My KTM 690 Adventure

[vegeman]

Yo,
So after the 17" wheels installed, you'd think that the bike would be quicker being geared down with the smaller wheels, but it seems that it would be better with longer legs. I ordered new front sprockets 15 original size, and a 16 to gear it up...all cool there.

On getting home to put the bigger sprocket on, I find that its 'already' a 16..what the!. I don't want to go to 17 tooth (even though I think there is one) but it shows again, that the quick wheel change isn't ideal.

I checked my manual and 15 tooth is the standard on the 690E, so all this time I ahve been on the 16. Its never really felt too tall in gearing, and have done many single tracks, and steep stuff....hmm interesting.

I've now taken off the 17's and dismantling them. I've going to sell the Rims, and buy 21/18 and re lace them. The bike handles best with the bigger wheels, and is absolutely faster and 'quicker' with the taller gearing. These machines have a lot of torque and gearing it up, seems to make the fuel injection work better....whatever, if you are running standard 15/45...throw a 16 on the front and give it a bash.

[Night Falcon]

When I here folks talk about gearing my eyes fog over and my brain starts to hurt, much the same as when they start discussing suspension settings :wacko: In any case I have the standard set up and find it pretty good. I had a 250klm ride before lunch today and it was "freakin awsome", only tarmac and gravel but the bike was totally in the zone!

The thing is a lot of 690's are used as hard enduros (which is totally fine) so the hard core lot complain the gearing is to high but I use mine for light dual sporting and find the gearing excellent. The stock gearing allows me to climb over slow rocky stuff, climb the steep stuff and reak havock on the sandy stuff, power slide on the gravelly bits and hoon on the black top :Police: will be interesting to see what ya think with the right size wheels on :corn:

[NordieBoy]

But your stock suspension is much better than most of us dream of and you've got what? 15hp more to compensate for the gearing.

[Night Falcon]

But your stock suspension is much better than most of us dream of and you've got what? 15hp more to compensate for the gearing.

I was going to mention the suspenders; I have softened the front a couple of clicks but the package is amazing. Soaks up ruts, pot holes, unexpected whoops :facepalm: almost like they're not there. the 690 is perfect for non mechanics like me. just hop on turn key, push starter, twist throatle, try not to fall off :laugh:

[vegeman]

But your stock suspension is much better than most of us dream of and you've got what? 15hp more to compensate for the gearing.

I think you are bang on, the suspension works great at speed...( its stiff for slow stuff... even with every thing set to squishy). So going quicker, use the power, let the bike do the biz.

[vegeman]

I was going to mention the suspenders; I have softened the front a couple of clicks but the package is amazing. Soaks up ruts, pot holes, unexpected whoops :facepalm: almost like they're not there. the 690 is perfect for non mechanics like me. just hop on turn key, push starter, twist throatle, try not to fall off :laugh:

speaking of falling off, how are you ailments?

[Night Falcon]

speaking of falling off, how are you ailments?

coming along, knee is only twice the size of normal now :doh:

[.chris]

Almost finished with my homemade screen.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DytpievIlC8/TsMHZmrS42I/AAAAAAAAKoI/b2CuOSdj3Os/s816/11%2B-%2B1
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hEOsoFm0bdA/TsMHZuPJDFI/AAAAAAAAKoM/bvXg1AiIzcM/s816/11%2B-%2B2

Was all looking pretty good, but it was about 1cm out of alignment so I bent the arms slightly on the bike, and DAMN IT managed to crack the perspex. And now it makes a bit of a squeak sound at speeds, so might be time for version 2. I think I could shape the screen a little better to match the bike, so not too worried.

I am pretty happy with the result, it is obviously a copy of the Touratech mount system, but one hell of a lot cheaeper ($20 perspex, $14 bolts/nuts, recycled alloy from computer case/heat sink)

[NordieBoy]

Try with some lexan?

[.chris]

Try with some lexan?

I don't think that will help me with the stupidity involved with bending the arms while attached to the screen.
I think this stuff is "Makrolon", I just re-attached the arms with a couple of washers in place, which should hold the crack a bit better, have to road test it now.

[NordieBoy]

I don't think that will help me with the stupidity involved with bending the arms while attached to the screen.
I think this stuff is "Makrolon", I just re-attached the arms with a couple of washers in place, which should hold the crack a bit better, have to road test it now.
To crack lexan, the rest of the bike would have to be written off.

[pete-blen]

I don't think that will help me with the stupidity involved with bending the arms while attached to the screen.
I think this stuff is "Makrolon", I just re-attached the arms with a couple of washers in place, which should hold the crack a bit better, have to road test it now.

Drill a 5mm hole at the end of the crack.... stops it in it tracks..
nice looking screen....

[vegeman]

Almost finished with my homemade screen.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DytpievIlC8/TsMHZmrS42I/AAAAAAAAKoI/b2CuOSdj3Os/s816/11%2B-%2B1
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hEOsoFm0bdA/TsMHZuPJDFI/AAAAAAAAKoM/bvXg1AiIzcM/s816/11%2B-%2B2

Was all looking pretty good, but it was about 1cm out of alignment so I bent the arms slightly on the bike, and DAMN IT managed to crack the perspex. And now it makes a bit of a squeak sound at speeds, so might be time for version 2. I think I could shape the screen a little better to match the bike, so not too worried.

I am pretty happy with the result, it is obviously a copy of the Touratech mount system, but one hell of a lot cheaeper ($20 perspex, $14 bolts/nuts, recycled alloy from computer case/heat sink)

looks pretty good. I clearly went for lesser fancy option on my unit. Primariy becaise I wanted protect the headlamp assemlbly from stray rocks more than wind protection $20 perspex vs OEM headlamp. I've had fancy ones before, but still break them to...hence the low tech, replace simply option...rubber strap and zip ties...and they work bloody well

[CrazyFrog]

If you're making another to replace the cracked version, try getting hold of some Lexan rather than Perspex, it's a bit easier to work with, and will bend without adding much heat. It still maintains good flexibility to work with and as Nordie said, you'd have to smash the bike up pretty bad to break Lexan.
I made my EXC screen up from some Lexan obtained at work, and modelled mine on the Touratech 690E version as well.
Any "whitening" you may get from bending, or light surface scratches will disappear with a little applied heat.
Quite cool stuff.

[Night Falcon]

Almost finished with my homemade screen.
Was all looking pretty good, but it was about 1cm out of alignment so I bent the arms slightly on the bike, and DAMN IT managed to crack the perspex. And now it makes a bit of a squeak sound at speeds, so might be time for version 2. I think I could shape the screen a little better to match the bike, so not too worried.

I am pretty happy with the result, it is obviously a copy of the Touratech mount system, but one hell of a lot cheaeper ($20 perspex, $14 bolts/nuts, recycled alloy from computer case/heat sink)

Cool bro, if ya add some slots in the support brackets so you can raise a lower the screen for fine tuning...just like a BMW GS 1200 :cool:

[.chris]

Cool bro, if ya add some slots in the support brackets so you can raise a lower the screen for fine tuning...just like a BMW GS 1200 :cool:

I had intended to do just that, but I screwed up and made the arms too short, so if I slide the screen downward it hits the headlight.
The height of the screen is not particularly high so I don't think it will get in the way unless I am trail riding. Which I can easily take it off.


To crack lexan, the rest of the bike would have to be written off.

Maybe that was what I needed after all. Seems Lexan is a popular product for screens like this.

But if i can minimise this squeaking at speed issue (which I think the washer has done) I won't bother to replace it straight away. But next time, Lexan is on my list.

[pete-blen]

I had intended to do just that, but I screwed up and made the arms too short, so if I slide the screen downward it hits the headlight.
The height of the screen is not particularly high so I don't think it will get in the way unless I am trail riding. Which I can easily take it off.



Maybe that was what I needed after all. Seems Lexan is a popular product for screens like this.

But if i can minimise this squeaking at speed issue (which I think the washer has done) I won't bother to replace it straight away. But next time, Lexan is on my list.


Lexan is a trade name....
The martreial is polycarbonate..
On most polycarbonate sheet the side with a writeing on the covering
is UV treated.. face it out if possable to the sun...

[Night Falcon]

I think I like them for the nice stability on the road/cornering while still having nobbs big enough to feel ok in the dirt. It probably just suits my ride style, I am guessing a TKC80 front would be similar.
I have also run, Sahara 3 to worn out (good road bias/irrelveant due to unavailabity in nz), then a karoo2, then a mt 21 (trademe special), which I did not like much (too buzzy), then a older Karoo which was very offroady and about as buzzy as the MT21, then onto the Karoo2 t, which I reckon is that nice mix between the roady type (sahara3/e07/scout etc) and a proper dirt bike tire.

Hi Chris

can you let me know where you get ya Karoo 2 T front from and price?

cheers
Marty

[.chris]

Hi Chris

can you let me know where you get ya Karoo 2 T front from and price?

cheers
Marty


Came from my local Cycletreads http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/324-metzeler_trail/5204-metzeler_mce_karoo.aspx, was the same price when I got it I think ($144).

[NordieBoy]

Things that make you go hmmmmm.....
251787


Sveedish 690

[Night Falcon]

Things that make you go hmmmmm.....
251787


Sveedish 690

Svat Sveedish 690 ish praty svick lurking and cheep too:

Fairing kit (Rally Raid) $1349.00
Twin fuel tanks $ 815.00
Graphics $ 265.00
Turn signals $ 86.00
Freight $ 150.00
Total (US) $2665.00

Swedish Kronas 18,002.08

New Zealand Dollars $3,416.26 (plus import tax & GST)

All plus the cost of the 690 at about NZ $17,995.00


Vel vorth zit zin my book :facepalm:

[Night Falcon]

Snapped my chain for 2nd time this year. This only had 5k on it (DID 520 HD Gold). Day before Christmas plus munted the front sprocket :crazy: The worst problem going to be getting the front sprocket off :brick: No riding for me over Chrissy :cry:

:doh:
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/IMG_0048.jpg
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/IMG_0047.jpg
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/IMG_0054.jpg
Jimmy to the rescue...thanks bro :niceone:
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/IMG_0053.jpg

[NordieBoy]

Ham fisted KTM owners.

At least the clip link is fine.

The front sprocket looks like it'd last for the DB1K though.

I go for $80 cheapie chains. Then I won't feel as ripped off if they ever break.

[Night Falcon]

Ham fisted KTM owners.

At least the clip link is fine.

The front sprocket looks like it'd last for the DB1K though.

I go for $80 cheapie chains. Then I won't feel as ripped off if they ever break.

Front sprocket free to good home...any tips on how to get it off?

KTM 690 shaft drive mod might be on the cards, KTBMW? :eek5:

[NordieBoy]

...any tips on how to get it off?

1st gear, rattle gun or socket set.

[vegeman]

bummer indeed, surely it has to do with the sand and environemnt? a lot of your photos and locations show that you do seem to gravitate to the beach, so maybe that nasty shit gets in more that we appreciate???

but still a mega pain in the arse for sure, and you are lucky that no crankcase was damaged.

My idea to undo the nut, would use the remains of the chain to wrap around the remnance of that sprocket, and vice grip so that the mother focker don't turn...then the leverage it with your usual tool of choice.

Breaking chains is rare, maybe the 690 is producing too much power :-)

[Pikey]

Moved to correct place :facepalm:

[vegeman]

Hey,
So far, I'm loving the Heidenau rear. The wet weather performance was really good ie swamped highways...today I only had a little time, so I went over the rimutakas for a quick blast as I wanted open in up to see how well it tracked at speed. If you recall the MT21 front caused more speed wobbles, but it seems that it was caused by the rear. Now that I have new front pirelli MT21 for decent offroad tracking and rear K60 for dual sport...I think the combo is excellent.

I threw on my helmet cam to catch a minute or so of some quickish runs. got to 155 of the gravel, and 176 on the slab...straight and true :headbang:

The akra map helps it pull to 8000 easy...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibTR5mg5eBQ

[Night Falcon]

bummer indeed, surely it has to do with the sand and environemnt? a lot of your photos and locations show that you do seem to gravitate to the beach, so maybe that nasty shit gets in more that we appreciate???

but still a mega pain in the arse for sure, and you are lucky that no crankcase was damaged.

My idea to undo the nut, would use the remains of the chain to wrap around the remnance of that sprocket, and vice grip so that the mother focker don't turn...then the leverage it with your usual tool of choice.

Breaking chains is rare, maybe the 690 is producing too much power :-)

Dunno whats casuing so many snappers but don't think its the sand, the chain gets looked after pretty well :confused: Will give her a thorough going over when the new chain & sprokets turn up, maybe an alignment problem with the sprockets, who knows? Have a mate with a rattle gun plus hes also a bike mechanic so hopefully we can spot any problems. On the bright side...atleast the weather has been stink for riding :cool:

[Taz]

That front sprocket looked like it was stuffed well before the chain let go?

[Night Falcon]

Hopefully have the 690 mobile again next week, have to wait for a rear sprocket to arrive. KTM don't have any chains in stock either so will be an RK aftermarket jobby (or wait 3+ weeks from KTM land :shutup:). Hopping to have her back together for the gizzy gravel ride in couple of weeks.

Has been hard work not being able to ride for 3 weeks though....honestly the last 12 months has been sooooo frustrating...either broken rider or broken bike, but mostly broken rider :facepalm: Lucky the dakar is on to keep the fire burning :woohoo:

[vegeman]

Hopefully have the 690 mobile again next week, have to wait for a rear sprocket to arrive. KTM don't have any chains in stock either so will be an RK aftermarket jobby (or wait 3+ weeks from KTM land :shutup:). Hopping to have her back together for the gizzy gravel ride in couple of weeks.

Has been hard work not being able to ride for 3 weeks though....honestly the last 12 months has been sooooo frustrating...either broken rider or broken bike, but mostly broken rider :facepalm: Lucky the dakar is on to keep the fire burning :woohoo:

yeah...it sure sounds like you have had a hard time. I felt the same with my previous XR...I think I broke or wore out everthing (on the bike) and lost all faith in it. I to broke chain so I know how you feel...as for the body, well...I've been lucky for a change.

Which ride you doing?...I'm going up for the east coast safari by Britten up Gisborne...next weekend.

Also...Santa bought me the new Klim Badlands Pro jacket ...so my gear now is all replaced http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzAuu-VI8j8&feature=player_embedded#!

[Night Falcon]

Which ride you doing?...I'm going up for the east coast safari by Britten up Gisborne...next weekend.

Kiwipetes East Cape Adventure is the one I'm headed for...all going well that is!
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/144908-East-Cape-Adventure.-Jan-21-22-2012.-Who-s-keen



Also...Santa bought me the new Klim Badlands Pro jacket ...so my gear now is all replaced http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzAuu-VI8j8&feature=player_embedded#!

Nice coat, the venting will come in handy...its bin pretty warm up this way for past few days! That bloke on the video reminded me of those old "mega memory" adds...those yanks sure can talk up a sale :sleep:

[Night Falcon]

Well I got back from Gizzy today with the KTM in tow :facepalm: Refitted the 2nd new chain in two weeks, replaced the clutch control and and gave her a check over. I've trebble checked the chain tension which is set to the factory sag (from the 690 workshop manual). But I have to admit I feel like the nervous father of the bride who has maticulously planned and prepared his daughters wedding and can only hope the crazy uncle dosn't show up and ruin the reception :bash:

Thanks to Alison and Bob for looking after my broken bike for a week, you guys rock :Punk: Oh and if your reading this Clint I owe you for one joining link...that link saved me a looooooong walk to civilization :sweatdrop

[vegeman]

Well I got back from Gizzy today with the KTM in tow :facepalm: Refitted the 2nd new chain in two weeks, replaced the clutch control and and gave her a check over. I've trebble checked the chain tension which is set to the factory sag (from the 690 workshop manual). But I have to admit I feel like the nervous father of the bride who has maticulously planned and prepared his daughters wedding and can only hope the crazy uncle dosn't show up and ruin the reception :bash:

Thanks to Alison and Bob for looking after my broken bike for a week, you guys rock :Punk: Oh and if your reading this Clint I owe you for one joining link...that link saved me a looooooong walk to civilization :sweatdrop

WTF is happening with you an chains...am I reading this right. Did this one, come undone, more than fail? - I can see how you'd be nervous indeed.

I also got back from Gizzy as part of the Yamaha safari ride...great fun, the bike was excellent. One issue...which leads me to ask since you mentioned clutch...what clutch control? level, slave or master? (I'm going to order a sigutech new slave)...as I had clutch issues on my ride.

On my ride back up, I had the clutch start slipping under full power when over taking on the road...eek, I seriously thought I rooted the clutch...so instead of riding all the way home, I stayed at a mates place in napier and while thinking...I recall that the clutch wear causes fluid to rise in the master. Long story short, removed the master cylinder fuild cover and oil shot out...ah, that will be it. The clutch functioned without slipping BUT I now 'think' its worn. Have changed engine oil, and clutch fluid...and I think its notchy now (I know my brain is over-reacting) but it did wear, and I did ride it hard at times.

...also do you have a sprocket saver billet cover, instead of the plastic - after this many chains, you;d know if they are worth it.

V

[Night Falcon]

Hi Veg, Yes you are reading things right that is another snapped chain, anyway I'm sure there is a logical reason for it. Am ordering a clutch control protector from tourtech AU, cheaper than new control unit for sure! Bad news on ya clutch definately sounds like some worn plates. :facepalm:

After bleeding my clutch I noticed one of my tank bolts was loose which is a pain cos means removing the safari tank to get at it, but then disovered it had sheared in half :brick: so had to remove the rear end to get the other half of the bolt out, gave me agood opertunity to check her over, found the battery earth lead had worn 1/3 through, I not a superstitous person by any means but I'm starting to think I must have run over a black cat or 6 <_<

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[vegeman]

Hi Veg, Yes you are reading things right that is another snapped chain, anyway I'm sure there is a logical reason for it. Am ordering a clutch control protector from tourtech AU, cheaper than new control unit for sure! Bad news on ya clutch definately sounds like some worn plates. :facepalm:

After bleeding my clutch I noticed one of my tank bolts was loose which is a pain cos means removing the safari tank to get at it, but then disovered it had sheared in half :brick: so had to remove the rear end to get the other half of the bolt out, gave me agood opertunity to check her over, found the battery earth lead had worn 1/3 through, I not a superstitous person by any means but I'm starting to think I must have run over a black cat or 6 <_<

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Were you already running with the upgraded tank bolts>? or were they original? - I heard that these fail, so I'd already replaced top and bottom bolts. It didn't however stop the bolt shearing the welded nut off the frame tho. The Rally Raid bolt are a two step process. high tensile from the outside, and high tensile cap bolt from the inside (now I know why they do it that way, as the weld can't come off if its bolted right through)

My clutch seems to be ok, its not slipping and I can change ok and find nuetral at the lights...so lets just keep it going - 24,000K's now - and original chain, so god knows what the hell you are doing with your chain :yes: - very strange

[.chris]

Were you already running with the upgraded tank bolts>? or were they original? - I heard that these fail, so I'd already replaced top and bottom bolts. It didn't however stop the bolt shearing the welded nut off the frame tho. The Rally Raid bolt are a two step process. high tensile from the outside, and high tensile cap bolt from the inside (now I know why they do it that way, as the weld can't come off if its bolted right through)

My clutch seems to be ok, its not slipping and I can change ok and find nuetral at the lights...so lets just keep it going - 24,000K's now - and original chain, so god knows what the hell you are doing with your chain :yes: - very strange

I got about 24,000km out of my stock chain/sprockets, we must be doing something right :yes:
And I can't in all honesty say I looked after the chain very well.

Sure does suck breaking chains this often, maybe you need to carry a spare in your tool kit?

I have been trying to get out on my 690, but seem to struggle to get enough time to get anywhere fun. I have been doing a little commute on it during the week, which tearing up the rush hour traffic can sure be fun.
I have been thinking I might chuck the 6-Days nobblies on her and do a few trail rides. But then I need to switch em back for the commute, which means about $80 in tire switching alone, which makes for a expensive trail ride.

[dino3310]

I have been thinking I might chuck the 6-Days nobblies on her and do a few trail rides. But then I need to switch em back for the commute, which means about $80 in tire switching alone, which makes for a expensive trail ride.

or every sunday buy a six pack spend an hour in the shed and change them your self, would save ya $60 and turn ya into an ace tire changer on KB rides:laugh:

[.chris]

or every sunday buy a six pack spend an hour in the shed and change them your self, would save ya $60 and turn ya into an ace tire changer on KB rides:laugh:

I tried that once, (even sans the six pack) too over 2 hours to change the front my hands hurt like hell for days, and I pinched the tube and ended up taking it to cycletreads anyway.
But yeah, maybe I should have a crack at doing a rear tire.

[Night Falcon]

Were you already running with the upgraded tank bolts>? or were they original? - I heard that these fail, so I'd already replaced top and bottom bolts. It didn't however stop the bolt shearing the welded nut off the frame tho. The Rally Raid bolt are a two step process. high tensile from the outside, and high tensile cap bolt from the inside (now I know why they do it that way, as the weld can't come off if its bolted right through)

Mine are the stock jobbies but have ordered the RR replacement ones this morning :yes:


Sure does suck breaking chains this often, maybe you need to carry a spare in your tool kit? sucks alrighty but least I'm collecting lots of joining links for a rainy day :pinch:

I have been trying to get out on my 690, but seem to struggle to get enough time to get anywhere fun. I have been doing a little commute on it during the week, which tearing up the rush hour traffic can sure be fun.
I have been thinking I might chuck the 6-Days nobblies on her and do a few trail rides. But then I need to switch em back for the commute, which means about $80 in tire switching alone, which makes for a expensive trail ride.

$80.00 seems a bit steep, I only pay $20.00 a tire thats with me taking the wheels off and dropping them off though, I could do them myself but I hate changing tires plus I'm too lazy and the pros are much faster, plus it gives them a job and thats good for the industry and the country :innocent: all the same I'd be shopping around for a thriftier tube and tire takeroffer if I wis you :corn:.

[.chris]

Mine are the stock jobbies but have ordered the RR replacement ones this morning :yes:



$80.00 seems a bit steep, I only pay $20.00 a tire thats with me taking the wheels off and dropping them off though, I could do them myself but I hate changing tires plus I'm too lazy and the pros are much faster, plus it gives them a job and thats good for the industry and the country :innocent: all the same I'd be shopping around for a thriftier tube and tire takeroffer if I wis you :corn:.

Yeah, that is $20 per tyre. Have to pay to get the knobblies put on both ends, then take em off again for the commute.

[Night Falcon]

Yeah, that is $20 per tyre. Have to pay to get the knobblies put on both ends, then take em off again for the commute.

oh yeah doh! seein were doin the math, 10 changes is $800.00 which is starting to make spare wheels look affordable, specially if ya can get some cheap second handers....maybe some motards even :yes:

[Night Falcon]

Rally Raid tank bolt kit turned up, 7days from date of order from UK, still waiting for ktm parts ordered 5 weeks ago from oztria <_<

[vegeman]

Hi Veg, Yes you are reading things right that is another snapped chain, anyway I'm sure there is a logical reason for it. Am ordering a clutch control protector from tourtech AU, cheaper than new control unit for sure! Bad news on ya clutch definately sounds like some worn plates. :facepalm:

After bleeding my clutch I noticed one of my tank bolts was loose which is a pain cos means removing the safari tank to get at it, but then disovered it had sheared in half :brick: so had to remove the rear end to get the other half of the bolt out, gave me agood opertunity to check her over, found the battery earth lead had worn 1/3 through, I not a superstitous person by any means but I'm starting to think I must have run over a black cat or 6 <_<



Do you have any close up photos of the broken links so we can see what part is breaking? - curious, as the way it breaks can often determine the reason -

Also...since you had dramas, I pushed the limit of my chain with the East Coast ride...and its well and truly streeeeetched. So just installed new front sprocket 16th, DID 520VX2 and then a 45T stealth supersprox. I'm not sure I'll keep the rear sprox, as its teeth are really thick and square (which is where the get their longer life from) but it makes for a very very snug fit (too tight for my liking) - I know it should wear in...but you've made me nervous...so will get a Renthal or OEM.

I'm of the opinion that everything wears together, so having a rear lasting 3 times longer with a stretch worn chain doesn't make sense for me.

I've also order the Rally Raid front sprocket protector and also the Sigutech replacement clutch slave cylinder (I don't need it, but its more bling, anodized orange and has 2 oil rings instead of one...so that makes it much betterer) so I then have a spare in case the unthinkable happens.

:eek:

[Night Falcon]

Do you have any close up photos of the broken links so we can see what part is breaking? - curious, as the way it breaks can often determine the reason -

Also...since you had dramas, I pushed the limit of my chain with the East Coast ride...and its well and truly streeeeetched. So just installed new front sprocket 16th, DID 520VX2 and then a 45T stealth supersprox. I'm not sure I'll keep the rear sprox, as its teeth are really thick and square (which is where the get their longer life from) but it makes for a very very snug fit (too tight for my liking) - I know it should wear in...but you've made me nervous...so will get a Renthal or OEM.

I'm of the opinion that everything wears together, so having a rear lasting 3 times longer with a stretch worn chain doesn't make sense for me.

I've also order the Rally Raid front sprocket protector and also the Sigutech replacement clutch slave cylinder (I don't need it, but its more bling, anodized orange and has 2 oil rings instead of one...so that makes it much betterer) so I then have a spare in case the unthinkable happens.

:eek:

Pics of chain attached. I'm putting it down to a stone or rock as it has clearly been stretched and was set at spec tension (30mm from underside front chain guide and 5mm from swing arm).

No need to be nervous I,ve aready used all the bad luck chain karma for both of us! :facepalm:

[Tony W]

Pics of chain attached. I'm putting it down to a stone or rock as it has clearly been stretched and was set at spec tension (30mm from underside front chain guide and 5mm from swing arm).

No need to be nervous I,ve aready used all the bad luck chain karma for both of us! :facepalm:

WHAT lube do you use on your chain ?

Is it O-ring, X-ring, or...?

[Night Falcon]

WHAT lube do you use on your chain ?

Is it O-ring, X-ring, or...?

RK HD Xring brand new. scottoiler and oil plus spray on chain lube.

[NordieBoy]

Does look like something a stone could do.
A bloody solid stone though.

[vegeman]

Pics of chain attached. I'm putting it down to a stone or rock as it has clearly been stretched and was set at spec tension (30mm from underside front chain guide and 5mm from swing arm).

No need to be nervous I,ve aready used all the bad luck chain karma for both of us! :facepalm:

I've heard that the stronger the chains, the more susceptible they can be to instantaneous fractures, like many toughened products...under the right conditions they will shatter. I've no doubt that all your guides and stuff aren't worn so perhaps some rogue object just caught it at the wrong time.

I see the use of the beloved vicegrips, gotta have them for sure. Mine are currently still performing as my rear brake pedal until the new one arrives. Its been on there for 1000k's now :-)

The other thing I'm working on is getting the suspension mainly the forks sorted, as we know they are harsh for trail riding or anything that needs fast fork action. Have you thought about getting them tuned to be more responsive?

[Tony W]

RK HD Xring brand new. scottoiler and oil plus spray on chain lube.

Shyte, can't fault that setup.:no:

A mystery indeed.:mellow:

[Night Falcon]

Does look like something a stone could do.
A bloody solid stone though. The road we were on had just been graded (we past the grader 5 mins prior) but the surface was rock hard and all the grader was doing was dragging up broken stones/rocks to the surface so I'm theroizing one loose one got into the wrong place.


I've heard that the stronger the chains, the more susceptible they can be to instantaneous fractures, like many toughened products...under the right conditions they will shatter. I've no doubt that all your guides and stuff aren't worn so perhaps some rogue object just caught it at the wrong time.

I see the use of the beloved vicegrips, gotta have them for sure. Mine are currently still performing as my rear brake pedal until the new one arrives. Its been on there for 1000k's now :-)

The other thing I'm working on is getting the suspension mainly the forks sorted, as we know they are harsh for trail riding or anything that needs fast fork action. Have you thought about getting them tuned to be more responsive?

You can only see one cracked link in the pics but there were 4 others (plus the one that snapped) so your stonger chain susceptibilty theroy sure looks a strong probability?

I never go anywhere with out my trusty vicies, some duct tape and support vehicle <_<

[Night Falcon]

It Lives!! Awsome test ride today, no broken bike or tow truck required :wings:


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[Night Falcon]

The other thing I'm working on is getting the suspension mainly the forks sorted, as we know they are harsh for trail riding or anything that needs fast fork action. Have you thought about getting them tuned to be more responsive?

missed this in ya post. The stiff setup has its plus and minuses for me. It is a tad hard for slow speed hits but has saved my bacon a few times hitting potholes at higher speed. The faster you push the bike the better it performs.

On my wish list for the 690 is a steering damper and front and rear suspender tuning tilored to my size and 95kg frame. Bryan Patterson (Patterson Oconner Rotorua) is a guru on all things spring related but I know I'm gonna need to get a bigger spring for the rear ($300.00) as a minimum so it anit going to be a cheap exercise. At the moment by bike fund has taken a bit of a beating so most likely be a while before I can afford to do anything. :wait:

[vegeman]

Hey,
After your chains snapping, and my clutch slip...I bought the rally raid billet sprocket cover/saver and installed the new slave cylinder...it all went together perfectly so nice to know that you can have two different suppliers sticking to the tolerances etc. My clutch seems to be ok now, the full fluid in the master was the issue, so fresh oil, fresh fluid. All good.

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[Night Falcon]

Hey,
After your chains snapping, and my clutch slip...I bought the rally raid billet sprocket cover/saver and installed the new slave cylinder...it all went together perfectly so nice to know that you can have two different suppliers sticking to the tolerances etc. My clutch seems to be ok now, the full fluid in the master was the issue, so fresh oil, fresh fluid. All good.

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Noice set up! My new countershaft nut and genuine ktm sprocket turned up today so alls good in hood once again! :yes:

[Night Falcon]

Went for quick fang this morning before going off to see Rod this arvo at the Mission....got stuck in the mud :brick:

[NordieBoy]

Went for quick fang this morning before going off to see Rod this arvo at the Mission....got stuck in the mud :brick:

You need some decent tyres.

[Night Falcon]

You need some decent tyres.

Yup can't argue with you there, will be looking for a more aggressive front shortly, the K60 on the rear isn't much chop in mud or grass but I like it for most everything else, plus its got more than 5k on it with probably another 1-2k left before its completely bald so has been one of the longest wearing tires I've had. Might get another one when its toast. I have a half worn T63 in the shed that I was saving for this years Capital Coast Adv but thats been canned so might stick that on for autum riding.

[NordieBoy]

Yup can't argue with you there, will be looking for a more aggressive front shortly, the K60 on the rear isn't much chop in mud or grass but I like it for most everything else, plus its got more than 5k on it with probably another 1-2k left before its completely bald so has been one of the longest wearing tires I've had. Might get another one when its toast. I have a half worn T63 in the shed that I was saving for this years Capital Coast Adv but thats been canned so might stick that on for autum riding.

Well yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of a Shinko 705, but a T63 may work too.

[Eddieb]

Well yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of a Shinko 705

So predictable Nordie :bleh:

[NordieBoy]

So predictable Nordie :bleh:

Never hurts to be predictable :D

[vegeman]

Went for quick fang this morning before going off to see Rod this arvo at the Mission....got stuck in the mud :brick:

tyre schmyre...speed is what you needed! if in doubt, crack it and worry about it on the other side of the mud hole :-)

Speaking of tires though...my K60, has about 3K and is about half worn I guess so good life.

Its just starting to show some lack of grip now which is expected I guess. I had the rear step out on the road, under power which surprised me...so I'm not sure if it was the road itself, or just wear, plus I noticed today that it locked under braking now to...no big deal.

I agree that the mud/grass is poor...and this is because the sidewalls are so fricken stiff, they can't bend to grab the grass and stuff. If I had to go a long ride that was going to punishing to the tires i.e. rocks, I'd take it every time. For multi terrain stuff (mud, grass etc), and not being able to drop the air out and let them deform bothers me now. I think the MITAS E07 will likely be reinstalled as they worked real good on the 690.

I'm going to get another set of wheels and then have another set to off road tires (still dual sport probably M21, T63,E09)

[Night Falcon]

tyre schmyre...speed is what you needed! if in doubt, crack it and worry about it on the other side of the mud hole :-)

Speaking of tires though...my K60, has about 3K and is about half worn I guess so good life.

Its just starting to show some lack of grip now which is expected I guess. I had the rear step out on the road, under power which surprised me...so I'm not sure if it was the road itself, or just wear, plus I noticed today that it locked under braking now to...no big deal.

I agree that the mud/grass is poor...and this is because the sidewalls are so fricken stiff, they can't bend to grab the grass and stuff. If I had to go a long ride that was going to punishing to the tires i.e. rocks, I'd take it every time. For multi terrain stuff (mud, grass etc), and not being able to drop the air out and let them deform bothers me now. I think the MITAS E07 will likely be reinstalled as they worked real good on the 690.

I'm going to get another set of wheels and then have another set to off road tires (still dual sport probably M21, T63,E09)

the way the weather is up this way I'm gonna need some grip for autum/winter riding to get anywhere even looking like off road. Might try MT21 front and E07 on the rear when the T63 gets too slick!

[bart]

Just catching up on your thread. Surprised about the chains breaking. I often wondered why they didn't go to a 525 chain. These are standard on DR650's (which is overkill), but you start poking out 60+ horses, you need a good chain.

[Night Falcon]

Just catching up on your thread. Surprised about the chains breaking. I often wondered why they didn't go to a 525 chain. These are standard on DR650's (which is overkill), but you start poking out 60+ horses, you need a good chain.

cant dissagree with that Bart! Just come back from a quick spin and checked the chain for tension/oil/wear... looks good! I'm not paranoid about snapping another chain or anything, but that dosn't mean they wont break when ya not looking :shutup:

[Night Falcon]

Cracker day in the bay for riding today. Hopefully it will be same for the RRRR next weekend

[vegeman]

Well, I was having such a good day...and then had a freak incident, which saw me and the 690 get squashed...and my bones are not as strong as the the 690's steel!

I rode the boom rock/ohariu vallye trail ride yesterday, and was so enjoing the bike. I had installed a full set of real knobblies, dropped the front sprocket and it transferred the macine into a real trail machine. Sure its still heavy but it went really well...

so Long story short, as I'm in hosptial bed and feeling shit...there was an A-loop hill climb, which I didnt make to the top, and therefore had to go back down for another go BUT on the way down the steep hill, the bike dropped into a fucking deep hidden hole which swallowed me and the bike...not sure of how it all exactly happeneding but with the front buried it cartwheels with my leg trapped...snap, crackle and pop!!!.

Tibia and fibula broken, up by the knee which isn't good...westpac chopper ride to wellington hospital...I'm here for a few weeks!!!!

Everything was going soo well, and now I'm shafted... thx to everyone who helped.

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[.chris]

Shit man, that is no good. Hope your recovery goes well.

But great to hear I am not the only one who puts knobblies on their 690 and hits the trail rides. :2thumbsup

[NordieBoy]

Bugger :(

How's the bike?

[Eddieb]

Oh crap, sorry to hear that.

It's been a bad riding season this year.

[richyrich]

bit of bad luck there Veg,i know what it's like to break the tib n fib. most important,how's the bike :-)
my 690 has only ever known proper knobbies.
hope you mend quickly.

[andy mac]

Hey Vege, you weren't listening to the briefing when they said they didn't want to use the Westpac helicopter, were you?
This is the culprit hill, where I also was overwhelmed by gravity.
Hope that makes you feel happier & quick healing :doctor:

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[NordieBoy]

This is the culprit hill, where I also was overwhelmed by gravity.

Those hills that have no defined track down and are crisscrossed by sheep tracks give me the shits.

[vegeman]

Shit man, that is no good. Hope your recovery goes well.

But great to hear I am not the only one who puts knobblies on their 690 and hits the trail rides. :2thumbsup

Yeah....thanks I hope it goes well to. The break is below the knee so its going to be bit of a pain to repair...but we'll see. I'm in good condition...so hopefully that will help.

Yes, I was really pleased with the bike with real fresh knobblies...the bike felt good, which may have given me more mojo...as normally I refrain from the A stuff, just becaise the bike has a bit of weight, and can make it a handful if I cock it up, which clearly came true.

Nordie...I haven't seen the bike, but I think I broke one indicator...amd also broke off the Hero cam off the helmet. I 'may' have footage but my mate feels that the movie file is there, but it has an issue, I'll have a better look once I get back home

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[vegeman]

Hey Vege, you weren't listening to the briefing when they said they didn't want to use the Westpac helicopter, were you?
This is the culprit hill, where I also was overwhelmed by gravity.
Hope that makes you feel happier & quick healing :doctor:

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ha, good stuff indeed...yes thats mother father....I just shouldn't have had a go, ...stupid, dumb !@#

and yes, me no listen :facepalm:

[Night Falcon]

Hey Veg Sorry to hear bout ya leg mate that sounds nasty!!!

Just got out of hospital today myself after 9 days. Have been very unwell since returning from Phuket turned out I had ruptured my appendix couple days after returning but not diagnosed for further 14days....major surgery insued and 9 days of what I can only describe as "hell" trying to overcome infections, but on the mend now.

take care

NF

[vegeman]

Hey thanks, and nice to hear from you (yuk, infections are bad in so many ways)....

Today was a good day...as I just had the main operation today rebuild the tibia platter. I was wheel down to theatre at 10am and back to ward at 7pm (I'm amazed really, on how good I feel)

The main reason for the positive attitude was to do with the results from the CT scan, and that the top of the tibia was pulverized by my femur, I asked the specialist 'how bad' and he said that take some weetbix, then hit that with a hammer...bugger huh. So the bone was splintered and then pulverized, and then with all the bits in the kneecap...feeling pretty bummed before going into what will be my 5th operation under full general.

Then many hours later, I awake in recovery and get informed that the operation went as good as it go, and probably better. They didn't need bone tissue extracted from my pelvis, they didn't need skin grafts, the only needed 1 plate instead of 2, and best of all, I will have a smooth bearing surface on the tibia....which considering that didn't exist in its current state, is simple amazing.

I gotta go...my eyes can't stay open

Later
good to hear that you are healing

[Aslan]

Sorry to read of your injury vergeman - wishing you all the best for your recovery

[vegeman]

hey...did the unveiling and planning to get out tomorrow...thought I'd post a pic of the engineering work...pretty cool shit.

the big scars/cuts in either side relate to the complication of the compartment syndrome..do those were the 'release cuts' to get the pressure out.

10 days later, they worked on the pulverized tibia...which is what the halo thing around the top is doing. I count 10 wires (probably 5 ins and outs) going into the leg which is individually holding a broken bit in place. The external carbon rods are connected to steel pins drilled into the lower tibia and hold the halo in place. there is also a titanium alloy plate and 2 screws, that add to the strength so...its all pretty secure.

Am lucky I have all the frame stuff below the knee which means I should get some movement once the swelling goes down. Not sure about things like cartilage and ligaments ...but these can be addressed later.




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[Night Falcon]

Yeowch! :gob:

you have to admire the engineering work going on there, maybe those doctors might like to do some moonlighting building rally bikes :corn:

[DR Girl]

Vegeman, you poor thing. Was so sorry to read. Coming into winter you will need to keep that leg & foot warm esp at night. Maybe get a lekky blanket ? Also like many others, have been there with West Pac chopper ride after a trail ride. :facepalm: Funny how we NEVER think it will be us in one of those & just think poor bugger as it leaves. I broke fibula top & bottom & tibia in 3 places just above the ankle & radius in wrist in2 many bits. I was lucky they fixed me with a rod & plates but I was very close to getting the outside engineering like you.:shit:
Other then a lump of extra bone just above my angle & a lot of faint scars I'm pretty much back to new. Lots of physio. swimming & strengthening work at the gym tho. Fast speed with your recovery. My thoughts are with you.

Marty, you didn't look good when I saw you at Hv Nth Mobil, :sick: no wonder !!. You would have been in a lot of pain & I imagine only with Panadol. Glad they got to the bottom of it & you are on the mend. Take care & let me know when you are up to riding. OR LOL I could exercise the 690 for you. :msn-wink::msn-wink::msn-wink:

[vegeman]

Vegeman, you poor thing. Was so sorry to read. Coming into winter you will need to keep that leg & foot warm esp at night. Maybe get a lekky blanket ? Also like many others, have been there with West Pac chopper ride after a trail ride. :facepalm: Funny how we NEVER think it will be us in one of those & just think poor bugger as it leaves. I broke fibula top & bottom & tibia in 3 places just above the ankle & radius in wrist in2 many bits. I was lucky they fixed me with a rod & plates but I was very close to getting the outside engineering like you.:shit:
Other then a lump of extra bone just above my angle & a lot of faint scars I'm pretty much back to new. Lots of physio. swimming & strengthening work at the gym tho. Fast speed with your recovery. My thoughts are with you.


thx for you support and sharing war stories. I've been in hospital 13 days now, and have seen people come and go...whats been interesting is how most of the accidents have been just that...accidental and down right unlucky. I've replayed all the what if's on that ride...and sure, perhaps there was an option to affect the outcome but am accepting that it was just a freak event. no one knew the hole was there. I had the NZSO violinist who was trying to improve his cellphone coverage, and tripped down the stairs to land nicely on both knee caps. Saved his hands and fingers but pulled both quads and ligaments of each knee cap. ouch.

There was another story about a guy riding his horse for mustering and during a steep climb up the hill the horse lost traction, in that split second of trying to jump off, he tumbled down the small bank only to have the horse land on him and completely crush his pelvis...

shit just happens.

I should walk again (running or carrying a pack will be marginal) but still can hug my kids, and I'll be riding again in no time...so I'm quite positive about the hole thing.


PS...whats was the Marty thing? in the same thread...I was trying to relate the two together, as I also ride the 690...so got confused. I am on paraceatamol, ibuprofen, (off the morphine now) tramadol, severdol, pussy-cat-dol - lol

[DR Girl]

Sorry Vegeman, the last paragraph was to Night Falcon ( Marty ). That will teach me to multi task. LOL
You are right it's just one of those things that happen. I wasn't even do any thing tooooo difficult at the time, just a bit too fast down a grassy hill, standing on my foot pegs & it was the metal tank that clunked hard on my left leg & busted it on v hard ground. My right wrist just because I tried to stop myself rolling down the hill.
Never had a broken limb or a stitch in my life, & believe me I've had some good offs on trail rides prior. :facepalm:
I was in hospital only for 5days, then back again for another op for 2 days & during that time had a similar aged 50 year female in with a broken leg for just falling down a back step with a washing basket. Course she didn't have the metal work I had, but in a weird way I felt good because I was ( as you were) out there DOING IT & going HARD :Punk: And 3 years on I still have heaps to talk about re that ride & plenty of photo's. You will be same. It wasn't easy for my hubby & kids having to do all the work that I would normally do & to care for me. But they soon got into a routine.
I love being back riding again & are doing more Adv riding than dirt now to be safe. Any down hill dirt rides under similar conditions do put the willy's into me but I guess I just need to harden up or close my eyes. :shit:

[vegeman]

you make me laugh...nice work DRgirl...

I look forward to catching up with Marty and the rest of the crew. I'll make special trip up to the hwakes for some event..so we can all share scars:Punk:

[Night Falcon]

Marty, you didn't look good when I saw you at Hv Nth Mobil, :sick: no wonder !!. You would have been in a lot of pain & I imagine only with Panadol. Glad they got to the bottom of it & you are on the mend. Take care & let me know when you are up to riding. OR LOL I could exercise the 690 for you. :msn-wink::msn-wink::msn-wink:

Hi DR Girl, yup turned out I was a lot sicker than I thought, but least I have another 8 inch scar to show off to the grand kids one day as well as another tall story to tell :facepalm:. Hopefully won't be too long before I'm up to riding again, the 690 is getting used to being parked up in the shed so hopefully it wont feel too neglected, although I do talk to it most days :shifty:


you make me laugh...nice work DRgirl...

I look forward to catching up with Marty and the rest of the crew. I'll make special trip up to the hwakes for some event..so we can all share scars:Punk:

Look forward to sharing war stories sometime (despite the fact I'm an amature at breaking myself compared to you and DR Girl :doctor:)

[DR Girl]

you make me laugh...nice work DRgirl...

I look forward to catching up with Marty and the rest of the crew. I'll make special trip up to the hwakes for some event..so we can all share scars:Punk:

Glad I could be of service lol.
Look forward to meeting you up in the Bay when you are all tickity boo. We will avoid the down hills eh :laugh: & maybe keep to donuts on the beach. Yes re the scars, Marty is catching you fast. I'll bring my pretty blue titanium rod & bag of screws :blip:

Love your positive attitude & desire to be back on the knobblied beast ASAP :rockon:

[DR Girl]

Hi DR Girl, yup turned out I was a lot sicker than I thought, but least I have another 8 inch scar to show off to the grand kids one day as well as another tall story to tell :facepalm:. Hopefully won't be too long before I'm up to riding again, the 690 is getting used to being parked up in the shed so hopefully it wont feel too neglected, although I do talk to it most days :shifty:



Look forward to sharing war stories sometime (despite the fact I'm an amature at breaking myself compared to you and DR Girl :doctor:)

Your tortured ankle accident was pretty impressive . . . . . . . . & you still have more work to be done on it to get you back on the dance floor :wari:

Any photo's of your new scar ?? ;)

[vegeman]

so I received the X-rays and CT scans a few days ago, and they are pretty cool.

After being majorly bummed about the future, before the operations...and how the Surgeons were saying how badly I have smashed the top off the tibia, I feel real good about seeing the repair, and how that they assembled the good pieces into a tibia plateau...and that they have made a smooth surface, meaning that I should *fingers crossed* be ok.

I think all my ligaments and tendons and nerves all survived as well...so at this stage...I'm one unlucky lucky bastard.

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the second photo is a slice of CT scan, and really represents what the Doctors were saying about how my femur seems to have pile driven into the tibia.

the final two show the screws that hold the big smashed pieces in place...and seeing the gap between the femur and tib is amazing as that is my cartilage and gap...wow

[DR Girl]

So pleased to hear things are looking better then first expected. That 2nd film shows it all !!! :shit:
How are you holding up at home ?
I got so frustrated :argh: at not being to do anything with both a arm & leg out of action & ACC being so bad at wanting to help me with home help that I got a bit down for a couple days. Then thought bugger this, & dragged myself out into the sun & around the garden on my bum & gardened with my one arm (not easy when it's your left). I was lucky as it was March :sunny: . . . Back to the land of happy faces LOL :D :D
A visit to the chiropractor early on (week 2) was very helpful to get my back, neck, pelvis into line as I couldn't get comfortable sitting or in bed prior to that.

Keep us up dated & keep that chin up :msn-wink:

[vegeman]

well, I'm still healing and making good progress. I did have a wee incident that involved wife tripping/kicking someones sticking out leg! :Oops:...which sent me back a week or two. So While the leg got twisted and hurt the knee ligaments...it did prove that the bone was healing well!!! - as for healing the relationship...well that will take a bit longer :yes:. Clearly, being married means it was my fault for putting it a place she couldn't see, and I'm lucky she didn't fall also and hurt herself which would have made for a right messed up couple...lol

I've had a decent check up and the surgeon is very happy. I'm allowed to put some weight on it which means I can start rehab exercises. I've got/had 100 degrees of movement on the knee joint which is awesome (lost 20 degrees after the aforementioned bash from the wife). I'm allowed to shower the frame work now, AND because its my left leg...my right leg can operate the brake/go fast pedals in the 4WD...so I'm now driving the cage - yay for mobility!!!!!

The frame work is doing such a good job that the surgeon will leave it on to the bitter end...which means my forrest Gump attachment will be on for another 3 - 4 months - so it really will be that long before I ride the 690 again...

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its winter, so I guess I can cope...but I really do miss the machine. And the next person who says are you going to sell the bike, or bikes are dangerous... will likely get one of my crutches, right in their crotch - :ar15:

[Night Falcon]

hi veg, I know exactly what your going through and yes it does get up ya spleen when people tell you to sell your bike :mad: I like to tell them the story of a freind of mines wife who broke her leg walking the dog when it took off on the lead and she tripped over the kerbing....no one told her to sell the dog!! You'll be back riding before ya know it, just keep away form long grass.

I was planning on getting out on my 690 for the first time in 5 weeks today but went to start her up only to find the battery was deaderer than the Greek economy :weep: got it on the charger so hope it aint completly poked. You might need to get a volunteer to take your 690 for the odd spin to keep it fit an healthy over the winter :cold:

[vegeman]

... You might need to get a volunteer to take your 690 for the odd spin to keep it fit an healthy over the winter :cold:

I start my bike at least once a week and then we talk about the good times we had, and how many more good times we have planned :-) so no chance of getting the dead batt syndrome which I see happen for you...bum.

I installed a motobatt in the machine at the beginning of the year, as I think I had one moment with the orwhich showed signs that the battery was on its way out. The motobatts seem to be pretty strong, and have good endurance to date...albeit I had a DOA issue with the first time unit it, but go it swapped out on the spot from the dealer.

[Night Falcon]

I start my bike at least once a week and then we talk about the good times we had, and how many more good times we have planned :-) so no chance of getting the dead batt syndrome which I see happen for you...bum.

I installed a motobatt in the machine at the beginning of the year, as I think I had one moment with the orwhich showed signs that the battery was on its way out. The motobatts seem to be pretty strong, and have good endurance to date...albeit I had a DOA issue with the first time unit it, but go it swapped out on the spot from the dealer.

next time your talking to the 690 can you check what model motobatt you got. Have herd good things about them so think i'll go that way if mine turns out to be terminal (no pun intended)

[Night Falcon]

Jims 950 with some flash orange trims

[nadroj]

Shorai LFX14A4-BS12
RRP $243.83

CCA(A)210
Weight(Kg)0.901

148mm wide
86mm deep
88mm high

[vegeman]

next time your talking to the 690 can you check what model motobatt you got. Have herd good things about them so think i'll go that way if mine turns out to be terminal (no pun intended)

its the MotoBatt MBTZ10S Battery, which is direct replacement for the Yuasa YTZ10S. It was an easy replacement, as we know, sometimes the most basic things sometimes just don't fit or work as expected.

Interestingly...the lastest motobatt catalogue doesn't list the 2008 690, but does for the enduro R 2009 onwards and recommends a slightly different model being the MBTX9U.

its only the early LC4 models that use the same...

Anyway...thats what is in my machine...so with the random starting in garage, and just a 10 - 15 minute run - the new battery starts first time and shows no sign of losing energy while sitting in a cold garage for a week at a time .

can't remember the price ...but think it was about $120??

[Night Falcon]

The battery seems to be holding a charge so took her for test spin up the gwava's. Awsome to be out riding but a tad chilly man.

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[DR Girl]

Good to see you got out for that ride Marty, keep it up :2thumbsup Just a few layers of thermals & you will be ready for Clint & Rosie's MMMMM. Yes, I got the same comments (as I would imagine all m/c riders get after an accident). . . . even from him indoors.
Answ to them ALL. . . No way Jose !!!!!

[Night Falcon]

Went for a burn this morning down to blackhead AWSOME riding conditions an stunning scenery! Hit a small creek a bit hard and suspect some water has got into the electrical inards as I now have an FI warning code flashing on the speedo...Tempreture air intake sensor opperating to high or low :Oops: Still runs perfectly though so can't be anything too serious ?:facepalm:


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[vegeman]

Went for a burn this morning down to blackhead AWSOME riding conditions an stunning scenery! Hit a small creek a bit hard and suspect some water has got into the electrical inards as I now have an FI warning code flashing on the speedo...Tempreture air intake sensor opperating to high or low :Oops: Still runs perfectly though so can't be anything too serious ?:facepalm:


http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/IMG_0679.jpg

bum, no doubt you find the sensor, give it a clean...quick squirt of some magic spray ala CRC or something like that....would like to know what happens, so when I get it...I'll know what to do :-)


So hows the beach between blackhead and shoal beach now... last time I was there I rode using leg power on mountain bike (also where is that photo actually shot?...it does look like Blackhead in the background, but can't visualize the grass bit that you are on)

V

[Night Falcon]

bum, no doubt you find the sensor, give it a clean...quick squirt of some magic spray ala CRC or something like that....would like to know what happens, so when I get it...I'll know what to do :-)


So hows the beach between blackhead and shoal beach now... last time I was there I rode using leg power on mountain bike (also where is that photo actually shot?...it does look like Blackhead in the background, but can't visualize the grass bit that you are on)

V

yup will keep ya in the loop on the sensor repair. The picture is taken on the slip between Aromoana & blackhead. Amazing what some time and a digger can do

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/IMG_0309.jpg

[Night Falcon]

Hey Veg, how is the leg commin along? Was thinking of you yesterday as I had a small op on my knee to remove some scar tissue (op no 7) but this one was only an overnighter with full recovery in week or two. Made me think how awkward is must be for you having that brace screwed into you knee :sweatdrop:

[vegeman]

Hey Veg, how is the leg commin along? Was thinking of you yesterday as I had a small op on my knee to remove some scar tissue (op no 7) but this one was only an overnighter with full recovery in week or two. Made me think how awkward is must be for you having that brace screwed into you knee :sweatdrop:

Hey thx...nice to be thought of...

The frame is a pain, but its a bloody good piece of kit that certainly attracts attention. Makes for good stories...and far more interesting than 'just a break'. The thing I notice at the moment is when the frame gets cold, it transmits all through to the bone. I can sleep pretty well, shower ok...but no time near the bike for awhile yet...

I had my catchup with the surgeon yesterday, and while I am making very good progress...I still felt real bummed as the frame is going to be on for months, and months. I was expecting some superhuman results but alas, I am normal (well mostly) and allowed 20Kgs of downforce now for the next 6 weeks...but if I'm good, I hope to have it removed for spring time. I'm seriously over the crutches...they fuck me off big time, and thinking that I have that, and weeks of boredom...really doesn't help the situation so While I positive in general, I certainly have had my moments :angry2: and lost the plot!!

so...on more fun stuff....I just bought and installed the RAM mount system to hold my Garmin GPS. I saw an old Crazyfrogs ride report when he picked up his 525, and saw the GPS sit nicely on the handle bars so bought a setup from KiwiGPS...nice and solid setup. I also bought his Pirelli MT21 front off him as well...it's all about still needing to do stuff, and think about getting on the bike which is good for the mojo.

As I had my pants cut off, I am going to buy the matching KLim Badlands Pro pants in preparation for my return to riding. Ive read about a lot of different pants and struggled to decide on which ones so I'm just going with those, and since I have the jacket which is excellent..might as well complete the set. Spendy though will be $900 NZD by the time it lands...ouch.

Thx for the contact...always good to see whats happening.

AH...also, bought the Rally Raid Manual cam chain tensioner as well, I will wait until I'm 100% before doing engine work. My cam chain makes noise, and have noticed a lot of the motard guys putting them in. Recently...I did a full day ride from Welly to Atiamuri via the back roads, and on the west lake of taupo, raced some road bikes...and gave the machine a good thrash, I don;t think the rev's dropped below 6000 for hour or so. Once stopped, and ear plugs out...the bike certainly had some rattles :-) so once I heard that...I've become very aware of the engine noises. My mate who is a top mechanic, also commented that my cam chain seemed a bit noisy (un-prompted) so that was enough to order the part. I think the bike has about 28,000 on the clock.

:drinkup:...

[Night Falcon]

Mate, I can so relate to the boredom/crutches comments. I'm on them for next week but estimate I'd been on them for about 9months over the last 4 years. I rented a wheel chair for the old outing just to get a break from them. You fall into a routine which can become a rut after a while, so I found taking on a few projects helped me get through, I learnt to play the bass guitar badly, kids bought me a "learn to sketch art kit" which was surprisingly hardcase and addictive, plus I got very good at driving super cars around the nurburgring on project gotham 2 on Xbox. Charlie & Ewen and a few other motorbike videos also got a good thrashing its fair to say. You probably seen the videos Ive got but happy to lend them to ya if ya havn't (theres a list of them on this thread somewhere. just pm me with an address if you want anything!)

The old retail therapy also proved a good distraction for me....I got to buy new pants and boots under our house and contents insurance so that was cool especially as the excess was only couple of hundy, for 2k worth of gear....evry cloud has a silver lining!

Keep ya chin up!

NF

[vegeman]

Mate, I can so relate to the boredom/crutches comments....
Keep ya chin up!

NF

Thanks...I haven't caught up with all your mishaps/injurys yet but it sounds like you went through the wars yourself..

I reading this thread from the beginning to see of you mention it (as I have some time on my hands) and as part of that, a lot of your photo bucket photos are missing now...any chance of fixing the links, so I can have a looksey at some of your adventurisingness?

PS thanks for the offer of bike flicks...I just realized that my external hard drive that had all my movies has died...sheesh so I am on the scrounge. Let me see if I can source from the locals, otherwise I might take up your offer. :-)

[Night Falcon]

Thanks...I haven't caught up with all your mishaps/injurys yet but it sounds like you went through the wars yourself..

I reading this thread from the beginning to see of you mention it (as I have some time on my hands) and as part of that, a lot of your photo bucket photos are missing now...any chance of fixing the links, so I can have a looksey at some of your adventurisingness?

PS thanks for the offer of bike flicks...I just realized that my external hard drive that had all my movies has died...sheesh so I am on the scrounge. Let me see if I can source from the locals, otherwise I might take up your offer. :-)

Yeah my first ever atempt to start a thread on KB earnt me a telling off from the mods for posting to biggerer pictures....but these guys were more understanding http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=580492

let me know if you want to loan any CD's its no trouble to post em down :-)

[vegeman]

Yeah my first ever atempt to start a thread on KB earnt me a telling off from the mods for posting to biggerer pictures....but these guys were more understanding http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=580492

let me know if you want to loan any CD's its no trouble to post em down :-)

thanks for the link to the other thread, - you never mentioned how you stuffed your foot?

[Night Falcon]

thanks for the link to the other thread, - you never mentioned how you stuffed your foot?

heres the abridged version:

990 ADV/gravel/corner/engine stall/slide/highside/cheap boots/crushed leg/ :doh:

[Night Falcon]

Went in search of the temperature sensor to see if I could find the cause of the failure. Im not much of an auto electrician but even I didn't have any difficulty spottin this problem :( both wires goin into the sensor were broken off and anoyingly, right at the base of the connector :doh: Not sure how I'm gonna be able to join them back on as the wires feed straight from the harness withnot lot to spare? I'll have to try and pull the connector to bits :eek: an hope I dont wreck it....but before I do.... would appricate any advise from the more expereinced mechanics out there.

While I was at it I discovered one of the brackets holding the radiator on had snapped off. The radiator end had disappeared so I guess the bolt had come loose at some stage. Radiator was undamaged so that was a releif.

The safari tank is a pain to get on and off so I have set to work to redesign the bottom connectors and fit more traditional rubber inserts so the tank can slide onto into them to hold the bottom secure. Thus avoiding having to lie under the bike to undoo the hard to get at bracket bolts everytime you want to remove the tank. Have done one side and it works sweat azzz. Apart from the two bottom connections, the safari has two side fixings and two bolts at the top so its well fixed!

[vegeman]

Not sure how I'm gonna be able to join them back on as the wires feed straight from the harness withnot lot to spare? I'll have to try and pull the connector to bits :eek: an hope I dont wreck it....but before I do.... would appricate any advise from the more expereinced mechanics out there.



Thanks for showing the break...I think you'll struggle to repair that - looks like a trip to the auto electrician to buy the same connector and then solder back to the remaining wires. The thing for me tho, is how the hell did it fatigue or come off? Corrision? the safari tank loading it up weirdly, your bad mechanickingly :msn-wink:

I just to embark on some tune ups and tweaks, of my machine while I wait for the dumb leg to do its thing so will check the condition of mine. (fork revalve and manual cam tensioner)

[Night Falcon]

Thanks for showing the break...I think you'll struggle to repair that - looks like a trip to the auto electrician to buy the same connector and then solder back to the remaining wires. The thing for me tho, is how the hell did it fatigue or come off? Corrision? the safari tank loading it up weirdly, your bad mechanickingly :msn-wink:

I just to embark on some tune ups and tweaks, of my machine while I wait for the dumb leg to do its thing so will check the condition of mine. (fork revalve and manual cam tensioner)

dont know how that could have broken, its all indpendant of the safari tank so not that. Apparantly it is a common problem though so must be a vibration thing? Not much you can do to prevent it happening either. The error code on the FI got the problem spot on though, Its a bit surreal having a bike that not only tells you its not feeling well but also tells you whats wrong....who says technology is a pain!

[NordieBoy]

Not much you can do to prevent it happening either. The error code on the FI got the problem spot on though, Its a bit surreal having a bike that not only tells you its not feeling well but also tells you whats wrong....who says technology is a pain!

A bead of hot glue at the base of the wires may give them some more strength/vibration damping?

[Night Falcon]

A bead of hot glue at the base of the wires may give them some more strength/vibration damping?

thats sounds like a good idea, maybe a "dolup" of silicone might help as well? Biggest problem is reconnecting the thing though :scratch:

[Night Falcon]

Successfully repaired the sensor connector today :Punk:

[.chris]

Successfully repaired the sensor connector today :Punk:

I had to do the same thing about a year ago, was going to post a how-to, but you beat me to it.

[Night Falcon]

I had to do the same thing about a year ago, was going to post a how-to, but you beat me to it.

For interests sake are there any other fixes you've done you've done that you'd like to share?

[vegeman]

Successfully repaired the sensor connector today :Punk:

good work there...well done - I'm going to get to mine before it breaks. I tried to do some work on the bike today...but its just to bloody hard with this infernal !@#$% crutches and trying to get the bike on the !@#$ stand.

funny tho, last week I thought I should try and clean the bike considering it was still dirty from the crash - got my 9 year old boy to get the water blaster (which I don't really like using on the bike) and other stuff ready. It was all going good while hopping on one leg, pushing the bike backwards passed the car until I cocked up..lost balance, bike tipped...and then the bike went the wrong way...oh no...had to let go -:face palm: stupid bike hit the wall slid down and wedged itself under the back of the car...!@#$% and more !@#$%...I don't think my boy has heard that much swearing - LOL.. It goes to show that you can lift the 690 standing on one leg!!!

[Night Falcon]

Am looking at new tyres for the 690. Have in mind the following both of which I've read good and bad reviews on. Anyone here tried them or have another combo they like for 50/50 seal/sand-gravel-fire breaks ?

Front Perelli MT21 (90/90/21) - longevity seems to be the worst feature of this tyre but Cycle treads have them for $88.00. The Dunlop D606 would be my next choice but it costs $175.00. is it worth over double the price?

Rear Mitas E07(140/80/18) - These are supposed to be comparable with the K60 scout I'm currently using but with softer side walls. The K60 has lasted about 6K and probably has another 500-1000 K left in it before the the tube starts poking out. I dont like riding on a slick rear (especially in winter) so it wil be gone shortly. Last price I got for them was $240.00 from LMS imports plus freight.

[vegeman]

Am looking at new tyres for the 690. Have in mind the following both of which I've read good and bad reviews on. Anyone here tried them or have another combo they like for 50/50 seal/sand-gravel-fire breaks ?

Front Perelli MT21 (90/90/21) - longevity seems to be the worst feature of this tyre but Cycle treads have them for $88.00. The Dunlop D606 would be my next choice but it costs $175.00. is it worth over double the price?

Rear Mitas E07(140/80/18) - These are supposed to be comparable with the K60 scout I'm currently using but with softer side walls. The K60 has lasted about 6K and probably has another 500-1000 K left in it before the the tube starts poking out. I dont like riding on a slick rear (especially in winter) so it wil be gone shortly. Last price I got for them was $240.00 from LMS imports plus freight.

Wot!!!. MT21 for $88 thats a steal. I ran the MT21 front with the K60 (after you were having good luck with the K60) and thought the MT21 did real well...so bought another. I like to have a good off road knobbly on the front - as if that loses traction...things get messy. I was surprised how well it did on the longer road trips ie. slabbing it from Welly to Gisborne...and I never felt like it was the worng tyre for the road. Off road was excellent and I thanked it a few times on down hills when I prayed it wasn't going to let go. For that price...sheesh - no brainer.

I'm struggling to decide on the E07 or another k60...as we know the K60's are good wearing, good all round performance, good grip but suffer a bit in mud/grass because they're so stiff...but you can get a puncture and not know. The E07 again good wearing, good performance. I've never had one from new so can't comment on their initial grip...but when perhaps half worn (4000K ish) I notice the rubber got a bit harder and then slipped in the wet..even in straight ling on open road - 690 power!! - the K60 never did...and I tried to emulate it. I had better luck with the E07 off road tho and far better than K60 when it turned to real shit. I recall true wet, steep up hill in pine forest...and the E07 coped (still the same half work tyre) and I also managed to tractor it up hard packed wet clay where other full MX tires and bikes struggled.

I'm gonna run the MT21s on the front, and the next rear will be the MT21 rear. Let us know what you decide...but I'd go with the E07 next time...especially for a distance ride.

Vegeman:yes:

[NordieBoy]

I get good km's out of the MT21 fronts.
If you rotate them once the braking edge starts wearing noticeably, you extend their life considerably.
I got 2,500km from my first rear and 10,000km from the front that went on at the same time.

The E07 rear, I get 10-15,000km and have never had them step out or slide on the road. But I am a bit light on the throttle :baby:

[Night Falcon]

thanks for the feed back. LMS have no stocks of E07's until mid August so have got one on back order. They told me the new E07's will be tubless but can be run with tubes...guess that means stiffer side walls after all? Will give the MT21 Rallycross a crack, seem good value at the price.

[clint640]

Am looking at new tyres for the 690. Have in mind the following both of which I've read good and bad reviews on. Anyone here tried them or have another combo they like for 50/50 seal/sand-gravel-fire breaks ?

Front Perelli MT21 (90/90/21) - longevity seems to be the worst feature of this tyre but Cycle treads have them for $88.00. The Dunlop D606 would be my next choice but it costs $175.00. is it worth over double the price?

Rear Mitas E07(140/80/18) - These are supposed to be comparable with the K60 scout I'm currently using but with softer side walls. The K60 has lasted about 6K and probably has another 500-1000 K left in it before the the tube starts poking out. I dont like riding on a slick rear (especially in winter) so it wil be gone shortly. Last price I got for them was $240.00 from LMS imports plus freight.

MT21 front goes at least as well as a D606, maybe a bit better offroad. Maybe wear out a smidge quicker but at 1/2 the price who cares.

Mitas E0-7 are $240 now!!!??? Last one I got was $180 - hasn't anyone told LMS the euro is in the shitter? They're shooting themselves in the foot, under $200 I'd just get another Mitas, for that money though I'm going to give a Heidenau K60 a go next in the interests of science.

Cheers
Clint

[Night Falcon]

MT21 front goes at least as well as a D606, maybe a bit better offroad. Maybe wear out a smidge quicker but at 1/2 the price who cares.

Mitas E0-7 are $240 now!!!??? Last one I got was $180 - hasn't anyone told LMS the euro is in the shitter? They're shooting themselves in the foot, under $200 I'd just get another Mitas, for that money though I'm going to give a Heidenau K60 a go next in the interests of science.

Cheers
Clint

the latest quote (today) was $220.00 delivered to Havelock North. So they have come down in price abit. The $240.00 was the last quote they gave me plus freight which was the decider to go with the K60. Plus if you tell the guy selling the Hidies on trademe your a Kiwibiker you get $20.00 off :clap:.The K60 is a great tyre, only reason I'm goin E07 is for scientific research :rolleyes:

[.chris]

Another worthwhile option (when looking at the K60/E07) is the Sahara3. Cycletreads have them for $219 (140/80-18).
Been ages (since my bike was new) since I used one, but I remember it being pretty good, and wear was good (got around 15,000km out of it from memory).

I do recall it being quite good in the sand, which I do like in a tire.

[Night Falcon]

Another worthwhile option (when looking at the K60/E07) is the Sahara3. Cycletreads have them for $219 (140/80-18).
Been ages (since my bike was new) since I used one, but I remember it being pretty good, and wear was good (got around 15,000km out of it from memory).

I do recall it being quite good in the sand, which I do like in a tire.

yup, saw those and almost went that way. The decider was Ive had the E07 on my bucket list to try for a while now, ironically after first seeing one on your 690 when we did the Puroa forest/42nd few years back. Must do that again some time :banana:

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/IMG_0572.jpg

[.chris]

yup, saw those and almost went that way. The decider was Ive had the E07 on my bucket list to try for a while now, ironically after first seeing one on your 690 when we did the Puroa forest/42nd few years back. Must do that again some time :banana:



Yeah, we should was a good weekend.

266179

[Night Falcon]

My new front tire turned up this morning, thanks cycletreads :clap: Its gonna look way cool on the 690 and by all accounts will be a huge improvment on the previous 80/20 dual sports Ive been running :banana: Its by far the cheapest tyre Ive bought in a looooong time at under $100.00 deliverd. Might even give it a crack at changing it my self :baby:

[.chris]

My new front tire turned up this morning, thanks cycletreads :clap: Its gonna look way cool on the 690 and by all accounts will be a huge improvment on the previous 80/20 dual sports Ive been running :banana: Its by far the cheapest tyre Ive bought in a looooong time at under $100.00 deliverd. Might even give it a crack at changing it my self :baby:

We might be front tire twins, my Karoo2T is looking pretty well rooted, trying to decide if it will last me till after the MMMM or not.
I do have an old 2/3rds worn MT21 in the shed, but the sidewalls are pretty stiff and it feels a bit aged. Might just retire it.

And cycletreads have a at least 13% off sale tomorrow (black friday). Might just be the day to do it.

[Night Falcon]

We might be front tire twins, my Karoo2T is looking pretty well rooted, trying to decide if it will last me till after the MMMM or not.
I do have an old 2/3rds worn MT21 in the shed, but the sidewalls are pretty stiff and it feels a bit aged. Might just retire it.

And cycletreads have a at least 13% off sale tomorrow (black friday). Might just be the day to do it.

Black tire Friday :devil2:

[.chris]

Black tire Friday :devil2:


Damn, you (or someone) got the last MT21 they had in stock. Ended up with another Karoo2, not to badly priced once you get the 13% discount for black friday.
Still a MT21, could have been the cheapest tire EVER with 13% off.

[Night Falcon]

Damn, you (or someone) got the last MT21 they had in stock. Ended up with another Karoo2, not to badly priced once you get the 13% discount for black friday.
Still a MT21, could have been the cheapest tire EVER with 13% off.

thats a bit of a stinker...evil forces at play i reckon :devil2:

[.chris]

thats a bit of a stinker...evil forces at play i reckon :devil2:

I dunno, the Karoo is a great tire. I have had 3 of them in a row now. :cool:
And I just did the math on that Karoo2(t) I was just running, and it lasted 24,000km. Pretty good value at $144 I reckon.

[NordieBoy]

I dunno, the Karoo is a great tire. I have had 3 of them in a row now. :cool:
And I just did the math on that Karoo2(t) I was just running, and it lasted 24,000km. Pretty good value at $144 I reckon.

I got 10,000km from a $10 E07 :clap:
TradeMe is great :2thumbsup

[.chris]

I got 10,000km from a $10 E07 :clap:
TradeMe is great :2thumbsup

That is pretty good value, but can you beat my 4 tires for $12 Karoo. front 10% worn, karoo rear 40% worn, MT91 rear near new, MT21 front 60% worn, must have got around 20,000km out of that lot, now that sir is value for money.

[Night Falcon]

I got 10,000km from a $10 E07 :clap:
TradeMe is great :2thumbsup

=$10 plus $ weighting for tire change @ $20.00 x1 =$30.00/10,000 = .003c per/klm


That is pretty good value, but can you beat my 4 tires for $12 Karoo. front 10% worn, karoo rear 40% worn, MT91 rear near new, MT21 front 60% worn, must have got around 20,000km out of that lot, now that sir is value for money.

=$12 plus $ weighting for tire change @ $20.00 x4 =$92.00/20,000 = .0046c per/klm



Nordie is the stingyist :third:

[NordieBoy]

Nordie is the stingyist :third:

:headbang:

Some more zip ties and hot glue and I could be an honararyayay KLR owner.

[Night Falcon]

back in the shed today: finished making the second safari tank bracket, so next job was to check out why my zumo 550 keeps cutting out. Seems the front brake cable had been rubbing on the gps cable, worn a hole through it and snaped both wires :mad: this time they are unreparable so its a new cable. Starting to think the 690 has got something against electrical cables :crazy:

[Night Falcon]

Ordered one of those motobat battery's this morning on trade me cos the 690 stocker sparked its last spark this morning. Herd good things about them and they are comaparitively cheap compared to the KTM one. I'm not a superstious person (Time and chance happens to all men. Ecc 9:11) but thats the third electrical fault associated with the bike in the last 3 weeks :scratch: buy hopefully, the last :wait:

I've found when lifes little electrical faults start to become to frequent you simply need to buy a new helmet to restore the balance :innocent:. Accordinly I bought a (good as new) XD3 off trade me while I was at it :wari:.

[vegeman]

Ordered one of those motobat battery's this morning on trade me cos the 690 stocker sparked its last spark this morning. .... you simply need to buy a new helmet to restore the balance :innocent:. Accordinly I bought a (good as new) XD3 off trade me while I was at it :wari:.

Seems fair enough to me....but I think you have confused the rules...I'm sure its based on the colour of the battery...and how that has to match the colour of the helmet...yes?

Sheesh...there is going to be no mistaking you with that beacon on your scone - "no officer is wasn't me speedy with the iridescent, glowing helmet, it was the other guy! - yeah right"

[Night Falcon]

Seems fair enough to me....but I think you have confused the rules...I'm sure its based on the colour of the battery...and how that has to match the colour of the helmet...yes?

Sheesh...there is going to be no mistaking you with that beacon on your scone - "no officer is wasn't me speedy with the iridescent, glowing helmet, it was the other guy! - yeah right"

As i never speed infront of traffic officers i can't see that being a problem :nono:, besides its a bit hard to hide the big orange fairing. On the bright side it reduces the chances of being mistaken as a deer by hunters while riding in the country :cool:

[Horney1]

............

I've found when lifes little electrical faults start to become to frequent you simply need to buy a new helmet to restore the balance :innocent:. Accordinly I bought a (good as new) XD3 off trade me while I was at it :wari:.


Hi Night Falcon,


What's that mount on the helmet? Is it for a contour camera? It seems quite high though moulded into the curvature of the helmet. Has it been adapted?

[Night Falcon]

Hi Night Falcon,


What's that mount on the helmet? Is it for a contour camera? It seems quite high though moulded into the curvature of the helmet. Has it been adapted?

Will let ys know when it turns up but I am looking round for a camera so might come in handy.

[Night Falcon]

Chucked the new motobat battery in the 690 tonight, whizzes over just fine but no start. :scratch: Must be a loose connection somewhere as it was going last week? Will pull her to bits tommorow night and check connections but if I cant find the problem its no riding for me this weekend :crazy:

[vegeman]

Chucked the new motobat battery in the 690 tonight, whizzes over just fine but no start. :scratch: Must be a loose connection somewhere as it was going last week? Will pull her to bits tommorow night and check connections but if I cant find the problem its no riding for me this weekend :crazy:

hmmm crazy and bloody annoying, I'd say. Logically, if it was all going before you swapped...then realistically it has to be related to what you just did. Aren't some of the main connectors pulled out, to get the battery in? -

My motobatt was a DOA, so that really blew my brain...and had to wait until the next day to get a replacement. After that it was sweet...also it has been working really well since, and cranking the bike over once or twice a week with only a 10 - 15 minute idle in the garage. It hasn't moved since April (sheesh has it been that long)....so I'd say the batteries are resilient.

Speaking of my broke-dick leg. Surgeon says the frame 'should' be ok to take off in 5.5 weeks...yay

[Night Falcon]

hmmm crazy and bloody annoying, I'd say. Logically, if it was all going before you swapped...then realistically it has to be related to what you just did. Aren't some of the main connectors pulled out, to get the battery in? -

My motobatt was a DOA, so that really blew my brain...and had to wait until the next day to get a replacement. After that it was sweet...also it has been working really well since, and cranking the bike over once or twice a week with only a 10 - 15 minute idle in the garage. It hasn't moved since April (sheesh has it been that long)....so I'd say the batteries are resilient.

Speaking of my broke-dick leg. Surgeon says the frame 'should' be ok to take off in 5.5 weeks...yay

Good news on the scaffolding removal Veg!! Hopefully something simple like a loose connection, but will see tonight. I'm getting pretty good at tracking down electrical problems now :sherlock:

[DR Girl]

hmmm crazy and bloody annoying, I'd say. Logically, if it was all going before you swapped...then realistically it has to be related to what you just did. Aren't some of the main connectors pulled out, to get the battery in? -

My motobatt was a DOA, so that really blew my brain...and had to wait until the next day to get a replacement. After that it was sweet...also it has been working really well since, and cranking the bike over once or twice a week with only a 10 - 15 minute idle in the garage. It hasn't moved since April (sheesh has it been that long)....so I'd say the batteries are resilient.

Speaking of my broke-dick leg. Surgeon says the frame 'should' be ok to take off in 5.5 weeks...yay

So pleased to hear that also vegeman :banana: Haven't been on this thread for a while so has been great having a catch up. A good effort re cleaning your bike till the bike topple over. Don't blame the swearing. Justified !! ;););)

[DR Girl]

My new front tire turned up this morning, thanks cycletreads :clap: Its gonna look way cool on the 690 and by all accounts will be a huge improvment on the previous 80/20 dual sports Ive been running :banana: Its by far the cheapest tyre Ive bought in a looooong time at under $100.00 deliverd. Might even give it a crack at changing it my self :baby:

Got all excited here Marty re the changing of your tyre LOL Thought I might have a local HavelocK North guy I could pay to call in & do mine when I needed. Esp when I only need aggressive knobs on the occasional weekend & back to the used knobs for Adv riding. Have noted your great electrical & other skills though ;)
Gosh have you had some hassles with that orange bike of yours. You know the 200 has rear foot pegs :laugh: & I have 2up'd a big bloke before from the Taihape Rd. Keep that in mind for this weekend. :lol:

[Night Falcon]

Thanks for the backup plan Robyn :doctor: But hopefully wont need any assistance. But am pleased to announce the KTM Lives. Tracked the problem to a poor spark plug conection. Chopped 10mm off the end of the plug cable hooked her up and awaaaaay she went!!. Now just got to spend an hour bolting the air box, Front faring and safari tank back on!!

[vegeman]

Thanks for the backup plan Robyn :doctor: But hopefully wont need any assistance. But am pleased to announce the KTM Lives. Tracked the problem to a poor spark plug conection. Chopped 10mm off the end of the plug cable hooked her up and awaaaaay she went!!. Now just got to spend an hour bolting the air box, Front faring and safari tank back on!!

yay...good that you have it sorted - can't take grief about our blessed orange crushers!. The fronts are easy to put on, and I never swapped it out once on. I ran my MT21 on the front for all sorts of riding and I think it coped really well, even slabbing for 100's of kays on the tarmac....the secret for me is to get them balanced - most dirt wheel riders don't bother but thats because their dirt machines aren't fast like our bone chrushers :-)

[Night Falcon]

off to Palmy tamorra to take the ktm into AFC for the once over. Needs the valves checked and a bit of a tune up. Decided to trailer it cos its sposed to be heavy rain. Will call into see how GSer's getting on with the broken collar bone.

[vegeman]

off to Palmy tamorra to take the ktm into AFC for the once over. Needs the valves checked and a bit of a tune up. Decided to trailer it cos its sposed to be heavy rain. Will call into see how GSer's getting on with the broken collar bone.

Besides the easy opportunity to perhaps comment or slightly chastise one for putting a working and beloved bike on the trailer because of rain....will be good to see what the valves are like and also timing chain. How many kays on the machine?

[Night Falcon]

Besides the easy opportunity to perhaps comment or slightly chastise one for putting a working and beloved bike on the trailer because of rain....will be good to see what the valves are like and also timing chain. How many kays on the machine?


The engine was is good shape but valves needed some adjustment. She purrrrrrs like a cougar now. Its done just over 21K so still ralatively young. Fair cop on the trailer...what can I say apart from getting old and soft :D

did get wet today though, got right to the northern end of ocean beach before the heavens opened up :corn:

[Night Falcon]

The bloke I bought my fairing off is currently working on a new project...building 5 690 advnture bikes :gob: He sent me some sneak previews of some mock ups and a couple 640's hed previously done...enjoy!!!

[Crim]

...building 5 690 advnture bikes :

what are they for??????

[Night Falcon]

what are they for??????

I understand they are going to be sold as 690 adventures! The 690 rally bike kit is being used as a template to customise an adventure setup to bolt onto the stock 690 and will also fit the stock headlight. Its also going to get some strengthening to accomadate pannier racks and tanks will be plastic. Darren says there is still a lot of work to do but hopefully he will be sending up dates as the build progresses (if not I'll be nagging him for them!!) Its an exciting project with the aim of producing the 690 adventure that ktm has passed on. :drool:

[vegeman]

The engine was is good shape but valves needed some adjustment.

What was the clearance before/after, which valves needed it,...I'm also presuming that they got tighter?

I need to re-check mine again...as when I did it (Our bikes have similar k's), they all checked good but since your's did need adjusting...hmm maybe another check to be sure. I'm still going to install the manual timing chain tensioner...as its noisy now (that I"m sensitive to it.) so I'll do that then.

Good to see you out there riding it...but still can't help think that you get a lot of beach time on the bike and how salt/sand is nasty to metal.

[Night Falcon]

What was the clearance before/after, which valves needed it,...I'm also presuming that they got tighter?

I need to re-check mine again...as when I did it (Our bikes have similar k's), they all checked good but since your's did need adjusting...hmm maybe another check to be sure. I'm still going to install the manual timing chain tensioner...as its noisy now (that I"m sensitive to it.) so I'll do that then.

Good to see you out there riding it...but still can't help think that you get a lot of beach time on the bike and how salt/sand is nasty to metal.

dont know the actual measurments but it was the back valves (inlet) that were tight. timing chain was fine. Its great to be out on the trails again. I do get more beach time than most but these things are all alloy and it gets a good wash at the end of every ride (no matter where) and I have shares in CRC factory :banana:

[blacksheep]

if you are in the engine yourself check the wear/play on the rocker arm roller bearings {i had one sieze},wear on cam.........the strange thing is bearing in mind how difficult it is getting parts ktm actually had this part in stock!,if you check us forums some peeps are actually replacing them when valve clearence services are done,citing lack of oil being fed to top of engine.

[Night Falcon]

if you are in the engine yourself check the wear/play on the rocker arm roller bearings {i had one sieze},wear on cam.........the strange thing is bearing in mind how difficult it is getting parts ktm actually had this part in stock!,if you check us forums some peeps are actually replacing them when valve clearence services are done,citing lack of oil being fed to top of engine.

orrr don't tell me that now :weep: hopefully it will hold together for another 10K so I can get them checked or replaced at the next valve check!

[blacksheep]

my bike had 32000 kms on it and i seem to be a shit magnet,just giving you a bit of a heads up thats all,you will probably be sweet:cool:

[Night Falcon]

my bike had 32000 kms on it and i seem to be a shit magnet,just giving you a bot of a heads up thats all,you will probably be sweet:cool:

sweat !! as I've only done a bit over 20k that will be about perfect timing to check her out :cool:

[10bikekid]

I understand they are going to be sold as 690 adventures! The 690 rally bike kit is being used as a template to customise an adventure setup to bolt onto the stock 690 and will also fit the stock headlight. Its also going to get some strengthening to accomadate pannier racks and tanks will be plastic. Darren says there is still a lot of work to do but hopefully he will be sending up dates as the build progresses (if not I'll be nagging him for them!!) Its an exciting project with the aim of producing the 690 adventure that ktm has passed on. :drool:

Whats with KTM where they afraid they could not keep up with the demand if the 690ADV was born:facepalm:

[Night Falcon]

Whats with KTM where they afraid they could not keep up with the demand if the 690ADV was born:facepalm:

Back in 2007 the rumours were it was the recession that stopped development of the 690 adventure but only ktm knows that for sure. Personally I think ktm saw the adventure market moving more towards softer adventure tourers rather than adv enduro's. Price might have been another reason to bail....the 690 R is an $18K bike so an adventure version would have to run into the $20k plus range which would also have killed sales.

[10bikekid]

Back in 2007 the rumours were it was the recession that stopped development of the 690 adventure but only ktm knows that for sure. Personally I think ktm saw the adventure market moving more towards softer adventure tourers rather than adv enduro's. Price might have been another reason to bail....the 690 R is an $18K bike so an adventure version would have to run into the $20k plus range which would also have killed sales.

I'm a little suspicious they were concerned about the high milage that 690ADV would sustain and perhaps that engine is just to stonky for that. ?

unfortunaletly it might need to lose some horsepower to circumnavigate the globe ?

I've ridden the SM and its miracously fast for a single :woohoo:

PS, or maybe not, perhaps this will shed some light ? http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/ktm-tech/ktm-690-enduro-can-do-64860

Are KTM wanting to pull off the mother of all ADV launches and suprise us all ?

[Night Falcon]

Ordered a new K60 today as LMS informed me the E07's wont be in the country till mid September now. My current K60 will be on canvas by then (if thats when they arrive). I will still get the E07 when it finnally gets here so then I'll be sure an have one when the new K60 wears out....I expect that will be in about 7,445.23 klm's if the last one is anything to go by :D.

[vegeman]

Ordered a new K60 today as LMS informed me the E07's wont be in the country till mid September now. My current K60 will be on canvas by then (if thats when they arrive). I will still get the E07 when it finnally gets here so then I'll be sure an have one when the new K60 wears out....I expect that will be in about 7,445.23 klm's if the last one is anything to go by :D.

Mate..I still have my half worn K60 which you can have for free....so if its not too late, cancel the k60 order...take my one and trash that until your E07 arrives.

I just ordered and received a MT21 rear which looks awesome, AND ordered an E07 as well for when my new rear rim arrives...I've delaced my 17" sumo rims and creating another rear...so this means I can have two dual sport rears...MT21 for dirt oritented dual sporting, and E07 for distance/gravel dual sporting.

PM or call if

[RideLife]

Ordered a new K60 today......


Mate..I still have my half worn K60 which you can have for free....so if its not too late, cancel the k60 order...

Free sounds like a good deal NF.
I'm happy to cancel order and return payment, if you would prefer to accept Vegeman offer.
What goes around - comes around ones hopes.
Cheers.
Alex.

[Night Falcon]

Hey Veg thanks for the offer on the tire mate but will get the new heidi :niceone: Alex (RideLife)has given me a great deal on it and I really like the tire. The E07 will go on my tire rack till I'm ready for it.

How is that leg healing mate? Have ya got that x-o-skelaton off yet?. Oddly enough its been exactly 4rys to the day at about this time when I broke mine.....can't beleive its been that long.....and its still sore!



Free sounds like a good deal NF.
I'm happy to cancel order and return payment, if you would prefer to accept Vegeman offer.
What goes around - comes around ones hopes.
Cheers.
Alex.

Thanks Alex will stick with the newby....but you are da man!! Great service and pricing again from fellow Kiwi Biker! :Punk:

[vegeman]

Hey Veg thanks for the offer on the tire mate but will get the new heidi :niceone: Alex (RideLife)has given me a great deal on it and I really like the tire. The E07 will go on my tire rack till I'm ready for it.

How is that leg healing mate? Have ya got that x-o-skelaton off yet?. Oddly enough its been exactly 4rys to the day at about this time when I broke mine.....can't beleive its been that long.....and its still sore!



Thanks Alex will stick with the newby....but you are da man!! Great service and pricing again from fellow Kiwi Biker! :Punk:
No prob's wasn't meaning to derail the business as such and I know you wanted to test the E07 as well...looks like I'll get the chance to do that instead. My k60 has done about 4000K's (still has tread on it, so it took a bashing and lastest very well) but it's retired now due to me putting on a full knobbly...before the 'incident'. I like to try different tyres hence why I'm going with the selection.

As for the leg, I get unplugged on Monday...wahoo!!! so time is rushing up quickly. I've been doing some tests on the leg, and have officially walked again without crutches...but I think I have pushed it a bit much, and as I type this, I'm in bloody pain...can't wait to get this damn thing off.

When I can ride, I'll come up to the bay...

V

[NordieBoy]

I just ordered and received a MT21 rear which looks awesome, AND ordered an E07 as well for when my new rear rim arrives...I've delaced my 17" sumo rims and creating another rear...so this means I can have two dual sport rears...MT21 for dirt oritented dual sporting, and E07 for distance/gravel dual sporting.

Anything hard pack with loose stuff on it and the E07 will be better than the MT21 hands down.

[Night Falcon]

No prob's wasn't meaning to derail the business as such and I know you wanted to test the E07 as well...looks like I'll get the chance to do that instead. My k60 has done about 4000K's (still has tread on it, so it took a bashing and lastest very well) but it's retired now due to me putting on a full knobbly...before the 'incident'. I like to try different tyres hence why I'm going with the selection.

As for the leg, I get unplugged on Monday...wahoo!!! so time is rushing up quickly. I've been doing some tests on the leg, and have officially walked again without crutches...but I think I have pushed it a bit much, and as I type this, I'm in bloody pain...can't wait to get this damn thing off.

When I can ride, I'll come up to the bay...

V

Nice work...small steps rather than giant leaps is the order of the day for busted leg recovery in my experience. Worst part is having to look at ya bike and not being able to ride it :brick: but you WILL get there!!

[Night Falcon]

Don't if anyone else has been following Roninmoto's thread on ADVrider...he had his 2010 690 nicked on his first day in Ireland...long story short the ADV community pulled together and he managed to get a 2008 sorted to carry on his world trip...just as he was putting the final touches on the new bike his old one was recovered! Now hes got 2 Rally raid set up 690's


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781893&page=45

[Night Falcon]

Dont suppose there is anyone who knows how to test if my sidestand safety switch is faulty? My starter button won't work but has power to it...bridged the terminals on the starter solanoid and it started right up so there is either a break somewhere or something is telling the starter not to work....which i still suspect is the sidestand safety switch but as I don't know how to test/check it i have no way of telling. Can also crash start it and it runs perfectly, but the starter button is dead as doe doe.

[10bikekid]

Dont suppose there is anyone who knows how to test if my sidestand safety switch is faulty? My starter button won't work but has power to it...bridged the terminals on the starter solanoid and it started right up so there is either a break somewhere or something is telling the starter not to work....which i still suspect is the sidestand safety switch but as I don't know how to test/check it i have no way of telling. Can also crash start it and it runs perfectly, but the starter button is dead as doe doe.

Smashed my side stand switch on a rock and 950 would not start, from memory I joined the two wires together at the switch and off I went.:scooter:

[Night Falcon]

Smashed my side stand switch on a rock and 950 would not start, from memory I joined the two wires together at the switch and off I went.:scooter:

yeah that will work on 950 but not on 990 or 690 which has some dangfangled gizzmo that prevents it :wacko: it seems ktm wants you strandard when ya sidestand switch packs up :eek5:

[10bikekid]

yeah that will work on 950 but not on 990 or 690 which has some dangfangled gizzmo that prevents it :wacko: it seems ktm wants you strandard when ya sidestand switch packs up :eek5:

answer, buy a 950:shutup:






















Just kidding of course:laugh:

[vegeman]

yeah that will work on 950 but not on 990 or 690 which has some dangfangled gizzmo that prevents it :wacko: it seems ktm wants you strandard when ya sidestand switch packs up :eek5:

Any luck yet? My bike came with side stand switch bypass so lucky there...have you had a look through the workshop manual schematic? I'll have a look through it later.

Great news, the frame all came off yesterday.... and i did most of the wrenching.

Also, if you are not squeamish , you can watch me unscrew the first bolt out of my tibia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sfCFBjzFF4

[cynna]

im not sqeamish but that did make me sqeam

[Night Falcon]

Any luck yet? My bike came with side stand switch bypass so lucky there...have you had a look through the workshop manual schematic? I'll have a look through it later.

Great news, the frame all came off yesterday.... and i did most of the wrenching.

Also, if you are not squeamish , you can watch me unscrew the first bolt out of my tibia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sfCFBjzFF4

first things first..GREAT result on the scaffolding dismantaling, thats worth 3 bananas :wari::banana::wari: a major step (no pun intened) on your path to recovery!

On to lesser matters...I have run a meter over the starter switch, starter solaniod, Side stand switch and all ok. Am printing off the wiring diagram at work this arvo so will try and work through that (but I'm no electrican :weep:). One thing I aint checked is the roll over sensor but I can imagine it would start at all if that was poked? I have a mate who is an auto electrician so may have to give him a call if I can't find the fault but want to perserver a little longer on my own to see if i can spot the problem. Weid though....no warning, starter just stopped working??:scratch:

[blacksheep]

dont know if its worth checking,but see if the 2 faces on the side stand line up,i knocked mine once with the bike lift and had same problem:yes:

[Night Falcon]

dont know if its worth checking,but see if the 2 faces on the side stand line up,i knocked mine once with the bike lift and had same problem:yes:


If ithe SS switch is the problem shouldn't the bike still start in neautral? The switch is designed to turn the engine off only when its in gear with the clutch out and the sidestand down. So if its poked then the bike should start but die every time you put it in gear with the stand up or down? Plus the bike runs perfectly once ya get it going....BUT despite this lodgic I'm still leaning towards that as the problem....gut feeling....or could just be last nights fish :shifty:

Can you confirm your problem did not allow the bike to start at all blacksheep?

[10bikekid]

If ithe SS switch is the problem shouldn't the bike still start in neautral? The switch is designed to turn the engine off only when its in gear with the clutch out and the sidestand down. So if its poked then the bike should start but die every time you put it in gear with the stand up or down? Plus the bike runs perfectly once ya get it going....BUT despite this lodgic I'm still leaning towards that as the problem....gut feeling....or could just be last nights fish :shifty:

Can you confirm your problem did not allow the bike to start at all blacksheep?

That exactly what mine did when side stand switched went, ran fine till you tried to ride off.

[Night Falcon]

I have been scratching my nut for the past few hours checking and rechecking all the circuits connected to the starter. I'm now thinking my problem is related to the aux starter relay....which I can't find! There is definately 12v passing through the starter button when its activaed so I know thats ok.

At the other end of the circut is the starter relay which has 4 contacts on it. the top 2 both have constant 12.5volts so I have deduced they provide power to all the bikes electrics from the battery. They are also routed through the main 30amp fuse. I am therorizing the bottom 2 contacts once powered activate the starter motor and I beleive the wiring diagram confirms this. So with the key on and the starter button in there should be power to the bottom contacts to activate the starter relay....but there isn't. So somewhere between the starter button and the starter relay there is a break in the circut.

Assuming its not a broken wire (which I don't think it is) the only thing on the wiring diagram between them is the auxillary starter relay (ASR).

The ASR ties in the safety devices (roll over sensor, side stand sensor, clutch/gear sensor) to the main starter relay so that if all the correct conditions for safe starting are not met...you quessed it....the starter won't work. All I need to do is find it and check the connections on it as they are apparantly quite susceptable to corrosion. In anycase I think this is a good theory and hopefully fixes my problem. Will give it another crack tomorrow if I get a chance and report in.

Don't know if anyone is terribly interested in all this but righting it down dose help with the thinking process and maybe it will be useful to the next poor sod who finds themself stranded at the gas station :oi-grr:

[10bikekid]

I have been scratching my nut for the past few hours checking and rechecking all the circuits connected to the starter. I'm now thinking my problem is related to the aux starter relay....which I can't find! There is definately 12v passing through the starter button when its activaed so I know thats ok.

At the other end of the circut is the starter relay which has 4 contacts on it. the top 2 both have constant 12.5volts so I have deduced they provide power to all the bikes electrics from the battery. They are also routed through the main 30amp fuse. I am therorizing the bottom 2 contacts once powered activate the starter motor and I beleive the wiring diagram confirms this. So with the key on and the starter button in there should be power to the bottom contacts to activate the starter relay....but there isn't. So somewhere between the starter button and the starter relay there is a break in the circut.

Assuming its not a broken wire (which I don't think it is) the only thing on the wiring diagram between them is the auxillary starter relay (ASR).

The ASR ties in the safety devices (roll over sensor, side stand sensor, clutch/gear sensor) to the main starter relay so that if all the correct conditions for safe starting are not met...you quessed it....the starter won't work. All I need to do is find it and check the connections on it as they are apparantly quite susceptable to corrosion. In anycase I think this is a good theory and hopefully fixes my problem. Will give it another crack tomorrow if I get a chance and report in.

Don't know if anyone is terribly interested in all this but righting it down dose help with the thinking process and maybe it will be useful to the next poor sod who finds themself stranded at the gas station :oi-grr:

It beats fishing and watching grass grow :yes:

[dino3310]

It beats fishing and watching grass grow :yes:

BEATS FISHING!!!!!!:bash: the only thing that beats fishing is Fishing and having a beer, rod in one hand and beer in the other :laugh:





as you were

[Night Falcon]

Well I found the ASR and the squished wire that was going into it so looks like I found the problem. Attached is a picture of the relay and its location for anyone who might be wondering where to find it in the future.

[dino3310]

Thats one thing i love about the XR.... no masses of wireing to worry about.
clad you found the problem, nothing worse than a electrical gremlin

[Night Falcon]

Thats one thing i love about the XR.... no masses of wireing to worry about.
clad you found the problem, nothing worse than a electrical gremlin

cheers Dino....might celebrate by going for a fish :D


Have also said sorry to the side stand sensor for all the rotten names I've called it over the past few days :innocent:

[Waipukbiker]

Glad you found it mate, that big orange bugger was a bit heavy to pushstart, but with a team effort ( Including the cook from the P/hau pub) the beast roared into life again.

[10bikekid]

BEATS FISHING!!!!!!:bash: the only thing that beats fishing is Fishing and having a beer, rod in one hand and beer in the other :laugh:





as you were

What PC thing I meant to say was man I wish I was fishing and watching grass grow (in either order):gob:

[dino3310]

a bit :Offtopic:
but MMmmmmmm might have to start a KB fishing thread.

[tri boy]

a bit :Offtopic:
but MMmmmmmm might have to start a KB fishing thread.
Did I tel you I caught a Wahoo lately?
No? Ok, I caught a Wahoo in the last month or so.:motu:

[blacksheep]

If ithe SS switch is the problem shouldn't the bike still start in neautral? The switch is designed to turn the engine off only when its in gear with the clutch out and the sidestand down. So if its poked then the bike should start but die every time you put it in gear with the stand up or down? Plus the bike runs perfectly once ya get it going....BUT despite this lodgic I'm still leaning towards that as the problem....gut feeling....or could just be last nights fish :shifty:

Can you confirm your problem did not allow the bike to start at all blacksheep?

glad to see you got it sorted:sweatdrop

[DR Girl]

Just had a read of this thread since you first posted for help Marty.
Well done, you did it all on your own :niceone:
Any chance you could practice changing tires ? ;) The 200 would be a nice, easy start, then you could move up to the 690 :););)

[DR Girl]

Any luck yet? My bike came with side stand switch bypass so lucky there...have you had a look through the workshop manual schematic? I'll have a look through it later.

Great news, the frame all came off yesterday.... and i did most of the wrenching.

Also, if you are not squeamish , you can watch me unscrew the first bolt out of my tibia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sfCFBjzFF4

Fab news vegeman. Can't say I've checked out the you tube yet. Will work up to that.
Heal fast & I raise the three bananas LOL :banana::banana::banana: :banana::banana::banana:

[Night Falcon]

It lives again :woohoo: One thing about tracking down wiring problems is you learn a lot about ya bike so in a way I'm better off for having had a broken starter....always look on the bright sibe of life de de, de de, de dump de do de de :whistle:

[vegeman]

It lives again :woohoo: One thing about tracking down wiring problems is you learn a lot about ya bike so in a way I'm better off for having had a broken starter....always look on the bright sibe of life de de, de de, de dump de do de de :whistle:

good stuff, and yes agree the learnings are always handy...so...what was the wiring problem then? -

[Night Falcon]

the main loom that runs over the battery and under the fuse holder was rubbing against the top of the tank and broke a couple of wires. have tried to make sure its sitting better but will have to keep an eye on it in future. took a bit to track it down though!!

[vegeman]

Fab news vegeman. Can't say I've checked out the you tube yet. Will work up to that.
Heal fast & I raise the three bananas LOL :banana::banana::banana: :banana::banana::banana:

yup...thanks...so pleased that I got away with the injury

Crikey this week, I've been really really really irritable, and not sleeping, and not coping...and really confused - as with the wire and stuff off...I expected bliss.

It looks like that I may have to wean myself off the drugs. I've been on soo many over these last 4 month, it's probably no surprise....oh well. I'm healing and itching where the pins come out is driving me mental.

Also...when I had my old pants cut off, I bought the matching new pants for my new Klim Badlands pro jacket....and finally managed to put them on...nice :niceone: - I'm gonna look very cool now :blip:

[Night Falcon]

yup...thanks...so pleased that I got away with the injury

Crikey this week, I've been really really really irritable, and not sleeping, and not coping...and really confused - as with the wire and stuff off...I expected bliss.

It looks like that I may have to wean myself off the drugs. I've been on soo many over these last 4 month, it's probably no surprise....oh well. I'm healing and itching where the pins come out is driving me mental.

Also...when I had my old pants cut off, I bought the matching new pants for my new Klim Badlands pro jacket....and finally managed to put them on...nice :niceone: - I'm gonna look very cool now :blip:

The drugs certainly knock ya around alright!! I went cold turkey cos i got so fed up with the mood swings....mate it was like comming off heroin...easing off was probably more senseable but hey I wasn't thinkng too clearly at the time :facepalm:

[.chris]

As part of my end of winter bike tear-down/suspension service I have noticed a couple of wires in my wireloom which the airbox has rubbed on and worn through the outer plastic of the wires (only on 2 wires), I think I might have just got lucky and avoided Marty's problem.

I just did a bit of a re-tape , then adjusted how the loom sits so another area will rub now, should be good for another 50,000km.:clap:

I look forward to seeing how the suspension feels after a service, the forks felt fine but the rear shock was getting pretty bouncy.
I have also recently done the wheel bearings, don't bother with the KTM ones, they are the same as the standard bearings just more expensive.

Cheers
.chris

[vegeman]

As part of my end of winter bike tear-down/suspension service I have noticed a couple of wires in my wireloom which the airbox has rubbed on and worn through the outer plastic of the wires (only on 2 wires), I think I might have just got lucky and avoided Marty's problem.

I just did a bit of a re-tape , then adjusted how the loom sits so another area will rub now, should be good for another 50,000km.:clap:

I look forward to seeing how the suspension feels after a service, the forks felt fine but the rear shock was getting pretty bouncy.
I have also recently done the wheel bearings, don't bother with the KTM ones, they are the same as the standard bearings just more expensive.

Cheers
.chris

50,000K's - cool, anything else you want to share? I've read a shit load on the fuel filters and fuel pump prob's but us kiwis don't seem to mention much about it...is our fuel better? are we all just lucky muthas?, have you serviced yours?

I haven't touched the rear suspenders yet, and was thinking about lubing the swingarm and linkage...shame they don't have grease nipples.

Yup..just did a rear bearing as well. NTN 6205...common bearing, just get the C3 version(I think) as it's the sealed one.

[.chris]

50,000K's - cool, anything else you want to share? I've read a shit load on the fuel filters and fuel pump prob's but us kiwis don't seem to mention much about it...is our fuel better? are we all just lucky muthas?, have you serviced yours?

From what I understand, the fuel pump failure seems to be a US thing (not much mention of it in EU/AUS), which I think is part because of their high ethanol content in their fuel (this is pure speculation of course, I am certainly no expert and have I do not have any facts to back this up (other than my 50,000 fuel pump trouble free km's)).

I have replaced the clutch (which probably only need a new seal, but of course the KTM Service department would rather charge you $400 for a new clutch than spend $10 on a new seal and a bit of effort).

New rear rotor and brake pads at 25,000km (worn to inside spec). - Have used various cheapo rear brake pads since, probably been through 4 sets with the replacement rotor.

New display cluster at 4000km (warranty replacement)
New lower tank bushing at 5000km (they had movement, turns it out they end up with that movement after about 500km with new bushings anyway, so I have left as-is since).
Chain and sprockets done at about 30,000
New Clutch at about 34,000 (very approx here, memory is flakey on this one)
New front pads (brembo) at aprox 35,000, noticed a little wear on the front rotor, might need replacing in another 20-30,000km
Bearings done at about 40,000

Just heard back from Pro-Ride, and it appears there is some wear on the inside of the forks (caused by lower clamps being over-tightened, a special thanks to who-ever put my bike together and decided to ignore the torque specs), which means they need to re re-anodised as part of the service.
And the rear shock bushings needed replacing.

Pretty sure that is all that I have done.

[vegeman]

From what I understand, the fuel pump failure seems to be a US thing (not much mention of it in EU/AUS), which I think is part because of their high ethanol content in their fuel (this is pure speculation of course, I am certainly no expert and have I do not have any facts to back this up (other than my 50,000 fuel pump trouble free km's)).

I have replaced the clutch

All sounds really good. Nice to know that the bikes can work without panicking (I probably buy the CA cycleworks fuel pump to put in the spares kits...as quite a few bikes now use that unit including my mates RXV550)

Likewise for me...new dash, chain sprockets, brake pads a wheel bearing. Speaking of clutch...I thought mine had packed up when come from Gisborne adventure ride, as when overtaking on the road and given the throttle the wide open...I could hear the engine and clutch slipping under load...bugger I thought. After calling the shop etc, they said it sounded like clutch wear BUT, during the many hours of riding back to Welly...I had the answer.

I had topped up the clutch fluid the morning of the adventure, and then a couple of thousand kays later, with a bit of clutch abuse the plates probably wore a little (even some minor steel stuck to the magnetic drain plug) HOWEVER the KTM's clutch wears differently in my mind at least, in the sense that the clutch fluid 'rises' with wear. So, with the wear that I had done, with the extra fluid...the back pressure of the load couldnt go anywhere so it actually activated the clutch. I then stopped the bike, whipped out the leatherman and loosened the clutch fluid cover, and instantly fluid squirted out!...I whiped some extra fluid out, tightend it all back up and it worked fine!. I've now isntalled the sigutech double o-ringed clutch slave as well.

[Night Falcon]

good data Chris...can you recall how much you paid for a new rear rotor? I'm pretty sure mine is either at or below min spec but the KTM replacement is like $250.00 :no:

On the bright side...got my new summer shoes fitted today!!

[vegeman]

good data Chris...can you recall how much you paid for a new rear rotor? I'm pretty sure mine is either at or below min spec but the KTM replacement is like $250.00 :no:

On the bright side...got my new summer shoes fitted today!!

cheaper than the $580 for the front! :-)

I just laced up my new spare rear wheel today. I bought a genuine DID black dirtstar 18" rim with spokes from Rad Mfg so I have a complete unit. This means that I can have the option of which dual sport rear match the activity ie MT21 or E07 (when it arrives)

[.chris]

good data Chris...can you recall how much you paid for a new rear rotor? I'm pretty sure mine is either at or below min spec but the KTM replacement is like $250.00 :no:

On the bright side...got my new summer shoes fitted today!!

I got the KTM one (which is made by galfer), I think it was around $180 for a standard, or $200ish for the wavey ktm one (same as stock, so I went with that).

[Night Falcon]

Himmel da news 1190 adv

http://www.ktm.com/at/haendler-services.html

[Crim]

in english please,....,.,.

http://www.mcnews.com.au/NewsArchives/2012/September/KTM_Adventure.htm

[Night Falcon]

I didn't think the day would ever come but.....My 140/80/18 E07 finally arrived this morning! Have already fitted the K60 so will put it in my tyre rack next to a half worn T63 and a slick TKC80 until its required in approximately 7-8000 klm's. :banana: Apparantly there is going to be a price hike on the new stock of E07's but LMS sold it to me at the old price they had quoted so thumbs up to them :niceone:

[Night Falcon]

Another KTM fopar to watch out for. The fan shroud & power pug rubbing holes in the radiator. There is a few Ideas for a fix on ADVrider but first I'll have to send the radiator off to the shop for some pluggin :crazy:

[vegeman]

Another KTM fopar to watch out for. The fan shroud & power pug rubbing holes in the radiator. There is a few Ideas for a fix on ADVrider but first I'll have to send the radiator off to the shop for some pluggin :crazy:

Thx for the heads up on this , as it's something that I'd never check....whenw did you find this one?

[vegeman]

Also, went for a ride overvthe rimutuksa and had a coffee at matinborough a few weeks ago. There were a few DR rider's out and one came up and asked how i was doing and was my bike still quicker than festy on his ape 550.... i didn't know him but was he introduced himself as eddieb - i laughed. It was really nice to meet people from the virtual world, and it really topped off my ride.

I've been pushing the exercise and physio and have been riding the mountain bike which has been brilliant for getting the knee going but lately, I've gone a bit hard and suffering. I want to ride the west coast safari ride in Jan

Last job for me on the bike is getting the front forks revavlved - still to harsh.

[Eddieb]

Also, went for a ride overvthe rimutuksa and had a coffee at matinborough a few weeks ago. There were a few DR rider's out and one came up and asked how i was doing and was my bike still quicker than festy on his ape 550.... i didn't know him but was he introduced himself as eddieb - i laughed. It was really nice to meet people from the virtual world, and it really topped off my ride.

:cool: you're welcome. we had a good ride out to Sutherlands hut.

[Night Falcon]

Thx for the heads up on this , as it's something that I'd never check....whenw did you find this one?

I only noticed it last weekend after giving the 690 a hose down. I spotted a whole lot of detergent coming from the radiator every time i put the hose on it. The location was right in front of the fan, so pulled it to bits yesdee and found the culpret. A quick google search and low and behold heaps of other 690's with the identical problem. I would definately check yours as it seems only a matter of time till they wear holes through the radiator. The fix is here FYI http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=753721. Plus great to hear your back on horse :2thumbsup


Also, went for a ride overvthe rimutuksa and had a coffee at matinborough a few weeks ago. There were a few DR rider's out and one came up and asked how i was doing and was my bike still quicker than festy on his ape 550.... i didn't know him but was he introduced himself as eddieb - i laughed. It was really nice to meet people from the virtual world, and it really topped off my ride.

I've been pushing the exercise and physio and have been riding the mountain bike which has been brilliant for getting the knee going but lately, I've gone a bit hard and suffering. I want to ride the west coast safari ride in Jan

Last job for me on the bike is getting the front forks revavlved - still to harsh.


yup eddie's a long term inmate on KB and former KTM 950adv owner. (and former member of the KB broken limb club)

[vegeman]

yeah, it has been great to be less of veg...well physcailly. BUT, and its a big fucking but...I've been going a bit hard on the exercise to whip this kneee and muscles into shape and it let me know this morning. I was riding MTB to hospital/physio and the MTB has been great for the knee as it bends it wonderfully, yet I think it said...enough! and massive stabbing pains in the back of the knee...holy shit. Ended up riding home using one leg...I'm pissed off. I guess its the ol' preverbial adage of 2 steps forward one back.

bah!

I was hoping to be ready for Yamaha West Coast Safari, down south in Jan...but that is feeling very unlikely at the moment :-(

[Night Falcon]

yeah, it has been great to be less of veg...well physcailly. BUT, and its a big fucking but...I've been going a bit hard on the exercise to whip this kneee and muscles into shape and it let me know this morning. I was riding MTB to hospital/physio and the MTB has been great for the knee as it bends it wonderfully, yet I think it said...enough! and massive stabbing pains in the back of the knee...holy shit. Ended up riding home using one leg...I'm pissed off. I guess its the ol' preverbial adage of 2 steps forward one back.

bah!

I was hoping to be ready for Yamaha West Coast Safari, down south in Jan...but that is feeling very unlikely at the moment :-(

A lot of my recovery was exactly that..one limp forward three limps back BUT you will get there :2thumbsup They don't call you a "patient" for nothing it seems!

[Night Falcon]

radiator all fixed and looking good as new! Now I just need to track down some rubber edging for the fan shroud for somewhere :scratch:

[vegeman]

radiator all fixed and looking good as new! Now I just need to track down some rubber edging for the fan shroud for somewhere :scratch:

You sure have been finding some of the less common issues whichnis great for us :cool:
I went and checked mine albeit briefly and ending up making a little spacer from aluminium tube that allowed the fan to sit a few mm away from the radiator so it wasn't touching. We will see if that affects the cooling as the unit sits so flush, it's probably creating pressure difference and possibly better airfkow but then again might cause no difference at all.

Thanks for posting :2thumbsup

[.chris]

I did the simple fix to this one when I first got the bike, just put a couple of washers on the lower fan bolt, it then holds the fan far enough away from the radiator.

[Night Falcon]

heres my fix. Had to use some split tubing as the washers wern't quite enough to clear where the repairs were made. Seems to be working ok though.

[Night Falcon]

1000 posts on KB is such an important milestone and only 2 infractions :cool: I've been coverting one of those spinning rainbow cube thingamajiggies under my tag line for some time now....one less item on my bucket list ;)

[vegeman]

Hey,
Well, I rode my first wee gravel road in the weekend and first corner nerves and general flapping about rogue holes etc...but after 10 minutes, started to feel normal again....so good to be back.

As part of my ongoing performance, I recently did the 2nd and 3rd gear power restriction removal ie removed the wires out of the connector and was surprised that it is noticeable. I had previously thought that the akra map disabled this as part of loading the that...but clearly not. As a test... I have a bit of road, that I occassionally wheelie up...and I know that I could power wheelie in second with the bike coming up easily enough. Now with the wire removed now...same test, and I nearly got spat off the back with the wheel coming up a bit quicker and bit higher than expected...eek, but good all the same.

Did you chop yours?

Also the mod has actually put some more stress on my clutch and over a few hours, in the heat...the bloody clutch started slipping under full load. The clutch is wearing, so had to remove some more clutch fluid to lessen the problem. The bike has 29,000k's now so might need to do some friction plates...have you done any clutch work yet?

[Night Falcon]

Hey,
Well, I rode my first wee gravel road in the weekend and first corner nerves and general flapping about rogue holes etc...but after 10 minutes, started to feel normal again....so good to be back.

As part of my ongoing performance, I recently did the 2nd and 3rd gear power restriction removal ie removed the wires out of the connector and was surprised that it is noticeable. I had previously thought that the akra map disabled this as part of loading the that...but clearly not. As a test... I have a bit of road, that I occassionally wheelie up...and I know that I could power wheelie in second with the bike coming up easily enough. Now with the wire removed now...same test, and I nearly got spat off the back with the wheel coming up a bit quicker and bit higher than expected...eek, but good all the same.

Did you chop yours?

Also the mod has actually put some more stress on my clutch and over a few hours, in the heat...the bloody clutch started slipping under full load. The clutch is wearing, so had to remove some more clutch fluid to lessen the problem. The bike has 29,000k's now so might need to do some friction plates...have you done any clutch work yet?

firstly, great to hear you're back in the saddle! Took me a few rides/months to get over the mental stresses of thinking every corner was my last one. Don't know I'm even totally over it 4 years latter!.


As for the 2/3rd gear mod, yup did mine some time back. One thing I have noticed is the MAP selector which I relocated to my dash stopped working around the same time? Don't know if its related but have checked my wiring for faults and is ok so would be good to see if yours still works?

Havn't had any clutch problems (at 25K) except replacing the slave after the chain wiped it out :facepalm:. It stiil seems ok. I don't do alot of real slow speed stuff where I'm slipping it so hope it will last for a good while longer!

[vegeman]

yeah thanks it's great to ride, and ironically...I have to ride more, as to far to walk with a limp :-D, but even that is getting better.

I'll check to see if the map feels different, I always leave it in standard mode so very rarely change it. for me the advanced mode just made the throttle too twitchy especially at slow speed ie it was on or off... but it's an easy check.

my clutch only showed its first sign of wear after last years adventure ride which would have been about the 25,000K mark....I'm sure I said it someone on the forums, and you probably know...but as the clutch wears the clutch fluid goes up. I've read a lot of people have discovered that after a new clutch investment :bleh:. ...it seems that the cheeky way to get more life out the pads is to install some washers in top of the clutch springs which compensate for the wear on the pads, and therefore return the pressure to keep the power solid.

[.chris]

Had my first actual proper break-down on the 690 yesterday, I had been having the battery light coming on after starting (sometimes) for a while now, I figured maybe it is not charging as well as it should.
And yesterday it came on while riding on the beach, soon afterwards the bike started to splutter/backfire and then died entirely, when I power the bike on the lights and everything seem fine but I can't hear the fuel pump wind up. And when I hit the started, the bike seems to reset (dash resets, like when you first turn it on).

I am not entirely sure what the problem is, I am guessing it might just be the battery is bung and not charged properly, or it could be a dead fuel pump or some other electrical fault. Have to get her back into the workshop and see what I can find.

Not bad to have my first actual breakdown at 58,000 km. So glad it happened close to home not while I was in the middle of no-where on my recent south island trip.

[Night Falcon]

yeah the 690 gets the odd bad rap for reliability but i think its more to do with getting your head around riding computerised bikes that folks struggle with.

It sure sounds like a battery problem don't it? When my battery died a while back it had similar problems. I thought it was the pump so removed the injector and turned the key on after putting the battery on a charger and fuel came squirting out so guessed that wasn't the problem. The battery soon died again so repalced it with a motobat...excellent battery so far for about $100.00. Be interesting to see what ya find out :corn:

[dino3310]

sounds like the Battery to me Chris

[Waihou Thumper]

Chris, how did you get home mate? Get the bike going again?
Resort to the AA Plus Card on the beach.......wait 9 hours? aka our friend on the Motu....:(
It obviously sounds electrical.....I bought a MotoBatt for the aprilia, left it three weeks, it fired up fine!
AND I thought it was aprilias fault at first, till I figured it was battery related....

[.chris]

Chris, how did you get home mate? Get the bike going again?
Resort to the AA Plus Card on the beach.......wait 9 hours? aka our friend on the Motu....:(
It obviously sounds electrical.....I bought a MotoBatt for the aprilia, left it three weeks, it fired up fine!
AND I thought it was aprilias fault at first, till I figured it was battery related....

Luckily I was almost on SH16 when it died, so I just pushed it along to a local bussiness and have it stored there, I need to go pick it up tomorrow.

[.chris]

After about 6 hours on the trickle charger the bike is back running again. All *seems* fine.

Is the battery likely to die on me again? Shoiuld I replace it anyway? Would rather not spend the $120 on a new battery if I don't need to.

[dino3310]

well you could just imaging having to push the bike from spaghetti junction:(


i'd rather be safe than sorry... maybe get the battery tested if all ok start testing other shit to find why it lost power, like you said earlier it would have sucked if it had happened on your trek south in the middle of the wop wops, lucky it happened close to home

[Night Falcon]

thats how my battery died...slowly and annoyingly. If its still the orignal one then you've got twice the life I did.

[Devil]

After about 6 hours on the trickle charger the bike is back running again. All *seems* fine.

Is the battery likely to die on me again? Shoiuld I replace it anyway? Would rather not spend the $120 on a new battery if I don't need to.

I'd expect it to die again (particularly when the weather turns colder. If you're planning a big ride then personally i'd rather be happier knowing I had a new battery. Could chuck a shorai in there to ditch more weight.

[clint640]

After about 6 hours on the trickle charger the bike is back running again. All *seems* fine.

Is the battery likely to die on me again? Shoiuld I replace it anyway? Would rather not spend the $120 on a new battery if I don't need to.

If you don't have one get yourself a $9.99 multimeter (ask the internets how to use it if you are not sure) & check the voltage over the battery with the bike running to check that it is charging, you should see 14.5 volts or thereabouts. Check the connections on the main wires coming off the batt while you're there. If all that checks out & the batt still runs out of mojo then you probably need a new one.

Cheers
Clint

[.chris]

If you don't have one get yourself a $9.99 multimeter (ask the internets how to use it if you are not sure) & check the voltage over the battery with the bike running to check that it is charging, you should see 14.5 volts or thereabouts. Check the connections on the main wires coming off the batt while you're there. If all that checks out & the batt still runs out of mojo then you probably need a new one.

Cheers
Clint

Good tip thanks.
I just tried that (already had a multimeter), it appears to only be 12.2v while running, same as while off, I guess it could be why the battery died (just not charged). Or could the bad battery do that?

[Night Falcon]

I notice the FI light is showing on your avatar speedo as well, might wanna get that checked out bro :cool:

[.chris]

I notice the FI light is showing on your avatar speedo as well, might wanna get that checked out bro :cool:

That is normal, I get worried when it goes off :killingme

[pomgolian]

Good tip thanks.
I just tried that (already had a multimeter), it appears to only be 12.2v while running, same as while off, I guess it could be why the battery died (just not charged). Or could the bad battery do that?

Nope sounds like its not charging raise the revs a bit & see if the meter reading goes up if not its not charging properly which is why the battery keeps going flat so better get your dealer to check it.

Paul

[.chris]

Nope sounds like its not charging raise the revs a bit & see if the meter reading goes up if not its not charging properly which is why the battery keeps going flat so better get your dealer to check it.

Paul

Maybe it was only showing 12v because the battery was fully charged? Will have to try and drain it a little and and try the rev's tomorrow.
Please don't make me take it back to the dealer, I blew my repair budget last time it was there. :baby:

[NordieBoy]

Should be around 14v when charged.
Mine was at 13.9v and when you turned the key, it went to 0v.

That would normally mean there's a short, but that would also mean smoke...

A load tester didn't even register.

$87 for a new MotoBatt...

[vegeman]

Hi,
I recently bought a cheap digital volt meter to plug into the ACC port so I could check the operating voltage and get some heads up on my electrickery.

Battery Voltage during running on the road is 13.7V on my 690, and is pretty darn constant. Engine off is about 12.7 ie rest overnight.

Monitoring Voltage, is like monitoring oil pressure guages as it can give some warnings on battery/electric performance ie.

If it can't get to 13.5 volts during operation...then lots of proib's.. i(battery dying or alternator/charging cct not working)
If it does get to 13.7, but overnight voltage drops to say <12 then battery is getting real bad.


I put a motobatt in last year....been real solid.

...gotta go...plane to catch...eek

[Night Falcon]

Hi,
I recently bought a cheap digital volt meter to plug into the ACC port so I could check the operating voltage and get some heads up on my electrickery.

Battery Voltage during running on the road is 13.7V on my 690, and is pretty darn constant. Engine off is about 12.7 ie rest overnight.

Monitoring Voltage, is like monitoring oil pressure guages as it can give some warnings on battery/electric performance ie.

If it can't get to 13.5 volts during operation...then lots of proib's.. i(battery dying or alternator/charging cct not working)
If it does get to 13.7, but overnight voltage drops to say <12 then battery is getting real bad.


I put a motobatt in last year....been real solid.

...gotta go...plane to catch...eek

My money is on it being the battery shedding its mortal coil. Have never herd anyone with alternator problems on the 690 that didn't turn out to be a dead battery that is!

[clint640]

My money is on it being the battery shedding its mortal coil. Have never herd anyone with alternator problems on the 690 that didn't turn out to be a dead battery that is!

Dodgy batts can certainly do funny stuff, To eliminate that as a problem without buying another you could take it out, disconnect the batt in the car & jumper that to the bike then see if you get the normal 13.7V while running. Just be careful not to short anything.

Cheers
Clint

[.chris]

Dodgy batts can certainly do funny stuff, To eliminate that as a problem without buying another you could take it out, disconnect the batt in the car & jumper that to the bike then see if you get the normal 13.7V while running. Just be careful not to short anything.

Cheers
Clint

That sounds a bit dangerous, I have ordered a new battery hopefully that will sort it out. If not I will have to take it to the shop.
The current battery is at least 3 years old, fingers crossed that is the problem.

[pomgolian]

That sounds a bit dangerous, I have ordered a new battery hopefully that will sort it out. If not I will have to take it to the shop.
The current battery is at least 3 years old, fingers crossed that is the problem.

My money is on a charging system/earth problem (sadly) if your not getting the right voltage when running (as long as your meter is reading correctly), especially as the battery (mortal coil:killingme) is not completely dead but who knows.

[.chris]

My money is on a charging system/earth problem (sadly) if your not getting the right voltage when running (as long as your meter is reading correctly), especially as the battery (mortal coil:killingme) is not completely dead but who knows.

You might be right on that one, new battery installed and it still appears to only give 12v when running. Bugger, guess I am going to have to get someone who has a clue to have a look. Damn it! :mad:

[pomgolian]

double check your meter 1st on your car as if its a cheap one it may be bung giving you false readings. But i think Mr KTM is calling you in.


You might be right on that one, new battery installed and it still appears to only give 12v when running. Bugger, guess I am going to have to get someone who has a clue to have a look. Damn it! :mad:

[.chris]

Bugger it was as I feared.... expensive.
Apparently one of the stator wires (negative I think) has burnt out, so that needs replacing and blow me down if the ktm oem part is no the cheapest option available (who would have guessed its cheaper than getting the current one re-wired). But shit me, usual ktm story, $170 USD part = $350nzd. *le sigh*

And of course comes ex austria, so could be flipping ages before it arrives.