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Arronduke
8th July 2010, 22:23
I have made some rearsets...
this is the first set... everything is laser cut incluiding all the holes and stuff...
What would I change... the kick plate is rather heavy... could be done much much lighter.
Started making some out of cardboard.
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then Stainless.. just needs a nice polish.
Can be done in Steel, Ali etc.
These need a little mill time and they will be mint.
Also I can have just the mount... no skid plate.
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Dutchee
8th July 2010, 23:13
Umm, not keen on cardboard ones (I reckon even if they don't break, they'll bend like anything, and if it rains, they'll just distintegrate).
Maybe some alloy ones, but the mechanic has decided he needed his beauty sleep (I figured out years back it really doesn't help), so will get him to reply with a sensible answer tomorrow (okay, we know who we're talking about, it won't be sensible, it'll be drivel). Oh shit, this whole post is drivel.
As you were, nothing to see here, move right along, back to post one.
Damien_Toman
9th July 2010, 19:49
Wow! That red frame looks hot. New slicks on as well :). The rearsets look awesome - but, standard height is far too low - when using slicks. Make them provide good clearance (adjustable maybe) and I'm your first customer! :) A pivot point for adjustment is the way to go - I've already experimented with this and can show you at the next Mt Wellington meeting.
Buckets4Me
9th July 2010, 20:21
Wow! That red frame looks hot. New slicks on as well :). The rearsets look awesome - but, standard height is far too low - when using slicks. Make them provide good clearance (adjustable maybe) and I'm your first customer! :) A pivot point for adjustment is the way to go - I've already experimented with this and can show you at the next Mt Wellington meeting.
get them without the guard and turn them upside down
Damien_Toman
9th July 2010, 20:27
get them without the guard and turn them upside down
The mounting point for the standard footrests is slotted - I don't think upside down can work with std. pegs.
Buckets4Me
9th July 2010, 20:32
I don't think upside down can work with std. pegs.
12mm ally rod and cut drill and tap :)
same as the rs
show you sunday if you want to see
Damien_Toman
9th July 2010, 20:34
Yes please, sounds interesting.
Arronduke
9th July 2010, 21:41
Damin... let me know what you want... 20mm back and 60mm higher and i will send you cardboard templates to try.... when your happy I will do the rest... Stainless, steel, ali... your choice.
one side is with the skid plate... other is without... good thing is it is removable.. unless you dont want the mounting holes.
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with skid plate... spent 2.75hrs on the mill today... next set skid plate will be 3mm plate and I will wled on a rectanglar spacer... still about 1hr mill time per set.<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/?action=view¤t=DSC04361Small.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC04361Small.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
Arronduke
9th July 2010, 21:49
skid plate is 4mm thick now... good buy all that weight
Buckets4Me
9th July 2010, 22:27
can you make them more like this ???
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just some idears on how to make them adjustable
Arronduke
9th July 2010, 22:35
love your style... but ahhh NO.
woud not know where to start....
bogan
9th July 2010, 22:35
can you make them more like this ???
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just some idears on how to make them adjustable
I thought they had to be folding? I can probably CNC mill (3 axis only) something up if anyone wants to try that way, mates rates too ;)
Shit you guys are all too flash, NEW TYRES?! PAINT?!?
Is this buckets?
Henk
10th July 2010, 07:32
Up here in Auckland we've given up on fast so we're going for pretty instead.
Although it's mostly for laughs it does have one upside. People coming along for a look seem to be more tempted to join in and get involved in racing things that look like small scale racebikes rather than piles of old crap. Sounds a bit like bullshit I know but I think there has been at least one new bike turn up every month for the last year.
We've had to run qualifying twice in the B Grade and once in A in the last year year to get the points races down to 18 bikes. And I suspect it's going to be a regualar thing in the A grade in the near future.
Arronduke
10th July 2010, 16:31
A couple more pictures... with the kick plate...
Got to say very pleased.
Laser cutting is soo cool, all the holes etc are cut and everything just lines up perfect.
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Anyone interested in a set just let me know..
Can be made to suit your requirments.
say 40mm higher or back 20mm and up 30mm.
Can send you cardboard temples to see if you like the postion.
Your choice of material... Stailnless, Ali or steel.
With or without kick plate.
Hard to provide a price at the moment but I would sell mine for about $220 and they are Stainless Steel... just need polishing now..LOl.
But they would be cheaper in steel and approx the same in Aluminium.
Without skid plate and you are looking at $120 a set in Stainless....
All depends on what you want
jasonu
10th July 2010, 16:43
[QUOTE=Henk;1129807065]Up here in Auckland we've given up on fast so we're going for pretty instead.
Although it's mostly for laughs it does have one upside. People coming along for a look seem to be more tempted to join in and get involved in racing things that look like small scale racebikes rather than piles of old crap. Sounds a bit like bullshit I know but I think there has been at least one new bike turn up every month for the last year.
Mate I was pushing this exact theory 15 years ago. Nothing worse for the class than someone new showing up for a look and thinking of having a go and seeing some shitbox with a beer crate for a seat and beer can catch bottles winning. That sort of thing made buckets look more like a joke than actual road raceing.
Henk
10th July 2010, 16:58
At Taumaranui this year some locals turned up for a bit of a gander, dad and son got talking to me about getting into it and the 12ish year boy was indignant that he wanted one like mine, even though I was insisting that it wasn't fast and that I had been made to look stupid by most other bikes there for two days (amazing how incorrect cam timing will cause an engine to run like crap and eventually expire).
The appeal was apparently the fact that it looked like a racebike, not a commuter hack, all done with an aftermarket tailpiece and a couple of rattlecans, it's not hard to make them look sort of OK. Making them look really nice as Arrons will no doubt turn out and Connors number 69 already is isn't something I have the skill or patience for, anyway I'd be too scared to crash anything that pretty.
bogan
10th July 2010, 16:58
Your choice of material... Stailnless, Ali or steel.
notice you done a bit of milling on em too, does the laser cutting cause it to work-harden at all, as stainless is already a prick to machine! The guys I work for get quite a bit of water jet cutting done, nicer finish and tigther tolerances iirc, bout the same pricewise I think.
Henk
10th July 2010, 17:07
I spoke to North Shore plate cutting about getting some done in 10mm ali, but never went any further than that. Would probably do them in 8mm ali now but Pete did say that at 10mm they would water cut.
hayd3n
10th July 2010, 17:21
one thing with unbreakable rearset is that you may brake the frame instead
bogan
10th July 2010, 17:32
I spoke to North Shore plate cutting about getting some done in 10mm ali, but never went any further than that. Would probably do them in 8mm ali now but Pete did say that at 10mm they would water cut.
yeh, 8mm ally would be a lot lighter, and perhaps some 6 for the kick plate as it looks like the kick plate sticks out a bit extra, may lower ground clearance while cornering?
gatch
11th July 2010, 19:41
I've found some 5mm ally at work. Pretty cheap and nasty idea, but I'm just going to cut some triangles on the bandsaw, pin about 12 pieces together and machine, drill and tap etc as a stack. Then use 2 pieces per side. Then make some of my patented footpegs, lol.. Screw some nylon knobs on the end and voila..
Henk
11th July 2010, 19:50
Pretty much what I did. Two bits of 5mm ali, cut out with a jig saw and cleaned up with an angle grinder. Didn't bother with the kick plate, bit weird to feel the back of your boot going up and down with the swingarm the first time but no big deal. Not sure how they would reduce cornering clearance though.
Mine are bolted together by the mounting bolts and footpegs, would be better if they were tigged to join the layers together, hasn't caused any issues yet though.
I just used the standard peg pivots and Emgo cheap and nasty aftermarket pegs with nylon screwed to them. Sticking with pivoting pegs since the rules call for them (I think) and they still deck out on occasion and when that happens I'd rather they pivot than dig in and pitch me off the high side.
Buckets4Me
11th July 2010, 20:16
would be better if they were tigged to join the layers together, hasn't caused any issues yet though..
Araldite glue ???
TZ350
11th July 2010, 20:41
I've found some 5mm ally at work. Pretty cheap and nasty idea, but I'm just going to cut some triangles on the bandsaw....
No, not such a bad idea, screw and glue them together like Buckets4me suggests if you want to, cleaned up, I think you could make really good brackets this way.
gatch
12th July 2010, 16:33
We have some Ultra ridiculously strong loctite 680 somewhere in the secret goodies cupboard in the machine shop, a few drops of that will do it..
I messed around with it once, glued a pinion gear to a 30mm shaft. That shaft operates the x travel on one of our little chain hoists. Still going strong.. Glues fingers together a treat too..
F5 Dave
13th July 2010, 09:16
. . . Then make some of my patented footpegs, lol....
Many kart tracks insist that they fold. There are arguments that straight pegs with secure nylon ends would be ok or even better, but if the track rules say folding then it's a dumb argument to have. My hangers have just been ally plate & a trip to my mate's bandsaw (let him do the scary cutting). Emgo pegs have been a little hard to find of late, just the silly slash cut angled ones. But I use Honda brackets, drill a hole & file it square on an angle. Job done. You can either have levers off those pegs or turn a bush & push it into a hole on the plate & a spot of weld to secure.
US site, I usually cut a section off them to make em shorter & turn up some nylon ends. I'll probably make my next set, I have some ally bought for the job.
http://www.powerpartsplus.com/pages/catalogs/viewproductdetailbysku/U2t1U3RhcnRzOiBFbWdvIA==/all/71869/emgo-anodizedaluminum-footpegs-front.aspx
Henk
13th July 2010, 17:33
It's the silly slash cut ones I'm using. They have the bottom open so it's super easy to attach nylon using sodding great wood screws.
F5 Dave
13th July 2010, 18:05
oh well if you can keep the screw out of the way.
Buckets4Me
16th July 2010, 21:41
Many kart tracks insist that they fold. There are arguments that straight pegs with secure nylon ends would be ok or even better, but if the track rules say folding then it's a dumb argument to have. My hangers have just been ally plate & a trip to my mate's bandsaw (let him do the scary cutting). Emgo pegs have been a little hard to find of late, just the silly slash cut angled ones. But I use Honda brackets, drill a hole & file it square on an angle. Job done. You can either have levers off those pegs or turn a bush & push it into a hole on the plate & a spot of weld to secure.
US site, I usually cut a section off them to make em shorter & turn up some nylon ends. I'll probably make my next set, I have some ally bought for the job.
http://www.powerpartsplus.com/pages/catalogs/viewproductdetailbysku/U2t1U3RhcnRzOiBFbWdvIA==/all/71869/emgo-anodizedaluminum-footpegs-front.aspx
I removed my foot pegs and inserted nylon sliders shapet like foot pegs
gets around the folding foot peg rule (I dont have foot pegs) just straight nylon rod groved so they arn't quite so slippery in the wet
you dont need folding frame sliders now do you
F5 Dave
19th July 2010, 10:29
They are still footpegs, just made of something else. Hey I didn't make the rules, or even fully agree with them.
Had looked at nylon years back but they are just too slippery for me.
TZ350
19th July 2010, 20:03
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Back in the day of TZ's it was cool to wrap denim cut from your girl friends jeans around slippery foot pegs and lock wire it in place, worked too.
Pumba
19th July 2010, 20:10
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Back in the day of TZ's it was cool to wrap denim cut from your girl friends jeans around slippery foot pegs and lock wire it in place, worked too.
Was she wearing them at the track at the time said denim was cut from said jeans? and how long did that particular relationship last after said incident?
Kendog
19th July 2010, 20:24
Was she wearing them at the track at the time said denim was cut from said jeans? and how long did that particular relationship last after said incident?
And how short were the jeans cut?
Buckets4Me
19th July 2010, 21:20
Was she wearing them at the track at the time said denim was cut from said jeans? and how long did that particular relationship last after said incident?
knowing how cheap the racers where
#1 yes they where cut at the track that day
#2 yes she was wearing them at the time
#3 who cares there are plenty of fish in the sea (mid 70's)
#4 probably after a few race meating they would have been getting pritty short (specialy if she had dated a few racers before)
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