Motorcyclist hits 200kmh on State Highway 1

[Bald Eagle]

So who was in a big hurry to get to work this morning? 200k on SH1 (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3631503/Motorcyclist-hits-200kmh-on-State-Highway-1)

[steve_t]

Geez... I'm never THAT keen to get to work

[That Guy]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3631503/Motorcyclist-hits-200kmh-on-State-Highway-1

haha

[bogan]

well, seen at 930, musta been running a bit late, but 200 seems a bit excessive, hell, I'm already 1.5hrs late and I'm on KiwiBiker instead of my bike anyways :o

[scumdog]

No U-turns attempted??

[onearmedbandit]

It was heading south towards Wellington at an estimated speed of 200kmh, a Kapiti police spokesman said.

Pah, estimated speed. For all we know, he might've been going.....faster!

[onearmedbandit]

No U-turns attempted??

There were no hills or blind corners anywhere around for him to find.

[blackdog]

No U-turns attempted??

due to the obvious futility knowing that by the time said turn was completed the bike was already in waikanae........

[blackdog]

so which was it? clocked or estimated?

nice contradiction.....

[TOTO]

I dont know who that rider was !

[dogsnbikes]

Was Not I,Im still at home

I'm sure rider is feeling guilty as hell and will hand them self's in ....YEAH-RIGHT :lol:

[blackdog]

just like this guy.....lol
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3630029/Detective-stunned-by-mans-P-confession

do ya reckon that stuff makes ya paranoid?

[Edbear]

just like this guy.....lol
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3630029/Detective-stunned-by-mans-P-confession

Beat me to it! LOL!!!

[Spuds1234]

just like this guy.....lol
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3630029/Detective-stunned-by-mans-P-confession

do ya reckon that stuff makes ya paranoid?

If only police work were that easy. They could just ask people to hand themselves in if they have done something bad. Would save lots of money and time.

[Headbanger]

I'd be impressed if he was filtering, otherwise.....meh.

[TOTO]

he is missing part of his middle and index finger. Recon its related to the drug stuff ?

[Jizah]

It was Anthrax.

[duckonin]

No U-turns attempted??

No Need he was going too fast just a blur, plus not many cops have the ability to drive their cars that fast and remain in control,"most can not drive"

[scumdog]

No Need he was going too fast just a blur, plus not many cops have the ability to drive their cars that fast and remain in control,"most can not drive"

Ah, nothing like wise words from one who has the experiences to back up the words...:shifty:

[Bren]

I deny all knowlege of this event...in the words of Sgt Shultz "I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q

[chanceyy]

Was Not I,Im still at home

I'm sure rider is feeling guilty as hell and will hand them self's in ....YEAH-RIGHT :lol:

You would have really missed the boat if it was you :laugh: .. now waiting for reports from this afternoon aye :whistle:


I deny all knowlege of this event...in the words of Sgt Shultz "I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q

hmm does the ole bike go that fast Bren :sunny:

[steve_t]

so which was it? clocked or estimated?

nice contradiction.....

Clocked at 212km/h was reported in the Harold :niceone:

[Bren]

hmm does the ole bike go that fast Bren :sunny:

Balls out it will do 220...it dont like it though DAMHIK!

[cowboyz]

has been clocked speeding at an estimated



Quality reporting again!!????????????

Was proabably like 125................

[Stirts]

And a witness says "it sounded like it was going weally weally faaaaaaast" so it must have been speeding!

[nudemetalz]

That Keyway 150 out again ?

[MSTRS]

It was young Nudie out testing dad's bucket for him....

[Tunahunter]

So who was in a big hurry to get to work this morning? 200k on SH1 (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3631503/Motorcyclist-hits-200kmh-on-State-Highway-1)

Wouldn't have been a Harley - maybe a scooter????

[Fatjim]

Why is this news?

[sinfull]

has been clocked speeding at an estimated



Quality reporting again!!????????????

Was proabably like 125................ Nah bro i swear i was sittin on 225 but they never found me !

[onearmedbandit]

Why is this news?

Because as we all know, speed kills. The only reason the cops didn't find him was because speed done killed him. Just vanished like. But he definitely died.

[Hiflyer]

Because as we all know, speed kills. The only reason the cops didn't find him was because speed done killed him. Just vanished like. But he definitely died.

It'd be awkward if he did crash!

On another note, now we know how fast we need to go if we don't want to be chased!

[Mudfart]

i was doin 140ish, but had to slow down in ngaruwahia for the mudworks.
warning: the road was being sprayed to keep dust down, and it was actually mud.

[miloking]

now we know how fast we need to go if we don't want to be chased!

Good to know, but lets not talk about that too much :)

[Maha]

Should be ok on the Kapiti Coast, pretty flat with very little or no crests.

[nico]

police are trying to find him ,,,,,,, meh good luck suckers

[LBD]

At that speed....hope 200 is the only thing he hits..

But on SH1? Quiet Canty back road...maybe just once...for fun....

[Wannabiker]

God 200 to work....Imagine how fast he will be going to get home...

[Maha]

God 200 to work....Imagine how fast he will be going to get home...

He/She may missed work all together?

[Hiflyer]

police are trying to find him ,,,,,,, meh good luck suckers

I can imagine it

"We are looking for a dark coloured bike, with two wheels, capable of exceeding 200km/h"

good luck. It's like on police 10/7

"The offender was maori or pacific islander, about 183cm tall and may have contacts in the hawkes bay"

WTF

[HenryDorsetCase]

only 200? must've been stuck in third, on the way to a shop.

[cambridgedan]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10641377

Biker clocked at 212kmph now the police are looking for them.
They said they didnt chase, thats most likely because by the time they turn around hit another car and start following the biker would be long gone.
:gob: :scooter:

[miloking]

only 200? must've been stuck in third, on the way to a shop.

Probably was stuck in 3rd, i mean if you are going to go faster than 136km/h you might as well be doing 250....actualy faster you go less likely they are going to chase :D

[CookMySock]

Hehe, what about this one?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10640026

Carver?


Steve

[steve_t]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1129734358

[EJK]

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[rustic101]

I be the Hot Fuzz are trying to report as many 'bad bikers' as they can to take the heat off them, and make us look like we deserve everything we get!!!

[doc]

No U-turns attempted??
That's cos it was a Harley :shifty: . At that speed the car would have been scrap this time.

[davereid]

Probably was stuck in 3rd, i mean if you are going to go faster than 136km/h you might as well be doing 250....actualy faster you go less likely they are going to chase :D

Yeah, well the penalty for stopping when signalled if 40k/hr over the limit is 6 months loss of licence, instant impoundment of the vehicle, and you get to walk home, pay the fine, and pay to get your bike back.

On the other hand the penalty for not stopping is the same only you might not lose your bike - assuming you get caught.

No wonder the boys dont stop.

[Bad Gixxer]

Yeah, well the penalty for stopping when signalled if 40k/hr over the limit is 6 months loss of licence, instant impoundment of the vehicle, and you get to walk home, pay the fine, and pay to get your bike back.

On the other hand the penalty for not stopping is the same only you might not lose your bike - assuming you get caught.

No wonder the boys dont stop.

Actually i don't think that's correct. i got nailed at 150 last Feb and only got instant suspension for 28 days, had to push my bike home (yeah right, daughter trailered me home), 50 demerit points, and a $630 fine - I was on zero points so i was mobile again in 28 days. And a buddy of mine just got done for 155 last month (he's a member here but i won't mention his name), and he got 28 days suspension, had to push his bike home, a court appearance where he was fined about $800, and the demerits took him over the 100 so he automatically lost his licence for 3 months on top od the 28 days - but the beak didn't actually award him any additional suspension time.

[miloking]

Actually i don't think that's correct. i got nailed at 150 last Feb and only got instant suspension for 28 days, had to push my bike home (yeah right, daughter trailered me home), 50 demerit points, and a $630 fine - I was on zero points so i was mobile again in 28 days. And a buddy of mine just got done for 155 last month (he's a member here but i won't mention his name), and he got 28 days suspension, had to push his bike home, a court appearance where he was fined about $800, and the demerits took him over the 100 so he automatically lost his licence for 3 months on top od the 28 days - but the beak didn't actually award him any additional suspension time.

Ok so moral of all the stories is give a chase and if you get cought or stop you deserve all you get?

[Mom]

Actually i don't think that's correct. i got nailed at 150 last Feb and only got instant suspension for 28 days, had to push my bike home (yeah right, daughter trailered me home), 50 demerit points, and a $630 fine - I was on zero points so i was mobile again in 28 days. And a buddy of mine just got done for 155 last month (he's a member here but i won't mention his name), and he got 28 days suspension, had to push his bike home, a court appearance where he was fined about $800, and the demerits took him over the 100 so he automatically lost his licence for 3 months on top od the 28 days - but the beak didn't actually award him any additional suspension time.

You and your mate should be very proud of yourselves right about now. It is wankers like you that drags the reputation of the rest of us down. Thanks for nothing!

[NighthawkNZ]

Actually i don't think that's correct. i got nailed at 150 last Feb and only got instant suspension for 28 days, had to push my bike home (yeah right, daughter trailered me home), 50 demerit points, and a $630 fine - I was on zero points so i was mobile again in 28 days. And a buddy of mine just got done for 155 last month (he's a member here but i won't mention his name), and he got 28 days suspension, had to push his bike home, a court appearance where he was fined about $800, and the demerits took him over the 100 so he automatically lost his licence for 3 months on top od the 28 days - but the beak didn't actually award him any additional suspension time.

my hero......

[candor]

Why is this newsworthy suddenly now. Could it be damage control by smear bikers week?

[nallac]

You and your mate should be very proud of yourselves right about now. It is wankers like you that drags the reputation of the rest of us down. Thanks for nothing!

come on Mom thats a bit harsh. well a lot harsh...theres a hell of a lot of people on here that do those sort of speeds and more.

Didn't sound like he was bragging, just stating the facts re loss of licence speeds.

[davereid]

You and your mate should be very proud of yourselves right about now. It is wankers like you that drags the reputation of the rest of us down. Thanks for nothing!

Ahh, how things have changed in the clubhouse... the modern world I s'pose.

In days of old, it was the joker going the slowest who got the most shit, not the fella going fastest....

I must get me walking frame and get back to the bathroom for me meds..

[grantnz]

Listening to The Rock today while driving and the announcer says " OMG just heard of a bike being clocked at 212 kph on Kapiti Coast, it must have been Arron Slight as he lives down that way".
. .
Agree, it must be 'make bike riders look bad week'.

[miloking]

You and your mate should be very proud of yourselves right about now. It is wankers like you that drags the reputation of the rest of us down. Thanks for nothing!

Are you serious, you call him and his mate wankers over 150km/h????????

i see that police "speed kills" brain wash worked on you just fine.... just to piss you off last week on a way to coro i did 225km/h and still got overtaken by some dudes we met on our "stop for rest".... and if i see a cop i wont be stopping thats for sure.

SO yeah feel free to call me names as well! But i dont give a fuck about what you and other soft cocks have to say about it...but you are the one that is ruining the bikers reputation by sucking cock of police propaganda and conforming to this speed kills bulshit.

[RT527]

Nobody else has to make us bikers look bad some of us do such a swell job of it ourselves!!!

[Kittyhawk]

I was a wanker once.....now I just wank.

[duckonin]

Ah, nothing like wise words from one who has the experiences to back up the words...:shifty:

Haaaaa !! SD so you know me well then...Buggar my secret is out..

[DMNTD]

You and your mate should be very proud of yourselves right about now. It is wankers like you that drags the reputation of the rest of us down. Thanks for nothing!

LOL!!!!!!!!! Love to know what you really thought of the Norfland Crew™ in days of old then!

[carver]

Hehe, what about this one?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10640026

Carver?


Steve

Not me, i can run without binning, but good on the guys, epic run!

[Shadows]

Maybe Madboy is back.

[sinfull]

Shucks and so little a speed can enduce such propaganda !

[Gareth51]

Nah bro i swear i was sittin on 225 but they never found me !

Thats about the time you nip out for the morning paper

[marty]

I can imagine it

"We are looking for a dark coloured bike, with two wheels, capable of exceeding 200km/h"

good luck. It's like on police 10/7

"The offender was maori or pacific islander, about 183cm tall and may have contacts in the hawkes bay"

WTF

they're both funny, cause they're true :)

[Rev DJ]

It was a Red Duc... wasnt me!!

[steve_t]

Possibly had a dealer plate on...

[Fatjim]

Ahh, how things have changed in the clubhouse... the modern world I s'pose.

In days of old, it was the joker going the slowest who got the most shit, not the fella going fastest....

I must get me walking frame and get back to the bathroom for me meds..


Listening to The Rock today while driving and the announcer says " OMG just heard of a bike being clocked at 212 kph on Kapiti Coast, it must have been Arron Slight as he lives down that way".
. .
Agree, it must be 'make bike riders look bad week'.

Thats what happens when you let the fairer sex near bikes.

[Tank]

Possibly had a dealer plate on...

Nah - they dont put dealer plates on when the spanner monkey takes the bike for a post service 'test ride'

[evilrsvrguy]

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard
Hehe, what about this one?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10640026

Carver?


This was a stolen bike ,my bosses drz400e,the rider got away for a little while before the doggie got him ,

shame it didnt bite him , should be mandatory for thieving bike SCUM

[Conquiztador]

I do not think that 200k+ speeds are what we should do in areas where other traffic is present. A empty road somwhere is not too bad. Most of us have done so.

But what I question is this quote from one of the articles: "Reaction time is 2.5 seconds which means 147m travelled before reacting." That statement is by Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit. Considering that "Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests." (Wikipedia), and considering that mean RT for college-age individuals is about 160 milliseconds to detect an auditory stimulus, and approximately 190 milliseconds to detect visual stimulus, his statement makes me think that it is all part of a conspiracy to grab any chance there is where a biker has acted wrongly, and then make it look even worse in the eye of the public.

As much as I disagree on a "standard" reaction time for us all, what is "normally" used when doing any calculations in crashes is a 1.5 second reaction time.

So either the Sergeant was alluding to his thoughts re the intelligence of the rider. Or perhaps he was using some standard that is used to pass prospective new police officers...

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah I saw the bit about the reaction time too. Fuck I'd be dead many many times over if my reaction time was anything like he quoted. And not just from riding.

[george formby]

I do not think that 200k+ speeds are what we should do in areas where other traffic is present. A empty road somwhere is not too bad. Most of us have done so.

But what I question is this quote from one of the articles: "Reaction time is 2.5 seconds which means 147m travelled before reacting." That statement is by Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit. Considering that "Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests." (Wikipedia), and considering that mean RT for college-age individuals is about 160 milliseconds to detect an auditory stimulus, and approximately 190 milliseconds to detect visual stimulus, his statement makes me think that it is all part of a conspiracy to grab any chance there is where a biker has acted wrongly, and then make it look even worse in the eye of the public.

As much as I disagree on a "standard" reaction time for us all, what is "normally" used when doing any calculations in crashes is a 1.5 second reaction time.

So either the Sergeant was alluding to his thoughts re the intelligence of the rider. Or perhaps he was using some standard that is used to pass prospective new police officers...

My jaw dropped reading the "2.5 second reaction time" today. WTF? How many of us would be here if this was true? Count out 2. 5 seconds, it's an age! Typical propaganda to give the drearie's & mouth breathers another bit of anti-bike rhetoric based on bullshit media sensationalism. Someone slap the knob who supplied the ammunition.

[bogan]

My jaw dropped reading the "2.5 second reaction time" today. WTF? How many of us would be here if this was true? Count out 2. 5 seconds, it's an age! Typical propaganda to give the drearie's & mouth breathers another bit of anti-bike rhetoric based on bullshit media sensationalism. Someone slap the knob who supplied the ammunition.

ahhh, they are obvioulsy judging that by how long it takes motorists to notice that the bloody trafics lights have changed color and you are sposed to stop now! Which article is that from, shud give them a rark up, 147m before reacting, what a crock.

[sinfull]

Nah that has to be so wrong, pretty sure it would only have taken the rider a split second of reaction time, to realise there was no point in slowing down !

[ManDownUnder]

It was me - made it on time too... I had an 11:15 appointment in the North Shore

[Blackflagged]

Why is this news?

Benifits Some to bring this up at present.

Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit told the Herald a crash at that velocity would be unsurvivable, and the rider's chance to react to an emergency in time would be cut dramatically.

[onearmedbandit]

Benifits Some to bring this up at present.

Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit told the Herald a crash at that velocity would be unsurvivable, and the rider's chance to react to an emergency in time would be cut dramatically.

I wonder if he thinks that hitting a stationary object at 100km/h is survivable?

[miloking]

For all we know this mystery bike is just like the 154km mystery ute (DOES NOT EXIST OR THE SPEED IS BS).....and all this is directive from above to soften up the public by implying the "bikers are menace" and they "all" ride dangerously before the Mr.Brown incident goes to court....
my point is if the only evidence of this bike is police unit as eye witness then why is this even in a paper?????

[Swoop]

My jaw dropped reading the "2.5 second reaction time" today. WTF?
Obviously the bullshit propaganda about "speed kills" is referring to the reaction times of people? You are not allowed to react swiftly...

Anyway, the Herald picture of the biker, is great!

[Bren]

Oh, it was not me...

The thing that pisses me off now are police in Otaki are now going to be "looking" for this rider, so now I will be under scrutiny....

[HenryDorsetCase]

I do not think that 200k+ speeds are what we should do in areas where other traffic is present. A empty road somwhere is not too bad. Most of us have done so.

But what I question is this quote from one of the articles: "Reaction time is 2.5 seconds which means 147m travelled before reacting." That statement is by Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit. Considering that "Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests." (Wikipedia), and considering that mean RT for college-age individuals is about 160 milliseconds to detect an auditory stimulus, and approximately 190 milliseconds to detect visual stimulus, his statement makes me think that it is all part of a conspiracy to grab any chance there is where a biker has acted wrongly, and then make it look even worse in the eye of the public.

As much as I disagree on a "standard" reaction time for us all, what is "normally" used when doing any calculations in crashes is a 1.5 second reaction time.

So either the Sergeant was alluding to his thoughts re the intelligence of the rider. Or perhaps he was using some standard that is used to pass prospective new police officers...

brilliant. send it to the meeeedia. see if you can get it published.

[nudemetalz]

Further developments:-

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3635496/Speeding-biker-may-have-disguised-plates

"A speeding motorcyclist who blasted past police at 210kmh may have used temporary plates to disguise his identity.

The red Ducati bike was spotted heading south on State Highway 1 near Otaki by a police patrol car travelling north about 9.30am yesterday.

The police officer did not give chase, a police communications spokesman said. "By the time the officer turned around it was long gone. It gets a bit dangerous when you're trying to follow something at 210 kilometres an hour."

In January, motorcyclist Leith David Barnes, 28, died when he crashed after leading police through Johnsonville at speeds estimated at 150kmh.

Dan Renner, who works at Horowhenua Motorcycles in Levin, said he saw a man on a red Ducati speed past the shop just before 9.30am yesterday.

He was doing 80kmh in a 30kmh zone, he said. "He was already going pretty fast."

The motorcycle had D, or dealer, plates attached.

Shop owner Rob Budd said police had asked if the business had any bikes or D-plates missing, but it did not.

It was possible the plates on the bike were expired or stolen, Mr Budd said. "There are probably hundreds of them out there."

D-plates were used by dealers to deliver, demonstrate or test- drive cars or motorbikes that were not registered, or by repairers working on vehicles that could not be registered or licensed until the repair was completed.

Transport Agency spokesman Andy Knackstedt said about 6600 current D-plates were in circulation. "A person may only use a trade plate for the purpose for which it has been issued."

Expired plates were supposed to be handed in, but there were still some floating around, he said. Lost or stolen plates should be reported to police, and anyone misusing a D-plate could be charged with operating an unregistered vehicle.

Mr Knackstedt said a motorcyclist crashing at 210kmh would have little chance of survival. "The bike would travel 93 metres before the rider could even apply the brakes."

[PirateJafa]

Mr Knackstedt said a motorcyclist crashing at 210kmh would have little chance of survival. "The bike would travel 93 metres before the rider could even apply the brakes."

I like how they assume that anyone travelling over 200km/h is clearly paying the same amount of attention to their driving/riding as little ol' grandma in her Honda City. And of course nobody ever premptively covers the brakes either? That would be maaaaaad. :rolleyes:

[shrub]

I'm assuming that he based that number on either personal experience (his reaction time) or on analysis of the average motorist. If so, I am going to lock my bike in the shed and never venture on the roads again. The thought that Mary Pajero takes 2.5 seconds to react to the red light in front of her, or that Constable Plodster takes 2.5 seconds to react to the passing ute is, frankly, terrifying. People who react that slowly should not be allowed in charge of mobility scooters, let alone 2 tonne blocks of steel and glass travelling at 30m per second.

As for the 272 m required to stop from 212 kmh, that's easy to beat - use the front brake as well as the back brake. And they may not have noticed, but bikes are less than 1m wide which mans they can go around or beside most hazards, unlike cars that have no choice but to hit said hazard.

Actually the thing that really worries me is that people who are so blatantly ignorant are supposed to be in charge of my safety on the road. Kind of like giving the surgeon's scalpal to a 1st year butchers apprentice.

[bogan]

Mr Knackstedt said a motorcyclist crashing at 210kmh would have little chance of survival. "The bike would travel 93 metres before the rider could even apply the brakes."

:lol: i wonder if joe public actually beleivs this crap (sad thing is they probly do :no:) does that mean at 100kmhr you have to wait 45m before applying the brakes?

In may cage doing 100 at night I had about 20m of warning before I hit a possum once (due to oncoming vehicle lights), in that time I managed to move my foot onto the brake, realise there was no way I could slow enough not to make a mess, and braking would have just dived the front and made it worse (so stopped myself applying the brakes), still made a fucking big dent in my number plate though, little bastard stuck his head up...

In any case, theres gotta be a lot of adrenaline and focus when you are doing 210kmhr, so using 1.6s reaction time is laughable.

[CookMySock]

The thing that pisses me off now are police in Otaki are now going to be "looking" for this rider, so now I will be under scrutiny....Hehe, thats an excellent opportunity to give the fuzz some attitude. They can look you up and down and you can just blow them the raspberry!

<img src="http://watchfulraven.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/infantile-thumb-nose.jpeg">

Steve

[Fatjim]

:lol: i wonder if joe public actually beleivs this crap

Actually, joe public tends to believe all that is written in the media unless they have first or second hand knowledge of the facts.

99% of what is written in the media is BS. Unfortunately, the average person only has knowledge of about 1%.

[Crazy Steve]

So who was in a big hurry to get to work this morning? 200k on SH1 (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3631503/Motorcyclist-hits-200kmh-on-State-Highway-1)

It was meeeeeee, Sorry New Zealand Police.

I was in a hurry, making a Meth run to Wellington from Auckland.

Again im sooo Sorry.

Crazy Steve.

[Hiflyer]

How do they know it's a red ducati?

I wonder if someones seen a red bike and gone

"Well it's not a cruiser so it's not a harley..... must be a ducati"

[nudemetalz]

Cause the dude in the bike shop saw a red Ducati go past at 80km/h and assumed it was the same one that was doing 210km/h...you know...2+2=4.3

[breakaway]

You and your mate should be very proud of yourselves right about now. It is wankers like you that drags the reputation of the rest of us down. Thanks for nothing!

Yeah cos speed kills right? I bet you slow down in corners just like the ads tell you to.

[NordieBoy]

And they may not have noticed, but bikes are less than 1m wide which mans they can go around or beside most hazards.

The exception seems to be ewe-turning police cars.

[miloking]

How do they know it's a red ducati?

I wonder if someones seen a red bike and gone

"Well it's not a cruiser so it's not a harley..... must be a ducati"

Well that too, but as it zoomed past at warp speed police noticed the unbearable clutch rattle and therefore cleverly recognized a ducati....
nah of course its bollocks, at 212 while sitting in a stationary car i couldnt tell you if it was a bird or a plane...and especialy what model of bike it was.
So either it was traveling much slower or someone is making up stories....i wonder if the local witness wasnt Mr.Wilkin the Moto racer

[Tank]

Unfortunately, the average person only has knowledge of about 1%.

Shame some people dont even have that. Those bastards are dangerous.

[Lula]

After reading this article published on the Herald website regarding the 'Police seek rider clocked at 212km/h': http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10641526

Firstly I agree that the road is no racetrack and speeding should be left for trackdays, and I am all for safety and for motorcycles to stay alive. I am however interested to know where Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit has his findings from in regards to a surviving a crash at that velocity and with what riding gear?

There is another side that should be considered which is the amount of research, effort and technology that manufacturers put into providing us with protective gear. His comment that ' there's not enough leather or protective gear that would save your skin at that speed' is a bold statement to make when there is no source or proof of that finding and then to say further in the article 'the only reason racing motorcyclists sometimes survived such high-speed spills was because of their protective gear' doesn't quite make sense to me especially when such gear is commonly made from the material called leather..?

Also on the braking comments made, with what motorcycle was that test or findings conducted from?
As the article made mention that there was the suggestion that it was fitted with with dealer plates perhaps someone was test riding one of the new sportsbikes that now comes out with some of the most advanced braking systems which can have a much more superior stopping power these days.

The other thing that I am interested to know is was it really a male riding this motorcycle or do they think females are incapable of riding at such speeds?

[peasea]

Kearns is obviously a fuckwit.

[blackdog]

nah of course its bollocks, at 212 while sitting in a stationary car i couldnt tell you if it was a bird or a plane...and especialy what model of bike it was.
So either it was traveling much slower or someone is making up stories...

sorry mate you're wrong. i can easily recognise most makes and models (especially say a 999) at closing speeds of well over 200kms (like 2 vehicles heading towards each other at 110km/h each)

blows that theory out da water :rofl:

[blackdog]

......... was it really a male riding this motorcycle or do they think females are incapable of riding at such speeds?

one of the first things to cross my mind.......

[simonnn]

ergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit told the Herald a crash at that velocity would be unsurvivable, and the rider's chance to react to an emergency in time would be cut dramatically.

Wrong there are dozens of riders all around the world who have survived 212+ get offs

"There's not enough leather or protective gear that would save your skin at that speed."

There is plenty of good gear that has proven its worth in 212+ get offs all around the world.

s the average driver reaction time is about 2.5 seconds, the rider would travel 147m before he could react to anything happening in front of him.

Wrong the average reaction time is a fraction of this.

[bogan]

Kearns is obviously a fuckwit.

that was my conclusion too!

[miloking]

sorry mate you're wrong. i can easily recognise most makes and models (especially say a 999) at closing speeds of well over 200kms (like 2 vehicles heading towards each other at say 110km/h each)

blows that theory out da water :rofl:

Well i dont have eagle eyes like you :D but if iam sitting in car on side of the road and something goes past me at 210Km/h i dont think i could tell you what it was and be %100 certain
...but obviously there are other factors to consider, like visibility on that day, position of the car relative to the road, knowledge of motorcycles etc...

[peasea]

that was my conclusion too!

Probably Tooman's drinking buddy. Or lover, or both.

[blackdog]

Well i dont have eagle eyes like you :D but if iam sitting in car on side of the road and something goes past me at 210Km/h i dont think i could tell you what it was and be %100 certain
...but obviously there are other factors to consider, like visibility on that day, position of the car relative to the road, knowledge of motorcycles etc...

so your ascertation that the rider must have been travelling much slower or someone was lying is tenuous at best

[miloking]

ergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit told the Herald a crash at that velocity would be unsurvivable, and the rider's chance to react to an emergency in time would be cut dramatically.

Wrong there are dozens of riders all around the world who have survived 212+ get offs

"There's not enough leather or protective gear that would save your skin at that speed."

There is plenty of good gear that has proven its worth in 212+ get offs all around the world.

s the average driver reaction time is about 2.5 seconds, the rider would travel 147m before he could react to anything happening in front of him.

Wrong the average reaction time is a fraction of this.

I think Mr.Kearnes just like MR.Tooman just a prove that NZ police has commenced all out war on Motorcyclists and are only interested to perpetuate their "speed kills" message to justify further revenue gathering...and quite possibly to take some heat off bad Police image in relation to road safety.

[scumdog]

As for the 272 m required to stop from 212 kmh, that's easy to beat - use the front brake as well as the back brake. And they may not have noticed, but bikes are less than 1m wide which mans they can go around or beside most hazards, unlike cars that have no choice but to hit said hazard.


True to a point but at 200kph+ 'swerving' is pretty limited - 'specially if an obstacle suddenly appear 80 metres or so ahead - and is moving ..not many milliseconds to figure out which way is the best way to go - and then go there.

[scumdog]

I think Mr.Kearnes just like MR.Tooman just a prove that NZ police has commenced all out war on Motorcyclists and are only interested to perpetuate their "speed kills" message to justify further revenue gathering...and quite possibly to take some heat off bad Police image in relation to road safety.

Can't wait to get out on the road and test that theory - oh and don't worry, I don't ride with a big banner saying "I'm on your side" flying behind me.

[miloking]

so your ascertation that the rider must have been travelling much slower or someone was lying is tenuous at best

Tenuous ..probably, but worth considering ..definately

[scumdog]

s the average driver reaction time is about 2.5 seconds, the rider would travel 147m before he could react to anything happening in front of him.

Wrong the average reaction time is a fraction of this.

Fark, 2.5 seconds is waayy faster than a lot of the drivers that I see are capable of!

And that's when they're sober.

[miloking]

Can't wait to get out on the road and test that theory - oh and don't worry, I don't ride with a big banner saying "I'm on your side" flying behind me.

Well, interesting that you mention that...iam sure you get treated the same way we do if you get pulled over...

[Stormer]

You and your mate should be very proud of yourselves right about now. It is wankers like you that drags the reputation of the rest of us down. Thanks for nothing!

Then I guess you`re calling a fair percentage of us here "wankers".
A quick passing manoeuvre on any good thou will have you up to 150 in no time.

Sheesh...I`m just gonna trade in me leathers for a flouro vest and flip top lid and try to increase our reputation (while NEVER exceeding the posted speed limit, like, y`know).

[scumdog]

Well, interesting that you mention that...iam sure you get treated the same way we do if you get pulled over...

Going by my present experience you might have a long wait before I'mm pulled over by the 5-0....

The last time I was actually pulled over was 1999, I have been stopped at booze-bus checkpoints since - then but that doesn't count..

[scumdog]

Well, interesting that you mention that...iam sure you get treated the same way we do if you get pulled over...

Going by my present experience you might have a long wait before I'mm pulled over by the 5-0....

The last time I was actually pulled over was 1999, I have been stopped at booze-bus checkpoints since - then but that doesn't count..

[miloking]

Going by my present experience you might have a long wait before I'mm pulled over by the 5-0....

The last time I was actually pulled over was 1999, I have been stopped at booze-bus checkpoints since - then but that doesn't count..

Hmm Do you still have to say your name and address at the booze bus stop...or you just do the "secret handshake" and you are off? :D

[red mermaid]

Have any of you considered that quite a few Highway Patrol staff are motorcyclists, and therefore very fimiliar with makes and models of bikes.

Also they spend the majority of their day observing vehicles.

No, of course not, because as usual all the 'experts' have crawled out of their keyboards to pronounce on something they know nothing about.

[onearmedbandit]

I wonder how many motorcyclists went over 200km/h today?

[shrub]

True to a point but at 200kph+ 'swerving' is pretty limited - 'specially if an obstacle suddenly appear 80 metres or so ahead - and is moving ..not many milliseconds to figure out which way is the best way to go - and then go there.

At 200 kmh swerving is something to be avoided. I'm more thinking of the hazard several hundred metres down the road that our friendly Poliss Cuntstable was convinced the wicked biker was going to hit. Not that I've ever ridden that fast of course (I never ride faster than 100 kmh because it's naughty), but if I ever did I'm sure that I could lose enough speed over a fairly short distance to be able to find an escape route. Last time I looked at my bike it had a couple of big discs on the front, and it didn't weight as much as the Cuntstabularies Holden Commodes do, so I reckon if I was every crazy enough to go over 100 kmh I could slow down quite quickly. I also reckon that most experienced motorbicyclists have a hell of a lot more skill and better control over their braking than citizens with their "stomp on the pedal and leave it to the ABS" approach.

[peasea]

Also they spend the majority of their day observing vehicles.

Not in the Waikato they don't! :slap: :rofl::rofl:

[Hiflyer]

At 200 kmh swerving is something to be avoided. I'm more thinking of the hazard several hundred metres down the road that our friendly Poliss Cuntstable was convinced the wicked biker was going to hit. Not that I've ever ridden that fast of course (I never ride faster than 100 kmh because it's naughty), but if I ever did I'm sure that I could lose enough speed over a fairly short distance to be able to find an escape route. Last time I looked at my bike it had a couple of big discs on the front, and it didn't weight as much as the Cuntstabularies Holden Commodes do, so I reckon if I was every crazy enough to go over 100 kmh I could slow down quite quickly. I also reckon that most experienced motorbicyclists have a hell of a lot more skill and better control over their braking than citizens with their "stomp on the pedal and leave it to the ABS" approach.

Not tryna be a dick, but in a bike mag a while back they did a braking test and a holden astra out brakes a late model CBR 600RR from 60 km/h and 100 km/h. Could be something to think about.

(Not just you, all the people that think their bikes are awesome)

[Toaster]

due to the obvious futility knowing that by the time said turn was completed the bike was already in waikanae........

More like Picton!! At that speed he could skim over the waves!

[bogan]

Fark, 2.5 seconds is waayy faster than a lot of the drivers that I see are capable of!

And that's when they're sober.

yeh but they are drivers, a biker doing 200kmhr, I would hope is reaction times would be under a second (bet he hopes so too!)

he we go! (http://getyourwebsitehere.com/jswb/rttest01.html)

I got 0.2552s could be interesting to see what others get. And yes I am aware times are different when you aren't expecting things.

[shrub]

Have any of you considered that quite a few Highway Patrol staff are motorcyclists

I'm sure they are, so why do they let halfwits who have no idea blather on about 2.5 second reaction times and 212 kmh spills being "unsurvivable". My fastest off was around 180 and I survived that even though I wasn't wearing a helmet and I hit roadside furniture (an outside toilet as it happens - kind of fitting). And yes, it took stupidity to a new dimension, but in those days I was pretty stupid. Actually I'm still sometimes stupid, only now I wear a helmet and don't hit outside toilets.

[shrub]

Not tryna be a dick, but in a bike mag a while back they did a braking test and a holden astra out brakes a late model CBR 600RR from 60 km/h and 100 km/h. Could be something to think about.

Yeah, I've heard that, but I've also heard the other side that bikes can out brake cars. They have much more rubber on the road, but we have a fraction of the weight and E=MC2 etc

I think there's also the matter of skill and technique. I think most experienced bikers are better riders than almost all car drivers are drivers - if that makes sense. Most bikers know all about braking, target fixation, apexing etc, whereas car drivers know about pointing and changing CDs.

[GOONR]

yeh but they are drivers, a biker doing 200kmhr, I would hope is reaction times would be under a second (bet he hopes so too!)

he we go! (http://getyourwebsitehere.com/jswb/rttest01.html)

I got 0.2552s could be interesting to see what others get. And yes I am aware times are different when you aren't expecting things.

.....

0.2472

[blackdog]

yeh but they are drivers, a biker doing 200kmhr, I would hope is reaction times would be under a second (bet he hopes so too!)

he we go! (http://getyourwebsitehere.com/jswb/rttest01.html)

I got 0.2552s could be interesting to see what others get. And yes I am aware times are different when you aren't expecting things.

good one :)

average 0.24619* with a best of 0.225

i reckon a blink would cost you another tenth or so

he MUST have meant .25 of a second :lol:

[peasea]

yeh but they are drivers, a biker doing 200kmhr, I would hope is reaction times would be under a second (bet he hopes so too!)

he we go! (http://getyourwebsitehere.com/jswb/rttest01.html)

I got 0.2552s could be interesting to see what others get. And yes I am aware times are different when you aren't expecting things.

My average? .2374 with three .203's in a row. And I'm an old codger.

[blackdog]

My average? .2374 with three .203's in a row. And I'm an old codger.

ahh pokerstars must be slowing my machine down :rofl:

what was ur slowest? mine was my first @ 0.258

[peasea]

ahh pokerstars must be slowing my machine down :rofl:

what was ur slowest? mine was my first @ 0.258

Are you sure it's not PORN stars?
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[Smifffy]

ahh porn-stars must be slowing my machine down :rofl:

what was ur slowest? mine was my first @ 0.258


Fixed that for you :rofl:

[blackdog]

Are you sure it's not PORN stars?

dont be silly! can't watch that stuff and operate mouse at the same time.......

[Smifffy]

Bah - beaten to it.

[peasea]

dont be silly! can't watch that stuff and operate mouse at the same time.......

I'll bet you're fiddling with something though.

[peasea]

Bah - beaten to it.

So was he; beatin to it.

[blackdog]

pmsl........touche mudder fudder

[marty]

yeh but they are drivers, a biker doing 200kmhr, I would hope is reaction times would be under a second (bet he hopes so too!)

he we go! (http://getyourwebsitehere.com/jswb/rttest01.html)

I got 0.2552s could be interesting to see what others get. And yes I am aware times are different when you aren't expecting things.

Check this out:

www.lemonparty.org

[bogan]

Also interesting to note that studies have been done linking reaction times to IQ levels, those with lower reaction times also have lower IQ as the brain operates on a more basic and un-evolved level, however as more options are added tot he test the more intelligent regain the upper hand for reaction times.

[peasea]

Check this out:

www.lemonparty.org

I wondered what you got up to after hours (in Hawera)

[miloking]

Check this out:

www.lemonparty.org

...i gotta stop clicking on random shit on the net, seriously why would you do that??

[peasea]

Fuck, here comes PD......................
Quick! BOT!

[marty]

...i gotta stop clicking on random shit on the net, seriously why would you do that??

how many seconds did it take for you to react to it and close it down?

[peasea]

how many seconds did it take for you to react to it and close it down?

That's a really sick joke. Well done. Am forwarding link to all.....

[beyond]

They make it sound so bad and so mad. Most modern bikes are idling at 200kmh and by the time you find sixth you're way above that.
When you're way above that your reaction times is virtually non existent... it's immediate or it's all over rover.

[peasea]

They make it sound so bad and so mad. Most modern bikes are idling at 200kmh and by the time you find sixth you're way above that.
When you're way above that your reaction times is virtually non existent... it's immediate or it's all over rover.

Yeah, got some mates who were into superbikes for a while, knocked on 300 on occasion, they often told tales of how 200 seemed slow after a good thrash and felt like putting the stand down at 100. I suppose it's like getting out of a fighter plane and going home in a Cessna.

[marty]

what if it was a Cessna fighter plane?

[simonnn]

Its not just any speed that kills according to our expert Kearnes its any speed =>212kmh.

[specter]

And a witness says "it sounded like it was going weally weally faaaaaaast" so it must have been speeding!

probably just a loud screamer banging it through 1st and 2nd

[beyond]

Yeah, got some mates who were into superbikes for a while, knocked on 300 on occasion, they often told tales of how 200 seemed slow after a good thrash and felt like putting the stand down at 100. I suppose it's like getting out of a fighter plane and going home in a Cessna.

Exactly. Once you're used to travelling at a high speed anything less seems real slow. BUT conversely your reaction times and concentration increases to way higher levels.

[peasea]

what if it was a Cessna fighter plane?

Common as muck.

[peasea]

Exactly. Once you're used to travelling at a high speed anything less seems real slow. BUT conversely your reaction times and concentration increases to way higher levels.

Yuppo. Had a thrash from The HOG Nat's in ChCh to Methven earlier this year (in the V8, not on the bike, long story) following a mate in another V8 Holden at 200 for ages... coming back into the 50k zone seemed positively pedestrian.

[scumdog]

At 200 kmh swerving is something to be avoided. I'm more thinking of the hazard several hundred metres down the road that our friendly Poliss Cuntstable was convinced the wicked biker was going to hit.


Trouble is: nobody told the hazard that it must be 'several hundred metres' down the road....all it takes is somebody that sees (if you're lucky!) a motorbike in the distance and thinks "Meh, tons of time to swap lanes/ turn across the road/do a U-turn etc..

[miloking]

how many seconds did it take for you to react to it and close it down?

It was pretty swift, also accelerated by the fact that Iam at work right now and there are still people in the office :D

[Insanity_rules]

I was a wanker once.....now I just wank.

Pictures or it didn't happen!!!!

I never speed myself "wink wink"

[marty]

It was pretty swift, also accelerated by the fact that Iam at work right now and there are still people in the office :D

0.025 second?

or closer to 2?

[dpex]

WQell, there ya go Scum, the orders from on high have filtered through. :--)) Hell's teeth, you cops might start acting like citizens if this keeps up.

But what about the crap spouted? The average reaction time is 2.4 seconds. Bullshit! In 2.4 seconds I can eat half a pizza while changing down from six to two.

Then..."The rider would have to have seen a threat half a K away?" Yeah right.

On puke, from the one hundred metre marker after the straight into the hairpin, we all have to come down from 250-plus to 60/80...in one hundred meters...which 'most' of us do, regularly. The top boys are pulling down from 300 in the same distance.

Yet your bosses rabbit on with nothing more than polispeak, designed to add to the bullshit story that speed kills.

This 'Speed Kills' crap has to be the most pentafrastic argument ever mounted. like speed, of itself, kills. Crap. Bad management of something which is moving at a necessary velocity to kill, kills.

I am so sick and tired of this nanny state shit asserting that everything kills so we shouldn't do it. Eating, smoking, doing drugs, mountain climbing, climbing a ladder, zipping along on a bike at X-Ks, using salt, drinking coffee, and so the list of 'killers' goes on.

Why don't we all agree to do absolutely nothing which may cause us to die early" Go Vegan lest a burger may fuck up our veins, and generally live a perfect life till we toddled off to death, having cost the tax-payer gazillions of dollars to keep us alive in our useless dotage?

Yeah. That's a great scheme. Remove the fun from life but have a long, funless life.

The thing which seems to have bypassed so many is......We are allowed to be stupid. We are required by the law of natural selection to take chances. We are humans with no other purpose on this planet than to have fun.

Why do your bosses carry on propounding this shit? All it does is cost you...the cop on the beat, chalking up speeding tickets to fulfill your quota....more credibility.

[miloking]

0.025 second?

or closer to 2?

nah more around 0.3 ... and it was still too long! :D
Actualy kind of still have the image burned into my eyes...like looking into bright light!

[miloking]

WQell, there ya go Scum, the orders from on high have filtered through. :--)) Hell's teeth, you cops might start acting like citizens if this keeps up.

But what about the crap spouted? The average reaction time is 2.4 seconds. Bullshit! In 2.4 seconds I can eat half a pizza while changing down from six to two.

Then..."The rider would have to have seen a threat half a K away?" Yeah right.

On puke, from the one hundred metre marker after the straight into the hairpin, we all have to come down from 250-plus to 60/80...in one hundred meters...which 'most' of us do, regularly. The top boys are pulling down from 300 in the same distance.

Yet your bosses rabbit on with nothing more than polispeak, designed to add to the bullshit story that speed kills.

This 'Speed Kills' crap has to be the most pentafrastic argument ever mounted. like speed, of itself, kills. Crap. Bad management of something which is moving at a necessary velocity to kill, kills.

I am so sick and tired of this nanny state shit asserting that everything kills so we shouldn't do it. Eating, smoking, doing drugs, mountain climbing, climbing a ladder, zipping along on a bike at X-Ks, using salt, drinking coffee, and so the list of 'killers' goes on.

Why don't we all agree to do absolutely nothing which may cause us to die early" Go Vegan lest a burger may fuck up our veins, and generally live a perfect life till we toddled off to death, having cost the tax-payer gazillions of dollars to keep us alive in our useless dotage?

Yeah. That's a great scheme. Remove the fun from life but have a long, funless life.

The thing which seems to have bypassed so many is......We are allowed to be stupid. We are required by the law of natural selection to take chances. We are humans with no other purpose on this planet than to have fun.

Why do your bosses carry on propounding this shit? All it does is cost you...the cop on the beat, chalking up speeding tickets to fulfill your quota....more credibility.


I agree with you!
but...you cant get all philosophical and deep & meaningful with cops, they dont understand that.
When you try to tell them that "taking chances" is crucial part our basic instinct and that we evolved to do that,
they simply wont uderstand because most of them barely finished 6th form or are just as brain washed themselves.

On the other hand their bosses arent as stupid as you think...this message of "speed kills" pretty much guarantees them continous funding from govt and jobs security, as long as they manage to convince general public.

[scumdog]

Maybe somebody moved the point: maybe it was actualy .24 seconds.

And off the race-track most people aren't always key'd up and ready for a potential disaster - probably more likely to be thinking "Man this is fun, I wonder if my girfriends at home, man I bet I look cool" and shit like that.

[shrub]

Trouble is: nobody told the hazard that it must be 'several hundred metres' down the road....all it takes is somebody that sees (if you're lucky!) a motorbike in the distance and thinks "Meh, tons of time to swap lanes/ turn across the road/do a U-turn etc..

Only thing is, if there is a cop ahead the biker will be on their brakes hard before the cop has a chance to do a U turn in front of them.

I agree though, nobody should EVER go faster than 109 kmh, even overtaking. At 109 kmh one is completely safe and at no risk from anything (except maybe being taken by space aliens and getting probed) but at 110 kmh death is no longer a possibility; it's a certainty.

[imdying]

Maybe somebody moved the point: maybe it was actualy .24 seconds.Nah, waiting for a virtual light in a small place that is going to go off in under 7 seconds is absolutely no indicator of reaction times on the road. I reckon 2.5 seconds isn't that far off from the average person riding home, thinking about their dinner.

[Conquiztador]

yeh but they are drivers, a biker doing 200kmhr, I would hope is reaction times would be under a second (bet he hopes so too!)

he we go! (http://getyourwebsitehere.com/jswb/rttest01.html)

I got 0.2552s could be interesting to see what others get. And yes I am aware times are different when you aren't expecting things.

0.2122 + 10 char

[shrub]

Maybe somebody moved the point: maybe it was actualy .24 seconds.

And off the race-track most people aren't always key'd up and ready for a potential disaster - probably more likely to be thinking "Man this is fun, I wonder if my girfriends at home, man I bet I look cool" and shit like that.

Not that I've ever ridden faster than 109 kmh, but if I did I know I'd be completely focussed on the road, potential hazards (that car coming along the sideroad ahead of me - it's travelling too fast to stop), white Commodes doing U turns etc. In fact I'd be completely focussed on riding, and that's why they reckon road tolls increase when speed limits go down - people relax and stop concentrating.

I wonder which is safer: a mad, crazy biker travelling at 140 kmh and completely focussed on what he's doing, or Mary Pajero travelling at 105 kmh while she eats her lunch and has a chat to the front seat passenger while keeping an eye on the kids in the backseat with her cunningly adjusted rear vision mirror? (woman can multi taskl you know).

Silly question! Mary Pajero of course, she's not speeding!

And if you're more interested in how you look than what it feels like to ride your bike, I suggest giving up riding because you're missing the point.

[peasea]

turn across the road/do a U-turn etc..

What can I say.......?

[peasea]

0.2122 + 10 char

Coz this is addictive,
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[peasea]

Maybe somebody moved the point: maybe it was actualy .24 seconds.

Or maybe the cop moved the point and it was actually 21.4kph!

[Ixion]

My average? .2374 with three .203's in a row. And I'm an old codger.

.219 average, two .209. And I'm ancient. Youf should be way under 0.2

[bogan]

Coz this is addictive,
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didnt you read my earlier post? the faster you go, the less intelligent you are, gawd I'm starting to sound like a cop!

[peasea]

0.047

Who's ya (iggorant) daddy?

[peasea]

.219 average, two .209. And I'm ancient. Youf should be way under 0.2

Bet I'm older than you, so there nyah, nyah.

[Ixion]

I got a 054, with a best of .001. I found the trick too.

[peasea]

I got a 054, with a best of .001. I found the trick too.

There you go, age and cunning............

[peasea]

didnt you read my earlier post? the faster you go, the less intelligent you are, gawd I'm starting to sound like a cop!

Don't do that; we'll have to shoot you, in the face.

[Elysium]

I'm guessing an 1098 or 1198 here. On a serious note I hope the wanker gets caught in the end as a crash would've been more ammo for Nick Smith.

[Morcs]

I hope the wanker gets caught in the end as a crash would've been more ammo for Nick Smith.

Hardly makes a difference. If he were caught it would be more ammo still. Considering a lot of people clock those speeds quite regularly and are most likely a minority group in crash figures (probably outnumbered by noobs and the anal retentive types that wear high vis vests)

My best reaction time recorded at the drags is 0.0001

[Swoop]

what if it was a Cessna fighter plane?
No such thing.

[Blackflagged]

[QUOTE= Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit told the Herald a crash at that velocity would be unsurvivable, and the rider's chance to react to an emergency in time would be cut dramatically.[/QUOTE]

More often than not , he would be Right!

[blueblade]

A few years ago I was with a group touring - or should I say RACING around the South Island. At one point I was leading a bunch of about 10 bikes. Was doing well over the limit and came across a small crest to see a cop coming in the other direction. He got a hell of a shock - as did I and by the time he had flicked on the radar and lights I was way past. Saw him skid to a halt in a cloud of dust on the side of the road preparing to do the Uey. Just at that moment the rest of the group came flying past him. In the end he just sat there and didnt move. Kept looking in my mirrors for an awfully long time though.

We all had a good laugh about it later that day....

Two days later one of our group was killed instantly in a head on smash at very high speed with a small tourist van. One of the occupants of the van was trapped for a while and injured.

The cops who attended did an awesome job of helping, consoling, comforting and organising counselling (victim support ???) etc for us and acted in an utterly professional and unjudgmental fashion.

It totally changed my attitude to road riding and my opinion of cops out on the road. They are the ones who get to clean up the mess when we get it wrong. They see the devastating results of high speed collisions on a fairly regular basis - if we are lucky its never, or a once in a lifetime thing.

Dont bother telling me what you think of cops (in general) until you have been through an experience like that and seen what they have to deal with on a regular basis

[carver]

Hehe, what about this one?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10640026

Carver?


Steve


Originally Posted by DangerousBastard
Hehe, what about this one?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10640026

Carver?




This was a stolen bike ,my bosses drz400e,the rider got away for a little while before the doggie got him ,

shame it didnt bite him , should be mandatory for thieving bike SCUM



sidewinder....

[motor_mayhem]

Didn't anyone tell that person Mr Fusion only requires you to go 88 mph..

[Bad Gixxer]

come on Mom thats a bit harsh. well a lot harsh...theres a hell of a lot of people on here that do those sort of speeds and more.

Didn't sound like he was bragging, just stating the facts re loss of licence speeds.

Thanks nallac, for so eloquently replying to MOM and pointing out that i was merely stating a fact as to how demerit points and license suspension works. I would have replied much less diplomatically and probably suggested that it's probably riders like MOM who wind up as traffic statistics. The reason i say that MOM is that i firmly believe that unless you're able to ride a bike safely and in a controlled manner at speed, take the time to study the dynamics and physics of motorcycling, take lessons from professionals on the track, learn how ro brake with your back wheel in the air from 300klm/h, trail your rear brake in a 190klm bend, and other braggish stuff like that, well this is what happens.......riders who treat riding a bike like a hobby tend to have difficulty exiting themselves from a reasonably straight forward "tricky situation" and bin their bikes or hit the pole/tree/car/bus/truck/brick wall, or go sailing over the bluff. Wheras if you take the time to aquire real skills, the same situation will probably be a non event. If you want to put round at 100klm, then good luck to you. And please feel free to critisize me for riding at speeds in excess of the legally posted limit, you have every right to do so....but don't be abusive and start name calling - i won't lower myself to your standards and retaliate by calling you an equally offensive name - only a Retarded F***wit would call somebody a wanker without provocation. Have a happy day :-)

[HenryDorsetCase]

A few years ago I was with a group touring - or should I say RACING around the South Island. At one point I was leading a bunch of about 10 bikes. Was doing well over the limit and came across a small crest to see a cop coming in the other direction. He got a hell of a shock - as did I and by the time he had flicked on the radar and lights I was way past. Saw him skid to a halt in a cloud of dust on the side of the road preparing to do the Uey. Just at that moment the rest of the group came flying past him. In the end he just sat there and didnt move. Kept looking in my mirrors for an awfully long time though.

We all had a good laugh about it later that day....

Two days later one of our group was killed instantly in a head on smash at very high speed with a small tourist van. One of the occupants of the van was trapped for a while and injured.

The cops who attended did an awesome job of helping, consoling, comforting and organising counselling (victim support ???) etc for us and acted in an utterly professional and unjudgmental fashion.

It totally changed my attitude to road riding and my opinion of cops out on the road. They are the ones who get to clean up the mess when we get it wrong. They see the devastating results of high speed collisions on a fairly regular basis - if we are lucky its never, or a once in a lifetime thing.

Dont bother telling me what you think of cops (in general) until you have been through an experience like that and seen what they have to deal with on a regular basis

You are far too sensible and serious to be posting on the internets. Please go and have four or five Jack Daniels and come back when you are able to participate at the expected level.

[blueblade]

Yeah I know and I dont usually bother - just been getting really pissed off with all the ridiculous cop bashing threads on here lately. And I also realise that all the people that need to hear it most will take absolutely no notice of posts like mine

[Elysium]

So anyone know what bike this was being used/stolen?

[shrub]

Dont bother telling me what you think of cops (in general) until you have been through an experience like that and seen what they have to deal with on a regular basis

Just before Christmas I watched a good man die on the side of the road. He came off at around 100 kmh, was wearing top kit and didn't hit any road furniture, and the cops, ambos and fire crew who turned up were legends.

I think my problem is that speed has become a silver bullet - if you're speeding you'll die, therefore if you're not speeding you're not in any real danger and our Cuntstables enforce that ideology with an almost religious fervour. I have ridden bikes at 212 kmh and faster, and been at less risk of meeting the good baby Jesus than riding my treadlie at 20 kmh and it may be that the legendary Ducati rider was a highly skilled rider who took a very measured risk and was relatively safe (I say relatively because the only completely safe speed is locked up in the shed), or he could be a noob who got his hands on a superbike for a blat and was riding waaaaaaaay past his safety level - or somewhere in the middle.

Personally I think speed limits are nanny state protectionism, and evidence is overwhelming that they are more of a barrier to safety than a solution. I believe that they are a self-justifying mechanism to raise revenue and give lip service to the real issue impacting road safety which is the ridiculously unskilled road users everywhere, and with that the appallingly cavalier attitude people have towards the process of driving 2 tonnes of steel and glass at 30m per second. My friends all laugh, but I hate driving my car because I think it's incredibly dangerous and feel much safer on my bike. Not just my own safety, but I am terrified of being one of those citizens who drives through a red light because a song I hated had just come on and I had to change the channel, or I dropped a hot pie on my crotch and was more worried about my toasting nads than the terrified biker heading straight for me.

[bogan]

Yeah I know and I dont usually bother - just been getting really pissed off with all the ridiculous cop bashing threads on here lately. And I also realise that all the people that need to hear it most will take absolutely no notice of posts like mine

It only a minority that get stuck in on the cop bashing threads, and even then usually somebody adds a well thought out post explaining that cops are bound by policy and its the policies that need to change etc, though in an ideal world it would be the cops that are the first to realise that policies need to change and start the ball rolling themselves....


Just before Christmas I watched a good man die on the side of the road. He came off at around 100 kmh, was wearing top kit and didn't hit any road furniture, and the cops, ambos and fire crew who turned up were legends.

I think my problem is that speed has become a silver bullet - if you're speeding you'll die, therefore if you're not speeding you're not in any real danger and our Cuntstables enforce that ideology with an almost religious fervour. I have ridden bikes at 212 kmh and faster, and been at less risk of meeting the good baby Jesus than riding my treadlie at 20 kmh and it may be that the legendary Ducati rider was a highly skilled rider who took a very measured risk and was relatively safe (I say relatively because the only completely safe speed is locked up in the shed), or he could be a noob who got his hands on a superbike for a blat and was riding waaaaaaaay past his safety level - or somewhere in the middle.

Personally I think speed limits are nanny state protectionism, and evidence is overwhelming that they are more of a barrier to safety than a solution. I believe that they are a self-justifying mechanism to raise revenue and give lip service to the real issue impacting road safety which is the ridiculously unskilled road users everywhere, and with that the appallingly cavalier attitude people have towards the process of driving 2 tonnes of steel and glass at 30m per second. My friends all laugh, but I hate driving my car because I think it's incredibly dangerous and feel much safer on my bike. Not just my own safety, but I am terrified of being one of those citizens who drives through a red light because a song I hated had just come on and I had to change the channel, or I dropped a hot pie on my crotch and was more worried about my toasting nads than the terrified biker heading straight for me.

completely agree, it is ridiculous that the public feels 100kmhr is safe, but 120 is dangerous, the signs saying 100kmhr is not are target are ridiculous, all this speed kills campaigning has made 100kmhr the target, no more, no less, don't worry about the conditions, 100kmhr is safe.

And yeh, I have the same problem in my van, no feel for the road, can't see shit, other people are definetely safer when I'm on my bike, and I wouldnt be surprised if I was too.

[StoneY]

Thanks nallac, for so eloquently replying to MOM and pointing out that i was merely stating a fact as to how demerit points and license suspension works. I would have replied much less diplomatically and probably suggested that it's probably riders like MOM who wind up as traffic statistics. - i won't lower myself to your standards and retaliate by calling you an equally offensive name - only a Retarded F***wit would call somebody a wanker without provocation. Have a happy day :-)

You have NO idea how Anne (aka MOM) rides. Or her involvemnt in road safety and ACC campaigns over the past few years

Your post is a braggish piece of self inflatoray dribble.. and you deserve to be called a wanker for advocating such behaviour on public roads
Braking from 300kmh with your back wheel in the air.... how the hell does this contribute to ROAD safety or keeping ya license? Your the sort of rider who justifies Nick Smiths take on our road habits

19 posts, been here a few weeks, dude, there are plenty of motorcycle instructors and riders with years and years of 'hobbying' on this forum, members of BRONZ and other organisations that try to IMPROVE our record

212kmh on SH1-
Anyone doing these speeds on a public road is a fuckhead (and that includes myself when I have done such as well)

[Kittyhawk]

Pictures or it didn't happen!!!!

I never speed myself "wink wink"

Cant post up pics, dont want your keyboard getting all messy.

[StoneY]

I'm guessing an 1098 or 1198 here. On a serious note I hope the wanker gets caught in the end as a crash would've been more ammo for Nick Smith.

LOL no point trying to guess the model...
My ST4 can do well over 200k, as can my mates 696 Monster and another mates older 800 Monster.... Ducati's go FAST theres no evidence it was this model or that model

I mean ffs a decent 250 can hold 220 or so these days

I agree on the ammo for Nyx Myth, either scenario of 'he crashes' or 'gets caught' is bad news, bikers get a bad rap at a time we DO NOT NEED more negative publicity

My take is: dont speed outrageously on SH1 or any other main trunk highway
We all know plenty of quiet long open roads where we can play with less visibility and risk (not much less but less all the same)
Really, it should be saved for track days (TUI AD)

We ALL open the throttle up now and then, some more than others and I too (who SHOULD know better) have often done ridiculous speeds on public roads

But SH1 at 9ish in the morning........ no ammount of skill and experience can make that safe.

[HenryDorsetCase]

You have NO idea how Anne (aka MOM) rides. Or her involvemnt in road safety and ACC campaigns over the past few years

Your post is a braggish piece of self inflatoray dribble.. and you deserve to be called a wanker for advocating such behaviour on public roads
Braking from 300kmh with your back wheel in the air.... how the hell does this contribute to ROAD safety or keeping ya license? Your the sort of rider who justifies Nick Smiths take on our road habits

19 posts, been here a few weeks, dude, there are plenty of motorcycle instructors and riders with years and years of 'hobbying' on this forum, members of BRONZ and other organisations that try to IMPROVE our record

212kmh on SH1-
Anyone doing these speeds on a public road is a fuckhead (and that includes myself when I have done such as well)

I particularly like that neologism: "infloratory" presumably an amalgamation of "inflammable" and "oratory". Excellent! My only quibble is that "oratory" tends to refer to the spoken word, rather than written. Kudos!

[Fatjim]

The difference between 200kph+ at 9am in the morning on SH1 and 3pm Sunday out the back of Alfredton is what legends are made of. Nothing more.

[StoneY]

I particularly like that neologism: "infloratory" presumably an amalgamation of "inflammable" and "oratory". Excellent! My only quibble is that "oratory" tends to refer to the spoken word, rather than written. Kudos!

Hehe my english sux but im sure you got my drift

[HenryDorsetCase]

212kmh on SH1-
Anyone doing these speeds on a public road is a fuckhead (and that includes myself when I have done such as well)

Hopefully it was a dude on a testride. Ride it like you rented it.

One last thing: you know how people know you are a rider when they're not, and they send you gruesome photos of motorcycle accidents? Like the guy impaled into the back of the truck? I hate that shit, and am pretty squeamish at the best of times, but the one that made me very queasy indeed was one where a guy had in fact come off at an estimated 180, and hit some armco. See that boot over there? still got a foot in it. See the helmet, you guessed it, had a head in it, torso with no limbs. Guy was wearing a Dainese suit and boots IIRC. But speed didnt kill him, it was the sudden stop.

I was young once and stupid and did stupid shit like eveyone here who is honest. I was lucky, and now I am hopefully less stupid. But focussing on speed as the "Be all and end all" of road safety; bollocsk.

I agree entirely with this


Personally I think speed limits are nanny state protectionism, and evidence is overwhelming that they are more of a barrier to safety than a solution. I believe that they are a self-justifying mechanism to raise revenue and give lip service to the real issue impacting road safety which is the ridiculously unskilled road users everywhere, and with that the appallingly cavalier attitude people have towards the process of driving 2 tonnes of steel and glass at 30m per second.

[StoneY]

Hopefully it was a dude on a testride. Ride it like you rented it.


I was young once and stupid and did stupid shit like eveyone here who is honest. I was lucky, and now I am hopefully less stupid. But focussing on speed as the "Be all and end all" of road safety; bollocsk.



Speed may not be the be all and end all of road safety, but 200kmh+ on a public road is fucking with EVERYONES safety, no other way to see it.

The speed limit isnt just to keep the rider safe you know, also the car trying to pull out and merge from that rural road 300m ahead....at 60m a second that guy would have cut the car in half with no chance to swerve or brake in time

All the bravado about 'I can speed safely' is utter bullshit............... save it for the fuckin racetrack where there are no other road users that can anticipate and judge the fact that headlight coming down the road is travelling twice as fast as they THINK and EXPECT it to be, coz a fast bike moving toward you at 60m a second looks no different to one douing 30m a second for jo public and THATS the issue, not how good the rider is.....


Like it or not its the speed limit and its the law, crying about how good you think you are is just crap unless you have the race trophies to back your ego up and prove how fuckin wonderful you can ride at 200kmh and over............... ( i know I dont)

[steve_t]

save it for the fuckin racetrack

+1 :niceone:

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[sinfull]

Perhaps the guy does have the trophies to back it up !

[StoneY]

Perhaps the guy does have the trophies to back it up !

If he does, it still does not justify that speed on that section of road with all the other feed roads that come onto it as well.
You know something about this no one else does Bill??? :lol:

[sinfull]

:shutup:..........

[nodrog]

Speed may not be the be all and end all of road safety, but 200kmh+ on a public road is fucking with EVERYONES safety, no other way to see it.

The speed limit isnt just to keep the rider safe you know, also the car trying to pull out and merge from that rural road 300m ahead....at 60m a second that guy would have cut the car in half with no chance to swerve or brake in time

All the bravado about 'I can speed safely' is utter bullshit............... save it for the fuckin racetrack where there are no other road users that can anticipate and judge the fact that headlight coming down the road is travelling twice as fast as they THINK and EXPECT it to be, coz a fast bike moving toward you at 60m a second looks no different to one douing 30m a second for jo public and THATS the issue, not how good the rider is.....


Like it or not its the speed limit and its the law, crying about how good you think you are is just crap unless you have the race trophies to back your ego up and prove how fuckin wonderful you can ride at 200kmh and over............... ( i know I dont)

yep speed kills, thats why all those germans have to show their race licenses before they travel on the autobahn.

[HenryDorsetCase]

yep speed kills, thats why all those germans have to show their race licenses before they travel on the autobahn.

Yes because there are extraordinary similarities between the german unrestriced autobahn, snd SH1 by Levin. both are road, and both link places with other places, just for starters.

[grusomhat]

yep speed kills, thats why all those germans have to show their race licenses before they travel on the autobahn.

what a pathetic argument

[nodrog]

what a pathetic argument

no its not you tool, speed does not kill, the enviroment it is done in does. nobody has burst into fuckin flames from exceeding a posted speed limit.

[Fatjim]

what a pathetic argument

What a pathetic argument.

[Ixion]

no its not you tool, speed does not kill, the enviroment it is done in does. nobody has burst into fuckin flames from exceeding a posted speed limit.

Have so too. Vladimir Mikhailovich Komarov for one. Admittedly he was going quite fast, and not near Levin.

[StoneY]

yep speed kills, thats why all those germans have to show their race licenses before they travel on the autobahn.

Lets see...

Autobahn, engineered by the most anally retentive engineers in the world to be SAFE at speed, no side roads, no old decrepit jap import deisels wheezing out of rural driveways........ cops that prosecute ya for road rage if you flip another motorist the bird........

SH1 near Levin........ pffft not even engineered just the path the dirrt track used to follow coz it was flattest for the bullock teams............and still as lumpy!

[nodrog]

Lets see...

Autobahn, engineered by the most anally retentive engineers in the world to be SAFE at speed, no side roads, no old decrepit jap import deisels wheezing out of rural driveways........ cops that prosecute ya for road rage if you flip another motorist the bird........

SH1 near Levin........ pffft not even engineered just the path the dirrt track used to follow coz it was flattest for the bullock teams............and still as lumpy!

so the enviroment is the danger, not the speed?

you catch on pretty quick.

[StoneY]

so the enviroment is the danger, not the speed?

you catch on pretty quick.

Mate I never doubted it OR said Speed was 'the danger', did I?
I said speeds like this on THAT road were ridiculous and dangerous regardless of rider skill......

When Radio NZ call me for comments on this sort of stuff I HAVE to play the moderate law abiding concerned motorcylist because I speak for BRONZ

Where he was doing this speed was really dumb, no matter who it was.
Driveways, side roads, bumpy surface..............................212kmh?

Now way out back of say Lake ferry with nothing else at all in sight and 4kms of straight, flat, empty road in front of the ST4 and ................ whole different scenario.

I still say keep it on the racetrack (officially)

[marty]

Hopefully it was a dude on a testride. Ride it like you rented it.




A few years ago I took a 750 MV for a test ride from a certain BOP dealer. The sales guy was on a CBR900RRRR I think. I couldn't keep up with him. And I was caning it. I remember thinking as we were going up the Kaimais - fuck I hope there's no cops over the brow of this hill - I'm 100kmh over the licence losing speed....

[HenryDorsetCase]

A few years ago I took a 750 MV for a test ride from a certain BOP dealer. The sales guy was on a CBR900RRRR I think. I couldn't keep up with him. And I was caning it. I remember thinking as we were going up the Kaimais - fuck I hope there's no cops over the brow of this hill - I'm 100kmh over the licence losing speed....

All I can say is "Bravo"

I mean "tsk tsk"

:D

[Smifffy]

Perhaps he just has an incredibly small penis.

Did anyone even consider that possibility?

[miloking]

fuck I hope there's no cops over the brow of this hill - I'm 100kmh over the licence losing speed....

Once you are over that magical "licence losing" speed spot...sky is the limit :D Kind of like a sound barrier....

(well at least thats the message iam getting with this 135+Km/h = 28 day loss of licence + winning 50 Demerits + $600ish goes to donut fund)

[SMOKEU]

Perhaps he just has an incredibly small penis.

Did anyone even consider that possibility?

I try not to think about other guys cocks.

[MaxB]

Once you are over that magical "licence losing" speed spot...sky is the limit :D

(well at least thats the message iam getting with this 135+Km/h = 28 day loss of licence)

Its not as easy as that. At 40kmh over you are putting your riding future in the hands of a cop's opinion.

There are riders in NZ who have been charged with speeding at over 100kmh over the limit eg 180 in an 80, went to court and got the 28 day walk, 50 points and $1000+ fine. They could consider themselves 'lucky'.

But there are also a heap of riders who got busted for dangerous/reckless at 40kmh over or so for doing something fuckwittly stupid. Then you are looking at major bans, fines and possibly jail time.

The cops have guidelines for issuing offence notices but there is enough leeway to throw you a break. Or not.

So where you choose to speed, who phones up to complain, what drivers you blast past, whether you try and run can all effect what punishment you will end up with.

[grusomhat]

What a pathetic argument.

Touché :p

no its not you tool, speed does not kill, the enviroment it is done in does. nobody has burst into fuckin flames from exceeding a posted speed limit.

Oh neat I'm a tool. I think I've just realised as to what your post was referring too as made clearer by your later posts.

Speeding is inherently dangerous regardless due to the potential side effects of coming off. The environment plays a huge factor in these effects and you are right, the autobahns are safer by a large margin compared to, well any road in NZ because they are designed for high speeds.

Bit of a redundant post I know but these threads are generally circular anyway :)

[Blackflagged]

I try not to think about other guys cocks.

You Try? ...:shutup:
Each to there own!

[miloking]

Its not as easy as that. At 40kmh over you are putting your riding future in the hands of a cop's opinion.

There are riders in NZ who have been charged with speeding at over 100kmh over the limit eg 180 in an 80, went to court and got the 28 day walk, 50 points and $1000+ fine. They could consider themselves 'lucky'.

But there are also a heap of riders who got busted for dangerous/reckless at 40kmh over or so for doing something fuckwittly stupid. Then you are looking at major bans, fines and possibly jail time.

The cops have guidelines for issuing offence notices but there is enough leeway to throw you a break. Or not.

So where you choose to speed, who phones up to complain, what drivers you blast past, whether you try and run can all effect what punishment you will end up with.


Ahh i see, well that kind of puts me between two places knowing that its up to discretion of mr.fuzz

lets say iam doing the magical 136Km/h:

option 1) get a nice cop (1-5%) ...so its a 28 days on the spot, 50 Points, $1000
option 2) get dickhead cop (95-99%) ... its still 28 days on the spot, 50 Points, $1000 AND on top of that reckless driving so bike impounded and court appearance, disqualification, jail time and all that jazz

so now if i know i did more than 136 and got spotted i can either choose to pull over and pray for Option 1) or go nuts a do a Mr.red ducati on SH1 as iam likely in for option 2) anyway......

only good thing about option 2) is i get a ride in back of a police car :D

[blackdog]

Ahh i see, well that kind of puts me between two places......

lets say iam doing the magical 136Km/h:

option 1) get a nice cop (1-5%) ...so its a 28 days on the spot, 50 Points, $1000
option 2) get dickhead cop (95-99%) ... its still 28 days on the spot, 50 Points, $1000 AND on top of that reckless driving so bike impounded and court appearance, disqualification, jail time and all that jazz

so now if i know i did more than 136 a got spotted i can either choose to pull over and pray for Option 1) or go nuts a do a runner as iam likely in for option 2) anyway......

with your attitude yeah, u gonna get the book thrown at you

alot of the good cops will actually only give you a ticket for say 130, a warning and on your way (providing everything else is in order and you don't give 'attitude')

[miloking]

with your attitude yeah, u gonna get the book thrown at you

alot of the good cops will actually only give you a ticket for say 130, a warning and on your way (providing everything else is in order and you don't give 'attitude')

Well, i know i always get book thrown at me and i dont even open my mouth anymore and it still doesnt help...must be some arrogant look on my face or something :D

I guess i will decide that on the day...i just wont rely on this possibility of "ticket for 130" based on mercy of some Waikato cop,

so my point is if cops werent such a dicks to me each time i did something little bit wrong i wouldnt be even contemplating these options

[Katman]

only good thing about option 2) is i get a ride in back of a police car :D

Or the back of a hearse.

[Insanity_rules]

Cant post up pics, dont want your keyboard getting all messy.

Thats OK my keyboard is one of those water resistant ones, please post away. Or you could always PM them.

[miloking]

Or the back of a hearse.

Well thats assuming someone does a U-turn

[SMOKEU]

You Try? ...:shutup:
Each to there own!

Well I have to make it sound believable, since I ride a Honda.

[Katman]

Well thats assuming someone does a U-turn

Well that's assuming you're exceedingly stupid.

[Quasi]

Now way out back of say Lake ferry with nothing else at all in sight and 4kms of straight, flat, empty road in front of the ST4 and ................ whole different scenario.


hey dude - stop passing on the secret spots.....

[simonnn]

i heard that Kearnes now says he was mis quoted.
If thats the case then the Herald should publish a retraction

[simonnn]

Kearnes now says he was misquoted.
Herald says he wasnt.
Where is the truth and fact.

[onearmedbandit]

Once you are over that magical "licence losing" speed spot...sky is the limit :D Kind of like a sound barrier....

(well at least thats the message iam getting with this 135+Km/h = 28 day loss of licence + winning 50 Demerits + $600ish goes to donut fund)

I thought it was 140?

[miloking]

I thought it was 140?

Pretty sure its 35km over the limit (used to be 50) ....well at least you didnt find out the hard way :)

[Bad Gixxer]

You have NO idea how Anne (aka MOM) rides. Or her involvemnt in road safety and ACC campaigns over the past few years

Your post is a braggish piece of self inflatoray dribble.. and you deserve to be called a wanker for advocating such behaviour on public roads
Braking from 300kmh with your back wheel in the air.... how the hell does this contribute to ROAD safety or keeping ya license? Your the sort of rider who justifies Nick Smiths take on our road habits

19 posts, been here a few weeks, dude, there are plenty of motorcycle instructors and riders with years and years of 'hobbying' on this forum, members of BRONZ and other organisations that try to IMPROVE our record

212kmh on SH1-
Anyone doing these speeds on a public road is a fuckhead (and that includes myself when I have done such as well)

Why is it that individuals sit at their keyboard in their anonymous little lounge or office and say things in forums like this in such an abusive manner, that if they said them face-to-face in a social environment that they'd probably get their face rearranged. Hey, I'd welcome an intelligent debate (as opposed to an abusive argument) but I see you've missed my point entirely - 300 or close to it is mandatory on the track. I'm 50 years old, had at least one bike in my garage all my life since I was 15 and usually two or three, done at least 2O,000 klms each and every year on bikes since I was 15. So I figure that kind of outways the 19 posts since I decided to join this site (which I'd heard was notorious for the number of abusive and inflamatory posts). I advocate road safety to anybody who'll care to listen. Unfortunately raod safety doesn't just mean driving according to the road rules. Everybody isn't born to be a natural driver/rider - Let's say for arguments sake that 50% of road deaths are caused by stone cold sober drivers that aren't speeding. So what's the reason for those deaths? There is no other possible answer other than total incompetence. If you extrapolate that out to the wider driving communuty, it implies that 50% of drivers are therefore incompetent, weather they be in cars, trucks, bikes, tractors, pushbikes or whatever. Now that quite frankly scares the hell out of me. I find it interesting that you choose to abuse me for taking steps to improve my riding skills - if you refer to my post you'll note that I referred to track time and learning those skills on the track - it doesn't mean that those skills have to be used on the road but I'll tell you what, it certainly helps to know both your own capabilities and the capabilities of your bike on a track environment so that they can be applied on the road when necessary.

Many riders don't even know what countersteering is, despite the fact that they're using it every day. The concept of entry points, apex's, and exit points is like a foreign language. Owning a bike doesn't make you a safe rider. Abiding by the raod rules doesn't make you a good rider.

So if you want to flame me for advocating that all riders should improve their skills, feel free. But hey, try and do it like an adult and offer an argument rather than simple abuse.

Have a happy day :-)

[rapid van cleef]

2.5 seconds reaction time. what a croc of shit! so some asshole reckon that it takes an 'average'person 2.5 seconds to do anything after first of all seeing / hearing somthing. thats a long time! watch bike racing , or play a racing game. lights go out and everyone sits still for 2 seconds! i think not! must be a police entry criteria thing!

[Bad Gixxer]

Originally Posted by StoneY
You have NO idea how Anne (aka MOM) rides. Or her involvemnt in road safety and ACC campaigns over the past few years

Your post is a braggish piece of self inflatoray dribble.. and you deserve to be called a wanker for advocating such behaviour on public roads
Braking from 300kmh with your back wheel in the air.... how the hell does this contribute to ROAD safety or keeping ya license? Your the sort of rider who justifies Nick Smiths take on our road habits

19 posts, been here a few weeks, dude, there are plenty of motorcycle instructors and riders with years and years of 'hobbying' on this forum, members of BRONZ and other organisations that try to IMPROVE our record

212kmh on SH1-
Anyone doing these speeds on a public road is a fuckhead (and that includes myself when I have done such as well)


I particularly like that neologism: "infloratory" presumably an amalgamation of "inflammable" and "oratory". Excellent! My only quibble is that "oratory" tends to refer to the spoken word, rather than written. Kudos!

Henry Dorset Case - that is excellent my friend, a truely awesome piece of commentary!

[bogan]

Why is it that individuals sit at their keyboard in their anonymous little lounge or office and say things in forums like this in such an abusive manner, that if they said them face-to-face in a social environment that they'd probably get their face rearranged. Hey, I'd welcome an intelligent debate (as opposed to an abusive argument) but I see you've missed my point entirely - 300 or close to it is mandatory on the track. I'm 50 years old, had at least one bike in my garage all my life since I was 15 and usually two or three, done at least 2O,000 klms each and every year on bikes since I was 15. So I figure that kind of outways the 19 posts since I decided to join this site (which I'd heard was notorious for the number of abusive and inflamatory posts). I advocate road safety to anybody who'll care to listen. Unfortunately raod safety doesn't just mean driving according to the road rules. Everybody isn't born to be a natural driver/rider - Let's say for arguments sake that 50% of road deaths are caused by stone cold sober drivers that aren't speeding. So what's the reason for those deaths? There is no other possible answer other than total incompetence. If you extrapolate that out to the wider driving communuty, it implies that 50% of drivers are therefore incompetent, weather they be in cars, trucks, bikes, tractors, pushbikes or whatever. Now that quite frankly scares the hell out of me. I find it interesting that you choose to abuse me for taking steps to improve my riding skills - if you refer to my post you'll note that I referred to track time and learning those skills on the track - it doesn't mean that those skills have to be used on the road but I'll tell you what, it certainly helps to know both your own capabilities and the capabilities of your bike on a track environment so that they can be applied on the road when necessary.

Many riders don't even know what countersteering is, despite the fact that they're using it every day. The concept of entry points, apex's, and exit points is like a foreign language. Owning a bike doesn't make you a safe rider. Abiding by the raod rules doesn't make you a good rider.

So if you want to flame me for advocating that all riders should improve their skills, feel free. But hey, try and do it like an adult and offer an argument rather than simple abuse.

Have a happy day :-)

um, it doesnt imply that 50% of driver are incompetent at all, it implies that 50% of drivers that crash are incompetent! (using you assumption that if you speed/drink and crash it doesnt count as incompetent).

If you want to avoid being abused, keep posts as general and not-specific to people on here as possible, and avoid using abusive terms yourself. And if that don't work (which it wont!) ignore and try for an intelligent debate anyway.

Basically I hear and agree with what you are saying, but from the other perspective, how are the authorities suppose to tell between a rider in control at high speeds, and one who is likely to take out a pedestrian?

[onearmedbandit]

Pretty sure its 35km over the limit (used to be 50) ....well at least you didnt find out the hard way :)

Had a quick search, and it still appears to be 40km/h.


If a driver exceeds a permanent posted speed limit by more than 40 km/h, there is an automatic 28-day licence suspension.

Source - near bottom of the page (http://www.nzdriving.com/road_code/speed-limits.php)

[Berries]

Is there a thread on here about why people ride bikes ? I only ask because of the reasons why I ride a bike (speed, acceleration, corners, overtaking, adrenaline, big bloody grins etc etc etc). If bikes were limited to 100km/h then frankly I wouldn't bother, I'd get a nice car with a radio and a bit of weather protection. I am often surprised by the reaction of people on KB about some of the speeds that people get up to. Everyone of us has that internal limit where anyone who goes faster is obviously an idiot, but each to their own.

[Bikemad]

I wonder how many motorcyclists went over 200km/h today?

me me me me me..................well c'mon.....i was on a 675 test ride

[Coldrider]

Had a quick search, and it still appears to be 40km/h.



Source - near bottom of the page (http://www.nzdriving.com/road_code/speed-limits.php)still 50kph for a temporary speed reduction area, ie roadworks.

[davereid]

Is there a thread on here about why people ride bikes ? I only ask because of the reasons why I ride a bike (speed, acceleration, corners, overtaking, adrenaline, big bloody grins etc etc etc). If bikes were limited to 100km/h then frankly I wouldn't bother, I'd get a nice car with a radio and a bit of weather protection. I am often surprised by the reaction of people on KB about some of the speeds that people get up to. Everyone of us has that internal limit where anyone who goes faster is obviously an idiot, but each to their own.

Yeah, if she sleeps with me thats OK. If she sleeps with someone else, shes a slut.

[Bad Gixxer]

um, it doesnt imply that 50% of driver are incompetent at all, it implies that 50% of drivers that crash are incompetent! (using you assumption that if you speed/drink and crash it doesnt count as incompetent).

If you want to avoid being abused, keep posts as general and not-specific to people on here as possible, and avoid using abusive terms yourself. And if that don't work (which it wont!) ignore and try for an intelligent debate anyway.

Basically I hear and agree with what you are saying, but from the other perspective, how are the authorities suppose to tell between a rider in control at high speeds, and one who is likely to take out a pedestrian?

Thanks Bogan, you make some good points and are in general agreement, which means that you read my posts and understand where i'm coming from. (I actually thought my comments were insulting as opposed to abusive :shifty: ) However I still reckon that half the drivers on the road have serious skill deficiency or anger issues. I was tailgated by a fruitloop on SH1 last night in my car - I was on cruise control at 110 and he was almost in my boot. So i slowed down and went extreme left and gave him plenty of room to pass, which he didn't, and then slowed down to 95 on passing lanes, he stayed behind me, and then when i increased speed again he was up my arse again. I just took the next available left and let him go on his merry way - now that's a classic example of an incompetent driver, nothing to do with speed or skills, just his arrogant attitude towards driving.

I remember some of the best basic advice that i received about riding - that was never ride at 100% of your capabilities, regardless of your skill level. Always leave at least 10% spare so that if you're up shitter's creek then you stand a fighting chance of finding a spare paddle to get yourself out. I think that applies to everybody no matter what your skill level is, how fast you ride/drive, what sort of bike/vehicle you have, or whether you're on the road, on the track, or in the dirt.

[Conquiztador]

I remember some of the best basic advice that i received about riding - that was never ride at 100% of your capabilities, regardless of your skill level. Always leave at least 10% spare so that if you're up shitter's creek then you stand a fighting chance of finding a spare paddle to get yourself out. I think that applies to everybody no matter what your skill level is, how fast you ride/drive, what sort of bike/vehicle you have, or whether you're on the road, on the track, or in the dirt.

I agree with that statement on the road, but disagree on the track. The way you will become faster and better when racing is by going outside your comfort zone. You go in to a corner faster than you have done before and you think "Fark, I will not make this", but you do. Next time you come in same speed and you feel more comfy. Until that becomes normal. This is now your new comfort zone. Then you go in faster again, and so on. If you keep on riding so you feel comfortable you will also become faster as time goes, but it will take you so much longer.

[bogan]

Thanks Bogan, you make some good points and are in general agreement, which means that you read my posts and understand where i'm coming from. (I actually thought my comments were insulting as opposed to abusive :shifty: ) However I still reckon that half the drivers on the road have serious skill deficiency or anger issues. I was tailgated by a fruitloop on SH1 last night in my car - I was on cruise control at 110 and he was almost in my boot. So i slowed down and went extreme left and gave him plenty of room to pass, which he didn't, and then slowed down to 95 on passing lanes, he stayed behind me, and then when i increased speed again he was up my arse again. I just took the next available left and let him go on his merry way - now that's a classic example of an incompetent driver, nothing to do with speed or skills, just his arrogant attitude towards driving.

I remember some of the best basic advice that i received about riding - that was never ride at 100% of your capabilities, regardless of your skill level. Always leave at least 10% spare so that if you're up shitter's creek then you stand a fighting chance of finding a spare paddle to get yourself out. I think that applies to everybody no matter what your skill level is, how fast you ride/drive, what sort of bike/vehicle you have, or whether you're on the road, on the track, or in the dirt.

I think half is a bit high 20% maybe, which is still far too high, but I can't see any way of changing that.

Yeh I agree on the road, but disagree for the dirt, falling off is just part of it, and the quickest way to find limits and get better.

[blueblade]

Speaking of skill levels out on the road - I posted earlier in this thread about a trip I did around the South Island a few years ago on whiich one of our group was killed.
I am now reminded of another incident earlier in that same trip that still haunts me.

We were headed for a night at Glenorchy and I had just started to enjoy the ride out from Queenstown - having never seen that glorious road before. I started out on my own but was soon joined by another member of the group riding a fairly new Fireblade. I had a very well set up Aprillia Tuono (Ohlins etc). I was travelling at a pretty quick pace but well within what I considered my own comfort zone - had done countless track days on this bike.

The Fireblade rider (who I did not know other than to say hello to) obviously wanted to chase me and was up my backside on most of the straights but then fell back on most of the twistie bits. When we arrived at Glenorchy I was quite exhillarated after a great ride on an awesome road surrounded by such beautiful scenery.

The Fireblade rider arrived shortly after and almost fell off his bike. He was visibly shaking and could hardly speak. He said some words to the effect that he was mighty pleased that trip was over?????

A few days later our group did a track day at Levels and I was absolutely horrified watching this particular rider - he had almost no skills at all. He ran off the track at least 6 times at the end of the front straight and God knows how he managed to hold it up on the grass each time. It was clear that he had no idea of his own or his bikes capabilities.

I felt pretty bad about the part I might have played in him riding well over his head earleir in the trip and couldnt help but wonder how much I would have been responsible if that ride had ended badly.

[miloking]

I felt pretty bad about the part I might have played in him riding well over his head earleir in the trip and couldnt help but wonder how much I would have been responsible if that ride had ended badly.

Dont be silly, you would not be responsible at all!
Everybody is maker of their own destiny especialy if they climb on top of a motorcycle...
Nobody made him chase you and if anything you probably helped him to improve his ridding skills by having a chance to follow your lines and see what he is/isnt capable of...

[scumdog]

Pretty sure its 35km over the limit (used to be 50) ....well at least you didnt find out the hard way :)

Another KB 'fact' eh??:shifty:

[Bad Gixxer]

I agree with that statement on the road, but disagree on the track. The way you will become faster and better when racing is by going outside your comfort zone. You go in to a corner faster than you have done before and you think "Fark, I will not make this", but you do. Next time you come in same speed and you feel more comfy. Until that becomes normal. This is now your new comfort zone. Then you go in faster again, and so on. If you keep on riding so you feel comfortable you will also become faster as time goes, but it will take you so much longer.

Yeah you're right, i probably was focusing on comments about the roads rather than the track. I agree with you - on the track it's more like try for 105% and if you get it right a few times and learn something from it, that point becomes your new 100% - and so on and so on. If I look back over the years then even as recentlly as 5 years ago, my 100% back then is probably only my 30% now, bit of a shocker when i think about that! :shit:

[miloking]

Another KB 'fact' eh??:shifty:

You know what would be realy useful...if you actualy contributed to the discussion and clarified shit like this once in a while, being public servant and all...
to be honest i dont give rats ass if its 35 or 40 or whatever...as its likely going to change again to suit some retarded "road safety" policy/revenue gathering.


Otherwise if you've got nothing useful to say why dont you just shut up....

[grusomhat]

You know what would be realy useful...if you actualy contributed to the discussion and clarified shit like this once in a while, being public servant and all...
to be honest i dont give rats ass if its 35 or 40 or whatever...as its likely going to change again to suit some retarded "road safety" policy/revenue gathering.


Otherwise if you've got nothing useful to say why dont you just shut up....

I gotta agree, he seems to do nothing but use the fact that he's a cop to bait others by posting pointless drivel.

[scumdog]

You know what would be realy useful...if you actualy contributed to the discussion and clarified shit like this once in a while, being public servant and all...
to be honest i dont give rats ass if its 35 or 40 or whatever...as its likely going to change again to suit some retarded "road safety" policy/revenue gathering.


Otherwise if you've got nothing useful to say why dont you just shut up....

Well every time I post what you consider is innacurate/opposing your view etc YOU try to bag me..:nya:...so there!

And I don't give a fat rats as if it's 35 or 40 or whatever...so we agree on something.

[scumdog]

I gotta agree, he seems to do nothing but use the fact that he's a cop to bait others by posting pointless drivel.

Meh, if I was still a freezing worker I'd still be baiting drongos....ya don't HAVE to be a cop to do that..:no:

And what I post ain't pointless drivel otherwise it would be on the PD thread eh!::blink:

[red mermaid]

Can't see the point in telling what it really is when your attitudes are self evident and well set.

I say let you go for it.



You know what would be realy useful...if you actualy contributed to the discussion and clarified shit like this once in a while, being public servant and all...
to be honest i dont give rats ass if its 35 or 40 or whatever...as its likely going to change again to suit some retarded "road safety" policy/revenue gathering.


Otherwise if you've got nothing useful to say why dont you just shut up....

[bogan]

Is this how you guys get your kicks? saying I know what you want to know, but I'm not telling, or belittling others comments about the same subjects. I understand the more traditional trolling techniques like trying to convince people of BS (2m stopping dist etc), or when everyone is taking the piss anyway, but the responses above just seem sad and pathetic.