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Zed
19th May 2005, 21:59
Isn't it one of the most depressing feelings to come outside and see that you have a flat tyre on your bike!!! :mad:

The attached 2 1/2 inch nail was found driven all the way into the centre of my fairly new rear Diablo on Monday night when I left work (not the first time I've been "nailed")...talk about a sudden change of plans! I was supposed to be meeting someone in half an hour but ended up cancelling and instead gallavanting all over the countryside to have the puncture repaired - thank you again Cycletreads!

Ended up being 1 1/2 hours late home and nearly completely saturated from the heavy rains we had in Auckland...but hey, at least my bike was now sitting comfortably in the gargre with two fully inflated tyres! :D

2_SL0
19th May 2005, 22:08
bummer dude.

Biff
19th May 2005, 22:08
Kiwi's have a wonderful word for moments just like those.......Bugger.

riffer
19th May 2005, 22:08
I've wondered about that happening.

How do they fix it? Is it one of those pullthrough plug jobs like on cars?

And if so, up to what speed do they rate the tyre able to go at? Still Z-rated?

Bad luck though Zed...

again.

SuperDave
19th May 2005, 22:09
Tell me about it, I just got back from what was supposed to be a 'short' ride to try out my new one piece. My clutch cable snapped at the lug thingy so I ended up stalling as I came to a stop at the motorway offramp. Pushed my bike to mobil and tried to fix it, but I need a whole new clutch cable. Had to push start it - rode it home in 2nd at 30kph.

SuperDave
19th May 2005, 22:10
Oh yeah, bugger dude. How did they repair it?

inlinefour
19th May 2005, 22:49
Bugger :devil2: :mad:

curious george
19th May 2005, 22:57
And if so, up to what speed do they rate the tyre able to go at? Still Z-rated?
again.

Hmmmmm, Zed rated?

250learna
19th May 2005, 23:02
i feel for you!
sux when that happenes, i was going down to motomart bout a month ago to get my bike fixed, got a nail trough the side on the way down :mad:
nother cuple hundy for new tyre on top of the service :puke:

Madguitarist!
19th May 2005, 23:37
Real bummer dude! I carry around one of those puncture kits just in case! Haven't needed it yet but don;t ever wanna be left wanting! :yes:

Glad you got it sorted!

zadok
19th May 2005, 23:49
Can you plug a bike tyre, or do you need a tube?

Marty :ride:

Racey Rider
20th May 2005, 08:47
The rear rim protector on my race bike has Three plugs in it. Plus a tube! :slap:

Looking forward to getting a new TT900 for it tomorrow from Stew @

TSS Motorcycles
Where everyone get a bargain!
Well,, Vic club racers anyway! :niceone:

Hitcher
20th May 2005, 08:56
Is it one of those pullthrough plug jobs?
The thought of that made my ears ring. And my eyes water...

Shade
20th May 2005, 09:07
I had my rear diablo plugged when i had the same thing happen...

Still did 2 track days and rode it hard in the weekends, was fine. :)

eliot-ness
20th May 2005, 09:14
Tough luck Zed, In the bad old days you removed the wheel, sprocket and brake stayed in place. Removed tyre, repaired, inflated, refitted, resumed riding. About 20minutes.Present day(and I'm quoting the Triumph manual) If a tyre or tube sustains a puncture the tyre and tube must be replaced???? $250+ for a puncture???.New Bonnie, (copied from the old one) Half a day to remove wheel. (if you first purchase centre stand.$650) Take wheel to nearest dealer for replacement. (middle of desert road,mmidnight, sunday, pissing down.)????
Dealer's solution. Ring the AA. They'll get you and the bike home. O.K. Now I have to join the A.A. buy a cell phone and still pay for new tyre and tube. This is progress????
My own solution is simpler. Buy puncture repair kit. $40. Tyre levers. $20. carry all the spanners you might possibly need for a major overhaul. Carry at least $1,000 in cash just in case the unexpected happens. Rely on Murphy's law. If you have everything you need, you'll never need it.
Incidentally. The puncture outfits are o.. for tubeless tyres. The include C.O.2 cartridges for inflation. And you don't have to remove the wheel. Good value

crashe
20th May 2005, 09:56
Buggar.
***

Odin
20th May 2005, 10:10
...... Rely on Murphy's law. If you have everything you need, you'll never need it. value

Agree with that one, had some trouble with my batterie for a week or so. Then i started carrying jumper cables and the problems just gone away....

Where do you get the punture kit ??

Zed
20th May 2005, 11:58
Tough luck Zed, In the bad old days you removed the wheel, sprocket and brake stayed in place. Removed tyre, repaired, inflated, refitted, resumed riding. About 20minutes.That's about the long and the short of how mine was repaired. Gone through the same routine 2 or 3 times over the past 10 yrs.


My own solution is simpler. Buy puncture repair kit. $40. Tyre levers. $20. carry all the spanners you might possibly need for a major overhaul. Carry at least $1,000 in cash just in case the unexpected happens. Rely on Murphy's law. If you have everything you need, you'll never need it.
Incidentally. The puncture outfits are o.. for tubeless tyres. The include C.O.2 cartridges for inflation. And you don't have to remove the wheel. Good valueYes, I'm on the hunt for a good repair kit with the rubber inserts & air cartridges, etc...but these are supposed to be only temporary for emergency use, even though many peeps don't bother having them repaired internally at a later date! Lol on the $1000 cash advice. :killingme

ManDownUnder
20th May 2005, 12:04
The thought of that made my ears ring. And my eyes water...

You need help! :killingme

Pixie
20th May 2005, 12:09
If the tyre's tubeless plug it.Takes 10 mins max.
Then later get a permanent plug or Slime the tyre to back up the temporary plug.

eliot-ness
20th May 2005, 12:09
Agree with that one, had some trouble with my batterie for a week or so. Then i started carrying jumper cables and the problems just gone away....

Where do you get the punture kit ??
Hi Odin Got mine at Holeshot. Most dealers have them. Another short term, get you home cure is tyre pando. About $28 for one shot, inflates and plugs at the same time. Need to fix properly soon as possible. Can be used for tubes but makes them difficult to repair. Beats walking though



If you can keep your head when everyone around you is losing theirs, you are not drinking enough

Zed
20th May 2005, 13:18
...Another short term, get you home cure is tyre pando. About $28 for one shot, inflates and plugs at the same time. Need to fix properly soon as possible. Can be used for tubes but makes them difficult to repair. Beats walking thoughI have a can of that tyre pando...at home! Wasn't much use to me there though? Usually carry it in my Ventura pack but can't really say why it wasn't in there at the time?? :pinch:

Coldkiwi
20th May 2005, 14:19
ya poor sod! its amazing how many nails are lying around on our roads- you'd think it was a building site!

remember to keep an eye on the pressure. I had a short stumpy sod of a nail pulled out of my rear tyre that went in on a very acute angle a month ago and the repair didn't hold at all - required completely redoing.

Zed
20th May 2005, 15:03
ya poor sod! Nah I didn't really want any sympathy - 'flatties' are to be expected from time to time!


remember to keep an eye on the pressure. I had a short stumpy sod of a nail pulled out of my rear tyre that went in on a very acute angle a month ago and the repair didn't hold at all - required completely redoing.Apparently if the nail or whatever goes thru near the centre of the tyre it is usually an easy repair job, but if it goes through closer to the rim or like you say on an acute angle, then the repair is more difficult to complete often resulting in the need for a replacement tyre...so I was told the other night anyway. :shifty:

RiderInBlack
20th May 2005, 21:45
Had a bad run of flats with P.Daib's so I don't use them on "Roxanne" any more. Must say that the nail your showed would have done in most tyres.

I always carry a tubeless motorbike tyre repair kit. Make sure that you have enough patches/"dog-turds" and CO2 cannisters. Have been caught-out with 2 double punctures before (bloody P.Daibs). I also now carry a small hand pump (the CO2's didn't get her hard enough last 2 times) and have a tubeless tyre repair plug at home (bloody flatty on a Public bloody Holiday).

And yep, I to have been told that if the puncture is too close to the wall of the tyre it is no long safe (ie: fu*ked).

Kickaha
20th May 2005, 23:41
Apparently if the nail or whatever goes thru near the centre of the tyre it is usually an easy repair job, but if it goes through closer to the rim or like you say on an acute angle, then the repair is more difficult to complete often resulting in the need for a replacement tyre...so I was told the other night anyway. :shifty:

The closer to the centre and the closer the angle it goes in to 90 degrees the easier the repair is to do

Dont ever risk leaving a temp repair in place,the tyre needs to be removed from the rim and checked to make sure there is no internal damage and then repaiered properly

Pickle
21st May 2005, 08:03
Had a piece of metal 7cm long go thru rear tyre ( less than 1000kms old ) on way to National Park for Kiwibiker Rally, used repair kit on the bike but it was so old plugs kept failing and couldnt get them into tyre :mad: . eventually used one from garage at Mangaweka :ride: .
Took tyre to Motomart to fix properly but piece of metal had partially gone thru side wall of tyre so needed a replacement.
Motomart didnt have same size new so fitted an ex race tyre for me to use untill correct size came in. :niceone:

thehollowmen
10th October 2005, 07:52
I have a can of that tyre pando...at home! Wasn't much use to me there though? Usually carry it in my Ventura pack but can't really say why it wasn't in there at the time?? :pinch:

I just did similar to that on Sat night.
Puncture, wife on the back, failing light.

Only purchased the can of tyre pando last week... *headdesk* It is in my locker at work because I keep forgetting to put it in the bike.

Zed
10th October 2005, 09:15
I just did similar to that on Sat night.
Puncture, wife on the back, failing light.

Only purchased the can of tyre pando last week... *headdesk* It is in my locker at work because I keep forgetting to put it in the bike.Don't ya just hate that! :doh:

zeRax
10th October 2005, 14:52
what is this tyre pando stuff :o never seen it in shop before, how does it work O_o tell tell tell ^^

TonyB
10th October 2005, 15:00
Bugger Zed! I had the same problem before a ride 2 weeks ago. My first ever flat on a bike. And a few days before that I found a nail in one of the near new tyres on our car. At least the car had free puncture repairs...

And Superdave- once rolling you can easily change gears without a clutch. Up and down.

myvice
10th October 2005, 19:37
I have never had a bike that didn’t have at least one puncher.
I carry a can of pando, must get another repair kit as well.

Bonez
10th October 2005, 19:52
what is this tyre pando stuff :o never seen it in shop before, how does it work O_o tell tell tell ^^It's availablr from most service station. Puncture repair in a can. About 8" long can with plastic tube attached and costs around $15. Just make sure the plastic actuating head is well protected if stored in a pannier/saddle bag/pack or you end up with a hell of a mess. Don't ask how I know :drinkup: