Chch Weds Maintenance Evenings 2010

[phoenixgtr]

Wofman & Longwheely from Gloucester Motors/Motorcycles have kindly agreed to host the maintenance evenings for another winter.

These are a chance to learn a thing or two about basic bike maintenance (or just get together for a gas bag and a beer).

We'll do these each Wednseday from 6pm, unless Wofman or Longwheely say it's a no go for that week, starting from NEXT Wednesday the 14th of April.

Location: Gloucester Motors/Motorcycles - Cnr of Gloucester Rd & Fitzgerald Ave
Time: From 6pm Wednesdays

[Subike]

Good stuff,
I will make an effort to attend this as often as I can

[McWild]

I'm well overdue for something to blow up or fall off so I'm sure Ill be able to keep us busy.

[Peeteey]

Good stuff,
I will make an effort to attend this as often as I can

Likewise, it's too good a thing to miss. Very kind of the hosts! :yes:
I'm sure people will soon get sick of me asking about things, I've got questions up the wazoo ... :shit:

[JMemonic]

Thanks folks for organising this, looking forward to getting along when I can.

[Peeteey]

Wofman & Longwheely from Gloucester Motors/Motorcycles have kindly agreed to host the maintenance evenings for another winter.

Location: Gloucester Motors/Motorcycles
Time: From 6pm Wednesdays

So these are the guys on the corner of Gloucester and Fitzgerald?

[helenoftroy]

So these are the guys on the corner of Gloucester and Fitzgerald?
They sure are!

[been_there]

Fantastic news!!!

[KiwiPhoenix]

Awesome! Can't wait

[maxf]

Should be interesting to see the pros at work (and work out how much of a cowboy I really am!)

[Dave-]

awesome guys, I'll be along when I can.

[neels]

So how do these evenings work, for those of us that haven't been before.

[Dave-]

So how do these evenings work, for those of us that haven't been before.

it's quite a complicated system, but if you follow these steps you should come away with a positive result:

Show up at 6pm on wednesday night
Ask for help <---- important!

[JMemonic]

Ask fore help <---- important!
[/LIST]

If anyone yells that in the workshop they are in the wrong place, its a workshop, not a golf course to paraphrase a bit of startrek.

[Dave-]

If anyone yells that in the workshop they are in the wrong place, its a workshop, not a golf course to paraphrase a bit of startrek.

haha, wondered if someone would pick up on that before I edited it....

[phoenixgtr]

Usually it just involves standing round, talking crap and then heading to the pub, but ocasionally someone brings something along that they'd like a hand with.

[been_there]

it's quite a complicated system, but if you follow these steps you should come away with a positive result:

Show up at 6pm on wednesday night
Ask for help <---- important!


Also a good idea is to post what you want or going to attempt to do

[been_there]

Also a good idea is to post what you want or going to attempt to do

But only if your like me and actually want to do some maintenance/repairs etc and learn....

[KiwiPhoenix]

Well I have something I need to do to my bike. I have to adjust my headlight, went for WoF and Mr WoFman said it needs adjusting. It will involve using extremely complicated tools like a hammer!! :rofl: So might wait till next week so someone can help *flutters her eyelids* :laugh:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Also whilst I'm here, I'm planning on doing a ride round the city tonight (since the maintenance nights don't kick off till next week) was thinking meet at BK (usual time) 6pm for 6.30pm departure, do a loop and then head to the pub, Twisted Hop. Any takers??

[Peeteey]

Also whilst I'm here, I'm planning on doing a ride round the city tonight (since the maintenance nights don't kick off till next week) was thinking meet at BK (usual time) 6pm for 6.30pm departure, do a loop and then head to the pub, Twisted Hop. Any takers??

Yep, I'm in!

Bit bloody cold tho ... :cold:

[Flip]

What route are you thinking about doing?

Probably going to be stuck at work for a few more hours, but might try to catch up.

[EJK]

Yay finally a ride that I can attend

[Spuds1234]

Ive got a bike that has a very heavy engine in it. The engine needs removing so if lots of big strong guys can turn up on the 14th that would be great...

If I cant have big strong guys, lots and lots of little ones will do I suppose.

[bkker]

looking forward to coming along!
My front wheel's been making a funny noise for a bit now, someone said it because of a warp in the brake disk, which may be, but I'm also suspicious of the bearings. Does anyone have a stand I could use when I get there?

[kerryhare]

Also whilst I'm here, I'm planning on doing a ride round the city tonight (since the maintenance nights don't kick off till next week) was thinking meet at BK (usual time) 6pm for 6.30pm departure, do a loop and then head to the pub, Twisted Hop. Any takers??

I may met you at pub, depends on wether i get the baking done by then.

[phoenixgtr]

Ooooh baking. I'd love some cookies thanks!!

[KiwiPhoenix]

Yep, I'm in!

Bit bloody cold tho ... :cold:

:rofl: just wrap up!


What route are you thinking about doing?

Probably going to be stuck at work for a few more hours, but might try to catch up.

Now you are asking!!! Was thinking, only cause I like this route myself, was to go through the tunnel, up Evans and through Sumner, then take the ring road all the way round finishing at the Twisted Hop (or any other pub that you would like)


Yay finally a ride that I can attend

:woohoo:


I may met you at pub, depends on wether i get the baking done by then.

MMMmmmm baking, you do realise that if you come you now need to bring the baking with you!!! :laugh:

If you don't meet us at the car park, I will text you the pub we are going too! See ya soon!

[Flip]

Bugger and bum.

Just got home in time only to find I had taken the heated handle bar heaters off the scooter. I got the bike back together but not in time to catch up with you all.

P_

[KiwiPhoenix]

Bugger and bum.

Just got home in time only to find I had taken the heated handle bar heaters off the scooter. I got the bike back together but not in time to catch up with you all.

P_

Bugger!! Well, as it turned out there were 4 brave wee souls, myself, Gloplg, Peeteey and MaxF. By the time we got to the pub we were frozen, me thinks it's time to wear the winter gloves!!

[Peeteey]

Ive got a bike that has a very heavy engine in it. The engine needs removing so if lots of big strong guys can turn up on the 14th that would be great...

If I cant have big strong guys, lots and lots of little ones will do I suppose.

Wouldn't be the Kat, by any chance? I need the same thing done to mine so we can all practice on yours then do it properly on mine! :) Brilliant!

[JMemonic]

Ooooh baking. I'd love some cookies thanks!!

Cookies, wtf cookies! I dunno the corruption of Kiwi youth by the Americans out there, in this house they are biscuits, and I didn't get any either, she didn't bake any in the end.:no::cry:

[Spuds1234]

Wouldn't be the Kat, by any chance? I need the same thing done to mine so we can all practice on yours then do it properly on mine! :) Brilliant!

Sure is. The Kats going under the knife and getting a facelift and a bit of heart surgery. Its going to be mint when its done.

[Peeteey]

Sure is. The Kats going under the knife and getting a facelift and a bit of heart surgery. Its going to be mint when its done.

Mate, if we can do some more hardcore maintenance on these evenings sometimes then I have a list as long as my arm of things my beautiful Kat needs ... Look forward to seeing yours!

[Spuds1234]

Mate, if we can do some more hardcore maintenance on these evenings sometimes then I have a list as long as my arm of things my beautiful Kat needs ... Look forward to seeing yours!

Mines already in bits. Only things left on it really are the wheels, airbox, carbs, engine and exhaust. I figured that its a good time to take out the engine when there are lots of people around.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Mines already in bits. Only things left on it really are the wheels, airbox, carbs, engine and exhaust. I figured that its a good time to take out the engine when there are lots of people around.

Now this is going to be good! I saw lots of stuff last year but no where near as technical as this (says she that doesn't even know how to adjust her chain, despite seeing it done last year!) Ah well, time to learn I suppose!

Thanks to you guys last night for braving the cold, was a good ride despite the cold!

[neels]

If there are some projects required, I have the following that need doing......

Fork seals
Carb balancing
Painting a fuel tank
Repairing crash damaged fairings
Helicoiling a stripped bolt hole
Replacing a final drive seal
Splitting a crankcase to find the funny noise in 2nd gear

Given a bit of time I'm sure I can think of more...

[KiwiPhoenix]

If there are some projects required, I have the following that need doing......

Fork seals
Carb balancing
Painting a fuel tank
Repairing crash damaged fairings
Helicoiling a stripped bolt hole
Replacing a final drive seal
Splitting a crankcase to find the funny noise in 2nd gear

Given a bit of time I'm sure I can think of more...

I'll help with the painting of the fuel tank (when I manage to get all my basic stuff done) as for the rest, have no idea!

[Peeteey]

If there are some projects required, I have the following that need doing......

Fork seals
Carb balancing
Painting a fuel tank
Repairing crash damaged fairings
Helicoiling a stripped bolt hole
Replacing a final drive seal
Splitting a crankcase to find the funny noise in 2nd gear

Given a bit of time I'm sure I can think of more...

Snap! I could second almost all of those. I have, I think, a drive shaft bearing to replace. The bearing that the shaft the front sprocket sits on is making noises, I think ...
But that means pulling the engine and cracking the case. How hardcore do/can these evenings get?
First I have to fix the bolts that hold on the front wheel!
and then ...
and ...
also ...
Plus ...

:gob:

[phoenixgtr]

Just remember guys these aren't a chance to have someone else do your work for you for free. The workshop and tools are available (and the expertise) to help you out and to help you learn a bit more about your bike. Serious jobs like splitting a crankcase are probably a bit too much. Afterall, we'll only hang around for a couple of hours each week before heading to the pub!!

[Spuds1234]

Serious jobs like splitting a crankcase are probably a bit too much.

Thats why Im just enlisting help to get my engine out. If you get too many people doing to many things then you end up with parts going missing (nuts and bolts etc).

Should be a fun night.

[neels]

Just remember guys these aren't a chance to have someone else do your work for you for free. The workshop and tools are available (and the expertise) to help you out and to help you learn a bit more about your bike. Serious jobs like splitting a crankcase are probably a bit too much. Afterall, we'll only hang around for a couple of hours each week before heading to the pub!!
Perhaps I got a bit carried away :shit: :spanking::laugh:

But being serious for a change (it doesn't happen often), most of that list I can do myself at home, however if someone wanted a how to demo I could bring something along and do it there instead.

It would be good if I could borrow some vacuum gauges and bring the boy and his GSXR in to balance the carbs, and a loan of the tools to helicoil the stripped bolt hole in the head of my XL.

And yeah, splitting a crankcase and then chucking all the bits in a box to take it home is not an option, you needs to start with a nice clean bench and proceed in a orderly fashion or it ends badly.

[kerryhare]

Ooooh baking. I'd love some cookies thanks!!

What sort would you like?

[phoenixgtr]

Haha...why chocolate chip of course

[200BUSA]

[QUOTE=neels;1129711660]

It would be good if I could borrow some vacuum gauges and bring the boy and his GSXR in to balance the carbs, and a loan of the tools to helicoil the stripped bolt hole in the head of my XL.




I have got the gauges if needed.

[maxf]

Perhaps I got a bit carried away :shit: :spanking::laugh: ....

... you needs to start with a nice clean bench and proceed in a orderly fashion or it ends badly.

And remember Murphys law when applied to DIY
- any part you need will be far away enough to be a PITA (at home, dealer etc)
- any unit that can explosively self-dismantle will (ping!)
- a good day is when you find ONLY one OTHER thing wrong beyond the first issue you started working on
- things always become more fragile in front of an audience. This rate of increase in fragility is demonstrably related to their replacement cost and/or rarity
- batteries always go flat faster when totally separated from any vehicle under repair

Max

PS the XL250RC would be a trip down memory lane - my second bike, did a full crankcase split on that - then went from a Honda 250 single dual-purpose to a BMW 1000 four-pot full tourer... bit of culture shock to say the least!

[bkker]

Fork seals
Carb balancing
Painting a fuel tank
Repairing crash damaged fairings
I wouldn't mind either seeing how those are done or having help doing my own. How hard is it to "weld" plastic? Would the equiptment for it be there?
Also would there be 2 stands to secure the bike for working on a front wheel? I've got a friend who can loan me one, but to be stable I guess there'd need to be 2.

[neels]

PS the XL250RC would be a trip down memory lane - my second bike, did a full crankcase split on that -
Any pointers?

[bkker]

I'd be interested in seeing a crankcase split as well.
Is it common for bikes to have trouble changing into neutral? Compared to some other bikes I've ridden mine seems to really dislike finding neutral when parking up.

[kerryhare]

Haha...why chocolate chip of course

okky doky.

[Flip]

ummmmmmmm choky chippy ummmmmmmmm.

[maxf]

Any pointers?

God - I meant memory lane, that would be about 89, so only 21 yrs ago!

Did have issues with the cylinder head - bolts gone soft and remember the bottom of the case was well filthy, could have done with a lot more degreasing before I'd got in so deep... lots of deep bolt wells. IIRC had to go in from the head down as the cylinder/head bolts went thru into the bottom of the case, designed to crush the halves together.

Had to split for the output shaft seal - which Honda retains by casting a rib into the outside edge, so to fit properly you've got to split - you can't just "drive" it in, although the dealer did recommend just slicing the rib off, and driving in with Loctite to hold (after prying the old one out with the old drill-and-use-self-tappers-for-leverage trick).

Did work from the Clymers, wasn't any big surprises from that IIRC - but only went just enough to take the top off, dislodge that seal and get it back together!

PS - remembered too - get a full gasket set, you may as well do valve seals etc while you're in there...

[maxf]

I'd be interested in seeing a crankcase split as well.
Is it common for bikes to have trouble changing into neutral? Compared to some other bikes I've ridden mine seems to really dislike finding neutral when parking up.

Neutrals can be interesting - and Google is your friend... It could be a known quirk with your bike/engine/gearbox, either from new or as they age. Most gearbox designs use a spring-loaded "detent" (ball into a dimple, arm/roller into a cam notch) to provide the positive lock between 1 & 2 that is neutral - if the spring is weak, ball sticking or worn, or edges wearing off the recieving dimple/notch then you won't have a definite neutral.

Could also be a factor of your clutch too, if it's got a lot of drag (even when pulled in) - the input gearshaft never really spins down, so it's always got some momentum to contribute to an overshoot; wet clutches do have this to a degree. Again, check the basics as per the service manual and see what you can find....?

HTH

Max

[neels]

God - I meant memory lane, that would be about 89, so only 21 yrs ago!

Did have issues with the cylinder head - bolts gone soft and remember the bottom of the case was well filthy, could have done with a lot more degreasing before I'd got in so deep... lots of deep bolt wells. IIRC had to go in from the head down as the cylinder/head bolts went thru into the bottom of the case, designed to crush the halves together.

Had to split for the output shaft seal - which Honda retains by casting a rib into the outside edge, so to fit properly you've got to split - you can't just "drive" it in, although the dealer did recommend just slicing the rib off, and driving in with Loctite to hold (after prying the old one out with the old drill-and-use-self-tappers-for-leverage trick).

Did work from the Clymers, wasn't any big surprises from that IIRC - but only went just enough to take the top off, dislodge that seal and get it back together!

PS - remembered too - get a full gasket set, you may as well do valve seals etc while you're in there...
Sounds like a doddle then. :weep:

The man at the honda shop mentioned the change seal without splitting crankcase method, followed by a disclaimer that it never really works. That's why it's the winter project to pull the engine, fix the stripped bolt hole in the head, replace the final drive seal and find the horrible noise in second gear. Then hopefully I'll get years of trouble free service.

[maxf]

Sounds like a doddle then. :weep:

Have a chat on Weds night - I'm the old fart with the blue BMW; if you can get the engine out & clean then if you can get it around my place for a day on the weekend I can probably help, even if it's just some strange tools & a second opinion - full in-fix-out for me was a weekend from memory (and at least your engine is only about 30kg, not >100!!). You do have the Clymers, right?

[maxf]

General thought (then I'll shut up, I promise)....

I've got a second gearbox here for the BMW, partially dismantled and so taking up more room. Would anyone be interested in seeing what's what? - eg types of gears, bearings, how the gears engage, splines, circlips, how to fit & remove seals etc - while I slowly put it back together. I can also bring along the Haynes & Clymers manuals too, so anyone wondering what they're like can also have a look to see how they match up to reality and what sort of accuracy they give for involved stuff like this... probably a good thing to think of and be confident in before you think of doing any of your own work!!

Would that be an idea? Even if it just ends up as a look-see opportunity, no timetable for getting it sorted from my end, bits can just go back in the snap-loc bags if needs be (shouldn't get in the way of any others needing help, I can just play with my blocks in a corner!)

[Flip]

Well this is where I also put my hand up as well.

I had a couple GSX750ES(G)s which probably had the same DOHC motor as yours. Think I also have the manual somewhere. If anybody wants to use my workshop they are most welcome, I have a shit load of tools and a hydraulic bike stand, however I do live in Diamond Harbour.

[JMemonic]

Well this is where I also put my hand up as well.

I had a couple GSX750ES(G)s which probably had the same DOHC motor as yours. Think I also have the manual somewhere. If anybody wants to use my workshop they are most welcome, I have a shit load of tools and a hydraulic bike stand, however I do live in Diamond Harbour.

Interesting, I am looking at a project involving a 1981 GSX750e and may need a little info of that nature.

[Spuds1234]

Well this is where I also put my hand up as well.

I had a couple GSX750ES(G)s which probably had the same DOHC motor as yours. Think I also have the manual somewhere. If anybody wants to use my workshop they are most welcome, I have a shit load of tools and a hydraulic bike stand, however I do live in Diamond Harbour.

Did you have the 2nd gear problem with any of your engines? I have a manual to, both a hard copy and a .pdf. The electrical diagrams are a life saver.

[Flip]

No, it was not an easy bike to get into neutral if the oil was cold.

About the worst thing that happened to one of mine was the fuel emptied itself into the bottom of the sump and I ran a set of cams and followers.

[bkker]

I've got a second gearbox here for the BMW, partially dismantled and so taking up more room. Would anyone be interested in seeing what's what? - eg types of gears, bearings, how the gears engage, splines, circlips, how to fit & remove seals etc - while I slowly put it back together. I can also bring along the Haynes & Clymers manuals too, so anyone wondering what they're like can also have a look to see how they match up to reality and what sort of accuracy they give for involved stuff like this... probably a good thing to think of and be confident in before you think of doing any of your own work!!

I'd be interested in seeing that, all I really plan on doing at this WME is asking questions, taking off my front brake disk and watching others at work. I might bring some fiberglass and resin to the one after though.

[Guzza]

Cookies, wtf cookies! I dunno the corruption of Kiwi youth by the Americans out there, in this house they are biscuits, and I didn't get any either, she didn't bake any in the end.:no::cry:

Agreed, cookies should be biscuits, unless they are hash cookies.

[gloplg]

Went for a :ride: along the Summit Road today:D................... Wound up in Akaroa:owonder how that happened????

Anyone interested in seeing where I wind up next week???? Weather permitting of course!!!!!!

[Hurrie]

Went for a :ride: along the Summit Road today:D................... Wound up in Akaroa:owonder how that happened????

Anyone interested in seeing where I wind up next week???? Weather permitting of course!!!!!!

yeah i'm pretty keen on going for a bit of a ride on my new bike!!

And i need to change my break pads if someone can help with that, that would be awesome

[Hurrie]

I'd be interested in seeing a crankcase split as well.
Is it common for bikes to have trouble changing into neutral? Compared to some other bikes I've ridden mine seems to really dislike finding neutral when parking up.

My bike has the some trouble changing into neutral sometimes aswell, maybe its a cbr problem?

p.s. Thanks for the help friday night!!! bike's a hell of alot smoother.

[Mr Triple]

Went for a :ride: along the Summit Road today:D................... Wound up in Akaroa:owonder how that happened????

Anyone interested in seeing where I wind up next week???? Weather permitting of course!!!!!!

I will be keen if I don't have to work next Saturday.



And i need to change my break pads if someone can help with that, that would be awesome

Come along on Wednesday, there is bound to be someone who can help :)

[bikee chick]

Yay....need major help in this area....can we please do how to oil the chain on the first night.....LOL no really, i don't know what or how to do it.....No I am not blonde...just new to bikes....hahahah

[maxf]

Wound up in Akaroa :o wonder how that happened????

Your sense of direction has become as bad as mine?


Anyone interested in seeing where I wind up next week???? Weather permitting of course!!!!!!

Depends on finding this "slow" leak ... until then I'm just commuting, sadly (and draining the rear swingarm, grr!)

[fireliv]

Yay....need major help in this area....can we please do how to oil the chain on the first night.....LOL no really, i don't know what or how to do it.....No I am not blonde...just new to bikes....hahahah

Good on ya for asking for help! Buy some lube and someone will show you how to put it on..........(sorry couldnt resist sinking into gutter)

[helenoftroy]

This one-handed, non-riding,impatient, rather grumpy one will come on Wednesday and crack the whip till pub time!:spanking::devil2:

[Peeteey]

This one-handed, non-riding,impatient, rather grumpy one will come on Wednesday and crack the whip till pub time!:spanking::devil2:

One handed? What's happened to you HOT? Hope nothing too nasty...


Went for a :ride: along the Summit Road today:D................... Wound up in Akaroa:owonder how that happened????

Anyone interested in seeing where I wind up next week???? Weather permitting of course!!!!!!

Absolutely, always up for a jaunt. Let me know where and when!


Well this is where I also put my hand up as well.

I had a couple GSX750ES(G)s which probably had the same DOHC motor as yours. Think I also have the manual somewhere. If anybody wants to use my workshop they are most welcome, I have a shit load of tools and a hydraulic bike stand, however I do live in Diamond Harbour.

I'll definitely be taking you and Max up on your kind offers of help at some point, and things are made all the easier seeing as you're just over the pond from me ...


General thought (then I'll shut up, I promise)....

I've got a second gearbox here for the BMW, partially dismantled and so taking up more room. Would anyone be interested in seeing what's what? - eg types of gears, bearings, how the gears engage, splines, circlips, how to fit & remove seals etc - while I slowly put it back together. I can also bring along the Haynes & Clymers manuals too, so anyone wondering what they're like can also have a look to see how they match up to reality and what sort of accuracy they give for involved stuff like this... probably a good thing to think of and be confident in before you think of doing any of your own work!!

Would that be an idea? Even if it just ends up as a look-see opportunity, no timetable for getting it sorted from my end, bits can just go back in the snap-loc bags if needs be (shouldn't get in the way of any others needing help, I can just play with my blocks in a corner!)

I'd love to! I love blocks! ;)

[bkker]

And i need to change my break pads if someone can help with that, that would be awesome

Brake pads on disk brakes are really easy to change, I'm busy for most of the day tomorrow but come over before 2pm and I can give you a hand if you want.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Yay....need major help in this area....can we please do how to oil the chain on the first night.....LOL no really, i don't know what or how to do it.....No I am not blonde...just new to bikes....hahahah

I also need my chain adjusted and lubed so we can do it together (ok that should get everyone in a spin! :rofl:)

[bikee chick]

I also need my chain adjusted and lubed so we can do it together (ok that should get everyone in a spin! :rofl:)

oohhh I think that if we bring the lube Fireliv should apply it....hhahahahah that will get them going.....

[KiwiPhoenix]

oohhh I think that if we bring the lube Fireliv should apply it....hhahahahah that will get them going.....

:rofl: yes indeedy!

[Mr Triple]

We can't make it along for the first WMN, hope to be along next week though :)

[gloplg]

This one-handed, non-riding,impatient, rather grumpy one will come on Wednesday and crack the whip till pub time!:spanking::devil2:

HOT Lady what have you been doing to yourself????? Would riding pillion ease the grumpyness and impatience????

[helenoftroy]

One handed? What's happened to you HOT? Hope nothing too nasty...




HOT Lady what have you been doing to yourself????? Would riding pillion ease the grumpyness and impatience????

Had Carpal Tunnel surgery on left hand last Thursday,will be weeks before I can ride again....then the other hand will be done....:weep:

Retroqueen will take me out when I have enough strength to hold on!:devil2:

[neels]

Retroqueen will take me out when I have enough strength to hold on!:devil2:
So it will be a while then :eek:

Hope roger is looking after you well.

[helenoftroy]

So it will be a while then :eek:

Hope roger is looking after you well.

Retro said she'd be gentle!:innocent:

Only one hand out of action so fortunately that dirty devil Rogers services were not required...:yeah:

[fireliv]

Bugger it looks Luke Phoenix and I will not be along.... Family visits!! Have fun with lube

[phoenixgtr]

Bugger it looks Luke Phoenix and I will not be along.... Family visits!! Have fun with lube

Who's Luke Phoenix? He sounds american

[JMemonic]

Working this week, next week maybe.

[gloplg]

To all you WNRers who are interested, Flip and I are looking at running a ride on Saturdays, weather permitting. It will follow the tried and trusted WNR format.

We are looking at a 10am start, from BK Moorehouse, and pottering off somewhere for lunch in the WNR fashion.

All those who wish to join us will be very welcome, newer riders most welcome.


Any queries please phone me 366 5593.

See you Saturday. Garry

[kerryhare]

To all you WNRers who are interested, Flip and I are looking at running a ride on Saturdays, weather permitting. It will follow the tried and trusted WNR format.

We are looking at a 10am start, from BK Moorehouse, and pottering off somewhere for lunch in the WNR fashion.

All those who wish to join us will be very welcome, newer riders most welcome.


Any queries please phone me 366 5593.

See you Saturday. Garry


That sounds good I may come along if I can.

[Peeteey]

To all you WNRers who are interested, Flip and I are looking at running a ride on Saturdays, weather permitting. It will follow the tried and trusted WNR format.

We are looking at a 10am start, from BK Moorehouse, and pottering off somewhere for lunch in the WNR fashion.

All those who wish to join us will be very welcome, newer riders most welcome.


Any queries please phone me 366 5593.

See you Saturday. Garry



:shit: Why so EARLY Garry? :shit:

It won't stop me trying but it may well keep me from being able to ride. I finish late friday night, Saturday morning really, and as such, never get to sleep before 4-5am-ish.
It's hard to balance when only one eye wants to work :)

I'll be there if I can ... Especially if lunch is at Flip's house! :D

[gloplg]

:shit: Why so EARLY Garry? :shit:

It won't stop me trying but it may well keep me from being able to ride. I finish late friday night, Saturday morning really, and as such, never get to sleep before 4-5am-ish.
It's hard to balance when only one eye wants to work :)

I'll be there if I can ... Especially if lunch is at Flip's house! :D

I thought all you BM drivers were one eyed!!!!!:rofl::rofl: Particularly the ones that drive christmas trees!!!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm................I know what I said, but what I meant was, Meeting at BK at 10.00, and as a special favour to Pete, departing at 10.31.

If we don't see you on Saturday Pete we will stop outside your place and have a mass revup as your wakeup call!!!!:dodge::lol::lol:

[KiwiPhoenix]

:shit: Why so EARLY Garry? :shit:

It won't stop me trying but it may well keep me from being able to ride. I finish late friday night, Saturday morning really, and as such, never get to sleep before 4-5am-ish.
It's hard to balance when only one eye wants to work :)

I'll be there if I can ... Especially if lunch is at Flip's house! :D

:rofl: I wouldn't worry too much Peeteey, there will probably be a few late riders as well (me being one of them!)

Lunch at Flip's house sounds good, I'm in for that!!!! :laugh:

[McWild]

Had Carpal Tunnel surgery on left hand last Thursday,will be weeks before I can ride again....then the other hand will be done....:weep:

Retroqueen will take me out when I have enough strength to hold on!:devil2:

If you're keen to be on the Ducati again I don't mind riding it and you can pillion.

I'm such a good friend that all you'll have to pay is petrol.

How about that!

[imdying]

Went for a :ride: along the Summit Road today:D................... Wound up in Akaroa:owonder how that happened????Turned left instead of right :laugh:

[bikee chick]

To all you WNRers who are interested, Flip and I are looking at running a ride on Saturdays, weather permitting. It will follow the tried and trusted WNR format.

We are looking at a 10am start, from BK Moorehouse, and pottering off somewhere for lunch in the WNR fashion.

All those who wish to join us will be very welcome, newer riders most welcome.


Any queries please phone me 366 5593.

See you Saturday. Garry

Oh that sounds wonderful, I am in when I can, always looking to do as much riding as i can on the weekend. let me know when you are starting these.
Tan

[helenoftroy]

If you're keen to be on the Ducati again I don't mind riding it and you can pillion.

I'm such a good friend that all you'll have to pay is petrol.

How about that!
:killingme:killingme:killingme

...and I thought I only had one teenage boy that could get away with that spiel???:scratch:

[Peeteey]

If we don't see you on Saturday Pete we will stop outside your place and have a mass revup as your wakeup call!!!!:dodge::lol::lol:

You know what Garry, that'd be a nice way to wake up :yes:
Maybe that's a good plan. If you think you'd be coming this way I could join you from here.
Or you could all stop in for a coffee ... :apint:

[neels]

...and I thought I only had one teenage boy that could get away with that spiel???:scratch:
I was going to offer my services if the Ducati needed some 'exercise' too, but at least I'd have the decency to pay for my own gas ;)

[sammcj]

To all you WNRers who are interested, Flip and I are looking at running a ride on Saturdays, weather permitting. It will follow the tried and trusted WNR format.

We are looking at a 10am start, from BK Moorehouse, and pottering off somewhere for lunch in the WNR fashion.
All those who wish to join us will be very welcome, newer riders most welcome.
Any queries please phone me 366 5593.
See you Saturday. Garry

Great idea!
Wouldn't it be better to do this at say 1PM~ though?
That way:

-The roads have warmed up and are ice-free going forward.
-People get to sleep in after their Friday night / Week at work.
-Those working morning shifts on Saturdays (aka. People that work at bike shops!) would be able to join.
-People don't have to have lunch out!

Sorry to butt-in!

[Peeteey]

Great idea!
Wouldn't it be better to do this at say 1PM~ though?
That way:

-The roads have warmed up and are ice-free going forward.
-People get to sleep in after their Friday night / Week at work.
-Those working morning shifts on Saturdays (aka. People that work at bike shops!) would be able to join.
-People don't have to have lunch out!

Sorry to butt-in!

Ja, I agree, would suit me better and that's the most important thing! :lol:

[Spuds1234]

Got the engine out of the Kat on Wednesday night. A huge thanks to all who helped (with advice and lifting). I couldnt have done it without your help

[200BUSA]

Great idea!
Wouldn't it be better to do this at say 1PM~ though?
That way:

-The roads have warmed up and are ice-free going forward.
-People get to sleep in after their Friday night / Week at work.
-Those working morning shifts on Saturdays (aka. People that work at bike shops!) would be able to join.
-People don't have to have lunch out!

Sorry to butt-in!

So Sam are you coming on our Anzac day ride to Kaikoura?






www.lincrabikewear.co.nz

[maxf]

So what's really happening - 10am, 10:30, 1pm?... Just trying to work out if I can get the oil leak fixed by 10 or not... Peetey, if you want a ride you can always come help sort out all those electronics bits...!

Max

[Flip]

1000 at BK for a 1030 depature.

GP and myself wanted to do this ride with lunch some where nice, just for social reasons.

Going to Akaroa might try the fish and chips there on the beach.

[Peeteey]

So what's really happening - 10am, 10:30, 1pm?... Just trying to work out if I can get the oil leak fixed by 10 or not... Peetey, if you want a ride you can always come help sort out all those electronics bits...!

Max

Ah, I completely forgot. Yep, would love to! What sort of time are you thinking? I'll try to be awake early enough to at least go say g'day to the Sat morning riders then, once they go, come help out.
My home number is on my profile page, my cell doesn't work out here but is fine once I'm in town. Maybe give me a yell just before 9.30 and we'll take it from there. I'll check back here before I go just in case.

Coolio,

Pete

[Peeteey]

1000 at BK for a 1030 depature.

GP and myself wanted to do this ride with lunch some where nice, just for social reasons.

Going to Akaroa might try the fish and chips there on the beach.

I'll probably not join as:
A) It's probably too early for me for a big ride
B) I went for a great ride out that way with Transalper today
and C) I'll be helping Max with electronic bits, unless he wants to go for a ride too in which case I may join you all if I get a good nights sleep.
Am still wound up after gig ...

[sammcj]

So Sam are you coming on our Anzac day ride to Kaikoura?

www.lincrabikewear.co.nz

Evening!

I won't be able to make it I'm on call for work I'm sorry to say!
Thanks for the invite however.

-Sam.

[bkker]

Has anybody done fiberglass and resin fixes on their bike before? Someone I know is letting me use their supplies but I'm not sure what to do with it yet. Should I buy sandpaper and primer or something as well?

[maxf]

Should I buy sandpaper and primer or something as well?

I'd guess yes on the sandpaper and probably some disposable gloves too! Primer - probably afterwards, get a disposable dust mask or two as well (goggles probably good too for later sanding stages - all assumes you're sanding back the FG to paint, but maybe not if it's all hidden?)

Also - haven't done any FG but would guess it's like normal body-bog when it comes down to it - it's a glue, if you put glue over an unstable/weak layer (the paint!) with nothing to "key" to then eventually they'll separate. Would also guess that epoxy on some plastics will never be strong; you might be up for checking if wiring (drill holes & recessing channels into **outside** of the panel, spanning the crack, so you can run wires to lace-up the crack - tight on the dressy side, so they can go in under the bog/filler, loose on the back so the epoxy can have something to set around) ... all depends on the panel in question!! (And you could end up making it too strong and getting stress elsewhere, who knows).

Might have some generic info on it, are you along on Weds?

Max

Extra: try Google "fibreglass diy repair"

http://www.diy-fiberglass-repair.com/repair-fiberglass.html - good safety tips
http://www.sportrider.com/suspension_settings/hands_on/146_9510_damaged_bodywork_repair/index.html
(but http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0204_body/ is very comprehensive on repairing plastic ABS covers!!)

[gloplg]

Here are some photos of Flips new machine. I had a ride in the sidechair on Saturday, was great thanks Flip.

[JMemonic]

Here are some photos of Flips new machine. I had a ride in the sidechair on Saturday, was great thanks Flip.

Kerry wants a trip in the chair, that is if Ted has not worked out its a good way for him to go out with dad for the day.

[KiwiPhoenix]

:laugh: seems there is a few peeps want a go! I'm also in line for a turn!

[kerryhare]

Here are some photos of Flips new machine. I had a ride in the sidechair on Saturday, was great thanks Flip.

What an awesome looking machine. I so want a ride in the sidecar.

[KiwiPhoenix]

What an awesome looking machine. I so want a ride in the sidecar.

:laugh: hey Flip, you could charge for it!

[gloplg]

:laugh: hey Flip, you could charge for it!

Now there is a way to make Squillions Flip.:rofl::rofl:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Now there is a way to make Squillions Flip.:rofl::rofl:

YEAH RIGHT! (as the ad goes!):rofl:

[imdying]

Has anybody done fiberglass and resin fixes on their bike before? Someone I know is letting me use their supplies but I'm not sure what to do with it yet. Should I buy sandpaper and primer or something as well?A little, what are you trying to accomplish? (probably better off starting a thread in the maintenance section, it's a long complicated topic).

[phoenixgtr]

I have a bike AND spare time this Wednesday so I should be along

[Flip]

I will be there tonight.

Bike needs an oil change, finally got 500 km up on it.

[maxf]

Bike needs an oil change, finally got 500 km up on it.

Bring a magnet & make interesting shapes? :innocent:

[Flip]

I have been checking it and it looks clear of ferrous particles.

Think I will take a sample and send for analysis.

[Booswap]

Cheers for the help last week the new sprocket is working like a charm. Heaps more power and the front now likes to see whats happening in the sky it seems. I'll see you all again tonight with the partner to give anyone a hand. Oh and to have a few brewskis.

[gloplg]

Some pics from tonight

[maxf]

can't resist....


Think I will take a sample and send for analysis.

Radiocarbon dating? :yes:

Seriously, looked good...

[bkker]

all assumes you're sanding back the FG to paint, but maybe not if it's all hidden?)

True, I could perhaps get away with only doing the inside.


Also - haven't done any FG but would guess it's like normal body-bog when it comes down to it - it's a glue, if you put glue over an unstable/weak layer (the paint!) with nothing to "key" to then eventually they'll separate. Would also guess that epoxy on some plastics will never be strong; you might be up for checking if wiring (drill holes & recessing channels into **outside** of the panel, spanning the crack, so you can run wires to lace-up the crack - tight on the dressy side, so they can go in under the bog/filler, loose on the back so the epoxy can have something to set around) ... all depends on the panel in question!! (And you could end up making it too strong and getting stress elsewhere, who knows).

Great idea! dunno how much of it will show through, it'll be hard to completely cover threads on the outside.


Might have some generic info on it, are you along on Weds?

Wasn't able to make it this week (or last week for that matter), but I plan on coming to the next one.


Max

Extra: try Google "fibreglass diy repair"

http://www.diy-fiberglass-repair.com/repair-fiberglass.html - good safety tips
http://www.sportrider.com/suspension_settings/hands_on/146_9510_damaged_bodywork_repair/index.html
(but http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0204_body/ is very comprehensive on repairing plastic ABS covers!!)

Thanks for all the great advice!

[KiwiPhoenix]

Thanks Flip for letting me ride pillion (is it still called this when it's the side car??) in the side car!!

Nice pics Gloplg!

[maxf]

... it'll be hard to completely cover threads on the outside.

That's why you countersink them into slots on the "trim" side, so your body filler can cover them... diagrams & finger puppets on Weds night?? <grin>

[grusomhat]

Finally worked out today why my bike has been making a god awful crunching noise and yet having no problems running or changing gears. Bloody chain is loose, really loose. I'll give the bike a wash this week and come along Wednesday. Are there tools available for such a simple task or will I need to bring some? which I don't have.

[Spuds1234]

Pretty sure we can find you a spanner or two. Maybe even a socket.

Turn up on Wednesday night and dont be afraid to get your hands dirty and we will have your bike going better than new in no time.

[Peeteey]

:laugh: seems there is a few peeps want a go! I'm also in line for a turn!

Me too! I've never been in a sidecar. I've broken one but never ridden in one ...

[Peeteey]

Hey Spuds, I've finally got the forks repaired on the Kat, now I just need to put her all back together and hope that worn bearing noise I heard was just my imagination!

Love the avatar by the way. "More Cowbell!"

[Dave-]

wont be along tonight chaps, physics, light and waves n all that, ya know?

[phoenixgtr]

Nor will I it seems

[Retroqueen]

Matt and I will be along tonight....... No indicators and a busted headlight arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh see you there

[kerryhare]

I wont be there either, i will be tucked up in bed with my box of tissues. Have fun. JM will be there.

[BADGRL]

Wuh oh! what have you done now Retroqueen?! rofl. I so need to pop down one night, will have to bring the ol' girl for a spin! lol... no laughing :D

[maxf]

Matt and I will be along tonight....... No indicators and a busted headlight arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh see you there

Did you get it fixed? If not, give me a shout - can do the electronics hacky thingy at home if you want to drop around for a while...

[maxf]

OK - good night until all youse guys that know where the F&C shop are sod off so fast all of us "lost buggers" are left...

So - for the record - where is the chippie?

[fireliv]

OK - good night until all youse guys that know where the F&C shop are sod off so fast all of us "lost buggers" are left...

So - for the record - where is the chippie?

Its in Sol Square- You access it off a alley way on Mancester street- Just past the Litchfield street/mancester street intersection. Can park bikes right outside off that alley way.

[KiwiPhoenix]

I wont be there either, i will be tucked up in bed with my box of tissues. Have fun. JM will be there.

Hope you feel better soon chick!


OK - good night until all youse guys that know where the F&C shop are sod off so fast all of us "lost buggers" are left...

So - for the record - where is the chippie?

Sorry, I zipped away so I could get a parking space. As it turned out there weren't many there tonight at the Chip shop.

I suppose I should do some maintenance and not stand aboout holding lights although I'm rather good at it!

[maxf]

I suppose I should do some maintenance and not stand aboout holding lights although I'm rather good at it!

You light up our lives? :laugh: :yes:
And - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" - does really apply (and does save you money!).

[JMemonic]

I suppose I should do some maintenance and not stand aboout holding lights although I'm rather good at it!

I recall someone saying she was going to do some lubrication at the maintenance evening, I am not looking at anyone in particular :innocent:

[jim.cox]

Arrr Fugg It

Was hoping to front up to some of these sessions

But No, I find the Mrs has booked us into some dodgy "marriage course" being run by her God-bothering Jewish-Zombie-Cult mates

And there is NO escape :( sigh

[KiwiPhoenix]

I recall someone saying she was going to do some lubrication at the maintenance evening, I am not looking at anyone in particular :innocent:

I know, I know!! It'll keep till next week! :rofl:


Arrr Fugg It

Was hoping to front up to some of these sessions

But No, I find the Mrs has booked us into some dodgy "marriage course" being run by her God-bothering Jewish-Zombie-Cult mates

And there is NO escape :( sigh

Bugger!


You light up our lives? :laugh: :yes:
And - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" - does really apply (and does save you money!).

Why thank you! :laugh:

[neels]

But No, I find the Mrs has booked us into some dodgy "marriage course" being run by her God-bothering Jewish-Zombie-Cult mates
You just need to convince her that more sex and more motorcycle maintenance improves a marriage.

[JAS-1100]

hi I have a 1988 1100F suzuki I will Be dropping a 1993 GSXR1100 Engine in it this would be good for a maintenance evening for the advanced people and need to do some cast alu welding at the same time i can teach people to cast alu weld as well and the gear to cast alu weld will cost about $100 very sample to do something a have discovered

[cruza]

You just need to convince her that more sex and more motorcycle maintenance improves a marriage.

Your on too it neels , don't forget bout the rallies as well.............:woohoo:

anyway ........ you shouted ya steed a new chain and spockets yet?

[gloplg]

For all of you who are like me and not computer whizes but would like to see the Satrides thread try the following address.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/122045-Saturday-Winter-(not-the-WNR)

Drag it to your windows desktop and stay up to date with what is happening. Or not as the case may be.

[Flip]

Hi

FYI

I sent a sample of the oil from the first oil change to Goughs for testing. It came back with what you would expect. The iron, silicon, chrome, copper and aluminium levels were all high. This bike only has a very basic oil slinger-type filter. The lab correctly identified to run the bike for another 20 hours and resample the oil.

P_



DETAILS
Lab No Eval Date Sampled Date Received Meter Read Fluid Hours Fluid Added Fluid Changed
G100411645 C 22-Apr-2010 28-Apr-2010 500 0 0.00 Y



ELEMENT TESTS
Lab No Eval Cu Fe Cr Pb Al Si Na Sn Mo Ni Mg Zn Ca P B Ba Cd Mn Ag Ti V K
G100411645 C 56 372 99 3 71 112 16 1 4 0 677 1338 440 1088 2 7 0 5 0 2 0 6



LUBRICANT TESTS
Lab No Eval W NIT GLY F ST SUL OXI DEP V100 V40 PQ TAN TBN Flash AW Gly % H2O
G100411645 C 14.8 6 0 0.00 2 15 8 - - 90.4 - - - - - - -

Running in oil. Insufficient information supplied on the label to accurately interpret this sample.Please supply the hours on the oil. The iron, silicon, chrome, copper and aluminium levels arehigh. What fuel is this motor cycle running on ? As the oil has been changed resample in20 hours to monitor the trend. If assistance is required phone John (03) 9433153. Rapid Results. Expert Friendly Advice. Its what we do.

[phoenixgtr]

I think you scared everyone away with all that technical jargon Flip. It's been really quiet round here this week.

I might be along tonight for a bit, although I'm bikeless at the moment (ignoring the 2 race bikes, the SV and the shed full of bike parts). The CBR's gone away to be put back together. She should be like new next week. Yay!!

[gloplg]

I think you scared everyone away with all that technical jargon Flip. It's been really quiet round here this week.

I might be along tonight for a bit, although I'm bikeless at the moment (ignoring the 2 race bikes, the SV and the shed full of bike parts). The CBR's gone away to be put back together. She should be like new next week. Yay!!

Good to hear you are getting your bike fixed, hope to see you tonight.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Quite a nice turnout tonight! Bloody cold though!

[gloplg]

:cold::cold:Cold who was cold?????

Anyway the executive of the "Saturday Ride" met tonight and after long discussions and deep thought, it was decided to set the meet time forward by an hour and a half to 11.30 with the departure time being 12.00. This still gives us the opportunity to go to a cafe or pub for lunch and a chat, which was the origional idea behind the SatRides.

Akaroa this week???????

And now for something completely different.

It has come to my attention that people were seen actually grinning tonight at the Wednesday Maintenance Evening. Unless they were grimacing with terror at Flip's driving style????? What think the crew???:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[KiwiPhoenix]

I was cold!! Well, my hands were...

Great pics Gloplg! I definitely think it was the Grin factor, now to set up the "Sidecar Club" :laugh:

[Flip]

Quite a nice turnout tonight! Bloody cold though!

I was actually colder going into town, riding home is wasn't too bad, even in an open face.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Also to add, last week I took some photos of Gloplg, Peeteey, Dave, Flip and RetroQueen with the Guides doll, do you have any objections to me putting them up on Facebook??

[Peeteey]

Nice to see you all tonight ...

Saw a great sight on the way home, wondering if you noticed it Flip. Did you look to your left when waiting at the lights on the corner of Manchester and Moorhouse?
Wish I had the camera ...
A 4x4 ute came out of the PacknSave car park. Instead of lifting all the shopping out of the trolley and putting it in the back of the ute, they simply lifted the entire trolley into the back and off they went!
I followed them all down Moorhouse, I was waiting for the bananas bouncing round on the top to fly off ...
At least they had a healthy diet by the looks of it. :)

[Flip]

Also to add, last week I took some photos of Gloplg, Peeteey, Dave, Flip and RetroQueen with the Guides doll, do you have any objections to me putting them up on Facebook??

No

bla bla bla 10 cha

[Peeteey]

Also to add, last week I took some photos of Gloplg, Peeteey, Dave, Flip and RetroQueen with the Guides doll, do you have any objections to me putting them up on Facebook??

Nope, so long as I get some kickbacks from the royalties ... ;)
Normally I get the big bucks for a photo shoot ... :rockon:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Nice to see you all tonight ...

Saw a great sight on the way home, wondering if you noticed it Flip. Did you look to your left when waiting at the lights on the corner of Manchester and Moorhouse?
Wish I had the camera ...
A 4x4 ute came out of the PacknSave car park. Instead of lifting all the shopping out of the trolley and putting it in the back of the ute, they simply lifted the entire trolley into the back and off they went!
I followed them all down Moorhouse, I was waiting for the bananas bouncing round on the top to fly off ...
At least they had a healthy diet by the looks of it. :)

Obviously needed the trolley to make a BBQ!! Although I would imagine that would have been quite a sight


No

bla bla bla 10 cha


Nope, so long as I get some kickbacks from the royalties ... ;)
Normally I get the big bucks for a photo shoot ... :rockon:

Thanks guys! Peeteey, will sort out the deal with you soon! :rofl:

[Peeteey]

Peeteey, will sort out the deal with you soon! :rofl:

Righto, get your people to call my people ...


Looks like Sat is gonna be raining ... :(

[KiwiPhoenix]

Righto, get your people to call my people ...

Will do, are the terms still the same or do we have to increase the cupcake number?? :laugh:

[gloplg]

Will do, are the terms still the same or do we have to increase the cupcake number?? :laugh:

Yes please make some gluten free ones.:bleh::lol::lol:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Yes please make some gluten free ones.:bleh::lol::lol:

Will have a bash at this, but you may have to wait till I perfect them!

[Flip]

Will have a bash at this, but you may have to wait till I perfect them!

I vote me to test them

[KiwiPhoenix]

I vote me to test them

Done! :laugh:

[Flip]

Well I'm waiting!

Its been an hour.

[Shadowjack]

Well I'm waiting!

Its been an hour.
Patience, slightly older Grasshopper....

[Flip]

Nooooooo! I want. I want. I want.

[Shadowjack]

All about me, isn't it. That wasn't a stamping foot, was it, young man...

[KiwiPhoenix]

Yes please make some gluten free ones.:bleh::lol::lol:


I vote me to test them


Well I'm waiting!

Its been an hour.


Patience, slightly older Grasshopper....


Nooooooo! I want. I want. I want.


All about me, isn't it. That wasn't a stamping foot, was it, young man...

Now Sensei Slightly Older Grasshopper, I promise you that I will have many, many cupcakes (gluten free and ordinary ones) for everyone on Wed night but you must be patient, isn't that what you teach me Sensei?? :rofl: :laugh:

[gloplg]

Now Sensei Slightly Older Grasshopper, I promise you that I will have many, many cupcakes (gluten free and ordinary ones) for everyone on Wed night but you must be patient, isn't that what you teach me Sensei?? :rofl: :laugh:

OHHHH Yummmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can hardly wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way KP!!!!!!! What happened to you on Saturday......Hmmmmmmmmmm...

[KiwiPhoenix]

OHHHH Yummmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can hardly wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way KP!!!!!!! What happened to you on Saturday......Hmmmmmmmmmm...

Sorry my dear, had a better offer from my darling daughter (she had to have help to buy me a mothers day present) :rofl:

[cruza]

Now Sensei Slightly Older Grasshopper, I promise you that I will have many, many cupcakes (gluten free and ordinary ones) for everyone on Wed night but you must be patient, isn't that what you teach me Sensei?? :rofl: :laugh:

Man have to make the effort to be there this week , mmmm cupcakes:love:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Man have to make the effort to be there this week , mmmm cupcakes:love:

Seems that I may have to make more than I thought!!!! :laugh:

[cruza]

Seems that I may have to make more than I thought!!!! :laugh:

happy to swap a oil change for cupcakes..........:yes:

[KiwiPhoenix]

happy to swap a oil change for cupcakes..........:yes:

I'll hold you to that! :laugh:

[Flip]

happy to swap a oil change for cupcakes..........:yes:

I wish I had thought of that.

[KiwiPhoenix]

I wish I had thought of that.

How about you help me with my headlight adjustment then??

[Flip]

Thats almost toooooo easy.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Thats almost toooooo easy.

I know, but thats really the only thing that I need to fix on the bike. :laugh: Just have to let me ride in the sidecar more!! Will get round to doing a service courtesy of Cruza and the cupcakes soon!

[cruza]

I'll hold you to that! :laugh:

cool , love this new barter system:yes:

[KiwiPhoenix]

cool , love this new barter system:yes:

:yes: everyone wins!! :laugh:

[stevewederell]

Hate to clog up the thread but is anyone planning on any maintenance tonight?

[been_there]

Hate to clog up the thread but is anyone planning on any maintenance tonight?

LMAO 10 Chars

[Flip]

Ummmm. just wheeled the bike out and found the tire was flat. 45 min to fix it and Mrs Flip is now cooking dinner. I might come out in a short while, if the weather stays warmish.

[gloplg]

Ummmm. just wheeled the bike out and found the tire was flat. 45 min to fix it and Mrs Flip is now cooking dinner. I might come out in a short while, if the weather stays warmish.:eek::eek:

Oh well I guess thats why we didn't see you then.

Quite a good turnout again tonight and the chips were good!!!!

[helenoftroy]

Good to catch up with everyone & great to be riding again!...

Thanks for the help with the levers & lowering the DR guys:hug:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Good pics again Gloplg. Great one of Peeteey :rofl:

Headlight is now working great, can actually see where everything is!! :laugh:

[Flip]

So where did you get to in the end? Got to the F+C bar at 845 and no one was there.

Peeteey looks a little deranged.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Was getting cold (I know we are wimps) and I had to get away sharp, got myself stuff I need to do tonight, got a few articles to write tonight.

[KiwiPhoenix]

I agree that Peeteey looks strange but he usually does! :laugh:

[Peeteey]

Peeteey looks a little deranged.


I agree that Peeteey looks strange but he usually does! :laugh:

And I was just about to congratulate you on your amazing cupcakes too! Huh! The cheek of it all ... ;)

[KiwiPhoenix]

And I was just about to congratulate you on your amazing cupcakes too! Huh! The cheek of it all ... ;)

:rofl:


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[cruza]

And I was just about to congratulate you on your amazing cupcakes too! Huh! The cheek of it all ... ;)

Bet they were awesome .:yes: . Had to give it a miss last nite , long day at work ,was tea and spend some time with my son.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Bet they were awesome .:yes: . Had to give it a miss last nite , long day at work ,was tea and spend some time with my son.

Well, they did go down a treat, didn't take long before they were gone!

[Peeteey]

Bet they were awesome .:yes: . Had to give it a miss last nite , long day at work ,was tea and spend some time with my son.

They were awesome but it sounds like you had a quality evening too, good all round then.

With much kindness from the host I'll be bringing the Kat in next Wed. Having issues with the front wheel.
One of the brake lines had a nick in it so am replacing them tomorrow with Braded lines from Safe R Brakes, while I'm there and just to be sure.
They cost about the same as the bike! Well, maybe minus a decimal point ...

So sort the wheel, put in new brake fluid then I'm hoping someone can ride it and listen to a noise I've been told could be an output shaft bearing on its way out.

Looking forward to it! :yes: :Punk:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Looking forward to seeing this bike!!

[Flip]

Well, they did go down a treat, didn't take long before they were gone!

Whimper whimper, says the big hairy biker.

This leather clad tinker bell missed out on the fairy cakes.

Time for a colorful metaphor!

[KiwiPhoenix]

Whimper whimper, says the big hairy biker.

This leather clad tinker bell missed out on the fairy cakes.

Time for a colorful metaphor!

I think you just gave us it, "leather clad tinker bell"

I promise to have more next week and I'll save you one!

[Flip]

I could even stretch to biologically impossible metaphor for fairy cakes.

[KiwiPhoenix]

I could even stretch to biologically impossible metaphor for fairy cakes.

:rofl: I've already gotten into trouble due to cupcakes!!!

[gloplg]

Whimper whimper, says the big hairy biker.

This leather clad tinker bell missed out on the fairy cakes.

Time for a colorful metaphor!

You're a woose. :bleh::lol::lol::lol:

Art on a plate forsooth!!!!!!!!!! As I remember it, it was your idea to go to cafe 51!!!!!!!!

Anyway if you bring the BMer on Saturday you could take HOT Lady to Oxford and save her pain from her war wound!! :2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[gloplg]

:rofl: I've already gotten into trouble due to cupcakes!!!

Do tell sweety???????????????

You could always make Flip some cupcakes for Saturday morning.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Do tell sweety???????????????

You could always make Flip some cupcakes for Saturday morning.

No chance!! Thats between me and this particular person (they know who they are!!) :rofl:

[Flip]

You're a woose. :bleh::lol::lol::lol:

Art on a plate forsooth!!!!!!!!!! As I remember it, it was your idea to go to cafe 51!!!!!!!!

Anyway if you bring the BMer on Saturday you could take HOT Lady to Oxford and save her pain from her war wound!! :2thumbsup:2thumbsup

Health food and nouveau cuisine is fine if you are not hungry. You know it's a long way at 80kph, and when I get there you lot will be stuffing your faces. If anybody needs or wants a ride on any of my bikes they just have to ask if only to check the seat is free on the day.

Been getting the old shitter ready for the brass (3 weeks to go) did the fork oil and air filter tonight. Man I am looking forward to it this year. I really need to get out on the road and get some more saddle time in.

[gloplg]

Health food and nouveau cuisine is fine if you are not hungry. You know it's a long way at 80kph, and when I get there you lot will be stuffing your faces. If anybody needs or wants a ride on any of my bikes they just have to ask if only to check the seat is free on the day.

Been getting the old shitter ready for the brass (3 weeks to go) did the fork oil and air filter tonight. Man I am looking forward to it this year. I really need to get out on the road and get some more saddle time in.

So you will be bringing the Harley will you??? All those long straights......... My poor old GB will get left behind in the dust.. (New front tyre to settle in)

[Flip]

So you will be bringing the Harley will you??? All those long straights......... My poor old GB will get left behind in the dust.. (New front tyre to settle in)

So do the whole trip on the back tire. Give it a water blast and or a whipe down with methanol. You could use the steam cleaner at work if you like tomorow.

Don't know what bike I will take. It's a mood thing, do I take the silly or very silly bike.

[KiwiPhoenix]

It's a mood thing, do I take the silly or very silly bike.

MMMM, I suggest the very silly bike! :rofl:

[cruza]

Whimper whimper, says the big hairy biker.

This leather clad tinker bell missed out on the fairy cakes.


Well if ya really nice ,I may let ya watch me do a oil change and receive my reward:shifty:
sure there will be heaps of crumbs:love:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Well if ya really nice ,I may let ya watch me do a oil change and receive my reward:shifty:
sure there will be heaps of crumbs:love:

:rofl:

Now to make sure I have oil and the filter, will let you know when I get this and we can do the deal, cupcakes will be paid up front!!

[cruza]

:rofl:

Now to make sure I have oil and the filter, will let you know when I get this and we can do the deal, cupcakes will be paid up front!!

As long as ya like castrol oil , just cupcakes will be fine

[KiwiPhoenix]

As long as ya like castrol oil , just cupcakes will be fine

Hey to me, oil is oil! Showing how much of a girl I am :laugh:

[Flip]

Hey to me, oil is oil! Showing how much of a girl I am :laugh:

Hell i'm a petrochemical engineer, I was the engineer at Mobil and caltex and hey oil is oil to me as well, guess I am also a girl.

[cruza]

Hell i'm a petrochemical engineer, I was the engineer at Mobil and caltex and hey oil is oil to me as well, guess I am also a girl.

gee thats out there flip , never would have guessed with the beard an all:gob:

Yeah much the same , buy where I get the best deal .

[gloplg]

Hell i'm a petrochemical engineer, I was the engineer at Mobil and caltex and hey oil is oil to me as well, guess I am also a girl.

Do you wear a skirt????:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Do you wear a skirt????:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Well it wouldn't surprise me if he did having scots blood after all! :rofl:

[Peeteey]

Morning all,

With the kind help of Cruza we managed to figure out the the front wheel of my Kat, which was a bit skee-wiff when I put it back on a while ago, is now more of less straight.
Long story short we also figured out that on both the front brakes, one of the brake piston things is stuck/seized. One half works ok, one doesn't so one of the two pads on both sides is pushed all the way out and can't go back in making it almost impossible to get the bloody things back on, let alone allow the wheel to rotate.

So, does anyone know how to un-seize a disc brake piston? Is this something that we could do on Wed or would I have to take it to the shop?
If we can do this on Wed then we could also bleed the brakes with the new braided lines, then hopefully the bike would be all go!

Woo Woo! :Punk:

Pete

[Hawk]

when I finished the mods (fuel tank with fuel gauge and replacement guage set - acewell) and payed my acc tax Ill try and make it

[Hawk]

Morning all,

With the kind help of Cruza we managed to figure out the the front wheel of my Kat, which was a bit skee-wiff when I put it back on a while ago, is now more of less straight.
Long story short we also figured out that on both the front brakes, one of the brake piston things is stuck/seized. One half works ok, one doesn't so one of the two pads on both sides is pushed all the way out and can't go back in making it almost impossible to get the bloody things back on, let alone allow the wheel to rotate.

So, does anyone know how to un-seize a disc brake piston? Is this something that we could do on Wed or would I have to take it to the shop?
If we can do this on Wed then we could also bleed the brakes with the new braided lines, then hopefully the bike would be all go!

Woo Woo! :Punk:

Pete
I normally give my pistons a good swim in brake clean from repco annaully but I must warn you keep that stuff away from anything rubber.

want you could try And please be careful doing this to much pressure and snap , first spray with brake clean the use shoe spreader and pump the handle bar lever alternativly to see if you can free them that way but if that works I would still strip down and clean.

[cruza]

Reckon you should price rekit quote from the shop peeteey. as you need new pads as well and you don't want leaking brake fliud for the sake of a few dollars for new seals after freeing up piston.

Think you also say that you put a different rim and rotors on with that new tyre. Still could be slighty different from original one on the bike

[Peeteey]

Reckon you should price rekit quote from the shop peeteey. as you need new pads as well and you don't want leaking brake fliud for the sake of a few dollars for new seals after freeing up piston.

Think you also say that you put a different rim and rotors on with that new tyre. Still could be slighty different from original one on the bike


Righto, will do. The rotors are the same, I swapped them over from the old rim, the new rim is the only difference. I'd forgotten what a joy long overdue maintenance is on old bikes, you undo one nut, which was probably seized, then the whole thing falls apart!
I sometimes think the only thing holding it together is its sheer stubborness!

[KiwiPhoenix]

Righto, will do. The rotors are the same, I swapped them over from the old rim, the new rim is the only difference. I'd forgotten what a joy long overdue maintenance is on old bikes, you undo one nut, which was probably seized, then the whole thing falls apart!
I sometimes think the only thing holding it together is its sheer stubborness!

I hear you on this, I had the same problem with my brake caliper. A $50 job turned into a $150 job in the end! Ah the joys!

[cruza]

I hear you on this, I had the same problem with my brake caliper. A $50 job turned into a $150 job in the end! Ah the joys!

Yeah , but ya did it once and right the first time , saves money and hussles in the long run. :yes:

............Hate to think what you would get for $50 these days:sick:

[cruza]

I sometimes think the only thing holding it together is its sheer stubborness!

probably still got frostbite from the last big trip it did, brass monkey wasn't it?:D

[KiwiPhoenix]

Yeah , but ya did it once and right the first time , saves money and hussles in the long run. :yes:

............Hate to think what you would get for $50 these days:sick:

Yeah, I did it once but as for doing it right, well thats the long story, took almost 6 hours to change the brake pads and change the caliper. Although if I ever need to do it again, I'll know what to do!

[KiwiPhoenix]

probably still got frostbite from the last big trip it did, brass monkey wasn't it?:D

:rofl: so thats why you are not going then!!??

[cruza]

:rofl: so thats why you are not going then!!??


mr cruza is going .... you mean peeteey? ....well he has got a bmw snow plough, just think the owner is nervous , being a rally virgin and all.........:whistle:

[KiwiPhoenix]

mr cruza is going .... you mean peeteey? ....well he has got a bmw snow plough, just think the owner is nervous , being a rally virgin and all.........:whistle:

Yeah I mean Peeteey!! I've even done a couple of rallies and have the badges to show for it!

[schrodingers cat]

Usually a jammed calliper piston is caused by the build up of brake dust solidifying on the exposed piston and jamming as the piston is pushed back into the calliper body.

If I read correctly, the problem is the piston jammed OUT? In this instance the best thing to do is remove the calliper and remove all the pistons, give it a good clean and reassemble.
If you don't want to fit new seals etc (which isn't always necessary)careful about what you spray at the calliper. Sometimes it is possible to twist the piston slightly clockwise/anticlockwise using various gubbins but be super careful not to damage the piston surface. The piston may be jammed as it has cocked over. C clamp vise grips are useful to pull the piston back in SLIGHTLY before using compressed air to get them out.

When everything is clean and new the whole process is easy. When it comes to things which are stuck sometimes the cheaper option is to pay someone who has a few clues to fix it. You may be able to do it yourself. You may be able to root it yourself.

If you can afford to learn the hard way are prepared to risk it have a go. Either way you'll learn something.

[cruza]

Usually a jammed calliper piston is caused by the build up of brake dust solidifying on the exposed piston and jamming as the piston is pushed back into the calliper body.

If I read correctly, the problem is the piston jammed OUT? In this instance the best thing to do is remove the calliper and remove all the pistons, give it a good clean and reassemble.
If you don't want to fit new seals etc (which isn't always necessary)careful about what you spray at the calliper. Sometimes it is possible to twist the piston slightly clockwise/anticlockwise using various gubbins but be super careful not to damage the piston surface. The piston may be jammed as it has cocked over. C clamp vise grips are useful to pull the piston back in SLIGHTLY before using compressed air to get them out.

When everything is clean and new the whole process is easy. When it comes to things which are stuck sometimes the cheaper option is to pay someone who has a few clues to fix it. You may be able to do it yourself. You may be able to root it yourself.

If you can afford to learn the hard way are prepared to risk it have a go. Either way you'll learn something.

Was a reasonable amount of gunk in lines and line spliter, used a fair bit of force to try and move piston, its not jammed all the way out, but theres no way a fresh set of pads would fit. Considering state of pads and caliper, reckon do it once/right policy would be safest.
strip, clean ,check bore and new seals

[schrodingers cat]

Definately need to get those pistons out and give it a good clean with kero and scotchbrite.
Try heating the calliper with a hot air gun and trying the compressed air route.

I'm sure if you bought the callipers in to the Maint evening some kind souls might help. However bearing in mind the risk of f****ing something perhaps swopping money for the chance to watch a professional do it might be wise...

Cooks and broth you know.

[Subike]

Are you sure it is the pistons that are siezied, making the calipers lop sided/ or the caliper slides siezed?
There are two little pins the calipers slide on to keep them central with the disc, these often are forgotten when pads are changed, not being serviced, this cancause lop sided wear on the pads, and also the effect of a piston being siezed.
If a Piston has siezed to the point that you cannot remove it by force of opperating the prake lever alone, then you are possibly up for some serious work, I would recomend a professional brake service center if this was the case.
Otherwise, if it is the slides then a wire brish, some KY gell ( white petrolium jelly) and time can do wonders to sticky calipers.
I have found from experiance that sticking calipers slides are the most common cause of uneven disc pad and disc wear on bikes.

[Peeteey]

reckon do it once/right policy would be safest.
strip, clean ,check bore and new seals

Yep, I'm going to subscribe to this policy. They're going into the shop tomorrow. Would have gone in today but I totally forgot about them rattling around in the boot! :innocent:



I'm sure if you bought the callipers in to the Maint evening some kind souls might help.

We are lucky to have such a great collective of knowledge, aren't we? :yes: But after seeing the look on Cruza's face whilst trying to get things unstuck, the amount of crap throughout the brakes, the fact that they probably haven't been serviced in 26 years and the fact that for some bizarre reason I can afford it at the moment, they're going to the shop.


Usually a jammed calliper piston is caused by the build up of brake dust solidifying on the exposed piston and jamming as the piston is pushed back into the calliper body.
...
Either way you'll learn something.

I reckon this is exactly it, upon reexamination in sunlight, they're bloody filthy! Even moreso than I first thought! How they worked over the last number of years I'll never know ...
And yea, the thing I've learned is often the shortcut turns out to be the longest way between two points (Murphy's Law) :D



I have found from experiance that sticking calipers slides are the most common cause of uneven disc pad and disc wear on bikes.

There is definitely some unevenness on one side but it's not chronic. The slides seemed ok, not rusty or sticky at all. I'll bring the bike in once the brakes have been fixed. Should be able to get there under it's own steam then! Woop!

Thanks everyone for thoughts and ideas :niceone: :first:

[KiwiPhoenix]

We do come in handy sometimes!! :rofl: well, maybe the ones that know what they are talking about!! I'll stick to holding the light and watching and learning.

[been_there]

Much happening tonight....Maintenance wise?

[gloplg]

Smallish turnout tonight, must be something to do with the :cold::cold: night.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Great pics Gloplg!! It wasn't that cold, granted I was wearing about 4 layers under my jacket :laugh:

[kerryhare]

We we else where tonight, I didn't think it was that cold, except for my fingers they were cold.

[McWild]

Any more photos there Gary me old mate?

[imdying]

If the pistons are seized, don't butcher it, bring it to me on a Saturday morning and I'll strip it and clean it. PM me if you want details.

[gloplg]

Any more photos there Gary me old mate?

Andrew............ So sorry I was in a hurry and didn't check if all the photos had been posted.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Righty ho people, have a wee problem. When I was adjusting my headlight (a couple of weeks ago) I had to take out the speedo cable, no big thing there but I have now got a problem where the speedo is vibrating in it's casing, I have checked the connection everything seems to be ok, any ideas?? I'm going to have a look at the workshop manual to see if I can figure it but may need your help if I can't!

[Flip]

If these modern bikes went back to putting the instruments in the tank where they belong you would not have a problem.

[imdying]

Hell no,we should be moving forward (in regards to having take your eyes off the road to read instruments), not backwards... sooner there's an open standard for bike and helmet manufacturers to follow regarding instruments on your visor, the better.

[Flip]

Spectacles, testicles, watch, wallet and speed. See you can do it all in milliseconds.

Visor is that one of those new fangled clear things they are putting on them flash new saftee lids is it? You know me I am hell anti tek.

Is anybody going Wednesday? I would like to pop in for a while for nothing better than I have fixed the hub on the boxer and it is probably going to be too wet to ride into town tomorrow night.

[maxf]

Not going if it's like this... I know I'm a whimp, but working on a wet bike ain't no fun. And I've been commuting on the bike anyway. And it's getting longer to dry the gear out!! ... Plus predicted gale force southerlies will probably be a bridge just too far, but we do have to discount for MetServices' grasp on reality with that prediction too.

I guess you'd be OK if you'd bought an Isetta, instead of the sidecar? :yes:

PS -you might enjoy http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/bmw/1937-bmw-r12-679.html

[fireliv]

Believe it or not I might actually make it!! Probably in the cage but thats better than nothing!!

[KiwiPhoenix]

Same Liv, probably be along in the cage! I don't mind riding in the rain (done that a few times now) but it's the combination of dark, wet white lines that doesn't excite me much. :no:

[Dave3362]

what a bunch of wimps coming in their cages.. ill be there bike and all

[Spuds1234]

Im still deciding if I'll get there or not. I should do as I've only just gotten up and I should atleast do something today.

[KiwiPhoenix]

what a bunch of wimps coming in their cages.. ill be there bike and all

I just don't want my sheepskin seat getting all wet!! :laugh:


Im still deciding if I'll get there or not. I should do as I've only just gotten up and I should atleast do something today.

:laugh: Well you have already done one thing today, you got up!

[gloplg]

I just don't want my sheepskin seat getting all wet!! :laugh:

Ohhhhhhhhhhh.......................... And I thought you were just wimping out:innocent::innocent::rofl::rofl:

[JMemonic]

Have the afternoon off but am starting early in the morning and have other commitments so will be missing out tonight.