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You're Bodacious
26th June 2010, 19:48
Are they any schools or institution that provides longer training here in New Zealand, like the MSF back in California (20 hours and then test). Am been here in NZ for two years for my college.
The reason is, I failed my BHS. Am not disappointed with my results. So am wandering are there any places in Auckland that provides slow speed riding, maneuvers, and braking training (All slow speed). Cause I don't like my friends to train me in their 1000cc sport bikes :no:. 1st gear and my newbie right wrist :headbang:. I might freaking die :mad:.
Also do I need to take the test again ASAP? or can it be waited? And does it need to be the same trainer?
:)
mattian
26th June 2010, 19:52
I would be very disappointed if I failed the Basic Handling test. My advice is, buy yourself a 50cc scooter and start with that. learn to ride it on your driveway and then do your BHS again. Then get yourself a dirty little 125cc trail bike that you wont mind dropping a few times until you are confident enough to get yourself a 250...... rock on.
Ixion
26th June 2010, 19:57
I didn't think it was possible to fail it. There are several trainers who will tale ypu through to a pass . John wright is the name i recall but there are others. Do a search here on John Wrigjt to get his number
Gremlin
26th June 2010, 20:22
depends if he sat it straight away, or got some tuition first. I used John Wright, 3 hours all up on a weekend morning. Nothing to BHS.
mikemike104
26th June 2010, 20:24
Depends how much $ you want to spend? If you have heaps then sure, start on a scooter you can ride on your car license and move up. If you have sfa like me maybe get lesson (s) from a trainer and resit the test after you feel you would then pass the parts you failed the first time.
I did mine in March this year and found the swerving around the cones the hardest.
You're Bodacious
26th June 2010, 20:47
depends if he sat it straight away, or got some tuition first. I used John Wright, 3 hours all up on a weekend morning. Nothing to BHS.
Yea I did the test straight away with their bike. Thanks for giving me the right name :) What did you mean "Nothing to BHS"?
Depends how much $ you want to spend? If you have heaps then sure, start on a scooter you can ride on your car license and move up. If you have sfa like me maybe get lesson (s) from a trainer and resit the test after you feel you would then pass the parts you failed the first time.
I did mine in March this year and found the swerving around the cones the hardest.
I have very little cash to spend actually :( . I actually did fine with the cone weaving, but told me I kinda did it too fast...
Cayman911
26th June 2010, 22:51
:)
John wright's details and more info
http://www.otorohonda.co.nz/notice_board/training/Road.htm
CONTACT: John Wright for training times and appointments mobile: 027 227 5766 home: 09 534 5150
The info he gives is for life. i learnt to ride with him. time and money well spent.
and the BHS certificate + the full training only costs a couple hundred as far as i remember
St_Gabriel
26th June 2010, 23:05
If you are in Hamilton, I can totally recommend Passrite school, two hours total time (though i took a little longer) for training and the test. Those damn cones, im gunna be screwed if I ever have to do that out on the road for real. Funny though, every roadworks i go through, i wonder if i should get a little more practice :D
You're Bodacious
27th June 2010, 01:08
John wright's details and more info
http://www.otorohonda.co.nz/notice_board/training/Road.htm
CONTACT: John Wright for training times and appointments mobile: 027 227 5766 home: 09 534 5150
The info he gives is for life. i learnt to ride with him. time and money well spent.
and the BHS certificate + the full training only costs a couple hundred as far as i remember
Alrighty, I guess this John Wright seems to be trainer I'll go to, I hope he can give me some training on slow riding :). Plus it looks he has a course setup already (saw it on google maps) :).
If you are in Hamilton, I can totally recommend Passrite school, two hours total time (though i took a little longer) for training and the test. Those damn cones, im gunna be screwed if I ever have to do that out on the road for real. Funny though, every roadworks i go through, i wonder if i should get a little more practice :D
:( Am studying at Auckland. LoL my cousin has a bad habit slaloming on the highway when he sees cones in a row, since he loved the 65mph slalom session when he was doing his MSF.
Thanks for the recommandation guys. John Wright, I shall see you soon :D
I guess the mod can close this tread now.
Gremlin
27th June 2010, 19:14
What did you mean "Nothing to BHS"?
He takes you from no riding at all, to doing the BHS and getting the certificate required in order to sit your learners scratchie.
rapid van cleef
27th June 2010, 20:04
2 hours training for basic skills test success? what a joke. so in all of that time they can teach you and assess your ability to be safe on the road in all kinds of junctions and manouveres? what bollocks. if thats genuine, the tests are far too easy.
mattian
27th June 2010, 20:58
2 hours training for basic skills test success? what a joke. so in all of that time they can teach you and assess your ability to be safe on the road in all kinds of junctions and manouveres?
No, thats not what the Basic handling skills test is for. Its a very rudimentary test of motorcycle skills. Hence the name..... "BASIC handling skills" you can teach any muppet to ride around cones in 2 hours.
rapid van cleef
27th June 2010, 21:05
well i think it has succeeded in giving muppets a false sense of their abilities on the road. the same test in uk takes 3 hours in a controlled environment, like a large yard with cones etc, then 3-4 hours on the road.......i still dont think its enough for some people. ah well. NZ is a great country to live, nevertheless, and i wouldnt go back to live in uk unless i was paid a LOT of cash and didnt have to work!
Lee Rusty
2nd July 2010, 12:37
treats each rider on their merits and only chrage for the hours you require, so people can do test in 1 hr some take 3 or 4 to get up to standard. call on 021639743 Test /training venue is in Otahuhu.
R-Soul
2nd July 2010, 15:10
2 hours training for basic skills test success? what a joke. so in all of that time they can teach you and assess your ability to be safe on the road in all kinds of junctions and manouveres? what bollocks. if thats genuine, the tests are far too easy.
Well geez its not rocket science. They should at least teach counter steering in it though...
SMOKEU
3rd July 2010, 21:08
"BASIC handling skills" you can teach any muppet to ride around cones in 2 hours.
I've taught a muppet how to ride in 20 minutes. He did bin a few times though.
Cayman911
4th July 2010, 11:03
John wright talked about this himself. he said to me. i cant say how long it will take because it depends on you. some people take 2 hours, some people take 4 hours. so you're own personal learning skills are the variable
Roadsafe Nelson
7th July 2010, 14:35
I didn't think it was possible to fail it.
It is very easy to fail the test!!! :pinch:
The test is based on a demerit point system.. 5 points or more & you fail.. & for example.. looking down at any time is 3 points... having a high wrist is 2 points.. putting a foot down is 3 points.. contacting a marker in the cone weave is 4 points.. failing to use front brake in the quick stop is 5 points... not looking through the curve is 3 points.. etc etc..
points can add up VERY quickly.. & it is very common for people to over estimate their level of skill.. & under estimate the level of actual skill required to pass the test successfully!! :Oops:
Roadsafe have a 98% pass rate when people do our training courses before they sit their BHS test! the other 2 %... well.. some people just shouldn't ride bikes.... :blink:
There are 6 parts of the test to pass.. see here..
http://www.roadsafenelson.co.nz/basic.html
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