Cops go technomological. How will mr scumdog cope?

[Ixion]

From Stuff today ( http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/3714344/Police-trial-new-ticketing-system)




Police have begun a trial run of technology so traffic infringement notices can be issued with greater efficiency and accuracy.

The Smart (secure mobile access and reporting technology) device is being trialled by Southern Districts police for one month.

Southern District road policing manager Inspector Andrew Burns said about 50 staff had been trained to use the PDA device, which allowed information about vehicles and their drivers to be accessed quickly following a traffic stop.

It meant officers could access information directly rather than going through the three police communications centres.

"There will be no change to the information that is collected or stored - the technology will simply allow us to do what we've always done more efficiently," Mr Burns said.

The device would also eliminate repetition and avoid issues such as legibility of handwriting and incomplete information, he said.

"The public will notice very little change in the way an infringement notice is issued. The same information will be presented to them, but it will be captured in a computer generated print-out."

Mr Burns said data protection law applied to Smart records and the trial would be reviewed before a decision was made on whether the technology was suitable for use nationwide.



Now, I reckon this could be a good thing. Firstly, the gizmos are bound to be unreliable. At any rate, less reliable than a ticket book. Secondly, they'll be expensive. Which means that some (at least) general duties , and dog handlers and such probably won't get them. They may have the old ticket books, but with the emphasis being on gizmo issued tcikets, they're less likely to reach for them.

[yachtie10]

I assume they will be using cellphone networks
what happens when there is no coverage
Maybe please move along for few kilometres until the signal works

[Eyegasm]

Hypermathmatically speaking maybe it's time to install a mobile phone jammer into the bike!

[miloking]

Hypermathmatically speaking maybe it's time to install a mobile phone jammer into the bike!

You mean maybe its time to give them XT sim cards :D

[Swoop]

I guess it's cheaper than INCIS...

[Bald Eagle]

I guess it's cheaper than INCIS...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[bogan]

I assume they will be using cellphone networks
what happens when there is no coverage
Maybe please move along for few kilometres until the signal works

i would assume any design engineer would have closed that loophole, the trick is to find the obscure one he left for himself :shifty:
for example the whole database of registered vehicles would easily fit on a memory stick

[Taz]

I guess it's cheaper than INCIS...

The great $110,000,000 government fuck up :lol: They still trying to recoup the cost off us motorists.

[yachtie10]

i would assume any design engineer would have closed that loophole, the trick is to find the obscure one he left for himself :shifty:
for example the whole database of registered vehicles would easily fit on a memory stick

I think privacy issues would come into effect
i.e. what happens if the officer leaves his PDA in the dougnut shop
cant have everyones details published on the net by a disgruntled speeder can we

[bogan]

I think privacy issues would come into effect
i.e. what happens if the officer leaves his PDA in the dougnut shop
cant have everyones details published on the net by a disgruntled speeder can we

heard of carjam? or how about data encryption?

[spacemonkey]

I assume they will be using cellphone networks
what happens when there is no coverage
Maybe please move along for few kilometres until the signal works

If the Police com's network can carry digital encryptment I'm guessing it can handle data.

[yachtie10]

If the Police com's network can carry digital encryptment I'm guessing it can handle data.

so the police coms network has better coverge than cell networks ?
must be a cool system

[bogan]

If the Police com's network can carry digital encryptment I'm guessing it can handle data.

hmmm, the ones my flatmate gets on his radio thingumy arent encrypted!

[yachtie10]

heard of carjam? or how about data encryption?

Not sure what you mean by carjam but not sure how it is relevant if your refereing to the website
data encryption is an option but none is completely secure, so it would have to satisfy the privacy commisioner


any way its just conjecture. all mobile solutions have these issues to varying degrees
i am just interested in how they are dealing with it

simple solution if no coverage then write a paper ticket

[bogan]

Not sure what you mean by carjam but not sure how it is relevant if your refereing to the website
data encryption is an option but none is completely secure, so it would have to satisfy the privacy commisioner


meaning that carjam will tell anyone whether a vehicle is registered or wof'd, and if they are stolen too I think?



any way its just conjecture. all mobile solutions have these issues to varying degrees
i am just interested in how they are dealing with it

simple solution if no coverage then write a paper ticket

true, so many possible solutions available, bout time NZ got with the times.

[Danny-Boy]

The old Police radios aren't encrypted, but the new ones they are bringing in are. Data capable, txt messageing between units, GPS location reporting, etc. Your scanner will be useless then!

[spacemonkey]

hmmm, the ones my flatmate gets on his radio thingumy arent encrypted!

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=48&topicid=39676


It's an APCO P25 network - this is the digital radio network technology. P25 networks don't have any encryption by default, they are merely digital.

The NZ Police however (as is the case with most P25 deployments) have chosen to add a layer of encryption on top of this.

I believe the NZ Police opted for 256 bit AES for their deployment. P25 itself supports 56 bit DES or 256 bit AES.

[spacemonkey]

so the police coms network has better coverge than cell networks ?
must be a cool system

Having stood beside a cop using his radio in an area where I had no cell phone coverage while doing SAR....... Yep it is.

[madbikeboy]

Technology. What could possibly go wrong?

[Gremlin]

anything and everything at the most inconvenient time. I know, because I then have to fix it. Least techies will have more jobs :D

[p.dath]

I spoke to someone about this ... they told me for every day using the system it took them a week to complete the paperwork because of the huge increase in tickets they were able to issue. They said the nature of the tickets tended to be minor, and were questioning if because of this it was really effective.

[red mermaid]

Urban legend.
Can you give this any sort of resemblance of credibility by stating who the person was you spoke to and how they reached this conclusion?



I spoke to someone about this ... they told me for every day using the system it took them a week to complete the paperwork because of the huge increase in tickets they were able to issue. They said the nature of the tickets tended to be minor, and were questioning if because of this it was really effective.

[scumdog]

The great $110,000,000 government fuck up :lol: They still trying to recoup the cost off us motorists.

And you're laughing about it???:scratch:

[Max Preload]

heard of carjam? or how about data encryption?

Carjam doesn't provide any information about the owner other than their name and address.

[jellywrestler]

ledgibility of handwriting???????
I'm an Electrician, and I had to have school C english and good handwriting to wire a house, what's this world coming to?

[Stormer]

Yeah, you just have to fast track all them there road criminal infringments y`know...get that money really rolling in now!
And it`ll make the road a safer place for all.:stoogie: