NZTT protests

[suzuki21]

Glenn Skachill hit James Smith causing them both to fall in race 1, I have been told by a reliable source that MNZ are seriously considering suspending James' licence for misconduct for turning in on Glenn.

Also Smithy got a time penalty for jumping the start but MNZ may reverse this decision to make up for the misfortune he had in race 1. WTF?

[White trash]

MNZ's just as fucked as ever it seems....

[quallman1234]

Wow, wtf.

10 Char.

[Wingnut]

Ohh this threads gonna be a goody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here we go..............

[Kornholio]

Sketchy smoked em all in the 2nd race tho :D

[Bren_chch]

Glenn Skachill hit James Smith causing them both to fall in race 1, I have been told by a reliable source that MNZ are seriously considering suspending James' licence for misconduct for turning in on Glenn.

You must be pulling on your pisser


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVdtvlqCBXw

[Billy]

Glenn Skachill hit James Smith causing them both to fall in race 1, I have been told by a reliable source that MNZ are seriously considering suspending James' licence for misconduct for turning in on Glenn.

Also Smithy got a time penalty for jumping the start but MNZ may reverse this decision to make up for the misfortune he had in race 1. WTF?
Sounds like a right cock up,But your thread is entitled NZTT protests,So when are you gonna tell who protested who and what about???

[brads]

Still got a lot to learn thou it seems

[Maido]

Glenn Skachill hit James Smith causing them both to fall in race 1, I have been told by a reliable source that MNZ are seriously considering suspending James' licence for misconduct for turning in on Glenn.

Also Smithy got a time penalty for jumping the start but MNZ may reverse this decision to make up for the misfortune he had in race 1. WTF?

That would be the biggest load of horse shit that could ever happen. I have talked to Glen, and he will admit it here, that it was his fault. Neither rider is holding grudges, it was a very unfortunate racing incident.

[sidecar bob]

Ohh this threads gonna be a goody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here we go..............
Sittin here twiddling my pen, waiting for Scrivy to show up.

[scrivy]

Sittin here twiddling my pen, waiting for Scrivy to show up.

Nah bro, I didn't go to the meeting - had to work! Looks like I missed a goodie!

Shame about the impending bollocks........

[viewer]

I hear Jim T. abused a competator at the meeting yesterday. A dose of his own medicine going to be dishd out?

[wharfy]

I hear Jim T. abused a competator at the meeting yesterday. A dose of his own medicine going to be dishd out?

This will be good ...
Any details ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I hear Jim T. abused a competator at the meeting yesterday. A dose of his own medicine going to be dishd out?

I'm amazed someone hasn't smashed his face in by now.

[wharfy]

I'm amazed someone hasn't smashed his face in by now.

That wouldn't be OK

[Billy]

I'm amazed someone hasn't smashed his face in by now.

Yeah,But his abrasiveness pales in significance too Errol Conaghans demeanour back in the 70s and 80s and he survived

[Billy]

Yeah,Come on viewer,Fill us in on the details,What are we talking,Breaching the code of conduct???

[Crasherfromwayback]

That wouldn't be OK

Maybe not. But neither is the way he speaks to people...often before they even get a chance to 'explain' things.


Yeah,But his abrasiveness pales in significance too Errol Conaghans demeanour back in the 70s and 80s and he survived

Agreed. He was a total cock smoker.

[Billy]

Maybe not. But neither is the way he speaks to people...often before they even get a chance to 'explain' things.



Agreed. He was a total cock smoker.

LOL,Not sure Heather(his wife)would agree with that,He definitely took his role seriously,Still he got the job done,Had a chat with him at the 09 Manfeild round of the Nats,He was there as MNZ steward and I was assistant clerk of the course,He was stunned at the way things are done now,Probably why he wouldnt do the job this year

[scracha]

I'm amazed someone hasn't smashed his face in by now.
Helmet cam + headbutt would certainly bring up the TV ratings.

[CHOPPA]

He probably deserved to get abused

[Crasherfromwayback]

Helmet cam + headbutt would certainly bring up the TV ratings.

Probably improve the ugly fuckers looks too

[Robert Taylor]

Sketchy smoked em all in the 2nd race tho :D

Emphatically. And also unlike another rider who has been the subject of another thread he had the good grace to realise what he did, own up to his misdemeanour and apologise for it.

Glen has a bright future.

[jellywrestler]

Sittin here twiddling my penis, waiting for Scrivy to show up.
say what???

[gixerracer]

WTF Steve man I thought I was a shit stirrer seems I have nothing on you. Im not sure who you got your info from but that Accident was only ONE persons fault and it was not James so before you say such a STUPID thing in public you may want to do some research first!
Glenn Skachill hit James Smith causing them both to fall in race 1, I have been told by a reliable source that MNZ are seriously considering suspending James' licence for misconduct for turning in on Glenn.

Also Smithy got a time penalty for jumping the start but MNZ may reverse this decision to make up for the misfortune he had in race 1. WTF?

[Shaun]

I saw the accident close up

I saw Glenn apologise to jimmy

I spoke to Jimmy, and know he know;s Glenn's actions were a mistake

I spoke to Glenn and Know he hates himself big time for the mistake

Glenn could be a NZ World champion yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Billy]

WTF Steve man I thought I was a shit stirrer seems I have nothing on you. Im not sure who you got your info from but that Accident was only ONE persons fault and it was not James so before you say such a STUPID thing in public you may want to do some research first!

Did it cross your mind at any point it might be a pisstake,Interesting you highlighted his nickname,

[Robert Taylor]

Did it cross your mind at any point it might be a pisstake,Interesting you highlighted his nickname,

It totally crossed my mind as well as Steve Sangster obviously has little better to occupy his time with.

[Billy]

It totally crossed my mind as well as Steve Sangster obviously has little better to occupy his time with.

Oooooo Robert,You cant mention his name,Youll upset the minions and the paranoid ones will think youre trying to discredit them.
Still youve got too give him some credit for trying to shed some light on the fact that its not only Bryce Meads that crashes into other people.A reasonably feeble comparison I would have thought,Still what would I know,I only make assumptions on the facts relayed too me.

[Bikernereid]

You must be pulling on your pisser


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVdtvlqCBXw

Well at least Glen took responsibility for his actions and didn't try to blame anyone else. Makes a change!!

[Billy]

I hear Jim T. abused a competator at the meeting yesterday. A dose of his own medicine going to be dishd out?

So whats the goss on this?Do you have any further information on this or is it just another KB rumor????

[Robert Taylor]

Oooooo Robert,You cant mention his name,Youll upset the minions and the paranoid ones will think youre trying to discredit them.
Still youve got too give him some credit for trying to shed some light on the fact that its not only Bryce Meads that crashes into other people.A reasonably feeble comparison I would have thought,Still what would I know,I only make assumptions on the facts relayed too me.

I know! But there are important differences as follows,

1) A realisation that you have actually done something wrong

2) Humility ( rather than denial )

3) Apology

Glen doesnt make a habit of this, what is done is done and he had the total good grace to be genuinely upset at his mistake and to apologise. I saw the pain in his face and to be honest he has gone up further in my estimation. He is now clearly the best 600 class rider in NZ and he deserves full distributor backing.

On a related subject I have to agree with Mike Wilkins sentiments at the shambles that was the prizegiving and am kicking myself for also not getting up and challenging the farce that was unfolding in front of us.
Although my sentiments are very much in the Smith and Skatchill camps events that unfolded clearly gave Nick the points lead and the championship, in spite of ongoing appeal actions. Nick should have had his moment of glory and been able to thank his supporters and sponsors. Also for all of the other classes that preceded the 600 riders being called up.
The light was indeed running out because of all the stoppages during the day, and hindsights a fine thing. BUT, there were a load of generators there and doubtless an appeal could have been made for some loan of lighting as someone in the pits would have had in their kit. It still would have looked VERY unproffessional but all the sponsors, supporters and helpers would have been able to be rightfully thanked.

[Biggles08]

I know! But there are important differences as follows,

1) A realisation that you have actually done something wrong

2) Humility ( rather than denial )

3) Apology

Glen doesnt make a habit of this, what is done is done and he had the total good grace to be genuinely upset at his mistake and to apologise. I saw the pain in his face and to be honest he has gone up further in my estimation. He is now clearly the best 600 class rider in NZ and he deserves full distributor backing.

On a related subject I have to agree with Mike Wilkins sentiments at the shambles that was the prizegiving and am kicking myself for also not getting up and challenging the farce that was unfolding in front of us.
Although my sentiments are very much in the Smith and Skatchill camps events that unfolded clearly gave Nick the points lead and the championship, in spite of ongoing appeal actions. Nick should have had his moment of glory and been able to thank his supporters and sponsors. Also for all of the other classes that preceded the 600 riders being called up.
The light was indeed running out because of all the stoppages during the day, and hindsights a fine thing. BUT, there were a load of generators there and doubtless an appeal could have been made for some loan of lighting as someone in the pits would have had in their kit. It still would have looked VERY unproffessional but all the sponsors, supporters and helpers would have been able to be rightfully thanked.

While I agree Glen S is indeed a fantastic rider with huge talent, a great guy, a good mate and a good role model that will grow to be a huge success in motorcycle racing...most likely internationally, I think we need to give Nick C the credit he deserves...he is NZ number 1 and he earned that title through fantastic riding, massive dedication, support and skill...this would make him the best NZ 600SS rider in NZ I would say.

On you other points I have to agree entirely...the prize giving was embarrassing and all excuses in the world would not be good enough to cover up the idiocy that unfolded at the finale of the supposedly pinnacle of NZ Road Racing! What a laugh!

Of course I'm not very "experienced" so I could be wrong:shifty::p

[Billy]

While I agree Glen S is indeed a fantastic rider with huge talent, a great guy, a good mate and a good role model that will grow to be a huge success in motorcycle racing...most likely internationally, I think we need to give Nick C the credit he deserves...he is NZ number 1 and he earned that title through fantastic riding, massive dedication, support and skill...this would make him the best NZ 600SS rider in NZ I would say.

On you other points I have to agree entirely...the prize giving was embarrassing and all excuses in the world would not be good enough to cover up the idiocy that unfolded at the finale of the supposedly pinnacle of NZ Road Racing! What a laugh!

Of course I'm not very "experienced" so I could be wrong:shifty::p

Yip,I would agree with the bulk of this post,Nick has shown great maturity and kept his goal in sight despite the hurdles he encountered.He came out firing at round 1 and when things didnt workout quite so good at the next 2 rounds,He never gave up,Which paid dividends when the ball bounced his way at the last 2 rounds.Glen had a stellar first up attempt at the Nationals and showed just what a talent he is with some real skill and Im sure hes learnt heaps,If hes still in the country next year and has Chris Osbourne with him,He will be very hard to beat!Good on these two and in fact everybody that participated at National level this year,You guys all need congratulating for the huge effort youve put in,To keep the sport ticking over.

[cowpoos]

It totally crossed my mind as well as Steve Sangster obviously has little better to occupy his time with.

Your Sharper than I though Robert Taylor ;)

[Robert Taylor]

While I agree Glen S is indeed a fantastic rider with huge talent, a great guy, a good mate and a good role model that will grow to be a huge success in motorcycle racing...most likely internationally, I think we need to give Nick C the credit he deserves...he is NZ number 1 and he earned that title through fantastic riding, massive dedication, support and skill...this would make him the best NZ 600SS rider in NZ I would say.

On you other points I have to agree entirely...the prize giving was embarrassing and all excuses in the world would not be good enough to cover up the idiocy that unfolded at the finale of the supposedly pinnacle of NZ Road Racing! What a laugh!

Of course I'm not very "experienced" so I could be wrong:shifty::p

Experience comes with time Biggles!!

Yes Nick deserves his title.With factory trained Ohlins suspension technicians fettling his suspension, plus chucking out that dodgy BPF stuff in the front end he wouldnt have lost the front so much and would have been able to crash at a higher speed!!! Nick is clearly ready for Superbikes.

[cowpoos]

Nick is clearly ready for Superbikes.

He was a year ago In my humble opinion...I'm really stoked for him. he did a awesome job
this nats!!

[White trash]

Yup. Good on Mr Cole indeed. He's worked bloody hard to get where he is and overcome some pretty big obstacles on his way there. True tenacity right there. Quite nice to see a Kawasaki on the top step for a change too.

[roadracingoldfart]

Yeah,But his abrasiveness pales in significance too Errol Conaghans demeanour back in the 70s and 80s and he survived







Agreed. He was a total cock smoker.



I think it was about 1990 and Errol swaggered up to me in his fuckin green shorts and started yelling and ranting about something unknown to me at all , he didnt accept my not knowing and with a certain amount of anger he stepped alot closer to me with arms waving , this was a silly thing to do to a guy thats 6 foot 2 and trained to repel in a reasonably permanent fassion. After being helped back to his feet he realised he had the wrong bloke and should have been yelling at some dude on bike # 75 and i was #74 lol.
I feel sorry for that dude , he was gonna get REALLY yelled at by now.

Ahhhh i love memories.

[jellywrestler]

WTF Steve man I thought I was a shit stirrer seems I have nothing on you. Im not sure who you got your info from but that Accident was only ONE persons fault and it was not James so before you say such a STUPID thing in public you may want to do some research first!
hey craig, you gone upmarket and got a computer in your sandpit now?

[gixerracer]

i hate you
hey craig, you gone upmarket and got a computer in your sandpit now?

[Kickaha]

i hate you

So just how many Bucket and Spade awards would you have collected on the weekend?

[gixerracer]

horribillyis you should no me much better than that it was a piss take on his pisstake just not as blunt as my other post i guess so i will go back to that so as not to upset any one
Did it cross your mind at any point it might be a pisstake,Interesting you highlighted his nickname,

[suzuki21]

horribillyis you should no me much better than that it was a piss take on his pisstake just not as blunt as my other post i guess so i will go back to that so as not to upset any one

How dare you take the piss Craig, whoops I mentioned a name. Suprising how people take outlandish stories and believe them because they are on the internet, I think I made my point. I might put a thread up saying you are good looking, or is that going a bit far?

[suzuki21]

It totally crossed my mind as well as Steve Sangster obviously has little better to occupy his time with.

Just like a lot of people on this site Robert! You spelt my name wrong. (And I wanted to stay anonymous please)
It is spelt StePHen Sangster
metallikats@xtra.co.nz
0274-652459
06-2782020
DDI 06-2782061
06-2746653
06-2748030
or..... 062748053

[Kickaha]

I might put a thread up saying you are good looking, or is that going a bit far?

If you're going to do a thread like that at least make it believable

[scott411]

On a related subject I have to agree with Mike Wilkins


you do not want to start doing stupid things like that ;)

[Billy]

Just like a lot of people on this site Robert! You spelt my name wrong. (And I wanted to stay anonymous please)
It is spelt StePHen Sangster
metallikats@xtra.co.nz
0274-652459
06-2782020
DDI 06-2782061
06-2746653
06-2748030
or..... 062748053

Gee willacres ste PH en,Who pays your phone bills????Waste of time posting your conract details on here mate,They dont want too talk one on one,They rather just grandstand on the net

[scrivy]

Waste of time posting your conract details on here mate,They dont want too talk one on one,They rather just grandstand on the net

Shit Billy, you even take shit from one thread into another one! Why stop short of naming the person above - why not just say this relates to SCRIVY?
Other thread here: (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/120872-AMCC/page5)

Stand up higher on your soap box and yell out my name SCRIVY at the top of your lungs. Don't add inuendos to your posts to confuse people. Say it like it is.

I am really pleased that you did turn down that commissioners job with MNZ - with biased attitudes like yours, and hatred of fellow racers - MNZ would have been truely screwed!

Oh, and I only bother to use the phone to talk to rational thinking people. Hence I didn't call you as you would have hoped.

I hope this clarifies your above post.

Scrivy

[Shaun]

Shit Billy, you even take shit from one thread into another one! Why stop short of naming the person above - why not just say this relates to SCRIVY?
Other thread here: (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/120872-AMCC/page5)

Stand up higher on your soap box and yell out my name SCRIVY at the top of your lungs. Don't add inuendos to your posts to confuse people. Say it like it is.

I am really pleased that you did turn down that commissioners job with MNZ - with biased attitudes like yours, and hatred of fellow racers - MNZ would have been truely screwed!

Oh, and I only bother to use the phone to talk to rational thinking people. Hence I didn't call you as you would have hoped.

I hope this clarifies your above post.

Scrivy




I am really pleased that you did turn down that commissioners job with MNZ - with biased attitudes like yours, and hatred of fellow racers - MNZ would have been truely screwed!


Scrivy, so when are you leaving the side car accosiation then

[scrivy]

Scrivy, so when are you leaving the side car accosiation then

Don't plan to Shaun. Why, does that bother you too??

You of all people get on this site Shaun and say you don't want to support politics in our sport, but then come up with a statement like the one above. You know where it comes from. State some facts and truths.

[Shaun]

Experience comes with time Biggles!!

Yes Nick deserves his title.With factory trained Ohlins suspension technicians fettling his suspension, plus chucking out that dodgy BPF stuff in the front end he wouldnt have lost the front so much and would have been able to crash at a higher speed!!! Nick is clearly ready for Superbikes.


Sorry Robert, as you are a true friend!

But i find this kind of posting from you a professional, Pathetic mate!

Actions speak louder than words, just go take that title back next year

[Robert Taylor]

Sorry Robert, as you are a true friend!

But i find this kind of posting from you a professional, Pathetic mate!

Actions speak louder than words, just go take that title back next year

I hear where you are coming from but I firmly believe what I said. Many times I saw evidence that his front end could have worked better than it did, thats a critical appraisal where I have also seen it on some of ''my'' bikes and have then promptly gone in and changed the settings. The Ohlins stuff is as you realise designed to be taken apart rather more easily so you can change the settings. I make no apology whatsoever for saying that the BPF stuff is inherently dodgy. That is why teams such as Factory Honda in MotoGB rejected their Showa BPF forks, also Suzuki in WSBK etc. The idea isnt so bad but the production application is full of issues.

So Im biased....

Nick did deserve the title and he is a truly brilliant rider to overcome any shortcomings, whatever they may be.

[Robert Taylor]

you do not want to start doing stupid things like that ;)

Distantly related to Mike perchance?

[Robert Taylor]

Just like a lot of people on this site Robert! You spelt my name wrong. (And I wanted to stay anonymous please)
It is spelt StePHen Sangster
metallikats@xtra.co.nz
0274-652459
06-2782020
DDI 06-2782061
06-2746653
06-2748030
or..... 062748053

I apologise profusely for both spelling your name incorrectly and blowing your cover!

[scracha]

I hope Nick takes a big bank loan and tries his hand racing abroad next year. Fantastic to watch.
(and he pissed all over the ohlins clad bikes)

[cowpoos]

horribillyis you should no me much better than that it was a piss take on his pisstake just not as blunt as my other post i guess so i will go back to that so as not to upset any one

you punctuate less than I do....hmmm....I understand the criticism now.....:yes:

[Robert Taylor]

I hope Nick takes a big bank loan and tries his hand racing abroad next year. Fantastic to watch.
(and he pissed all over the ohlins clad bikes)

What was in the rear of his bike?
Who emphatically won the very last race of the 600cc champs?
Who emphatically won both races at Manfield until the protest?
Who had a 14 point lead going into the last round prior to the protest?
What suspension was fitted to the championship winning Superbike?
'' '' '' '' '' '' '' '' Superstock bike?
'' '' '' '' '' '' '' '' F3 bike?
'' '' '' '' '' '' '' '' Pro Twins bike?
'' '' '' '' '' '' '' '' 125 class bike?
Plus a lot of depth in the subsequent placegetters beyond that, mostly supplied and fettled by CKT. Its easy to concentrate on one rider who already has abundant talent and tenacity ( all kudos to Nick ) but you must also be able to demonstrate a depth of success that extends beyond just one or two riders. The fact of the matter is that this is inarguably a very difficult trade that we are engaged in.

WE DONT HAVE TO OFFER THE GREAT DEPTH OF SERVICE THAT WE DO, AT VERY LOW COST OR PLAIN KIWI GOODWILLl, MOST RACERS ACTUALLY APPRECIATE IT. I think also most racers appreciate dealing with FACTORY TRAINED Ohlins suspension guys that are not full of wild unsubstaniated fantasies / romanticisms and bullshit.

I TAKE NOTHING AWAY FROM NICK, HE IS A NICE GUY, IMMENSELY TALENTED AND FULLY DESERVED HIS TITLE. AND ALL THE VERY BEST TO HIM.

[scracha]

What was in the rear of his bike?

I TAKE NOTHING AWAY FROM NICK, HE IS A NICE GUY, IMMENSELY TALENTED AND FULLY DESERVED HIS TITLE. AND ALL THE VERY BEST TO HIM.

Fuggin hell RT, it took you far longer to bite than I expected :-)

[eelracing]

Fuggin hell RT, it took you far longer to bite than I expected :-)

A bit like fishing with a grenade.

[gixerracer]

do you realise how old he is give him a chance
Fuggin hell RT, it took you far longer to bite than I expected :-)

[Billy]

I hear Jim T. abused a competator at the meeting yesterday. A dose of his own medicine going to be dishd out?
This is just the sort of bullshit posting that typifies some of the comments made in TGWs thread,This person is clearly talking through a hole in their butt as they dont appear too be able to back their statement up with further information.I would ask the moderators to remove this post if it can not be substantiated by the poster!

[wharfy]

This is just the sort of bullshit posting that typifies some of the comments made in TGWs thread,This person is clearly talking through a hole in their butt as they dont appear too be able to back their statement up with further information.I would ask the moderators to remove this post if it can not be substantiated by the poster!

Approx 75% of ALL posts in this forum (I only read this one) are unsubstantiated (like the % figure I just made up) about half of them are slanderous and a hell of a lot are ignorant.
I for one would relish a forum about motorcycle racing that had hard data, informed opinion, and interesting questions - but I am not holding my breath

[scrivy]

I for one would relish a forum about motorcycle racing that was hard

Dude, there's no one at the moment in racing that is hard...... :shifty::shutup::gob:

[gixerracer]

That really really hurts scrivy
Dude, there's no one at the moment in racing that is hard...... :shifty::shutup::gob:

[scrivy]

That really really hurts scrivy

See what I mean.......... If you were hard, you'd call me a c$%t and a........

You softie.
Now get back to your knitting!!!!

[slowpoke]

Oooooh, did someone mention knitting?! Where are we meeting? Do we each bring a plate? None of that bought bikkies either, put a bit of effort in fella's and at least do some cheese and crackers or cucumber sammies....and I'd love a nice cup of tea 2, one of those posh ones with a hint of bergamot.....finally something to get excited about! Who said racers were boring?

[scrivy]

Oooooh, did someone mention knitting?! Where are we meeting? Do we each bring a plate? None of that bought bikkies either, put a bit of effort in fella's and at least do some cheese and crackers or cucumber sammies....and I'd love a nice cup of tea 2, one of those posh ones with a hint of bergamot.....finally something to get excited about! Who said racers were boring?

See, now that's just being gay!!

[fossil]

This is just the sort of bullshit posting that typifies some of the comments made in TGWs thread,This person is clearly talking through a hole in their butt as they dont appear too be able to back their statement up with further information.I would ask the moderators to remove this post if it can not be substantiated by the poster!

I agree, sometimes there's so much dribble on here I have had to fit a bib to my monitor.

[cowpoos]

Dude, there's no one at the moment in racing that is hard...... :shifty::shutup::gob:

I'm only out temporarily sweet cheeks....all you cunts are fucked when I'm back on track!!

[Kornholio]

I'm only out temporarily sweet cheeks....all you cunts are fucked when I'm back on track!!

Hurry up man, it's been like 3 years since we last seen ya out there!!!!.

[scracha]

I'm only out temporarily sweet cheeks....all you cunts are fucked when I'm back on track!!

Your missus letting you out to play Mr Poos?

[Kickaha]

Your missus letting you out to play Mr Poos?

She'll be keeping his balls in her handbag so he doesn't get to feeling to independent