The police and their 104k/h sucks. Therefore I decided to...

[Conquiztador]

Just as an option. Really. I am not stirring. Would I ever???

[Conquiztador]

Really need to get a PA.

[quickbuck]

There is just more cages out there to overtake this weekend.... So, for me nothing really will change in the way I ride.

As per normal I will ride on roads where there is little traffic, and therefore a lack of Police Presence.
Don't tend to get over 100 on the best roads.... Which leads right into the point that it isn't the speed limit that is a problem, it is traveling to the conditions. SO, why ping people for a lower number if the conditions are okay.... why not put more emphasis on people who aren't driving to the conditions.... THIS includes the vehicles who travel for many kilometres at a reduced speed with a huge line of traffic behind them!!!

Rant over.

[mrchips]

My speedo is out by 5 - 10 km/h at times, so 104 km/h is going to be interesting.

I don't condone speeding on public roads but with the varying speed limits 'these days' i'm finding my eyes spend more time ogling my speedo than whats going on in front of me (car & bike).

The Police should be ticketing the slow drivers breaking the law & speeding up during passing lanes. Passing these dicklets within the speed limit is impossible !.

From the road code....
Passing lanes

When there are passing lanes, drive in the left-hand lane unless you are passing another vehicle.

If you've been driving slower than the speed limit, don't speed up when you reach a passing lane if other vehicles are following – give them the opportunity to pass you safely

[Tink]

My speedo is out by 5 - 10 km/h at times, so 104 km/h is going to be interesting.

I don't condone speeding on public roads but with the varying speed limits 'these days' i'm finding my eyes spend more time ogling my speedo than whats going on in front of me (car & bike).

The Police should be ticketing the slow drivers breaking the law & speeding up during passing lanes. Passing these dicklets within the speed limit is impossible !.

From the road code....

Just out of interest does it also say in the road code, drive to the left on the motorway unless passing.... I get sick of people driving 100km in what they think is "the fast lane" when in FACT its the "overtaking lane". And they sit there and sit there, and don't pull out in front of a truck... CAUSE ITS LIKE GETTING a bullet up your butt... they have less breaking power than a smaller vehicle. I once nearly plowed into the back of a car that did this, I hope they shit themselves and considered that its better to be behind a slow vehicle for 5 min, than have one hit them. MY RANT OVER! :innocent:

[schrodingers cat]

Pretty hard to overtake someone doing 100km/h(esp on a 'overtaking' lane) when you're allowed a maximum of 104km/h

Whatever happened to the Peter Brock idea (remember the TV ad) - "Get a run up" he said

Seriously, there needs to be campaign that says 'GET OUT OF THE FUCKING WAY'. If someone is uncomfortabe at open road speeds they need to know they have an obligation to not hinder anyone elses progress

[CookMySock]

They just want us to be really careful on public holidays. It's fair enough.

Steve

[Tank]

So they dont care about us being really carefull at other times?

Would you waaaaaaa like a bitch if you got a ticket for 104km on a nice open bit of road ? What am i saying of course you would.

[Tank]

Anyway - to answer the OP - the police 104km ticketing sucks - so therefor I decided not to go faster than 103 on my way home last night. Of course - its 50km all the way - but fuckem.

[FJRider]

From the road code....

Most people have never looked in the road code since the day they got their licence ....

[FJRider]

They just want us to be really careful on public holidays. It's fair enough.

Steve

I think you will find the 104 limit will continue after the weekend ...

[Conquiztador]

I think you will find the 104 limit will continue after the weekend ...

Not initially. The plan is to evaluate the result and figure out if this idea helped. So if there is a reduction in accidents then this will be considered again.

[mrchips]

I think you will find the 104 limit will continue after the weekend ...

:yes:

Yes. Because we all know speed & big CC's kill, not...... alcohol, drugs, inexperience, driver training (the lack of), attitude etc, etc

I only hope we see some affordable driver / rider training incentives with all the extra ACC we will be paying.

[Conquiztador]

:yes:

Yes. Because we all know speed & big CC's kill, not...... alcohol, drugs, inexperience, driver training (the lack of), attitude etc, etc

I only hope we see some affordable driver / rider training incentives with all the extra ACC we will be paying.

Dont be silly now. The two main reasons are speed and alcohol. That is the reason the $$'s have been spent to come up with accurate measuring devices to focus on these two. Now once the decision is made to make the alcohol level ZERO they can really make a difference!

[flyingcrocodile46]

There is just more cages out there to overtake this weekend.... So, for me nothing really will change in the way I ride.

As per normal I will ride on roads where there is little traffic, and therefore a lack of Police Presence.
Don't tend to get over 100 on the best roads.... Which leads right into the point that it isn't the speed limit that is a problem, it is traveling to the conditions. SO, why ping people for a lower number if the conditions are okay.... why not put more emphasis on people who aren't driving to the conditions.... THIS includes the vehicles who travel for many kilometres at a reduced speed with a huge line of traffic behind them!!!

Rant over.

Exactly. The whole reason we have traffic laws and speed restrictions is all for SAFETY. That is the underlying reason for which all traffic enforcement officers are employed.

An 80 year old behind the wheel of an old Mk2 Zephyr with cross ply tyres on the old 309 road in teh coromandel doing 70kph is a shitload more risk to the safety of himself and others than a Peter Brock in the latest model Holden commode doing 140kph at 3:00am on the motorway. Yet you will often see Peter getting his ticket but seldom (if ever) see the old maniac in the Zephyr get his.

The conditions/circumstances for which rules/laws are drafted are wide an vary greatly. When drafting laws/rules invariably they are framed to cater for worst scenario rather than the best (as it is either impossible or completely impractical to make fair rules for all circumstances). The intent of law makers is to provide guidance for the exercise of common sense and penalties for those who don't exercise common sense. It has always been the intent that those enforcing the law are to use their judgment and discretion and to apply the maximum penalty applicable to the offense in cases of the worst scenario and lesser penalty (or warning) to the milder rule/law breaches. Fines were intended as a penalty, not a fucking income stream.

My dad had a saying.... ''Rules are written for the guidance of wise men and for the blind obedience of fools'' (this assumes that those enforcing the rules are the wise men and that those on the receiving end are the fools). It seems that this scenario is ever less in evidence, as it is rare indeed to meet an intelligent traffic cop, particularly as they seem to be completely lacking the ability to exercise any common sense and discretion on their own right..... (I'm just doing my job):rolleyes:. Fucking spineless morons don't even get the basic principle that they are there to police... how often are they killing and/or maiming people with their unsafe actions when pursuing someone for a fucking silly little traffic offense.

[scumdog]

My dad had a saying.... ''Rules are written for the guidance of wise men and for the blind obedience of fools'' (this assumes that those enforcing the rules are the wise men and that those on the receiving end are the fools).

Ah well, I guess those that think rules (laws?) are only for 'guidance' are also happy to pay $$$ for ignoring said 'rules' they see as a mere guidance??

They ARE happy to do so?
Good, all is well.....

[FJRider]

Not initially. The plan is to evaluate the result and figure out if this idea helped. So if there is a reduction in accidents then this will be considered again.

And if there is no reduction in accidents ... ie: speed related ... penalties for "speeding" will most likely be introduced. Accidents (four wheels or two) involving speed will be pointed to as being the reason for the extra attention.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Ah well, I guess those that think rules (laws?) are only for 'guidance' are also happy to pay $$$ for ignoring said 'rules' they see as a mere guidance??

They ARE happy to do so?
Good, all is well.....

Yeah. Speeding cost me well over $3000 in the last two years and it has made no difference to my driving habits. it was like working a couple of days each year without pay. ;)
It did however make a big difference to my attitude towards shit licking fucktards so I guess you could say that the education process that you fuckwits have embarked upon is really reaping the rewards for ya, eh! :niceone:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Not initially. The plan is to evaluate the result and figure out if this idea helped. So if there is a reduction in accidents then this will be considered again.

What about a bit of driver safety education for the moron cowboys who are running people off the road and/or killing them in the interest of making our roads safer. Any proposed study and evaluation on that matter???

[oldrider]

I think maybe they are just trying to say stop killing yourselves and other people on our roads! :rolleyes:

That in it's self is fair enough! :yes:

Ever since the ACC debacle raised it's ugly head does it make you kinda cringe every time there is a motorcycle death reported in the media? :shit:

It does it for me and when you check them out, they do seem to be so bloody needless! :mellow:

It even makes me feel the need to be compliant but then they come out and dice their arguments up by claiming it's mandatory speed and speed alone that's causing it! :shifty:

Bullshit breeds bullshit, respect goes out the window and the "them" and "us" wedge gets driven deeper into the void between the police and the public! :brick:

Politicians?............Forgive them father, they know not what they do! :tugger:

[Spearfish]

Exactly. The whole reason we have traffic laws and speed restrictions is all for SAFETY. That is the underlying reason for which all traffic enforcement officers are employed.

An 80 year old behind the wheel of an old Mk2 Zephyr with cross ply tyres on the old 309 road in teh coromandel doing 70kph is a shitload more risk to the safety of himself and others than a Peter Brock in the latest model Holden commode doing 140kph at 3:00am on the motorway. Yet you will often see Peter getting his ticket but seldom (if ever) see the old maniac in the Zephyr get his.

The conditions/circumstances for which rules/laws are drafted are wide an vary greatly. When drafting laws/rules invariably they are framed to cater for worst scenario rather than the best (as it is either impossible or completely impractical to make fair rules for all circumstances). The intent of law makers is to provide guidance for the exercise of common sense and penalties for those who don't exercise common sense. It has always been the intent that those enforcing the law are to use their judgment and discretion and to apply the maximum penalty applicable to the offense in cases of the worst scenario and lesser penalty (or warning) to the milder rule/law breaches. Fines were intended as a penalty, not a fucking income stream.

My dad had a saying.... ''Rules are written for the guidance of wise men and for the blind obedience of fools'' (this assumes that those enforcing the rules are the wise men and that those on the receiving end are the fools). It seems that this scenario is ever less in evidence, as it is rare indeed to meet an intelligent traffic cop, particularly as they seem to be completely lacking the ability to exercise any common sense and discretion on their own right..... (I'm just doing my job):rolleyes:. Fucking spineless morons don't even get the basic principle that they are there to police... how often are they killing and/or maiming people with their unsafe actions when pursuing someone for a fucking silly little traffic offence.

The Zephyr made it to being old tho, so did the driver.
Cant ban some vehicles just because you feel it costs you time on a trip, powers that be could develop the same view of bikes.
As for running from the popo over a "silly traffic offence", stupid is as stupid does.

[flyingcrocodile46]

The Zephyr made it to being old tho, so did the driver.
Cant ban some vehicles just because you feel it costs you time on a trip, powers that be could develop the same view of bikes.
As for running from the popo over a "silly traffic offence", stupid is as stupid does.

I wasn't advocating banning old cars and drivers etc. Not the point I was making

[scumdog]

Yeah. Speeding cost me well over $3000 in the last two years and it has made no difference to my driving habits. it was like working a couple of days each year without pay. ;)
It did however make a big difference to my attitude towards shit licking fucktards so I guess you could say that the education process that you fuckwits have embarked upon is really reaping the rewards for ya, eh! :niceone:

Wow, so I've saved myself at least $3,000 over the last two years eh?:shit:

VERY satisfying, nice to know SOMEBODY is paying the revnue/tax that I'm not paying!:2thumbsup

[flyingcrocodile46]

Wow, so I've saved myself at least $3,000 over the last two years eh?:shit:

VERY satisfying, nice to know SOMEBODY is paying the revnue/tax that I'm not paying!:2thumbsup

Nice to see an acknowledgment that the revenue collection from traffic offences is the real priority. Cheers for proving that point.

[Blackshear]

I was just coming home not 20 minutes ago, down my street. The lady in front was doing about 30k's, so I did a swift - but not overly so - overtake at maybe 65~km/h.
Looked in my rear view mirror 5 seconds after and noticed a cop was right behind me when I did it.

I don't know how, but I turned into my driveway and he carried on. Maybe not all of them give a rats ass about this ridiculous NO MARGIN FOR A FLY ON YOUR ACCELERATOR rule this weekend.

[Conquiztador]

Looked in my rear view mirror 5 seconds after and noticed a cop was right behind me when I did it.



THERE is one of my pet hates. People who have no idea what is going on behind them. Imagine if the mentioned cop had, at the same moment, been overtaking you...

[scumdog]

Nice to see an acknowledgment that the revenue collection from traffic offences is the real priority. Cheers for proving that point.

No, you missed my point.

My priority is to (a) avoid paying this 'revenue/tax' (easy) and (b) get YOU (and your ilk) to pay it for me, (even easier)!

A win-win eh!:2thumbsup

[flyingcrocodile46]

No, you missed my point.

My priority is to (a) avoid paying this 'revenue/tax' (easy) and (b) get YOU (and your ilk) to pay it for me, (even easier)!

A win-win eh!:2thumbsup

If you consider (as you appear to) that a quota of revenue from traffic offences must be collected in any event, then you would indeed be on a "win-win"

[apes]

if only they would start booking people for dangerous drive that might cause an accident then maybe we might see the quality of driving increase, especially if they gave the offenders the opportunity to avoid any points if they went on a driver training course after the first offence, but that might be a bit intelligent, and I can't remember the last time a police force (anywhere on the planet) was accused of demonstrating intelligence, in the medium term they might even raise more money to improve dangerous stretches of roads, in the mean time I will continue to safely overtake vehicles as quickly as required not to cause a danger to others

[Big Dave]

Therefore I decided to...

Buy a dual sport bike and ride mostly on dirt and back-roads.

[JATZ]

Therefore I decided to...

Buy a dual sport bike and ride mostly on dirt and back-roads.

Thats the spirit :yes:

[crystalball]

be interesting to see what the road toll is for this long weekend. i wonder if it will be lowest or lower.

[flyingcrocodile46]

be interesting to see what the road toll is for this long weekend. i wonder if it will be lowest or lower.

Unless it is weighed against the number of cars on the road and how many km's are traveled (which doesn't seem to be counted) it is pretty meaningless as far as statistics go. I would imagine that there are a lot less people traveling away this weekend so it should be well lower.

The statistics that this is driven by are just bullshit made up to suit the whims of dipshits.

[Howie]

Therefore I decided to...

Buy a dual sport bike and ride mostly on dirt and back-roads.

Yep thats what I did several years ago now. the policing of the roads, plus the fact I'd been along most of the sealed roads more than once.

[Spearfish]

Therefore I decided to...

Buy a dual sport bike and ride mostly on dirt and back-roads.

Lots of space in the back country, bit harsh to overnight this time of year tho, but still lots'a'space.