What oil to use for gsxr1000k7?

[v8s&2wheels]

Just clocked a little over 5000 since i got the bike and it had its service. Im in two minds as to whether to get the bike shop to do it or whether i do it myself.

I went to supercheap today and they had 2 oils which looked good for my use. 1 was a castrol power gps oil for 4 stroke highperformance bikes. 2nd was a fuchs product, had race or racing on the label and remember it was fully synthetic for superbikes exactly like mine. Would i be alright using the castrol or should i go with the more expensive fuchs product.

And after all that..

Need to get valve clearances checked and a TEKA tune done to my bike as still havent tuned from putting on yoshi 4 into 1 racing pipe later last year.

Bike shop they can do a full lube service (which includes lubes and oil filter, valve clearance check, and a general check) and just a normal tune for around $500. Question: is that a reasonable price?

Cheers guys

[98tls]

$500 for something you can easily do at home mate,on the pipe,full system or can?if its just the can it wont need any attention at all.Fwiw good quality mineral is as good as anything else no matter what the oil company funded studies show for my money.

[v8s&2wheels]

$500 for something you can easily do at home mate,on the pipe,full system or can?if its just the can it wont need any attention at all.Fwiw good quality mineral is as good as anything else no matter what the oil company funded studies show for my money.

Not sure on how to check valve clearances so would rather just pay the shop to do that.

Exhaust is factory 4-1 titanium headers and then race system bolts straight up. Far too much flow and bike back fires when throttling off from around 6k or higher.

[v8s&2wheels]

I also noticed the cheaper castrol semi synthetic had a higher API rating than the fully synthetic more expensive fuchs oil.

And everyone says API ratings are a true way to show which is a good oil.

Maybe ill go with the castrol since its $60 and the fuchs is $100. That way i could justify doing oil changes even earlier.

[98tls]

I also noticed the cheaper castrol semi synthetic had a higher API rating than the fully synthetic more expensive fuchs oil.

And everyone says API ratings are a true way to show which is a good oil.

Maybe ill go with the castrol since its $60 and the fuchs is $100. That way i could justify doing oil changes even earlier.

$100 for 4 litres of motorcycle oil:killingme the only thing funnier is the fact that there are obviously people out there that buy it and put it into there road used motorcycle then as there the fastidious types bin it 3000 kms later and shell out another hundy.Madness.

[Owl]

Would i be alright using the castrol or should i go with the more expensive fuchs product.

Maybe it's just me, but I have a serious issue with anything called Fuchs.:laugh:

If you wanted to go the full synthetic route, you could order Mobil 1 4T through Repco for less than $100. They don't stock it, but they'll get it!

[nodrog]

use motul 5100 4T about $60, or if you really want to lighten your wallet get the factoryline 300V 4T

[Quasievil]

I also noticed the cheaper castrol semi synthetic had a higher API rating than the fully synthetic more expensive fuchs oil.

And everyone says API ratings are a true way to show which is a good oil.



It just shows its approved to the latest requirements, more so in the case of emission controls, especially so in Diesel oils.

[v8s&2wheels]

use motul 5100 4T about $60, or if you really want to lighten your wallet get the factoryline 300V 4T

Where would i get the 5100 4t oil from? Is it a semi synthetic or full?

[nodrog]

Where would i get the 5100 4t oil from? Is it a semi synthetic or full?

most motorcycle shops should have it. its semi.

[Quasievil]

Have a Look here at this post I made......I work for mobil

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/122494-Diesel-oil-engine-flush?p=1129734962#post1129734962

[nodrog]

the dude wants to buy some oil, not make it.

[Quasievil]

the dude wants to buy some oil, not make it.

Maybe he wants to understand oil to mate

[Flip]

It just shows its approved to the latest requirements, more so in the case of emission controls, especially so in Diesel oils.

Get real, you are not suggesting that anybody from Mobil would ever consider putting a dirty old diesel rated oil in a high performance motorcycle are you?

[Quasievil]

Get real, you are not suggesting that anybody from Mobil would ever consider putting a dirty old diesel rated oil in a high performance motorcycle are you?

You missed it completely didnt you. Thats not what I said

[Flip]

You missed it completely didnt you. Thats not what I said

Well a bit of industry experence goes a long way.

[AllanB]

I was running the Castrol semi-synthetic and changed last time to Motul 5100 (also semi) - there was a very noticeable improvement in the gearbox shifting using the Motul. In my specific bike anyway, and several others have commented on the same using Motul 5100 in Hondas.

Consequently I have no future interest in Castrol and I have even stopped using their oil in my cars! That will teach them!

[Flip]

I was running the Castrol semi-synthetic and changed last time to Motul 5100 (also semi) - there was a very noticeable improvement in the gearbox shifting using the Motul. In my specific bike anyway, and several others have commented on the same using Motul 5100 in Hondas.

Consequently I have no future interest in Castrol and I have even stopped using their oil in my cars! That will teach them!

Im running out of oil companies I will deal with. BP, Mobil is now out, Shell now that the retail is NZ owned is back in. Caltex-Castrol?

[scott411]

Im running out of oil companies I will deal with. BP, Mobil is now out, Shell now that the retail is NZ owned is back in. Caltex-Castrol?

pretty sure Castrol is owned by BP now,

[firefighter]

Just clocked a little over 5000 since i got the bike and it had its service. Im in two minds as to whether to get the bike shop to do it or whether i do it myself.


Motul 5100 (also semi) - there was a very noticeable improvement in the gearbox shifting using the Motul. In my specific bike anyway, and several others have commented on the same using Motul 5100 in Hondas.

I was one of the "others".......

I was really impressed with Motul in my Hornet. Really made a difference. I did'nt think it would or that i'd notice but I truely did. Good stuff and not too pricey either.

[honda929]

Valve clearence's on gsxr1000's stay within spec for long periods( longer than the recommended checks) (CBR's too).Get them checked if you want for piece of mind, otherwise just spend the dosh on a quality oil.My pick has been Mobil racing 4t or maxima extra 4t, both around the $100 mark for 4ltrs.Choose a cheaper brand like motul 5100 if you want, but its been proven not to do gearbox's anygood, ( to me anyway) I ran 5100 in my vfr up till 60,000k, the gearbox packed a sad, when it was stripped down I was horrified at the amount of wear on the gears, and no nothing broke, it just got real noisey (Im no oil scientist but after this happened I stopped using it) .If you dont ride hard it will be fine though I suspect.Just my experience, but I stick to mobil or maxima now.Make your own mind up though.I change the oil and filter at 3000km intervals, which a lot of people will point out its only 1/4 of the oils life, yes but that is the maxium life as told my the manufacturer.If you wait till 10,000ks, those metal particles have been floating around your engine for a long time.

As for castrol, most know they won the right to call some of their oil "synthetic", which is why I never use it in any bikes or cars now.

[quickbuck]

Valve clearence's on gsxr1000's stay within spec for long periods( longer than the recommended checks) (CBR's too).Get them checked if you want for piece of mind, otherwise just spend the dosh on a quality oil.My pick has been Mobil racing 4t or maxima extra 4t, both around the $100 mark for 4ltrs.Choose a cheaper brand like motul 5100 if you want, but its been proven not to do gearbox's anygood(If you dont ride hard it will be fine though).

Hmmm,
I used to run 5100 in the CBR. Thought it was the Ducks nuts.
Then I got given some Q8 to try. Well, all I will say is the many false neutrals that I used to find have now gone!

To be fair, it may be my riding has tamed down a little, so not really a true test....

[firefighter]

Choose a cheaper brand like motul 5100 if you want, but its been proven not to do gearbox's anygood(If you dont ride hard it will be fine though).

I guess they do'nt push it that hard in the MotoGP.

[Quasievil]

These Oil threads are so fucking funny

[AllanB]

VChoose a cheaper brand like motul 5100 if you want, but its been proven not to do gearbox's anygood(If you dont ride hard it will be fine though).


Piffff!!!!!!! Feel free to post up any documented information to verify this - I extensively searched many oil brands on the web and never found one comment to support the above.

Now we just need someone to chip in with a comment regarding mobil and Harley bearings ................

[quickbuck]

Piffff!!!!!!! Feel free to post up any documented information to verify this - I extensively searched many oil brands on the web and never found one comment to support the above.


Got to agree with this....
I can't say that it was Motul causing the fasle neutrals at all.... As for damage, well, never had the box apart to look.
Then there is the whole issue of, "is this damage different to normal?" and " What is normal?"....

[honda929]

I guess they do'nt push it that hard in the MotoGP.

I also guess they dont use 5100 either

[firefighter]

I also guess they dont use 5100 either

Right. The post gave the impression that Motul was no good, rather than just referring to 5100.

[firefighter]

These Oil threads are so fucking funny

Hey. We all know everything about nothing! :yes::laugh:

[slofox]

Hey. We all know everything about nothing! :yes::laugh:

The specialist learns more and more about less and less until finally he knows everything about nothing...

The generalist learns less and less about more and more until finally he knows nothing about everything...

I think I am in the second category...

[bsasuper]

I've used motul oil and really wasnt impressed,but lots of people do, everyone has a fav oil. A shop close to home sells mobil motorcycle oil, and another brand that costs more, so its mobil for all my bikes.I havnt had any problems with premature wear, I change it about 3500kms- thats a bit of touring and thrashing.I have a mate who changes his every 1000kms. but hes happy to do it, so who cares, each to himself .

[AllanB]

I have a mate who changes his every 1000kms. but hes happy to do it, so who cares, each to himself .

Now that's just overkill! He should drain it back into a pack and sell it on here half price! He could claim the oil is already run-in so you can get on and thrash it immediately!

I've found different bikes respond differently to different oils. After much time reading the net etc and everyone having a favourite oil and one they won't use again (guilty) I've come to the conclusion that if you try a oil and find something like gear shifting degrades, dump it out and pop in another.

Might call Quassi for some of that fancy Mobil motorcycle oil next change.

You want to pop onto an American oil thread - those guys use pratically anything in their bikes!

[bsasuper]

Yes totally overkill, but like I said, hes happy to do it so thats fine.He cringes at me doing mine at 3500kms (and I dont really like doing it, rather be rideing!)

[Owl]

Now that's just overkill!

Probably, but km don't always tell the full story.

I use to have to replace my car oil and filter every 6 months/1500km, otherwise it would sound like I had a machine gun under the bonnet. Embarrassing enough driving a 626 Mazda, without it sounding like a war zone. Constant cold running commute to work isn't good for oil.

[quickbuck]

Probably, but km don't always tell the full story.

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True....
When you actually add up the total k's the race bikes do between oil changes.... Well 1000 is a LOT! Closer to 200k.

[Kornholio]

I guess they do'nt push it that hard in the MotoGP.

Have you ever ridden around Coromandel??....

[davebullet]

Oil is like tyres. You keep changing brands and models until you find one you like.

I've only changed the oil twice in my bike so far. Both times the Castrol stuff in the yellow / gold pack. The bike sounds real smooth for about the first 1,000kms - then I get all sorts of rattles and noises. I know the SV motors aren't renowned for their quietness (noisy cam chains) - and yes the tappet clearances have been adjusted (by a proper motorcycle mechanic - not by me - lol).

I'll try me some Motul next time.