large middle class, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What in "Hell" happened?
Skyryder

True!

What happened? :scratch: We let the media do our thinking for us! :o

These add on taxes on our living conditions and freedoms are the only constant that I have seen in countless successive governments since I can remember!

The first was the Labour government of the 1940's. (Peter Fraser after Joseph Savage died))

Whatever flavour of government you like to name, all of them have contributed to increased taxation!

All that MMP has done is increase "their" job security at the expense of ours!

Spot the difference between the last government and this one, the net result will be the same, higher taxes, less freedom, the rest will be purely cosmetic! :yes:

And they decide among themselves as to who will "govern" us as well! :mellow: Democracy New Zealand style! :shifty: Yeah right!

Pedrostt500

10th March 2010, 23:45

The new Taxes always get added on but the old ones never get removed.

p.dath

11th March 2010, 06:33

Many of those taxes didn't exist 100 years ago OR today. That list looks like it is from another country.

Of course 100 years ago if you had an accident and couldn't afford to pay for it you could die. If you lost your job you and your family would be out on the street. Fish specifies hadn't been made extinct through over fishing. Terrorism of the scale we have was unheard of. Schooling was not available for the poor. There was not a relatively high grade roading network (compared to 100 years ago). You probably have 1 or 2 cars now - as opposed to being lucky to own a horse. You typically only work 40 hours a day in a safe work environment.

So yeah, it costs a lot more but the quality of life is greatly improved.

Maha

11th March 2010, 06:57

Reminds of a song years ago about Norman Kirk....'Big Norm'.

Pixie

11th March 2010, 07:05

Many of those taxes didn't exist 100 years ago OR today. That list looks like it is from another country.

Duh!...........

Laxi

11th March 2010, 07:29

Many of those taxes didn't exist 100 years ago OR today. That list looks like it is from another country.

& our nations ..........Australia & New Zealand

kind of explains it

Tank

11th March 2010, 08:18

Accounts Receivable Tax
Airline surcharge tax
Airline Fuel Tax
Airport Maintenance Tax
Building Permit Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Death Tax
Dog License Tax
Driving Permit Tax
Environmental Tax (Fee)
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment (UI)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Gasoline Tax (too much per litre)
Gross Receipts Tax
Health Tax
Hunting License Tax
Hydro Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest Tax
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Mortgage Tax
Personal Income Tax
Property Tax
Poverty Tax
Prescription Drug Tax
Provincial Income and sales tax
Real Estate Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Retail Sales Tax
Service Charge Tax
School Tax
Telephone Federal Tax
Telephone Federal, Provincial and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Water Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
--- and in 2010

And what are they for - paying for the lazy assed labour voters that believe that everything needs to be handed to them.

If more of them got off their collective asses and didnt survive on handouts - the g'ment wouldnt have to take all the taxes to support the lower groups.

a win-win. Sadly it wont happen because the bludgers will always believe they are entitled to being looked after

Skyryder

11th March 2010, 11:41

And what are they for - paying for the lazy assed labour voters that believe that everything needs to be handed to them.

If more of them got off their collective asses and didnt survive on handouts - the g'ment wouldnt have to take all the taxes to support the lower groups.

a win-win. Sadly it wont happen because the bludgers will always believe they are entitled to being looked after

I see you have missed the 'spirit' of the post.

Skyryder

oldrider

11th March 2010, 13:20

And what are they for - paying for the lazy assed labour voters that believe that everything needs to be handed to them.

If more of them got off their collective asses and didnt survive on handouts - the g'ment wouldnt have to take all the taxes to support the lower groups.

a win-win. Sadly it wont happen because the bludgers will always believe they are entitled to being looked after

The problem is that the apathy of the electorate demands that politicians behave in a way that the bait they offer the prey is to the victim's liking and acceptance!

Very similar to fishing really!

We, the electorate, are our own worst enemy, the politicians respond to the terms we set, the media exploit the situation and push their own agenda's.

I of course believe the media is all left wing biased, Skyryder on the other hand believes that the media are all right wing biased, I guess the truth lays somewhere in between!

Meanwhile we are steadily taxed to death and our freedoms are being stripped away from us piece by precious piece!

It's a case of "A" fighting with "B" for the benefit of "C"!

Who exactly is "C"?

So many men, so many opinions but there is someone out there pulling our strings for their own benefit, if only we could "C" clearly!

Old saying, if it moves tax it, when you can't tax it any more, kill it!

Doesn't matter what flavour the government is, the outcome is always the same!

SPman

11th March 2010, 13:55

Terrorism of the scale we have was unheard of It was unheard of mainly because communications weren't as instant - it was still there, just in a different form....and the Governments of the day were just as bad as now!

We, the electorate, are our own worst enemy, the politicians respond to the terms we set, the media exploit the situation and push their own agenda's.

Quite true, of course.
To (yet again) quote Thomas Jefferson...

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ie, if people don't inform themselves about what is going on and rely on the nebulous "non information" provided by the MSM, they will gradually be subsumed, regardless of what they think is going on, because...
-[I]Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.-

If you don't inform yourself and sit back in apathy assuming everything will be all right because the Gummint knows best, you'll eventually be fucked over, good and proper!

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freedom-wedge

12th March 2010, 07:46

The problem is that the apathy of the electorate demands that politicians behave in a way that the bait they offer the prey is to the victim's liking and acceptance!

Very similar to fishing really!

We, the electorate, are our own worst enemy, the politicians respond to the terms we set, the media exploit the situation and push their own agenda's.

I of course believe the media is all left wing biased, Skyryder on the other hand believes that the media are all right wing biased, I guess the truth lays somewhere in between!

Meanwhile we are steadily taxed to death and our freedoms are being stripped away from us piece by precious piece!

It's a case of "A" fighting with "B" for the benefit of "C"!

Who exactly is "C"?

So many men, so many opinions but there is someone out there pulling our strings for their own benefit, if only we could "C" clearly!

Old saying, if it moves tax it, when you can't tax it any more, kill it!

Doesn't matter what flavour the government is, the outcome is always the same!

I only ever see ballance in your words, and truth, its a shame there are not more people like you, keep on serving your thoughts up its refreshing

pedro

MisterD

12th March 2010, 08:01

And what are they for - paying for the lazy assed labour voters that believe that everything needs to be handed to them.

If more of them got off their collective asses and didnt survive on handouts - the g'ment wouldnt have to take all the taxes to support the lower groups.

a win-win. Sadly it wont happen because the bludgers will always believe they are entitled to being looked after

...a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have...

freedom-wedge

13th March 2010, 07:59

Many of those taxes didn't exist 100 years ago OR today. That list looks like it is from another country.

Of course 100 years ago if you had an accident and couldn't afford to pay for it you could die. If you lost your job you and your family would be out on the street. Fish specifies hadn't been made extinct through over fishing. Terrorism of the scale we have was unheard of. Schooling was not available for the poor. There was not a relatively high grade roading network (compared to 100 years ago). You probably have 1 or 2 cars now - as opposed to being lucky to own a horse. You typically only work 40 hours a day in a safe work environment.

So yeah, it costs a lot more but the quality of life is greatly improved.

All valid points, but evolution has provided improvement also, its when taxation and tyranny amalgamate that’s a concern, it is of late easier to use taxation to solve a problem than any other method. The ACC hikes, which appal you Mr Dath are an example of a tyranny of sorts directed at a section of society of all sorts (bikers) you know the details i have read your post. We need to pay our way, but alas we pay their way too, and there's the rub. The list posted by skyryder will have some nice additions in the next few years

Excuse me Mr Key have you got your mining licence ????

mashman

13th March 2010, 09:28

Meanwhile we are steadily taxed to death and our freedoms are being stripped away from us piece by precious piece!

It's a case of "A" fighting with "B" for the benefit of "C"!

Who exactly is "C"?

So many men, so many opinions but there is someone out there pulling our strings for their own benefit, if only we could "C" clearly!

Old saying, if it moves tax it, when you can't tax it any more, kill it!

Doesn't matter what flavour the government is, the outcome is always the same!

I've often wondered how this pissing contest got started myself... all for a buck.

oldrider

14th March 2010, 10:33

I've often wondered how this pissing contest got started myself... all for a buck.

Well, most of it began with the birth of socialism and is being further advanced by the United Nations and the "New World Order" in their quest for "one world government"!

Taxation is their major tool and the biggest casualty is " individual freedom"

Who does Helen Clark work for now and what position does she hold in that repressive regime of world social engineering and control?

Watch this space! :shifty:

mashman

14th March 2010, 11:13

So she's the Administrator of the United Nations Development Programme. Who do this "It advocates for change and connects countries to knowledge, experience and resources to help people build a better life".

In fact she's "the third highest ranking member of the United Nations after the United Nations Secretary-General and Deputy Secretary-General".

They have 8 "Millennium Development Goals":

Goal 1: Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
Goal 2: Achieve universal primary education
Goal 3: Promote gender equality and empower women
Goal 4: Reduce child mortality
Goal 5: Improve maternal health
Goal 6: Combat HIV/AIDS, malaria,and other diseases
Goal 7: Ensure environmental sustainability
Goal 8: Develop a global partnership for development

"In 2008, UNDP’s entire budget was approximately $5 billion."

"The Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) are eight international development goals that all 192 United Nations member states and at least 23 international organizations have agreed to achieve by the year 2015. They include reducing extreme poverty, reducing child mortality rates, fighting disease epidemics such as AIDS, and developing a global partnership for development."

Have they had a look around recently and seen that it's not working... $5 billion won't even sort NZ out... let alone having a completion date of 2015!!! That's ambitious to say the least... i feel a new thread coming on...