Honda's new bucket [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

Yow Ling

17th March 2010, 17:32

All road based

Looks fuel injected , and of 150 cc ( I think)

Would it be eligible?

Stephen

Of course its eligible, meets all the criteria in the rules. If you can afford one good luck to you. Would be great if there were 20 on the grid. Buckets is looking better all the time !

woodyracer

17th March 2010, 17:56

i like parts of it, but that fornt end looks gay, also they sohudl of put a cbr125r motor in it!

Buckets4Me

17th March 2010, 19:57

Of course its eligible, meets all the criteria in the rules. If you can afford one good luck to you. Would be great if there were 20 on the grid. Buckets is looking better all the time !

I'm not sure the road legal part is right
it has to be non competitive

if I used my rs125 powered nsr would that be ok ????

I would sleve it down to a 100cc

that is a picture of a honda 4 stroke race bike
just look at it no lights and the word racing on it :)

you could pull that 125 honda 4 stroke out and slap it in
or put an FXR engine in there

R6_kid

17th March 2010, 20:03

http://www.2wheelsindia.com/2008/03/hondas-new-125-cc-cbf-stunner-new-tv.html

Bren_chch

17th March 2010, 20:11

woah thats cool!!! :D

mmmmmmm

Yow Ling

17th March 2010, 20:16

I'm not sure the road legal part is right
it has to be non competitive

if I used my rs125 powered nsr would that be ok ????

I would sleve it down to a 100cc

that is a picture of a honda 4 stroke race bike
just look at it no lights and the word racing on it :)

you could pull that 125 honda 4 stroke out and slap it in
or put an FXR engine in there

If all the buckets were non competitive nobody would ever win, but you right about the road legal thats not a requirment.

If your RS125 is an Aprilia its ok if its a honda its not

The rules are crystal clear

Buckets4Me

17th March 2010, 20:21

Concept CBF Racing shown @ AutoExpo 2008

Of course its eligible, meets all the criteria in the rules. If you can afford one good luck to you. Would be great if there were 20 on the grid. Buckets is looking better all the time !

so how come I'm confused and you arn't

or am I just a smart ass and you didn't know it was a Concept race bike ???

Skunk

17th March 2010, 20:23

All road based

Looks fuel injected , and of 150 cc ( I think)

Would it be eligible?

StephenEligible - depends on the engine parts. If the important bits are race/competition parts then no. Otherwise yes.

woodyracer

17th March 2010, 20:28

Brembo brakes!! thats a waste of resources.....

By the looks of it someone from honda {possibly retarded} has put an ancient slow motor into a flash great handling package for no reason at all.........its almost as if its a "factory" purpose build bucket :eek:

Bren_chch

17th March 2010, 20:37

Brembo brakes!! thats a waste of resources.....

Errrr not really woody! Grab one of shelf and fit! :Punk:

Shorty_925

17th March 2010, 20:52

Looks alot better than a usual CBF150.

woodyracer

17th March 2010, 20:57

Errrr not really woody! Grab one of shelf and fit! :Punk:

my honda brakes arnt a brand, they have the stock hoses and ive never had a problem with them, they are great, with a bike that light and that slow you dont need the flashest brakes off the shelf.

Bren_chch

17th March 2010, 20:58

so what, who's talking about you?

Trudes

18th March 2010, 06:20

First thing I'd do is get rid of that ugly front fairing :sick:

bucketracer

18th March 2010, 06:42

All road based

Looks fuel injected , and 150 cc

A real Bucketracer would buy two, set one up with slicks and tyre warmers and the other with wets then haul it all in its own Trailor.

SS90

18th March 2010, 06:48

my honda brakes arnt a brand, they have the stock hoses and ive never had a problem with them, they are great, with a bike that light and that slow you dont need the flashest brakes off the shelf.

That's because your bike is basically brand new Max.....a real luxury

woodyracer

18th March 2010, 15:20

That's because your bike is basically brand new Max.....a real luxury

realy?, my bike is worth half of what those gp chassis bikes are worth......

Got a problem with my biike? well get over it........its the modern version of a FXR......it will be old one day......

gatch

18th March 2010, 16:23

GAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY

Buy a podium bucket racing..

gatch

18th March 2010, 16:24

All road based

Looks fuel injected , and of 150 cc ( I think)

Would it be eligible?

Stephen

It says "racing concept", on the side. Surely this would imply it is meant for performance ?

Buckets4Me

18th March 2010, 17:17

realy?, my bike is worth half of what those gp chassis bikes are worth......

Got a problem with my biike? well get over it........its the modern version of a FXR......it will be old one day......

so your bike cost less than a grand to build ????
HA ha
mine did

and thats with the Olins and Brembos (well not brembos but nearly as good)

woodyracer

18th March 2010, 17:30

so your bike cost less than a grand to build ????
HA ha
mine did

and thats with the Olins and Brembos (well not brembos but nearly as good)

Olins??, thats a funy brand :shifty:

Well unlike oyu i dont have the materials,skill or time to build a bucket,

The only reason a bucket racing {miniture road racing} is so big is because of FXR's and maybe a few cbr's in there too.......it means people can race wihout havign to have technical knowledge

Henk

18th March 2010, 17:31

It says "racing concept", on the side. Surely this would imply it is meant for performance ?

How many horsepower is the "cybermatic sport" sticker on an FXR worth?

woodyracer

18th March 2010, 17:45

How many horsepower is the "cybermatic sport" sticker on an FXR worth?

not much considering that word it too advanced for my volcabuary :shutup:

Buckets4Me

18th March 2010, 18:02

Olins??, thats a funy brand :shifty:

Well unlike oyu i dont have the materials,skill or time to build a bucket,

The only reason a bucket racing {miniture road racing} is so big is because of FXR's and maybe a few cbr's in there too.......it means people can race wihout havign to have technical knowledge

just speldin so you can read

start and lean that how I did it (and asked for help)
it's not hard changing a spark plug is a good start

I mean you had that FXR looking good and now a cbr thats not to bad eaither
carry on and have fun with it

woodyracer

18th March 2010, 18:21

just speldin so you can read

start and lean that how I did it (and asked for help)
it's not hard changing a spark plug is a good start

I mean you had that FXR looking good and now a cbr thats not to bad eaither
carry on and have fun with it

Thanks, my cbr is great, dont think ill ever sell it, there's something about it that i like....

Buckets4Me

18th March 2010, 18:27

Thanks, my cbr is great, dont think ill ever sell it, there's something about it that i like....

it looks nice
it goes
and you ride it well

what is there to hate about it

woodyracer

18th March 2010, 18:30

it looks nice
it goes
and you ride it well

what is there to hate about it

nothign apart from it deserves better than a fxr header,chinese muffler can, as an exhaust system...:shutup:

gatch

18th March 2010, 18:39

How many horsepower is the "cybermatic sport" sticker on an FXR worth?

LOL !

-50 hp.

NOID

18th March 2010, 19:23

It says "racing concept", on the side. Surely this would imply it is meant for performance ?

Exacty what i was thinking ... im going to print of a Sticker that states, V8 Vtec Super Charged Turbo Racing VerII concept in this bike . . . thats got to mean that iv got performance

=cJ=

18th March 2010, 21:16

Olins??, thats a funy brand :shifty:

Well unlike oyu i dont have the materials,skill or time to build a bucket,

The only reason a bucket racing {miniture road racing} is so big is because of FXR's and maybe a few cbr's in there too.......it means people can race wihout havign to have technical knowledge

What the heck, how do you equate lack of technical knowlege to the tuned 2-strokes that are running in this class? That's a black art of tuning right there...

bucketracer

18th March 2010, 22:02

The only reason a bucket racing {miniture road racing} is so big is because of FXR's and maybe a few cbr's in there too......

Yes many new faces with the influx of FXR's but Buckets was plenty big at Mt Wellington before FXR's came along.

Does any one else remember the full car-park every meet of CB125's 2-Strokes and other interesting home made specials of 3-5 years ago. Where have all those bikes and people gone? Not many of those people or bikes are there now. FXRs haven't made Buckets they have only changed the nature of it.

FXR's have done for Buckets what Take A Ways did for Home Cooking.

Trudes

19th March 2010, 06:10

Yes many new faces with the influx of FXR's but Buckets was plenty big at Mt Wellington before FXR's came along.

Does any one else remember the full car-park every meet of CB125's 2-Strokes and other interesting home made specials of 3-5 years ago. Where have all those bikes and people gone? Not many of those people or bikes are there now. FXRs haven't made Buckets they have only changed the nature of it.

FXR's have done for Buckets what Take A Ways did for Home Cooking.

Best answer yet!!! And can I thief your bold bit? Bloody brilliant!

Henk

19th March 2010, 15:48

Had an interesting conversation on this topic at Mt Welly on the weekend. The Gist was that yes the old style buckets are still competitive as proved by the JCR CBs, however, any old school competitive buckets have had from 5 to 20 years of developement work where the FXR's haven't (as yet). I know someone is going to pipe in with "dicking about with the bike is what buckets is all about" but all that effort does create as real a barrier to entry as cash to build the most expensive FXR. And lets face it, there aren't that many chequebook racing bolt ons out there at the moment. The most expensive part of my bike so far has been the wheels, and that isn't going to be that different for something old school. The build cost may yet be eclipsed cost wise by the repairs I have to do following saturdays seizure, definitely would if I wasn't doing all the work myself.

Brian d marge

19th March 2010, 16:15

Do I sense a business opportunity here !

Stephen

Mudflaps

19th March 2010, 16:56

The only reason a bucket racing {miniture road racing} is so big is because of FXR's and maybe a few cbr's in there too.......it means people can race wihout havign to have technical knowledge

This is a ridiculous comment!! Sure FXRs and CBRs are prominant now in the bucket scene, but I was on the understanding that the term 'Buckets' was derived from the phrase 'Bucket of bolts', meaning race bikes being put together from here and there.

Yes the FXRs etc. have made it more accessable to those who might not have the skills and/or time to put into making a 'bucket' themselves, but they definately aren't holding the bucket classes together. There is def. a place for them in bucket racing, but my guess would be that they make up a smaller percentage of total bikes than true 'buckets of bolts'.

woodyracer

19th March 2010, 17:16

This is a ridiculous comment!! Sure FXRs and CBRs are prominant now in the bucket scene, but I was on the understanding that the term 'Buckets' was derived from the phrase 'Bucket of bolts', meaning race bikes being put together from here and there.

Yes the FXRs etc. have made it more accessable to those who might not have the skills and/or time to put into making a 'bucket' themselves, but they definately aren't holding the bucket classes together. There is def. a place for them in bucket racing, but my guess would be that they make up a smaller percentage of total bikes than true 'buckets of bolts'.

ridiculous??, not realy, i know alot of people who ride FXR's because they dont want to ride a "bucket"

I for one wouldnt be riding a bucket if it wasnt for FXR's or CBR'S........many others too....
Its not like FXR's have "stolen" the class, as seen old buckets can still win.

Tyler_94

19th March 2010, 17:25

Exacty what i was thinking ... im going to print of a Sticker that states, V8 Vtec Super Charged Turbo Racing VerII concept in this bike . . . thats got to mean that iv got performance

Haha, deffently. You might not be aloud to race your performance bike with us though.

Mudflaps

19th March 2010, 17:30

Sure it allows new riders to get out ther and race (as you put it, miniture road racing) but for me the main pull towards 'buckets' is the build/fix yourself aspect of it all.

Can I open a can of worms and ask the question, Is an FXR with new track rubber on it and mirrors/lights etc taken off it really a 'bucket'.

Maybe it's simular to the test match vs 20/20 cricket situation. One is the original form of the sport, and the other a new inovation, but both still called cricket.

BTW, I like racing against FXRS etc. Just adding to discussion.

Mudflaps

19th March 2010, 17:30

Sure it allows new riders to get out

woodyracer

19th March 2010, 17:36

But, not everyone likes the "build it yourself" concept, i use buckets as a practice of conrering for my streetstock riding, and abit of fun. I odnt want to have ot use hundreds of hours in the workshop, my CBR has been modded by meself, ive build alot of stuff for it and now it is a very fast bike with under $100 spent of mods.

Kickaha

19th March 2010, 18:48

If your RS125 is an Aprillia its ok if its a Honda its not

The rules are crystal clear

RS125 Aprillia is not ok unless they now aircool them or the rules have changed?

Yes the FXRs etc. have made it more accessable to those who might not have the skills and/or time to put into making a 'bucket' themselves, .

FXR buckets the last refuge of the mechanically incompetent

woodyracer

19th March 2010, 20:26

RS125 Aprillia is not ok unless they now aircool them or the rules have changed?

FXR buckets the last refuge of the mechanically incompetent

well, 'mechanically incompetent" or not they pretty cmuh own the feilds at mt wellignton
My cbr is capable of beating fxr's, but it seems the only time i get a 1st,2nd of 3rd is in the wet.......cant wait for winter

Yow Ling

19th March 2010, 20:26

RS125 Aprillia is not ok unless they now aircool them or the rules have changed?

the rules havnt changed, you need to read more.

I'm not sure the road legal part is right
it has to be non competitive

if I used my rs125 powered nsr would that be ok ????

I would sleve it down to a 100cc

Sleeves are allowed, arent they?

Kickaha

19th March 2010, 20:47

Sleeves are allowed, arent they?

Would that be the best option though? that would mean about a 50mm bore x 54.5 mm stroke?

Buckets4Me

19th March 2010, 21:06

Henk

20th March 2010, 06:46

they said the same about rg50's back in the day ????

Where are all the RG50s? I'd love to see F5 pick up again. Seems to have about 5 bikes running on a regular basis in Auckland. I remember a meet I went to as a spectator many many moons ago where F5 seemed biger than F4

Trudes

20th March 2010, 07:38

Penises got smaller? :dodge:

gatch

20th March 2010, 09:37

Penises got smaller? :dodge:

Lol ! What of the fellas who race f1 then ???

Trudes

20th March 2010, 09:52

Lol ! What of the fellas who race f1 then ???

They ride good? :laugh:

speedpro

20th March 2010, 10:34

Or the street magic craze, that built the F5 fields up for a couple of years and provided lots of entertainment

jasonu

20th March 2010, 15:31

Do I sense a business opportunity here !

Stephen

Tried that last century and it didn't work.

jasonu

20th March 2010, 15:38

Can I open a can of worms and ask the question, Is an FXR with new track rubber on it and mirrors/lights etc taken off it really a 'bucket'.

It seams to be the same situation as when RG50's showed up. All of a sudden you could put Yokohama sprint tires on a more or less stock bike and win races. Before long you needed to add a pipe, then a better carb, then chassis mods, then... Good stuff I say to anything that boosts numbers and keeps the class going.

jasonu

20th March 2010, 15:44

my CBR has been modded by meself, ive build alot of stuff for it and now it is a very fast bike with under $100 spent of mods.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a bucket to me

Bren_chch

20th March 2010, 17:22

is an honda rs125 framed bike a bucket?

this could go on for years.

Kickaha

20th March 2010, 17:36

is an honda rs125 framed bike a bucket?

this could go on for years.

No it isn't and they're all cheating bastards that own them (well right up to the point I get one anyway)

Henk

20th March 2010, 17:51

We have the rule book to define what an F4 or F5 bike can and cannot be. Any other gibbering on about whether something is a bucket or within the spirit of the thing as opposed to the rules as laid down by MNZ is all a bit pointless really.

Yow Ling

20th March 2010, 17:55

Brian d marge

31st March 2010, 15:52

What about this ,,, then

Stephen

gav

3rd April 2010, 22:17

What about this ,,, then

Stephen
With those tyres? Most certainly :)

Buckets4Me

4th April 2010, 06:46

No it isn't and they're all cheating bastards that own them (well right up to the point I get one anyway)

dont cheat as much as those side car boys now do they :) (well right up to the point I get one anyway)