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mashman
14th April 2010, 13:01
Are you fucking with me? What's it going to be made of? We've prepared for the rugby world cup... there's a giant tent to host a bunch of beer swilling knuckle draggers and where do they put it... on a fuckin pier surrounded by water... then we're told that our drinking culture is abhorant too... erm, helloooooo, a tent in which to drink piss????? the office is roaring ha ha haaaa

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/7058846/stink-raised-over-tent-plan/

The Stranger
14th April 2010, 13:04
Are you fucking with me? What's it going to be made of? We've prepared for the rugby world cup... there's a giant tent to host a bunch of beer swilling knuckle draggers and where do they put it... on a fuckin pier surrounded by water... then we're told that our drinking culture is abhorant too... erm, helloooooo, a tent in which to drink piss????? the office is roaring ha ha haaaa

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/7058846/stink-raised-over-tent-plan/

Where did you get the $100mil figure for the tent from?
That's not what the article says.

mashman
14th April 2010, 13:14
what's wrong with a bit of poetic licence? Ok so there will be some bits under the tent... but if you insist on me being serious on the subject... how can you justify $100 million for a "short-term plan"?

The Stranger
14th April 2010, 13:21
what's wrong with a bit of poetic licence? Ok so there will be some bits under the tent... but if you insist on me being serious on the subject... how can you justify $100 million for a "short-term plan"?

I suspect that the passage you are referring to is
"Labour's Auckland issues spokesman Phil Twyford says although Aucklanders did not want to rush into spending $100 million on a short-term plan for Queens Wharf, surely the Government can do better than a tent."

That in no way says the tent will cost 100 mil. It may - but that's not what it says.
It suggests to me that some prior proposed plan was going to cost 100 mil and was rejected, however having rejected that 100 mil plan, surely we can do better than a tent.

mashman
14th April 2010, 13:45
I suspect that the passage you are referring to is
"Labour's Auckland issues spokesman Phil Twyford says although Aucklanders did not want to rush into spending $100 million on a short-term plan for Queens Wharf, surely the Government can do better than a tent."

That in no way says the tent will cost 100 mil. It may - but that's not what it says.
It suggests to me that some prior proposed plan was going to cost 100 mil and was rejected, however having rejected that 100 mil plan, surely we can do better than a tent.

You're right. I lied. I thought the story lacked sensationalism, so had to make up a story to grab the attention of a biker forum and to have them heap kudos upon me for my popularist view point... and all off the back of another story, just to cloud the issue... you've foiled my diabolical plan... I'm off to find pinky to start again...

It suggests to me that a $100 million plan was going to go through until someone of influence objected for a bloody good reason and the project had to be shelved along with all of the associated backhanders... If they had a real plan, it would have been started by now... no backup plan from a government and private industry... not really surprised... it is 2011 next year right?

peasea
14th April 2010, 14:20
It's rugby-oriented, who gives a fuck?

avgas
14th April 2010, 14:21
We should just paint the sheds for $1 million.
Get that guy who did Winjas roof

slofox
14th April 2010, 14:26
[QUOTE=mashman;1129718068... where do they put it... on a fuckin pier surrounded by water... then we're told that our drinking culture is abhorant too...[/QUOTE]

All part of the cunning plan to rid ourselves of those who perpetuate that abhorent "drinking culture.." :devil2:

I think they're gonna stock the surrounding water with great whites aren't they? (hungry ones...)

Fatt Max
14th April 2010, 14:33
Quite a reasonable price really,

My undies are the size of an average tent and I have shelled out a lot more than that in the past.

Mind you, got the Super Top for a bargain, only problem was there was just too little material, means me nads rub together like San Pedro's Maraca's........

Still, something for the ladies I suppose.......

Cant wait till Webber Bros are back in town, their big top ground sheets make great pants. Soft, strong and very absorbant. Trapeze rope is not the best elastic mind you so I always have to twist 15km of candy floss together...again, something for the ladies......

mashman
14th April 2010, 14:56
I think they're gonna stock the surrounding water with great whites aren't they? (hungry ones...)

ha ha haaaaa... wonder if we can find any old sea mines... ya know, to get the chum a flowin...

puddytat
14th April 2010, 15:59
Tis all very short term isnt it.:shit:
meanwhile in the mainland ours are all nearly finished:yes:

Swoop
14th April 2010, 17:50
This "event" is going to be held during summer? Who needs a bloody tent? Let them drink beer under the stars. The ratepayers and taxpayers will be thankful.



Get that guy who did Winjas roof
Naaaah. He took waaaaaay too long.

scissorhands
14th April 2010, 18:00
How very unpatriotic of you.

These antirugby sentiments need to be brought to the attention of the mind police

Probably a good anal probing with a police batton, just to see if your sedition is curable, or whether they have to ruck you till you learn to love your captors.

phill-k
14th April 2010, 18:07
John Keys legacy - a tent on a wharf for his party central, and a push bike track, still to be started as the only outcome of his recession busting job feast, and I forgot he's coming home from the USA convinced our relationship with the USA has never been stronger.

R6_kid
14th April 2010, 18:08
I thought the artists impression shown in the Harold wasn't half bad. Replacing shabby old pier buildings with modern-styled interpretations of the same shape - as long as the tax payer doesn't have to pay through the teeth for some wanky architects plan then I don't see the problem.

To be honest it's starting to look like the whole planning of Rugby World Cup associated shit is a fuckup. They have about 12 months to get approval to demolish the existing buildings and errect the new ones. They chose a song to be the 'anthem' for the advertising campaign and everyone things it's shite - how much did that cost?. What's going to happen next? I also see that the tickets, as expected, will be overpriced - so much so that you can buy them on a payment plan over 6-months.

They should fire the coach. Isn't that what they normally do when shit gets out of hand in Rugby?

peasea
14th April 2010, 18:38
They have about 12 months to get approval to demolish the existing buildings and errect the new ones.

Watch this space; the RMA will suddenly dissolve and consents will be granted overnight. If it were the V8's going to Auckland (man, they dropped the ball there didn't they, pun intended) there'd be delaying tactics all over the show. Coz it's rugby it'll all happen overnight.

There are claims it'll be good for the economy; well when it's all said and done I'll be sure to let everyone know how much better off I am.

In fact, I'll tell you now coz I predict I won't have one extra cent to spend.

It's a load of old bollocks.:yes:

Mully
14th April 2010, 18:40
It suggests to me that a $100 million plan was going to go through until someone of influence objected for a bloody good reason and the project had to be shelved along with all of the associated backhanders... If they had a real plan, it would have been started by now... no backup plan from a government and private industry... not really surprised... it is 2011 next year right?

The $100m plan was shit. Every design I saw was absolute rubbish.

Auckland has a habit of fucking up major projects cos we (they) rush in and it all turns to shit.

I'm glad they didn't just throw $100m at a useless idea - once the RWC is finished, it'd be useless.

If Auckland had fucked this up (almost a certainty) it would have been a disaster for all time. At least by putting a hold on "Party Central" so that a more balanced plan can be developed is only a good thing, IMHO.

If you ask me (and I'll consider this an implied asking) - they should build a decent cruise ship terminal on part of it and a public park on the rest. No apartments, no major retailing - almost a sanctury in the middle of the city.

R6_kid
14th April 2010, 18:49
If you ask me (and I'll consider this an implied asking) - they should build a decent cruise ship terminal on part of it and a public park on the rest. No apartments, no major retailing - almost a sanctury in the middle of the city.

Shit Mully! Where did you buy your thinking cap? That's not a dumb idea.

peasea
14th April 2010, 18:55
The $100m plan was shit. Every design I saw was absolute rubbish.

Auckland has a habit of fucking up major projects cos we (they) rush in and it all turns to shit.

I'm glad they didn't just throw $100m at a useless idea - once the RWC is finished, it'd be useless.

If Auckland had fucked this up (almost a certainty) it would have been a disaster for all time. At least by putting a hold on "Party Central" so that a more balanced plan can be developed is only a good thing, IMHO.

If you ask me (and I'll consider this an implied asking) - they should build a decent cruise ship terminal on part of it and a public park on the rest. No apartments, no major retailing - almost a sanctury in the middle of the city.

Haha, got you figured out mate!!!
You're a closet Wellingtonian, aren't you?

davebullet
14th April 2010, 19:55
If you ask me (and I'll consider this an implied asking) - they should build a decent cruise ship terminal on part of it and a public park on the rest. No apartments, no major retailing - almost a sanctury in the middle of the city.

... and some more motorcycle parking.... and a burn out area...

Maybe they asked for a marquee and it was misheard as a mark-up?

Delerium
14th April 2010, 20:27
I thought the artists impression shown in the Harold wasn't half bad. Replacing shabby old pier buildings with modern-styled interpretations of the same shape - as long as the tax payer doesn't have to pay through the teeth for some wanky architects plan then I don't see the problem.

To be honest it's starting to look like the whole planning of Rugby World Cup associated shit is a fuckup. They have about 12 months to get approval to demolish the existing buildings and errect the new ones. They chose a song to be the 'anthem' for the advertising campaign and everyone things it's shite - how much did that cost?. What's going to happen next? I also see that the tickets, as expected, will be overpriced - so much so that you can buy them on a payment plan over 6-months.

They should fire the coach. Isn't that what they normally do when shit gets out of hand in Rugby?


You're right, the whole thing is a fuckup. why the hell is the rate payer and tax payer subsidising a private enterprise (eden park). that is bullshit. The infrastructure will not be ready in time, so traffic will be a clusterfuck, and the whole exercise will cost nz big time. Im over the whole, but its rugby its the most important thing we have. it's a fucking game!

Delerium
14th April 2010, 20:29
Haha, got you figured out mate!!!
You're a closet Wellingtonian, aren't you?

Lol, the wellington waterfront shows what aucklands should be like

Mully
14th April 2010, 21:46
Lol, the wellington waterfront shows what aucklands should be like

Yep. But it never will be.

R6_kid
14th April 2010, 21:47
Lol, the wellington waterfront shows what aucklands should be like

Generally very windy and with an airport in the middle of it?

scissorhands
14th April 2010, 22:05
Lol, the wellington waterfront shows what aucklands should be like

Overdone and tacky?

spacemonkey
14th April 2010, 22:11
Overdone and tacky?

No, nothing like the viaduct.

mashman
14th April 2010, 22:11
the lack of vision.

R6_kid
14th April 2010, 22:23
Overdone and tacky?

It's usually quite nice before 10pm.

Berries
14th April 2010, 23:00
They should fire the coach. Isn't that what they normally do when shit gets out of hand in Rugby?

Bring back Buck.

'kin rugby.

Skyryder
15th April 2010, 08:44
One hundred million or not Key's vision of 'Party Central' and the subsequent cockups that have followed is a 'glowing' example of how Key and his ministers are managing the country.


Skyryder

Mully
15th April 2010, 09:06
One hundred million or not Key's vision of 'Party Central' and the subsequent cockups that have followed is a 'glowing' example of how Key and his ministers are managing the country.


I was wondering where you were.

Mallard's idea of a waterfront stadium that could double as a cruise ship terminal was equally shit. The concept showed a laughable grasp of the security requirements that international ships (and passengers) demand, and would have meant (again) that the one chance that Auckland had not to cock-up Queen's Wharf would have been fucked up.

I think that the decision to throw away the "development" in the short term is a fantastic one - I'm not giving National credit for that particularly because i simply don't know who made that decision.

The "Party Central" idea had merit - albeit a much too short-term view of what to do with a fantastic asset in the middle of the City. Also, there was a much too short lead time to do anything meaningful.

I'd much prefer they shut-off part of, say, Queen St every night for a nightly "party-central". (It wont happen for the same reason the V8 race never happened - all the NIMBYs will waaaaa (tm) about it.) Or set-up a temporary "Party-Central" in Victoria Park for the duration.

mashman
15th April 2010, 09:07
One hundred million or not Key's vision of 'Party Central' and the subsequent cockups that have followed is a 'glowing' example of how Key and his ministers are managing the country.


Skyryder

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Shit slinging don't fix things...

Mully
15th April 2010, 09:10
Shit slinging don't fix things...

Mashman, have you met Skyryder?

mashman
15th April 2010, 09:20
Mashman, have you met Skyryder?

No........ You?

mashman
15th April 2010, 09:23
I'd much prefer they shut-off part of, say, Queen St every night for a nightly "party-central". (It wont happen for the same reason the V8 race never happened - all the NIMBYs will waaaaa (tm) about it.) Or set-up a temporary "Party-Central" in Victoria Park for the duration.

Great idea. No need for expensive developments (facilities already exist, localised bulk policing in case of trouble) and the 50 mill that the govt were gonna put in (figure heard during radio interview 1 months ish ago) can go towards a few hundred doctors, or nurses, or police, or teachers or or or for the next 10 years.

Swoop
15th April 2010, 11:11
The concept suggested last night was to do it simply.
1: Bowl over the old sheds and shit on the wharf.
2: Astroturf the whole place.
3: 5000 BBQ tables + 5000 hay bales for seating. (optional: those big electrical cable holding wheel things).
4: 1000 open fire brazier-thingammys.
5: Licences for mobile pubs to set up and pump beer.

It works for Oktoberfest.

Would be good to have a few sheep wandering around because:
it would be a talking point,
Honda riders would have a sure-fire date for the evening,
it would get a load of the wooly fuckers off of the roads, throwing themselves in front of bikes!

Skyryder
15th April 2010, 13:40
As did labour before them, and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them and labour before them and national before them

Shit slinging don't fix things...

I think you missed the Lib lab's in the above. I had wanted to post an icon here but they have gone missing along with my images.


Shit slinging?? Yep but KB would not be KB without it.


Skyryder

mashman
15th April 2010, 14:00
Shit slinging?? Yep but KB would not be KB without it.


I wasn't talking about KB (at least here noones "life" is at stake when a decision is made). I was talking about your politicians... oh and sorry for the Lib exclusion, it must have hurt you deeply.

Skyryder
15th April 2010, 20:38
oh and sorry for the Lib exclusion, it must have hurt you deeply.


Yea like i'm bleeding all over.

With Mallard it was the owners of the land that put the kybosh on his stadium.............Key's cockup was the result of his own misfortune is that the opens his mouth for a soundbite and that's as far as it goes. Mind you it does make a change from lying so I gota give him a little bit of improvement..............at least he has not been caught at it lately.

Skyryder

JATZ
15th April 2010, 21:18
It's rugby-oriented, who gives a fuck?


A-Men to that brother :D

ynot slow
17th April 2010, 15:19
And once again the politicians tell lies,a news item said no there won't be a tent.Think it was Murray(I'm a hair model)McCully who offered that gem.