Prevented from leaving the country?

[RON SOAK]

I know about being stopped at the airport for leaving if you have got outstanding fines, but, can you be prevented from leaving the country if you owe visa cards or other money or things????

[p.dath]

Not to the best of my knowledge, assuming their is no court order, warrant for your arrest, etc.

But splitting when you owe people money is pretty bad. And getting a bad credit record from someone like Visa could follow you worldwide.

[RON SOAK]

Not to the best of my knowledge, assuming their is no court order, warrant for your arrest, etc.

And getting a bad credit record from someone like Visa could follow you worldwide.true....but first you'd have to give a fuck! I pay for everyting in cash these days so ....all I was worried about was being stopped from coming back to work...

[FJRider]

If oweing money on your visa card was a crime ... the courts would be pretty busy ...

[rainman]

You do know Visa and Mastercard are international companies, dontcha? If you leave without paying the chance of getting another card ever is pretty slim, I would suspect (depends where you go, maybe).

Easier to just make an arrangement to pay - even at a minimal amount each week.Besides, it's the right thing to do. Theft isn't cool.

EDIT: Just read p.dath's comment, sorry for repeat. But hey it's good advice!

[John_H]

You do know Visa and Mastercard are international companies, dontcha? If you leave without paying the chance of getting another card ever is pretty slim, I would suspect (depends where you go, maybe).

Easier to just make an arrangement to pay - even at a minimal amount each week.Besides, it's the right thing to do. Theft isn't cool.

EDIT: Just read p.dath's comment, sorry for repeat. But hey it's good advice!

+1 to that answer.

[RON SOAK]

I dont owe visa - just used that as an example! just trying to clarify what they can stop you for. eg if you had a civil debt or dispute over a civil debt, can they stop you leaving the country?

[SS90]

I dont owe visa - just used that as an example! just trying to clarify what they can stop you for. eg if you had a civil debt or dispute over a civil debt, can they stop you leaving the country?

Only if there is a warrant out for your arrest..... but everyone is giving you the right advise, make arrangements to pay, you won't regret it.

You might see it differently if someone owed you the money.

[CookMySock]

if you had a civil debt or dispute over a civil debt, can they stop you leaving the country?How much money? LOL


Steve

[howdamnhard]

I know about being stopped at the airport for leaving if you have got outstanding fines, but, can you be prevented from leaving the country if you owe visa cards or other money or things????

Why ,planning on doing a runner?

[avgas]

Not illegal, but they will chase you.
Wife had this, we went to Aus - she failed to pay some crap $50 thing (study thing).
It chased us to aus within 6 months. I paid before it went baycorp

[spacemonkey]

I know about being stopped at the airport for leaving if you have got outstanding fines, but, can you be prevented from leaving the country if you owe visa cards or other money or things????

Well it seems to be fine to bail for the likes of the Hotchins?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3702808/Inside-Hotchins-Hawaiian-hideaway

[Max Preload]

I dont owe visa - just used that as an example! just trying to clarify what they can stop you for. eg if you had a civil debt or dispute over a civil debt, can they stop you leaving the country?

No. You peasants legitimately owed money aren't nearly as important as the Government 'owed' fine for you exceeding 100km/h, don't you know?

[slofox]

How much money? LOL Steve

And who d'ya owe it to?

[Tank]

Well it seems to be fine to bail for the likes of the Hotchins?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3702808/Inside-Hotchins-Hawaiian-hideaway

Thats a holiday - not a bail.

@ OP - dosnt matter who you owe money to. Doing a runner is a gutless thing to do. Man up and pay your bills. At the very least a fucked credit history will screw you years down the track when you need it most.

[RON SOAK]

Interesting - i was thinking of coming back for a holiday, the bill is from long ago, but fuckit, I'll go to Thailand again, instead! better weather, anyway.

[hellokitty]

Thats a holiday - not a bail.

@ OP - dosnt matter who you owe money to. Doing a runner is a gutless thing to do. Man up and pay your bills. At the very least a fucked credit history will screw you years down the track when you need it most.

Yeah, what happens when you want to upgrade your bike and can't get finance???

[Max Preload]

Yeah, what happens when you want to upgrade your bike and can't get finance???

Ummmm you pay cash and save on interest?

[Conquiztador]

Re VISA. I think the bank that issued the card is the one that will carry the bill. If I am right then these credit cards only provide a way for people to pay using the money from the banks. VISA would charge the bank a fee for their services.

So, assuming I am right, you will not owe VISA anything but your bank. Not that this will make it any better... If you end up on a bad debt register, depending on the type of debt, it will disappear after between 7 and 5 years and your credit history is clean again even if you did not pay the debt. The debt will never go away, they just stop harrassing you as clearly you will not pay and it costs money to chase you. Only if you go bankrupt will the debts go away. And with the new one year bankrupcy we now have here in NZ (compared to the standard 3 year one) many are taking this option to walk away from their debts.

Also, if you have a debt with someone it will not stop you leaving the country. Apart from if it is with our government... And supposedly if you are bankrupt you need a OK to leave from whovere is managing your bankrupcy. But I know of people who have gone bankrupt and taken a holiday in Fiji and nobody has tried to stop them. So...

[Max Preload]

And with the new one year bankrupcy we now have here in NZ (compared to the standard 3 year one) many are taking this option to walk away from their debts.

NAP - No Asset Procedure.

[Forest]

Visa and Mastercard are just payment network providers. The funds that you spend on a credit card are actually advanced by the bank or institution that underwrites the card.

You're usually better off paying the bill. If you spent the money that's owed, repayment is the honorable thing to do.

[imdying]

Or if you're the sort of person that doesn't pay their debts, don't come back because we don't want/need you here.

[hellokitty]

Ummmm you pay cash and save on interest?

ummmmm not everyone has cash lying around to spend on bikes.

[Max Preload]

ummmmm not everyone has cash lying around to spend on bikes.

Then maybe they should buy cheaper bikes. Ones they don't have to finance and end up paying 50% more for on a depreciating asset. Instead of 'upgrading' which is really just bollocks.

Just a thought...

[LBD]

American Express is your friend...you can get an over due notice, a cancellation notice, a threat to put matter in hands of collection agency and 3 invitations to apply for an American Express Card all in the same mail delivery...

[EJK]

Many students leave with tens of thousands of dollars in debt (StudentLoan). I don't see them getting pulled over.

[imdying]

Many students leave with tens of thousands of dollars in debt (StudentLoan). I don't see them getting pulled over.Don't need to, that's a debt with the IRD, and they always get their money.

[Urano]

donno if they can and what for...
but...
what a stupid thing to do!!

today internet is above boundaries, and even if your misdeeds remain confined in a country the world is too small to have places you cannot go anymore...
when i was in california i got a fine not to have stopped to a t intersection (it was a t intersection in the middle of mohave desert with nobody coming from either directions till the curved horizons of the earth, i slowed down but did not actually stopped: a police car popped out from a bush... i felt like wil e coyote...), and in the us you get the advice to go to the court to let the judge decide the amount of your ticket.
i had to fly back to italy two days later and the court was after 10 days: i had to run to the court and talk with a tenth of clerks to pay the ticket immediately, admitting the fault and promising i'd have been a good boy, and all just because i KNEW that if i would have taken that plane without the ticket paid, i'd been jailed ten years after, if i'd wanted to fly back in the usa for a holiday...

don't leave debts behind: they won't get even by themselves... and the family would always find you... :laugh: :laugh:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Don't need to, that's a debt with the IRD, and they always get their money.

No they don't. The IRD writes off shit loads of taxes every year, and it ain't 'their money anyway. It's 'our' money which is typically loaned to students to pay for their education the students then leave NZ to earn more money overseas and many don't come back.

[hellokitty]

No they don't. The IRD writes off shit loads of taxes every year, and it ain't 'their money anyway. It's 'our' money which is typically loaned to students to pay for their education the students then leave NZ to earn more money overseas and many don't come back.

Bastards didn't write off the $400 I owed them they chased me for years, unfortunately they were sending the demands to the wrong address (an address I had never lived at - I had been in my own home for the past 6 years) , so eventually they thought to send the demands to my work where I had also been the last 4 years.
I didn't even know I owed them anything - amazing how 1 small error in your wages can add up over the years. Even more amazing is how the IRD had written proof in the form of a signed document saying I lived at that address where I had never lived......... weird, and bull shit!

[ynot slow]

I didn't even know I owed them anything - amazing how 1 small error in your wages can add up over the years. Even more amazing is how the IRD had written proof in the form of a signed document saying I lived at that address where I had never lived......... weird, and bull shit!

Yep I owed $245 from the 08-09 tax year,received the invoice around July to pay this year,forgot till November and speaking to a lady asking to be sent a copy of amount due etc,sure she said,never happened.Thought nothing about it and was only when thinking about it I sent an email to IRD 3 weeks ago,still no reply so phoned them Friday(after hanging on for 29-34mins in que) triedto sort it out,lady asked how much could I pay(said do I have to,no humour from her)and would get someone to call me this week.Then I asked her about child support I was paying and she said that department closed at 6pm(was 6.02,but started call at 5.30 and on hold since),same thing I told her I sent email 3 weeks ago,phoned to advise I was working(had stuffed up when laid off thinking they would realise my income changed,and my Winz case worker said IRD would know that,but 3mths of arrears later at my salary not benefit was owed by me,and to be paid back)but no contact from them.

Only good thing was sussing out my student loan and found I was in credit $845,and asked if I could have it(worth a crack)but was told I pay them this year for last year,and asked her if IRD tell my employer when account is paid,nope I do that,so I'm thinking,stuff them,I should tell my employer my balance is nil change my code,why should IRD have my money and get interest on it till they decide to pay study link next year,not a bad income earner for the dept.