Looking for a station wagon.

[sil3nt]

Need a station wagon for trips to the snow this year and as i don't know my cars i need you lot to suggest some models!

Needs to be 4WD don't care if its turbo or not don't care if its manual or auto.

Looking to spend around $5000. Already have some models in mind. Have been told to stay away from Subaru because of the insurance premiums.

Suggest away!

[blackdog]

camry(220)/gracia, or 626/capella

both reliability ++

[98tls]

Toyota Caldina,great 4wd wagons with Toyotas reliability.

[blackdog]

Toyota Caldina,great 4wd wagons with Toyotas reliability.

:rofl: don't know why i didn't mention them aswell......i've got one!

so yea....caldinas are good

[sil3nt]

Toyota Caldina,great 4wd wagons with Toyotas reliability.Everyone i have asked has recommended this! Flat mate had a standard Caldina for years now he has the Turbo Caldina. Definitely on my list of cars to look at.

The 626 and camry both appear to be front wheel drive. Don't really want to piss around with chains but thanks for the choices!

Im starting to think the Caldina and mitsi legnum/libero are going to be my only options.

[98tls]

:rofl: don't know why i didn't mention them aswell......i've got one!

so yea....caldinas are good :shutup:lol.Got a mate with one thats done 270,000 ks,everythings still fine bar the gear shifts a bit sloppy and a few interior rattles.Great wagon.

[MIXONE]

If you can find a nissan stagea at the right price I'd recommend it.I've had one for a couple of years and 40k and it's been a great wagon.Turbo 2.5 six with the 4wd drive system out of the godzilla.Quite fast too.

[blackdog]

Everyone i have asked has recommended this! Flat mate had a standard Caldina for years now he has the Turbo Caldina. Definitely on my list of cars to look at.

The 626 and camry both appear to be front wheel drive. Don't really want to piss around with chains but thanks for the choices!

Im starting to think the Caldina and mitsi legnum/libero are going to be my only options.

plenty of awd capellas out there, and few gracias too...

if you go for a legnum (awesome look) AVOID any GDI models like the plague

[Edbear]

Steer clear of the Mitsi... Can't say more than I agree about the Caldina. Mate's got one and loves it.

[blackdog]

If you can find a nissan stagea at the right price I'd recommend it.I've had one for a couple of years and 40k and it's been a great wagon.Turbo 2.5 six with the 4wd drive system out of the godzilla.Quite fast too.

those 6 cyl nissans are bombproof too, my brother got 320k outta his, the only thing he ever had to do to it was replace ign coils....

[Edbear]

If you can find a nissan stagea at the right price I'd recommend it.I've had one for a couple of years and 40k and it's been a great wagon.Turbo 2.5 six with the 4wd drive system out of the godzilla.Quite fast too.

Or one of these. They're pretty good too.

[98tls]

Everyone i have asked has recommended this! Flat mate had a standard Caldina for years now he has the Turbo Caldina. Definitely on my list of cars to look at.

The 626 and camry both appear to be front wheel drive. Don't really want to piss around with chains but thanks for the choices!

Im starting to think the Caldina and mitsi legnum/libero are going to be my only options.

Given the choice between an older Toyota and Mitsi i would have the Toyota any day,when living up North i worked in a Toyota Franchise for 5 years,in that time i never failed to be amazed at the reliability of the things,ive seen 1.3L Corollas done 300,00 +kms and still going strong and no rust problems,not saying Mitis are bad just dont think you can go wrong with a Toyota.(despite there recent problem).

[EJK]

Get one of this mothafooka. Gallardo V10 TFSI biturbo.

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Edit: Oops I thought you said around 5000cc

[sil3nt]

I am already a fan of Toyotas. I have driven a 1.3L corolla (that my parents purchased brand new in 1989) for the last few years. Its up to about 220,000k's and been in 3 "write off" accidents. Still going fine!
And i already hate mitsi because my mum and GF both own galants that i hate!

[MisterD]

Have been told to stay away from Subaru because of the insurance premiums.

Suggest away!

If you avoid the turboed models and stick with the 2.5 normally aspirated jobs they're ok...there was no difference at all between the quote for my Forester vs a Caldina...bit more than your 5k budget though - so if they're older and non-imobilsered, might be different.

[blackdog]

If you avoid the turboed models and stick with the 2.5 normally aspirated jobs they're ok...there was no difference at all between the quote for my Forester vs a Caldina...bit more than your 5k budget though - so if they're older and non-imobilsered, might be different.

lovely to drive, thirsty as a bavarian at oktoberfest

[MisterD]

lovely to drive, thirsty as a bavarian at oktoberfest

Myth. I've just driven Onehunga - Hamilton - Rotorua - Tauranga and back to Bombay before the warning light came on. Somewhere in the 7.summat litre /100k, not thrashing it, but not hanging about either.

[blackdog]

Myth. I've just driven Onehunga - Hamilton - Rotorua - Tauranga and back to Bombay before the warning light came on. Somewhere in the 7.summat litre /100k, not thrashing it, but not hanging about either.

ur dreaming. ive had 2.0's, 2.5's and turbs and never got close to 7 from a 2.5. might have just squeezed 9 out of a 2.5 on an extreme economy run. i could only just believe it for a 2.0.

[spinnanz]

Re Stagea, per tank I get just over 500km open road driving nice, 400-450 normal around town. Thats 2.5L turbo, 4wd, auto. I think the pig weighs in close to 1800kg loaded.

[awayatc]

2.5 subies having fair few headgasket problems.
Turbo's and 2.0 quadcams are thirsty
1.8 single overhead cam engines are easy to work on and quite economical

[SMOKEU]

Have a look at the Audi A4, some of them are 4WD and will fit into your budget. A much nicer car than a Jappa for the same price. The 1.8L Audi/VW engine is pretty much bulletproof, not sure about the rest.

[steve_t]

Good dredge :niceone:

[MIXONE]

Re Stagea, per tank I get just over 500km open road driving nice, 400-450 normal around town. Thats 2.5L turbo, 4wd, auto. I think the pig weighs in close to 1800kg loaded.

I've got a 97 RS4V and 400 to 450 on a trip is the norm.That's driving it nicely!If I heavy foot it the consumption increases dramatically.