My KTM 690 Adventure

[Night Falcon]

Bugger it was as I feared.... expensive.
Apparently one of the stator wires (negative I think) has burnt out, so that needs replacing and blow me down if the ktm oem part is no the cheapest option available (who would have guessed its cheaper than getting the current one re-wired). But shit me, usual ktm story, $170 USD part = $350nzd. *le sigh*

And of course comes ex austria, so could be flipping ages before it arrives.

Bad luck Chris. Maybe theres someone in here who has a contact in the states who you can use to forward one through KTM twins? Might not be cheaper but you will get it way quicker than KTM NZ can deliver it.

[clint640]

Bad luck Chris. Maybe theres someone in here who has a contact in the states who you can use to forward one through KTM twins? Might not be cheaper but you will get it way quicker than KTM NZ can deliver it.

Just use a shipping forwarder like comgateway or the NZ post one. You'd probably land it for about NZ$250. I always do the numbers on pricier stuff, especially if it's not stocked in NZ. The local KTM importer has the option of making some money off me, or none at all, frequently they choose to make none at all by pricing stupidly higher than the US.

Cheers
Clint

[nooles]

Bugger it was as I feared.... expensive.
Apparently one of the stator wires (negative I think) has burnt out, so that needs replacing and blow me down if the ktm oem part is no the cheapest option available (who would have guessed its cheaper than getting the current one re-wired). But shit me, usual ktm story, $170 USD part = $350nzd. *le sigh*

And of course comes ex austria, so could be flipping ages before it arrives.

Similar story Chris, the Adventure died on me back in late Nov and I took it down to Palmy to get rebuilt:weep: well its the end of Feb now and I just got her back, apparently the other side of the world is a long way away oh and expensive $3,267:oi-grr:. But in saying that they have given me a 6 month warranty because I used genuine parts if anything was to go wrong they would replace the lot.

[Eddieb]

The local KTM importer has the option of making some money off me, or none at all, frequently they choose to make none at all by pricing stupidly higher than the US.

+ lots, though for me a big bugbear with KTM was the delivery timelines.

[Waihou Thumper]

Similar story Chris, the Adventure died on me back in late Nov and I took it down to Palmy to get rebuilt:weep: well its the end of Feb now and I just got her back, apparently the other side of the world is a long way away oh and expensive $3,267:oi-grr:. But in saying that they have given me a 6 month warranty because I used genuine parts if anything was to go wrong they would replace the lot.


She owes you a bit then? Better behave out there...:)

[dino3310]

She owes you a bit then? Better behave out there...:)

naa man didnt you read "its under warranty"

cane the shit out of it nooles:headbang:

[10bikekid]

Similar story Chris, the Adventure died on me back in late Nov and I took it down to Palmy to get rebuilt:weep: well its the end of Feb now and I just got her back, apparently the other side of the world is a long way away oh and expensive $3,267:oi-grr:. But in saying that they have given me a 6 month warranty because I used genuine parts if anything was to go wrong they would replace the lot.

The Joys of KTM ownership, Dang why cant Honda make us something with Character :crazy: (XR600s exempt Dino;) )

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[Night Falcon]

The Joys of KTM ownership, Dang why cant Honda make us something with Character :crazy: (XR600s exempt Dino;) )



Nice photo.

Finnally landed my GoPro on Monday :clap: so once I workout how it works I'll offically be in the movie business :mega: Dropped DR's & BMW's escape me now hehehe:devil2:

[richyrich]

Bugger it was as I feared.... expensive.
Apparently one of the stator wires (negative I think) has burnt out, so that needs replacing and blow me down if the ktm oem part is no the cheapest option available (who would have guessed its cheaper than getting the current one re-wired). But shit me, usual ktm story, $170 USD part = $350nzd. *le sigh*

And of course comes ex austria, so could be flipping ages before it arrives.

pm me reguarding rewinding your stator,as i have contacts,that do that sort of shit.

[10bikekid]

Nice photo.

Finnally landed my GoPro on Monday :clap: so once I workout how it works I'll offically be in the movie business :mega: Dropped DR's & BMW's escape me now hehehe:devil2:

Nice, Orange is the best colour to film :cool:

[Night Falcon]

Got myself a piece of adventure riding training equipment and its defineatley 3 bananas brilliant

:banana::wari::banana:

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[Night Falcon]

Some pics its an 08 Beta Rev3 250 Fun Machine!

[DR Girl]

LOL. I have a long way to go. You two look gooood. :headbang:
So funny taking off standing up. I just wanted to sit down first but NO SEAT!! So funny :killingme
Using the clutch in 1st to slow me down to "nail" lol those cones was the secret. . . . :yeah::blip::clap:

A FAB wee FUN bike Marty. Well done :-)

[Waipukbiker]

Awesome, got yourself a real fun toy there mate, You will have it nailed soon enough, Its been a loooong time since I was on a trials bike last so it was neat to get back one today, really enjoyed it.

[GPS MAN]

Good looking Toy!

I can't wait to have a go:niceone:

[Night Falcon]

Good looking Toy!

I can't wait to have a go:niceone:

shssssssh don't let my wife hear you call it a toy, I'm not allowed more toys....exercise equipment is ok though :shifty: Will have to get together and set up a bit of a course so you can show me how to ride the little sucker!

[jimiwith2eyes]

Hi Folks,

Welcome to my KTM 690 adventure thread!

Strictly speaking its not qiute an adventure bike yet but but over the next month I hope to add a number of goodies which will transform the not so humble 690 Enduro into an even less humble 690 adventure.

My shopping list includes the following:

Rally Fairing
New Exhaust
Low front fender
Linkage Lowerer
GPS (Zumo 550)
Foot Peg upgrade
Seat upgrade
Bar Riser 65mm
Scott Oiler
Headlight protector
Panier Racks
Pelican hard cases
Safari Tank

I hope you enjoy the ride.

First couple of days work photo's :

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/DSC00029.jpg

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/DSC00030.jpg

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/DSC00031.jpg

Looks good!!!! I see your like me and just have to make your bike feel just right eh'??!?? Happii riding dude!!!! maybe we'll meet up at the end of a dusty ole rod someday...............

[pomgolian]

Cool bike Marty reminds me of the events i watched in the UK of guys on trials bikes riding over cars and those huge cable rolls and made it look soooo easy, whats the plan with using it ? are you going to enter trials events like the one they have at Karhuranaki station ? Never ridden one but would love a go just to see what its like.

[Night Falcon]

Looks good!!!! I see your like me and just have to make your bike feel just right eh'??!?? Happii riding dude!!!! maybe we'll meet up at the end of a dusty ole rod someday...............

yup, the 690 needs a few mods to make it more suited to adv riding but once sorted its a pretty handy machine. Never know, may end up down in the deep south someday :yes:


Cool bike Marty reminds me of the events i watched in the UK of guys on trials bikes riding over cars and those huge cable rolls and made it look soooo easy, whats the plan with using it ? are you going to enter trials events like the one they have at Karhuranaki station ? Never ridden one but would love a go just to see what its like.

Cheers bro. My plan is to just have fun on it, do some trials-adventure riding and learn some new skills. Have had her out couple of times and had a blast. Takes some getting used to but a laugh a minute. Your more than welcome to have a fang on her once I've replaced the top end roller bearing I cooked after drowning it last weekend....but we will have the cameras watching :devil2:

[vegeman]

Hey,
Just replaced both rocker arms, as I had developed a bad clacking from the top of the motor. AT first I thought I might have done something wrong when I installed the MCCT from rally raid...but it wasn't that.

SInce I didn't know which one was failing, I got both...pretty cheap so why stress over which one, and if one was going perhaps the other might (or might not). Easy replacement to do at home...so did it yesterday. Also has bought the hotcams shim kit so that I got all the sizes at my fingertip.

SOoo much better, and power has returned as well. The last couple of weeks, I've hated riding the bike...noisy, bad starting, lost low end power...etc.

I don't see this failure/wear as a bad thing, its the price to pay for superb performance...33000k's

V
PS Moved from Hawkes bay thread...

[Speed Trickle]

Great project bike, I was considering doing the same, but I do a bit of trail riding and wanted to keep the 690 as trailesq as possible.

What are your plans for the seat? I got a corbin for mine, it is rock hard but heaps wider than the stock one, so that at least feels better for the longer days on the bike.

I also got the 20mm KTM bar risers, but wished I had got something higher more adjustable, I am thinking of getting some Rox Risers.
http://www.roxspeedfx.com/subcatpage/268//InstalledDualSportRisers.jpg

Have got a pair of rox for sale on trade me, the anti vibe version currently fitted on my 690. They work well but selling to buy a fancy damper set up

[Speed Trickle]

Looking good. Trying to fit things up to the different angles on a bike is always a bit of work, but with basic tools, some time & a few scraps of alloy ya can make some very cool bike bling. I'd be inclined to integrate some sort of carrier into the rack, having somewhere to bungy on a rainsuit or spare jersey can be handy when you're not using the luggage. A few bits of stainless rod set acrossways into holes along the inside edges of the rails would be one tidy way of doing that.

Cheers
Clint

Hey Clint, hows your auto electrical career been progressing since the lost weekend ride? That was some fun and some not so much. To keep up the good name of bad workmen I decided my inability to round a corner on gravel was purely the fault of the beemer, and so replaced her with a younger and perkier 690 and am now busy gaining experience (largely via paypal) and getting to enjoy the slippy stuff a bit more. I see they have a 'cool wall' on here and was wishing I had a pic of Guzzi in full regalia aboard the GS. So you still blasting around on the 640? One reason I thought less is more is how the 1200 could barely keep up with you on the seal! Just playing with a firmer spring to sharpen up the 690 and have added a few other goodies like it really needs it;)
Cheers
Simon

[.chris]

Have got a pair of rox for sale on trade me, the anti vibe version currently fitted on my 690. They work well but selling to buy a fancy damper set up

No thanks, I have gone back to not using risers. Cheers for the heads-up tho.

[clint640]

Hey Clint, hows your auto electrical career been progressing since the lost weekend ride?

Hi mate! (thanks again for the tow, please don't ever tell anybody I had to get rescued by a GS beemer :nya:) Thankfully that pesky rubbed wire remains the only time the 640 has ever left me stranded in 120 000 km. I've just finished building & installing a custom 7" headlight setup to upgrade from the ptiful stocker on the 640 & have done some tidying of the loom & stripped out some redundant crap.

Good to see you've seen the light & gone orange ;) The 640 gets along ok but the 690 is something else, nicer both on & offroad than the 640. (apart from the seat!) Have fun!

Cheers
Clint

[GPS MAN]

shssssssh don't let my wife hear you call it a toy, I'm not allowed more toys....exercise equipment is ok though :shifty: Will have to get together and set up a bit of a course so you can show me how to ride the little sucker!


I'll keep it quiet...just between us..;)

[Night Falcon]

Have got a pair of rox for sale on trade me, the anti vibe version currently fitted on my 690. They work well but selling to buy a fancy damper set up

spotted those on TM. they look the business, if they don't sell let me know, am looking for some for my trials bike but bit above my meager budget...may be some old fashioned haggling will save the day :whistle:

[NordieBoy]

I like this one...
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[Night Falcon]

I like this one...

great setup he's got there. wish those EVO2 kits were around when I was adventurising mine :drool:

[NordieBoy]

great setup he's got there. wish those EVO2 kits were around when I was adventurising mine :drool:

KTM 690 Zombie Killer...

[Night Falcon]

Went out with Wade and Jimmy today for some light recreational riding on the wee bikes

RR here

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=816412&page=5

[dino3310]

saw this thread on adv, thought it might be of interest to the 690 lads if ya havent seen it already
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=928900

[Night Falcon]

Cheers Dino. Sore the prototype but not the finished product. My mode selector stopped working long time ago for some reason so haven't experienced the wild setting in ages....broken wire I suspect somewhere in the infamous KTM wiring harness.

[thepom]

Just picked up aktm 690 too....awesome bike...lots of bits coming....new exhaust fmf 4 and bashplate just arrived....rack and fuel container on its way as well as small windscreen and a new seat getting upholsterd here in chch,would love to have the underseat switch mounted on the bars but that is an expensive switch so might wait a bit longer....need to change the tank bolts and replace fuel cap and see if I can do something about lowering the seat,oh kouba lowering link ordered today too. Any other mods needed will be welcome.What oil is everyone using now...?

[Crim]

Just picked up aktm 690 too....awesome bike...

well done Kenny - you lucky lucky bastard - keen to have a look will have to catch up on a ride :woohoo: - when I am allowed back on the bike - :facepalm:

[thepom]

No worries...when is your next ride ?....you free for edwards amd malings pass on nov 9th ?

[vegeman]

saw this thread on adv, thought it might be of interest to the 690 lads if ya havent seen it already
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=928900

I thought about these awhile back. As the standard mode, smooths out the power and is less abrupt than the advanced mode but advanced mode is snappier... but I don't know if switching is the answer (don't you have to turn off the bike to load the different map?...ie it's not done while riding, which to me, defeats the purpose...anyway

Lately, I've been riding more and more with the advanced mode and like the power but also wanted to manage the off-idle sharpness...so instead of going for the mapping switch. I just bought the G2 throttle tamer with the 400cam (2 days ago). What this does is give the smoothness over the throttle during the first stages of opening, which in reality is the only time the difference in maps actually matters....so the cam means that bumps and knocks at the lower rev's are far better to control...yet all the power and response is there.

So far, I would say that it works as I expected...

[thepom]

Is that a mechanical or elcrtro gizmo?....easy to fit?

[vegeman]

Is that a mechanical or elcrtro gizmo?....easy to fit?

easy as to fit, and its all mechanical...it's just replacing the throttle tube on your handlebar with a unit that has a different profile. Basically, the standard throttle tube the pulls the cables is a standard circular tube ie 1:1 ratio. The throttle tamer has a flatish section for the first part, and then progressively goes back to standard.

heres a picture from the web (hopefully), if not search in the G2 Throttle tamer. I went for the tamer kit, instead of just the throttle tube, as it comes with different profiles...so if the 400 unit was to soft, I had 300, 200 to select...plus there was always the option of going back to standard throttle at effecitvely 100

http://www.ridergroups.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/G2_Ergonomics_Throttle_Tamer.jpg

[Night Falcon]

Just picked up aktm 690 too....awesome bike...lots of bits coming....new exhaust fmf 4 and bashplate just arrived....rack and fuel container on its way as well as small windscreen and a new seat getting upholsterd here in chch,would love to have the underseat switch mounted on the bars but that is an expensive switch so might wait a bit longer....need to change the tank bolts and replace fuel cap and see if I can do something about lowering the seat,oh kouba lowering link ordered today too. Any other mods needed will be welcome.What oil is everyone using now...?

Keep the oil changes regular and check valve clearances once a year (10,000Klm) and she'll run sweet :wari:

AFC recommend Motorex 10w 60 for the 690 which is what I use, change every 5000 klm


Congratz on the new bike.

[thepom]

That looks good and half the price of the electrical switch...I like the no 1 setting for off road as I.m not that competent off road to use all the power..... no 2 is good for highway riding and using no 3 at the moment but that Iis a bit jerky for around too at low rpms....might be better once i fit the new fmf power exhaust and re mapped....so who usues 10/50 oil or 10/ 60 as per manufacturer?...and where is cheapest to buy the oil in chch and get the ktm filters from?...thinking the filters will be cheapest on line I suppose...

[vegeman]

Keep the oil changes regular and check valve clearances once a year (10,000Klm) and she'll run sweet :wari:

AFC recommend Motorex 10w 60 for the 690 which is what I use, change every 5000 klm


Congratz on the new bike.

Yup...same oil 10w-60, it's recommeded for a reason and its more than just the 10w-60 rating (something to do with the silver nitrate coatings on the bearings or something like that)
I personally haven't waited to 5000k's as I start to worry....4K is my mental limit, and more often if I feel that I have abused the engine and clutch

[Night Falcon]

That looks good and half the price of the electrical switch...I like the no 1 setting for off road as I.m not that competent off road to use all the power..... no 2 is good for highway riding and using no 3 at the moment but that Iis a bit jerky for around too at low rpms....might be better once i fit the new fmf power exhaust and re mapped....so who usues 10/50 oil or 10/ 60 as per manufacturer?...and where is cheapest to buy the oil in chch and get the ktm filters from?...thinking the filters will be cheapest on line I suppose...

filters don't cost much - I get pretty good deals from KTM dealers in the NI so have never gone elsewhere. Someone told me once 10w50 was more for colder climates but I don't really know. AFC's mechanic was pretty adamant on the 60 when I asked about it though. He seemed to know what he was talking about and is pretty experienced working on orange bikes.


Yup....4K is my mental limit, and more often if I feel that I have abused the engine and clutch

abusing 60hp trail bikes can be painful....as you well know :nono:

[thepom]

Yeah read up on the oil specs sonwill use the 10w-60.....will use dealer filters as I.ve heard the prices are ok....

[Night Falcon]

Yeah read up on the oil specs sonwill use the 10w-60.....will use dealer filters as I.ve heard the prices are ok....



save up for one of these as well

[pomgolian]

save up for one of these as well


That incase you throw another chain:yes:

How was hols

[Night Falcon]

That incase you throw another chain:yes:

How was hols

had a great time dodging dead kangaroos on the roads 289039 and bush fires 289040

[richyrich]

if you haven't already,replace your standard paper airfilter with an oiled foam filter before you ride on dusty roads,as paper one passes fine dust through your airbox. if you want to get you 690 running smooth,check out tuneecu and have a play.
what year is your 690?

[MXNUT]

if you haven't already,replace your standard paper airfilter with an oiled foam filter before you ride on dusty roads,as paper one passes fine dust through your airbox. if you want to get you 690 running smooth,check out tuneecu and have a play.
what year is your 690?

Where did you get your foam air filter and cage from.
Was it local or did you have to get from overseas ???

Does the foam filter still allow the top snorkel to be used

[Night Falcon]

if you haven't already,replace your standard paper airfilter with an oiled foam filter before you ride on dusty roads,as paper one passes fine dust through your airbox. if you want to get you 690 running smooth,check out tuneecu and have a play.
what year is your 690?

My 690 is an 09. I replaced my paper filter with a foam unifilter some time back (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/120343-My-KTM-690-Adventure/page24). works with the standard air box so plug and play



Where did you get your foam air filter and cage from.
Was it local or did you have to get from overseas ???

Does the foam filter still allow the top snorkel to be used

bought my unifilter direct from unifilter in Aussie - still use the standard box and snorkel setup

[Tug Boat]

I put a Foam Unifilter from Aussy $ 58.00 nzd still use the standard air snorkel still goes the same.

[richyrich]

dealer,supplied mine with the bike from new. it, a ktm one,but i think it is pretty much the same as the uni one.

[Tug Boat]

www.unifilter.com.au $ 39.50 aussy dollars
These don't have a cage they fit in just like the standard paper filter works OK

[vegeman]

hey,
I've always wanted one, and thought I'd cough up the dollars for me xmas pressie. Clearly, I justify this as "insurance", and a safety feature...as technically they do offer that, so it makes the cost more bearable - oh well that's the story for the wife :-D. I thought it would be good for dusty butt 2014 which should be great.

I bought a complete kit via a rider on advrider forum (RBOTT), he runs an engineering business in the USA somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Very tidy kit, and as part of my order with him, I bought the KTM PDHS bar mounts to complete the ensemble.

It was a perfect fit, and is one of the few kits around that preserve the steering lock functionality.

check it...
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[Night Falcon]

looks great. I keep having this recurring thought that If I had one of those when Larry the lamb ran into my front wheel I might have just run the little sod over instead of hitting the deck - will never know but thinking seriously about adding one to what ever bike I end up with.

[Eddieb]

How are you healing Marty and more importantly ;) what state is the bike in?

[Night Falcon]

How are you healing Marty and more importantly ;) what state is the bike in?

Hi Eddie - Recovery has been a tad slow but the Doctors say I'm going better than expected. Worse thing has been my ribs which are just no fun :wacko: Will be looking seriously at a chest protector as part of my new riding kit.

The insurance company have sent one assessor to look at the bike - we were going to send it to AFC in Palmy for a repair price but they are now sending another bloke to look at it as they don't think it is worth fixing as the frame looks like its bent. I found two dents in the space frame either side of the triple clamps which looks like the forks have slammed into and I reckon the front end has moved 15mm back towards the engine. A real shame as apart from that there's probably only $4K of cosmetic damage.

They have already paid out for my riding gear so am busy looking for new stuff but no hurry - wont be riding for a wee while but will be on the beta as soon as I'm able :yes:

[vegeman]

Eddie bet me to it...as I was wondering how you were getting on. I'd say you'd be better to right it off (the bike that is :-D), as there will always be something not quite right in the future....but the trouble now will be that you have added so many extras that I doubt the insurance guys will pay out on those bits. If they do say it's completely knackered, see if you can buy the bike back off them as a wrecker would do?

Anyway.,,Still sounds like you were a lucky unlucky bastard to hit that sheep, yet get away with it.

V

[Night Falcon]

My plan is to ask the nice insurance man if can swap the aftermarket stuff for the original bits as they are in new condition and the bike was insured as a stock 690 so they aren't losing out....will see how it goes. If the buy back price is low enough I might consider it. Would love another 690 but don't know the budget will stretch that far - the EVO2 kit from rally raid looks good though :drool: :whistle:

[GPS MAN]

Hey Marty

Good to hear your progress is going better than expected!

Just don't jump the gun and get out too soon...seen the results of that too often..

So, guess you still don't have the final word on the 690?

I am in the states until the 23rd of January. After that I can help with whatever you want/need help with concerning the bike.

Take Care and I'll try not to freeze it was -17 C here the other night..Cold , Cold!!!:cold:

Wade

[Night Falcon]

Gidday Wade, that sounds a tad chilly man! Hope you took ya longjohns

In another twist to the 690 tale - AFC phoned yesterday to say the insurers made contact and asked them to collect the bike and check it out :scratch: so they are sending bike trans to pick it up next week...go figure.

The hope is they may be able to repair it including a new frame for under its insurance value. I fully trust AFC can fix it as good as new (which I would be more than happy with) but it will come down to cost at the end of the day - stranger things have happened :corn:

[pomgolian]

Be surprised if they repair it - when i worked at a stealer in the UK it wouldnt take much to write a bike off, here with the price of KTM parts and the biff the bike got it surely must be a write off. If they do decide to repair it get them to confirm they are using all new parts as there is a worrying trend on the car insurance side of using used parts to keep the cost down.

[umopom]

Where did you get your foam air filter and cage from.
Was it local or did you have to get from overseas ???

Does the foam filter still allow the top snorkel to be used

KTM Twins for everything KTM www.KTMtwins.com - speak to Ron and he will sort you out - great guys.

[umopom]

The insurance company have sent one assessor to look at the bike - we were going to send it to AFC in Palmy for a repair price but they are now sending another bloke to look at it as they don't think it is worth fixing as the frame looks like its bent. I found two dents in the space frame either side of the triple clamps which looks like the forks have slammed into and I reckon the front end has moved 15mm back towards the engine. A real shame as apart from that there's probably only $4K of cosmetic damage.

All 690s have dimples in the frame bottom rail 80mms back from the headstock both sides - the steering stops will tell you how much force went into the frame.
JC

[Night Falcon]

Be surprised if they repair it - when i worked at a stealer in the UK it wouldnt take much to write a bike off, here with the price of KTM parts and the biff the bike got it surely must be a write off. If they do decide to repair it get them to confirm they are using all new parts as there is a worrying trend on the car insurance side of using used parts to keep the cost down.

I know the guys at AFC pretty well and trust they will take care of me. I don't imagine there will be that many 690's around for parts scavenging in anycase. They told me they never take chances with frames on motorbikes when assessing them for insurance as the risk is too great. Any doubt they price a new frame which in most cases means a new bike. I'm not holding my breath it will be repaired - but not totally discounting it either.



All 690s have dimples in the frame bottom rail 80mms back from the headstock both sides - the steering stops will tell you how much force went into the frame.
JC

we suspected that but one dent is 3 times the size of other and has a silver vertical line through the middle of it so certainly looks like a triple clamp has hit it. The stops look ok though so who knows?

The front guard has been pushed up against the radiator shroud and the rally fairing is sitting 25mm out of line with the tank so either the tank has moved or it has. There are no cracks or scratches in the fairing so it looks like it has not be wacked - unlike the safari tank which has a lot of deep road-rashing. Once its in pieces it should be easy check. I would have stripped it myself by now to measure it but cant work one handed darn it :baby:

[Night Falcon]

visited the accident scene for the first time today. Didn't jog my memory of the crash but man O man I couldn't believe the length of first impact to where I was found under the bike...easily 100m. Had a mate with me who saw it the day after the crash and said the sheep gizzards were splattered on the road for the full 100m. The cops marked both ends with paint which is still on the road.

We found some broken bits of the helmet and some bits from the gopro about 30m from where I ended up so our guess is I must have been upright with the sheep stuck between the engine and front wheel for 70 odd meters then I hit the deck and slid for another 30m. The sheep was found in two halves and looks to have been sawn in 2 by the front tire (MT21)- surreal feeling looking at the site I have to say!

[R650R]

surreal feeling looking at the site I have to say!

Yep know that feeling, takes awhile but eventually it fades mostly. Saw couple of marks on road when passing other week but not much else as didn't stop there.

[vegeman]

visited the accident scene for the first time today. Didn't jog my memory of the crash but man O man I couldn't believe the length of first impact to where I was found under the bike...easily 100m. Had a mate with me who saw it the day after the crash and said the sheep gizzards were splattered on the road for the full 100m. The cops marked both ends with paint which is still on the road.

We found some broken bits of the helmet and some bits from the gopro about 30m from where I ended up so our guess is I must have been upright with the sheep stuck between the engine and front wheel for 70 odd meters then I hit the deck and slid for another 30m. The sheep was found in two halves and looks to have been sawn in 2 by the front tire (MT21)- surreal feeling looking at the site I have to say!

just goes to show how important good gear is to have on the body...nobody really wants to find out how good, but am pleased that you did better than the sheep. You mention in a previous post about body armour, and this was one of the reasons why I bought the Klim badlands pro jacket. It is one of the few around that comes with all the armour in it i.e. elbows, shoulders, back and chest. Most jackets have shoulder and elbow, then the next step up, have quality back protecters..but it seems that very few have the chest plate. I opted to get one that has it in all the time, as this way it ensures that you have it with you and all times.

V

[Night Falcon]

just goes to show how important good gear is to have on the body...nobody really wants to find out how good, but am pleased that you did better than the sheep. You mention in a previous post about body armour, and this was one of the reasons why I bought the Klim badlands pro jacket. It is one of the few around that comes with all the armour in it i.e. elbows, shoulders, back and chest. Most jackets have shoulder and elbow, then the next step up, have quality back protecters..but it seems that very few have the chest plate. I opted to get one that has it in all the time, as this way it ensures that you have it with you and all times.

V

did ya buy the jacket locally or from overseas?

[vegeman]

did ya buy the jacket locally or from overseas?

I happened to be San Fran awhile back so I visited KTM Twins, and had them already buy one in for me, so I carried that back as luggage. I then purchased online from them the matching pants, and got that shipped.

The jacket is pretty darn good. The pants, are probably too big for me, as I slip around inside them...but I jsut realised that they don't have any decent belt/waist setup so I just ordered the Klim suspenders to keep them up.

Expensive stuff though but about the same as all the top end Alpine stars...ie $1200 JAcket, $800 pants. In saying that, tramping/hiking goretex jackets can be $800 anyway...so it's just the price.

[thepom]

My brake lever took a blow crossing a ford last week and bent it almost into the casing...made of chocolate it is...any sort of protection available or home made fix to protect it a bit better?...maybe an extension on my bash plate maybe?...

[vegeman]

My brake lever took a blow crossing a ford last week and bent it almost into the casing...made of chocolate it is...any sort of protection available or home made fix to protect it a bit better?...maybe an extension on my bash plate maybe?...

I was confused for a sec regarding the brake lever as I was thinking it was your front lever, but the reference to your bash plate infers rear brake pedal -yes?. I've also noodled the brake pedal on a adventure ride and had to use small vice grips for the remaining trip...which actually worked pretty well compared to no lever/brake.

As an option, I considered getting one of the rally raid billet replacements but the cheap option was to make a 'brake snake' which is a simple bit of wire tying the pedal to the bash plate. This means that any load on the pedal gets transferred to the wire/bashplate. They work real good.

do a google search for images, brake snake 690...and you will see wha they are. I made my one...

[thepom]

Hi vegeman...yeah looked at tgem and could make one ar work but the problem was it bent inwards...I ll have a.look on the net and see what I can find. ...awesome bike known issues and not cheap to fix.....still need a seat mod for comfort cos an hour in the saddle and it feels like the first night in prison ....

[vegeman]

awesome bike known issues and not cheap to fix.....still need a seat mod for comfort cos an hour in the saddle and it feels like the first night in prison ....

For the seat, I bought a KTM gel set...but sheesh...its still quite thin - I actually thought I had bought the wrong on but am stuck with it. I've done 300K rides on that seat so its fine.

BUT,,,For truly long boring rides on the tarmac, I use one of the Airhawk seat custions that I simply clip on when required...and then once into the real ride, I take it off due to it being inflatable etc

[Night Falcon]

Rally Raid makes a billet rear break leaver for the 690 which is a big improvement on the stock jobby but costs 144 quid so it aint a cheap option.

http://www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/KTM-690-Enduro-R-SMC/Billet-Parts

[thepom]

Yeah the billet brake pedal is expensive so I ll leave that for now but will buy the fuel filler billet to stop shit getting into the tank...there are touratech engine guards that cover the brake lever and the side casing ...not too dear either...

[Night Falcon]

Bike movers came and collected the 690 this morning. Not sure if I'll ever see it again <_<

[pomgolian]

Trust you got all your farkles off it as im guessing its gone to wrecker heaven - wonder what you could buy it back from the insurance co for :yes:

[Night Falcon]

Trust you got all your farkles off it as im guessing its gone to wrecker heaven - wonder what you could buy it back from the insurance co for :yes:

It wont get to palmy until Friday so it will be next week before I hear the verdict I expect. The transporter driver said in his experience if the frame is bent the insurance company will just write it off....he was impressed by the road rash on the safari tank though :facepalm:

[GPS MAN]

My thoughts are after seeing the damage..is they will write it off..

But, stranger things have happened...

Still in Alabama..heading to Denver, Colorado tomorrow...It's going to be cold:cold:

How is the healing process progressing?

[Night Falcon]

My thoughts are after seeing the damage..is they will write it off..

But, stranger things have happened...

Still in Alabama..heading to Denver, Colorado tomorrow...It's going to be cold:cold:

How is the healing process progressing?

Always thought it would be cool to visit the States :laugh:

healing is progressing. I'm allowed back to work for 2hrs a day but not allowed to drive which is a pain. did I mention that if you can ever avoid it, don't break your ribs !

[thepom]

Done mine several l times
..so not funny...

[vegeman]

Bike movers came and collected the 690 this morning. Not sure if I'll ever see it again <_<

:weep:

After all you have done for it, I feel your loss....the question is though...what will you get next?

[GPS MAN]

What would any of us get next?:wacko:

[Night Falcon]

:weep:

After all you have done for it, I feel your loss....the question is though...what will you get next?


If I listen to the 9 out of 10 comments I seem to be getting from anyone and everyone, I'll never own, ride, look at or sit on any motorcycle of any sort ever again. It maybe fortunate for me that I have this condition where as my wife points out from time to time..."You never listen", still it all starts to wear a little thin after a while. I don't know why but lots of people are really viscous about motorcycling and have no problems letting you know how they feel about them despite the fact you've just had a major crash which was no fault of your own. I pointed out to one chap that using his logic he should hand in his drivers licence and take a bus as there are loads more people hurt in car crashes than on bikes but that didn't go down too well.

I still think the 690 is the best platform for an adventure bike available so I'm stubbornly holding out that it will be fixed.

[vegeman]

If I listen to the 9 out of 10 comments I seem to be getting from anyone and everyone, I'll never own, ride, look at or sit on any motorcycle of any sort ever again. ..

I still think the 690 is the best platform for an adventure bike available so I'm stubbornly holding out that it will be fixed.

yeah...it is annoying but fuck em, I don't care that it's dangerous...which it is...but so is life in general.

I also agree that the 690 is the best platform...it really can do everything, and all of it pretty well. I do sometimes think about the new WR450's...road legal, still fast enough, lighter for harder core adventures/trail rides....but I still choose 690!! and the new 690 is truly 690....so maybe get the new one....

[Night Falcon]

yeah...it is annoying but fuck em, I don't care that it's dangerous...which it is...but so is life in general.

I also agree that the 690 is the best platform...it really can do everything, and all of it pretty well. I do sometimes think about the new WR450's...road legal, still fast enough, lighter for harder core adventures/trail rides....but I still choose 690!! and the new 690 is truly 690....so maybe get the new one....

The WR450 is an awesome bike and I have thought long and hard about them but theres too much to do to them to make them comfy for adv riding and only 5 gears. If I was going to go smaller I'd probably look at a 530 EXC or maybe go cheap and do up a DRZ4hundy. If the CCM 450 adventure was available in NZ I think I'd have one in the garage already.

[thepom]

I ve had loads of accidents too...mostly not my fault...I just laugh in peoples faces that Mock me...when its your time up then its your time up...till then look for the new 690 as its still the best adv bike out there. ....apart from the known faults.....

[JimmyC]

Apologies if this has been posted somewhere already but I just stumbled across this kit for the 690 - http://www.ktmbasel.ch/defy-series-kit/ktm-basel-690-quest-the-ultimate-ultralight-travel-bike.html#

32ltrs in 3 tanks for an 800km range... crazy stuff, crazy price, but damn that's a good looking machine and still very light.

[vegeman]

Apologies if this has been posted somewhere already but I just stumbled across this kit for the 690 - http://www.ktmbasel.ch/defy-series-kit/ktm-basel-690-quest-the-ultimate-ultralight-travel-bike.html#

32ltrs in 3 tanks for an 800km range... crazy stuff, crazy price, but damn that's a good looking machine and still very light.

yeah...it sure looks clean and tidy...massive range, and would be the right option if travelling around the world. For us in NZ, eeking out 300K's seems to the number before really needing to find fuel. Dusty butt in a few weeks and is seems 290K is the max distance...so fueling options is top of mind at the moment

I can't work out what the currency conversion would be but 5000 somethings sounds expensive

[Box'a'bits]

Around NZD 7.9k. Spendy

[Crim]

Around NZD 7.9k. Spendy

very spendy but looking pretty good I reckon

[Eddieb]

Around NZD 7.9k. Spendy

But then what have you spent on Gus's tank, headlight, Exhaust headers, bolts, fasteners etc etc. The real number not what you tell Mandy, and you are getting a lot more in that kit. If $7.9k is accurate I don't think it's that bad a deal.

[JimmyC]

By the time you landed one here it would probably be closer to $10k with freight and GST. Still, add in a brand new 690, you're looking circa $25k, but that would kick the butt of most similar options in that price bracket (F800GS\A types). Huge weight savings for starters.

[vegeman]

On re-reading the parts that you get for the full kit...it seems that they have completely new rear fuel cell being 16l as opposed to 12 with standard. so getting 4 extra litres without any major impact to the bike might be a good idea. Rally Raid's bolt on rear tank with adapters and stuff works out to be around $700 but this version seems better.

[clint640]

On re-reading the parts that you get for the full kit...it seems that they have completely new rear fuel cell being 16l as opposed to 12 with standard. so getting 4 extra litres without any major impact to the bike might be a good idea. .

Dunno about that. That low slung & exposed exhaust looks like shit to me. Nylon tanks are good though, the 640 has that & it's bloody tough. As noted, way more gas than is needed for NZ.

I quite like the new rallye raid EVO2 kits, if (when) I had a 690 I'd go that way, & probably make up a tool kit module to take the place of one of the tanks for everyday use in NZ. 300k range is all ya need really.

Cheers
Clint

[Night Falcon]

If I ever own another 690 the evo 2 tanks would probably be the way I'd go although I have some reservations as to their crashability compared to the safari.....they certainly look way cooler though

[bart]

That's a lot of $ just to look cool and have a bit more range (and make it heavy). You could put another bike in the shed for that. I'd be wanting at least another cylinder and 20 extra horsepower for that money. :scooter:

But that's just me, I'm tight...

[Night Falcon]

That's a lot of $ just to look cool and have a bit more range (and make it heavy). You could put another bike in the shed for that. I'd be wanting at least another cylinder and 20 extra horsepower for that money. :scooter:

But that's just me, I'm tight...

ya don't need anymore HP for the 690, it has enough power to do a reasonably good job of getting you into trouble as it is :facepalm:

[bart]

ya don't need anymore HP for the 690, it has enough power to do a reasonably good job of getting you into trouble as it is :facepalm:
You can NEVER have too much horsepower. :yes:

[Box'a'bits]

Wrong

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wKFQaZqKABk/Uvx_m3OfXfI/AAAAAAAAQCQ/kv3O-RlXSY0/s640/IMG_0152-001.jpg

[bart]

You don’t have to use the whole lot, all at once...

[10bikekid]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/49621-Adventure-bikes-on-Trade-Me?p=1130724178#post1130724178

Originally Posted by Night Falcon
Aint made too much progress on a new bike yet cos I'm still unable to test ride anything This week however I've narrowed the selection down to this http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-734444352.htm

or this... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-687285191.htm

this lights my fire though....a lot! http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-729658033.htm

As you may have guessed, I have some orange issues, but then this is a nice option? http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-731742831.htm

so yeah not really making much progress on a decision )

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10bikekid

Well my gosh you have opened up a can of Orange and Red worms, don't envy you at all :crazy:

I'm gunna say it will have to be horses for courses, what are you really going use your new stead for the most :scratch:

Brief thoughts

690 well you know but said by many to be best al round ADV bike made

500, just plain cool, 170kph dirt bike with lights :devil2:

Freeeride, steedy as she goes anywhere but not very fast or for long

Husky, good Price, heavier than the rest but if that doesn't matter to much. bonzer

Might bump this into the right place for the long term report

[Oscar]

Wrong



As my first girlfriend told me - it's not how much you have, it's what you do with it.

http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Gentlemans-Adventure-2010/i-zD2CcJr/0/M/P1010129-M.jpg

[10bikekid]

what I like about Aventure riding is its a challenge, I'm a little over a motocross bike that can go anywhere easily <_<

Bike choice for me comes down to how much of a challenge I can stand for the condition I plan to ride in :shit:

<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/Pictures016.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/Pictures016.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Pictures016.jpg"/></a>

[Night Falcon]

what I like about Adventure riding is its a challenge, I'm a little over a motocross bike that can go anywhere easily <_<

I've managed to challenge myself on every bike I've owned. :blink: and I've never owned a bike that I can go anywhere easily on - but I think that says more about my limitations as a rider than any limitations the bike has. <_<

Daydreaming about my next bike does however relieve the boredom of waiting for my next doctors, orthopaedic surgeons, physio, concussion clinic and ACC appointments so is quite therapeutic - but I don't tell any of them that cos my head has had all the bashing it can handle for now :no:

One problem I have with choosing a bike is I've been too spoilt with the handling and power of the 690, lets call it the 690 curse. There are loads of very capable older bikes out there for way cheaper but I'm a bit anxious that I might get frustrated with them soon after purchase - like my trusty old DR. Great bike but ummm well errr you know.

The search continues........

[Box'a'bits]

Get an old airhead. Then you can spend all of your money & what should be riding time planning your next set of ugrades. :crazy:. Oh, & it helps with the injury count too...

[Night Falcon]

having 690 withdrawal issues today, sure do miss squirting around on it :weep:


http://youtu.be/QRz7zMVPfbM

[vegeman]

Hey Marty, good to see that you are still dreaming/wishing/pining for the 690.

I to think about the next bike, and interestingly though, also thought the exc500...as its the lighter, capable version of the 690 but...it's still not the complete package of the 690 ie oil range, tank range, 12V power, headlight power, subframe for carrying shit. The only answer is both!...the 690, when we you really need to go on an adventure...and the 500 for when you need a dual sport bike with lights.

Festy finally traded the Aprilia 550 in, while a very cool machine, couldn't beat my 690...and came with more issues that it was worth, so he went back to the new WR450. If I never had had a 690, I would have bought the WR, clearly they are very capable dirt bike, and good enough on the road to qualify for an adventure machine. Lighter is always good, and WR have a lot going for them. Yet, we swapped bikes for a while, and unless I was on a hard core single track, I'd rather ride my 690.

And speaking of riding the 690 on a real adventure...I might go for the full bling of my 690 and put the rally raid kit on it because I've just got approval from the wife to ride the Transamerica Trail next year, and am starting to work through the logistics for that adventure. I really want to ride my bike with the RR kit on, as I think it will be the ideal machine for the 8000k adventure....but have to work through the hassle of ship vs buy....and then buying has all the problems that you have of what to get!!!...hmmm

[Night Falcon]

The TAT is on my bucket list to do one day, I've even got the tee shirt and a sticker for my next bike :cool: If I win lotto and get over my on going concussion symptoms (shout out to Kieran Read!) before ya go I'd gladly tag along as a wing man ;)

Wrote to CCM about importing the GP450 adventure and got a reply today. They said they have no dealers in NZ but have had several enquiries about it. They would be happy to export a bike to me so will explore the costs for this, its an awesome package. I think it may work out to be too expensive but will be interesting exercise in any case.

http://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/gp450.asp#.U5YqiGuKBMs

[Underground]

The TAT is on my bucket list to do one day, I've even got the tee shirt and a sticker for my next bike :cool: If I win lotto and get over my on going concussion symptoms (shout out to Kieran Read!) before ya go I'd gladly tag along as a wing man ;)

Wrote to CCM about importing the GP450 adventure and got a reply today. They said they have no dealers in NZ but have had several enquiries about it. They would be happy to export a bike to me so will explore the costs for this, its an awesome package. I think it may work out to be too expensive but will be interesting exercise in any case.

http://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/gp450.asp#.U5YqiGuKBMs

Get lots of them..... I think we all need one of these :yes:

[vegeman]

They would be happy to export a bike to me so will explore the costs for this, its an awesome package. I think it may work out to be too expensive but will be interesting exercise in any case.

http://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/gp450.asp#.U5YqiGuKBMs

Thanks, yes TAT is a must. As part of the planning...I'm currently talking ol Festy into coming along as he bypassed the family/kids thing so only needs to convince himself, he has the bucks and potentially the time. I'm hoping he can, but otherwise...I'll plan for a solo, but am sure I'll find others.

Those bikes absoltuely look interesting, I like that you can get a plug in power upgrade kit to raise it from 40hp to 50hp, 18l, and other bits optimised for adventuring. I personally would have to ride and see one before forking out GBP$8000 plus frieght and stuff. IF you think about it though...buying a 690 or 500 exc would still require several thousand more to make adventure worthy...so maybe a good option.

I wonder if the cut you a deal to get a model down here as a promo/demo?

[cold comfort]

I can see why you miss your 690. Recently replaced my 450 with an 08 690. Absolutely love it. Much better fit for a tall chap like me (tho needs bar risers) and comfy on the road sections too. My Tiger will now be relegated unless I'm two up.

[Night Falcon]

I can see why you miss your 690. Recently replaced my 450 with an 08 690. Absolutely love it. Much better fit for a tall chap like me (tho needs bar risers) and comfy on the road sections too. My Tiger will now be relegated unless I'm two up.

Congratz on the new purchase CC. The 690 really is as close to a do it all bike as you can get IMHO and that engine is simply the business! I fitted 30mm risers on mine and it was perfect for me (I'm 6' 1&1/2"), and there's plenty of slack in the cables probably even for 2inch risers. you'll have a blast on it, just keep the oil changes regular (5K) and check the valves once a year and she'll just keep chugging along!

[vegeman]

I recently replaced my rox anti-vibe risers (which I liked) with a different riser setup, due to installing a scott steering damper. I have the risers sitting in my spare parts area...so if you were thinking of going that way, I don't mind selling them at a huge profit, with GST, Duty, freight, cleaning fee's, packaging, walking time to post office, coffee costs and incidentals...

[thepom]

Anyone know who can re map a 690 .?.....

[Night Falcon]

Anyone know who can re map a 690 .?.....

KTM dealers carry the Acro map so should be able to change the stock one no problem - Patterson O'Conner did mine free of charge. Some guys have made there own but you need to have a few clues to do that (more than I've got :wacko:)

This thread on ADVRider.com was pretty informative on the subject.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=931664

[vegeman]

Anyone know who can re map a 690 .?.....

I had the guys at TSS red baron here in lower hutt change the maps when I put my leo vince muffler on (akro map). I don't think that its a particular hard job, as I personally wanted to have a shop to change the mapping just in case something got truly cocked up...as then it would be there problem to fix, but that was years ago and I'm getting a little braver.

Since then, I've bothered to buy a data interface cable and installed Tuneboy on my small PC to learn a little about the maps (there is two files/maps for a remap). What was good was that I could absolutely confirm that the correct maps were there (so the shop did it right)...and it also gave me access to the error logs etc stored in the bike. having this simple access to the bikes brains means I'll know that I can check the status of the machine (kinda cool...and is all part of the TAT planning).

I'm not brave enough yet though to swap them for anything else as they are the right ones, but just letting you know this is another avenue for the modaholics.

What are you needing done specifically?

[Gremlin]

I'm not brave enough yet though to swap them for anything else as they are the right ones, but just letting you know this is another avenue for the modaholics.

Just an FYI, I remembered I had issues with Tuneboy and my KTM... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/104181-KTM-and-Tuneboy-Take-Care

Just a heads up, no idea if it will be relevant for you.

[cold comfort]

Congratz on the new purchase CC. The 690 really is as close to a do it all bike as you can get IMHO and that engine is simply the business! I fitted 30mm risers on mine and it was perfect for me (I'm 6' 1&1/2"), and there's plenty of slack in the cables probably even for 2inch risers. you'll have a blast on it, just keep the oil changes regular (5K) and check the valves once a year and she'll just keep chugging along!

Cheers. Shes definitely a keeper. Ill keep up the TLC for sure!


I recently replaced my rox anti-vibe risers (which I liked) with a different riser setup, due to installing a scott steering damper. I have the risers sitting in my spare parts area...so if you were thinking of going that way, I don't mind selling them at a huge profit, with GST, Duty, freight, cleaning fee's, packaging, walking time to post office, coffee costs and incidentals...

Haha. Name your extortionate price and I just may cancel my order with my local shop. Send me a PM

[thepom]

Had it re mapped to the akro map and it ran like shit.....need someone who knows how to remap it so it runs good....had it looked at here in town but didn't work out...cant go into detail as it is only my side of the story you will hear so I ll try and find someone else...

[Night Falcon]

Had it re mapped to the akro map and it ran like shit.....need someone who knows how to remap it so it runs good....had it looked at here in town but didn't work out...cant go into detail as it is only my side of the story you will hear so I ll try and find someone else...

Hummm something sounds a little suspect a remap should make it run better and they are dead easy to do if you know what your doing. Assuming the OEM muffler has been replaced and both acro maps installed (there are 2 apparently) and the 15min reset has been done there should be no problem. Has anything else been done on the bike i.e. air filter changed, engine de-smogged?

If the engine was working fine prior to the remap with the stock muffler replaced and not afterwards then my money is on an incorrectly installed or incorrect map - it happens. Anyone with the right software and correct maps and who knows what they're doing can remap a 690...lots have. Good luck getting it sorted.

[thepom]

Yeah...it has a foam filter instead of the paper filter but kept the snorkel and just changed the exhaust....so they remap it with the akro and its no good....I take it back and a day later get a call from the shop asking what I wanted doing-...told them I needed the original map put back in as it was running fine before the remap. -pick it up and its still running crap. Pop back in straight to the mechanic who said he did,nt do it so and so did and I,m sure he would have put both maps in...?.....I said I,d bring it back again but could,nt be arsed dealing with guy in the shop again so will try somewhere else....so who knows a good remap man ?

[Night Falcon]

I'm sticking with incorrect map install based on this:

Because of the setup with two ECUs the 'mapping' or 'fuel map' for a 690 also consists of two parts/files. A map (file) for the fuelling: ....FIMap.hex and a file for the throttle: ....EPMap.hex. This has led to problems and confusion with both dealers and owners. The two parts of a fuel map belong together and are NOT interchangeable with other fuel maps. When updating or changing the fuel map it is critical that both files are downloaded to the bikes' ECUs.

· EPT map: Determines the amount of throttle body opening relative to handlebar throttle input. Adjustment of this fly-by-wire throttle permits dramatic changes in response of the engine to throttle input. This system is what causes a lot of the twitchiness in the throttle.
· FI map: Determines the amount of fuel delivered depending on engine load, RPM and throttle body input. This map may utilize the oxygen sensor or the SAI (secondary air intake) but these can be selected OFF.

You could try the 15min idle reset which has to be done when remapping. Start the bike from cold and leave it to idle for 15mins -DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE AT ALL or you have to start again - could be this simple?

[thepom]

Yeah tried the throttle reset and no difference.....I ve put the original exhaust back on and still runs shit.....think they left half the map out...paid 80 bucks too......

[richyrich]

get the cable ( or make it like i did ) and download the tuneecu programme and hook it up .
the good thing is you can see what maps you have and check and adjust tps etp , test injector and so on,also check what the dealer has fucked up.
adv has a good thread on tuneecu with all you need to know.
i have played with mine quite bit and my 690 runs like a champ with no jerky throttle or hanging idle and now fuels just like my 450:clap:
and if you stuff things up,you just reload the standard map or you're a few clicks of the mouse from fixing it and also
you get a better understanding of how things work

[NordieBoy]

Battery in good condition?
On some Triumph's, we had problems doing dyno runs/re-mapping until a battery booster was added. Even though there was enough juice to start the bike.

[thepom]

yeah battery in good condition and there is no way I am computer savvy to down load and mess around with remapping...I ll stick to my aeroplanes thanks lol....hey richy-maybe I ll ride down to your place and you can have a look....

[Night Falcon]

Battery in good condition?
On some Triumph's, we had problems doing dyno runs/re-mapping until a battery booster was added. Even though there was enough juice to start the bike.

Yup this is correct, the battery has to be fully charged or the download won't work. If the charge drops during the download it will also fail. The dealer should know this and check the battery which would be standard operating procedure for someone who allegedly knows what they are doing?

[umopom]

Have a look at the link below - it explains things in a reasonably understandable way. On my second 690 and all the advice I have been given is run the stock map - I have a Leo Vince muffler and Unifilter foam air filter and the stock mapping has been good on both bikes. Advice I have been given is ensure that there is a reasonable amount of back pressure - wadding or a baffle disc - as the engine needs back pressure to ensure that it doesn't run too lean.
Hope you get it sorted Kenny
Cheers
John

http://690enduro.createaforum.com/airbox-pipes-and-programmers/690-enduro-efi-idiot's-guide-link-(part-i)/msg288/#msg288

[.chris]

I can confrim the stock maps work fine with aftermarket exhaust. I have the leo vince and stock maps and have had no problems.

[Night Falcon]

bizarre is all I can say? So many people have remapped with zero problems with every conceivable muffler fitted. My FMF powercore 4 had no issues and ran a lot better after the remap, smoother throttle response but did gulp slightly more fuel. why would ktm make and fit alternative maps if they don't meet their specifications for back pressure? it doesn't seem plausible. I'm sure you'll get it sorted though, persistence always pays off in the end.

[Night Falcon]

Am looking at all options for my next bike and am very curious about the Husky TR650 Terra (mainly because the price is quite appealing) but don't know much about them. Can anybody out there give me some feedback on it - good, bad or indifferent?

I understand the fuel range is in the vicinity of 300-320k's, is this correct?

What's the power delivery like?

DIY servicing - valve checks?

How comfy is the seat? Prefer it didn't have the cutaway but that can be fixed with a seat concepts.

Suspension seems to be and issue, mainly with the front forks which are non adjustable and quite soft?

[Waihou Thumper]

Am looking at all options for my next bike and am very curious about the Husky TR650 Terra (mainly because the price is quite appealing) but don't know much about them. Can anybody out there give me some feedback on it - good, bad or indifferent?

I understand the fuel range is in the vicinity of 300-320k's, is this correct?

What's the power delivery like?

DIY servicing - valve checks?

How comfy is the seat? Prefer it didn't have the cutaway but that can be fixed with a seat concepts.

Suspension seems to be and issue, mainly with the front forks which are non adjustable and quite soft?

I had a look at them, the dealer swore by it...
BUT, missing some of the esssential elements...
For a entry level dual purpose, awesome....
For someone coming off a 690 (literally and figuratively) I think you would be disappointed...
Make up your own mind mate, there is a choice out there...
Something about them makes me fell like they are trying but not quite there..
TE610 was the best....

[Night Falcon]

BUT, missing some of the esssential elements...assume ya mean torque?

For someone coming off a 690 (literally and figuratively) LOL....thanks for that mate, I just spilt my coffee over me laptop :laugh:



Cheers - If it gets past the initial screening I might have to get a trusted merkin test pilot to take one for a pre-purchase ride report as I wont be riding anything bigger than my trials bike for a while yet; the problem is I've seen so many cool bikes I thought would be great but they all sold while I was procrastinating....I've got cabin fever pretty bad at the moment. :brick:

Am thinking due to my crash souvenirs it might be wise to look at a slightly more sedate bike? - was even considering a KLR a while back but realise now that was down to the head knock :rolleyes:

[marks]

Am thinking due to my crash souvenirs it might be wise to look at a slightly more sedate bike? - was even considering a KLR a while back but realise now that was down to the head knock :rolleyes:

on behalf of the klr community

fuck you too! :yes:

[Eddieb]

Am looking at all options for my next bike and am very curious about the Husky TR650 Terra (mainly because the price is quite appealing) but don't know much about them. Can anybody out there give me some feedback on it - good, bad or indifferent?

I understand the fuel range is in the vicinity of 300-320k's, is this correct?

What's the power delivery like?

DIY servicing - valve checks?

How comfy is the seat? Prefer it didn't have the cutaway but that can be fixed with a seat concepts.

Suspension seems to be and issue, mainly with the front forks which are non adjustable and quite soft?

There's a guy on my site/facebook group that has one, he raves about it. There's a few handy mods that can be don apparently

[vegeman]

Husky 650 - heavier, slower, comfier - had also thought about them but they would just be nice... Not exciting as the 690 so you get annoyed as everything will be less than what you had. Get the 690, or project build ktm500 or wr450...now that you are older and more busted than before perhaps lighter would be good... Yet still powerful? That's where I'm going Once the 690 gets done

[Night Falcon]

There's a guy on my site/facebook group that has one, he raves about it. There's a few handy mods that can be don apparently

Thanks Eddie, I'm not on FB but would like to chat with him....would he mind me emailing him if you PM his address?


Husky 650 - heavier, slower, comfier - had also thought about them but they would just be nice... Not exciting as the 690 so you get annoyed as everything will be less than what you had. Get the 690, or project build ktm500 or wr450...now that you are older and more busted than before perhaps lighter would be good... Yet still powerful? That's where I'm going Once the 690 gets done

I don't know modding an EXC500 for adventure use is really a good idea but I have come VERY close to trying it. Lack of a cush drive, the seat, fuel tank, wind protection, load carrying need to be sorted - seems an expensive journey to make an 50/50 DS bike. The 690 was awesome but not prepared to spend that $$$$ again.

A softer dual sport and a 250 Freeride might be a good mix? :cool:

[vegeman]

For instance, TAT ride or perhaps rides greater than 2000k's or when ave speed is more on the higher side...then big bore singles ie 690. For shorter hops and where adventure riding is more on the single trackish type then the 450/500 platform.

I just watched the motonomad aussie boys ride their ktm500 from Austria to Egypt being 7000k's and they took the harder routes and the pushed the service intervals way up.

Just thinking about doing some different after the 690...don't know if I could go to comfy tho and it's all assuming there is an after 690, (might just get need to get both). Festy's done it right...he's bought a WR450, YZ450, YZ250, Husky Sm650, KTM360 2-stroke, triumph Daytona and a ZX10 for kicks...there maybe more but that's what you can do when you have money, and a bachelors life

[Tazz]

You need to build one of these by the looks :blip:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=562633


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u310/sanjoh2002/DSCF4924.jpg

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=989845


http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/mtothef/ninja/C9F3E9E4-BBAD-4C52-BCDE-F69E4E3D40BC.jpg

[Night Falcon]

I know a bloke in Palmyvagas that's building a BMW version of that, pretty amazing!

[10bikekid]

You need to build one of these by the looks :blip:



The top one not for looks (would be hiding that around the back)<_<

Bottom one, o yer muma :eek:

[Eddieb]

I know a bloke in Palmyvagas that's building a BMW version of that, pretty amazing!

Is that Gerard, or someone else?

[Night Falcon]

Is that Gerard, or someone else?

yep he's been building it for quite a while

[GSers]

yep he's been building it for quite a while

You know how it is good things take time. Just about finished making a reservoir to fit the fuel pump outside the tank. Time to start the plumbing throttle cables wiring and try firing it up. All a little fiddly especially making fittings and such from billet material. But still enjoying every little milestone. :cool::cool::cool:

GSers

PS how you going up there Marty

[Night Falcon]

You know how it is good things take time. Just about finished making a reservoir to fit the fuel pump outside the tank. Time to start the plumbing throttle cables wiring and try firing it up. All a little fiddly especially making fittings and such from billet material. But still enjoying every little milestone. :cool::cool::cool:

GSers

PS how you going up there Marty

Mate, it will be a momentous occasion when ya get to crank her up! You've put in some hours on it and it looks so professional - like ya know what ya doing even ;)

I'm still mending. Going to see a neurologist next month so hopefully sort out the headaches, but there's never been much to look at in my main frame - he will likely find the wheel is spinning but the hamster has scarpered.....maybe the SD card from my Gopro is lodged in there some where, never did find it?

[Eddieb]

You know how it is good things take time. Just about finished making a reservoir to fit the fuel pump outside the tank. Time to start the plumbing throttle cables wiring and try firing it up. All a little fiddly especially making fittings and such from billet material. But still enjoying every little milestone. :cool::cool::cool:

GSers

PS how you going up there Marty

About time we had another picture

[GSers]

About time we had another picture

Thread Hijack Hi Eddie not that much has changed in the big picture but little things that have to work are taking shape inside

See you out there again soon

GSers