$664 million

[dpex]

$646 million dollars. That's the latest quote for costs of home 'accidents'. Ten times more than motorcyclists costs!

Twelve folk a week get dead from home accidents! Twelve people a week! Where are we? One a month, maybe?

Do any of these 'home accident' folk pay a targeted levy? Nup.

So why are we being tormented and pilloried, and charged?

It's an outrage.

[SMOKEU]

The government is looking for the easiest target, bikers just happen to be an easy target for them.

[varminter]

I'ts worse than that, what about those that ride their bikes in the bedroom or lounge, double jeopardy surely.

[SMOKEU]

I'ts worse than that, what about those that ride their bikes in the bedroom or lounge, double jeopardy surely.

I wonder what ACC would class that as, a bike crash or a home accident?

[varminter]

Actually, they have just handed out $1.6 billion of taxpayers money, so what's a bit more.

[SMOKEU]

Actually, they have just handed out $1.6 billion of taxpayers money, so what's a bit more.

I call it corporate greed.

[davereid]

Actually, they have just handed out $1.6 billion of taxpayers money, so what's a bit more.

I'm going to pay it all back as soon as my money arrives from Nigeria.

[avgas]

I'm going to pay it all back as soon as my money arrives from Nigeria.
Can you check with them to see if they have my cheap iphone4 I ordered it like 6 months ago

[yungatart]

Forget about the inequities in the ACC system for a bit and just look at that toll! Almost twice the number that die on the roads.
What are they doing about it? Apart from a little pamphlet and an occasional ad on TV, nothing!
Far safer out there riding than being at home, I reckon.

[avgas]

Forget about the inequities in the ACC system for a bit and just look at that toll! Almost twice the number that die on the roads.
What are they doing about it? Apart from a little pamphlet and an occasional ad on TV, nothing!
Far safer out there riding than being at home, I reckon.
May be they hope the dumb ones would die off eventually?

[doc]

Forget about the inequities in the ACC system for a bit and just look at that toll! Almost twice the number that die on the roads.
What are they doing about it? Apart from a little pamphlet and an occasional ad on TV, nothing!
Far safer out there riding than being at home, I reckon.

It's coming they are just softening us up 1st. Think tank is working on how to levy us for risks at home. IMOA

[Fatt Max]

It's coming they are just softening us up 1st. Think tank is working on how to levy us for risks at home. IMOA

Interesting concept......

I can see this coming into play to be honest, another stealth tax....home accident levy, the insurance companies who by virtue are nicely tucked away in the governments pocket will see a benefit in adding that to your premiums.

"Ahhh, but what about health insurance, does that not cover me...?"

"No missus, thats seperate. This is a further tax to cover the cost of your accident"

"Please explain"

"No"

"Why?"

"Cos we are a bastard scumbag insurance company working on behalf of a greed driven government with friends in every boardroom over the ditch"

Bastards....!!

[DEATH_INC.]

I'ts worse than that, what about those that ride their bikes in the bedroom or lounge, double jeopardy surely.
And what if you sped as well????? :shit:

[tamarillo]

$646 million dollars. That's the latest quote for costs of home 'accidents'. Ten times more than motorcyclists costs!

Twelve folk a week get dead from home accidents! Twelve people a week! Where are we? One a month, maybe?

Do any of these 'home accident' folk pay a targeted levy? Nup.

So why are we being tormented and pilloried, and charged?

It's an outrage.

You're not comparing apples with apples - look at the numbers of people in their homes at any moment compared with how mnay on bikes...silly comparison.

We got hit because we are too stupid - we fell for Nick's simple method of getting what he wants - if you want 10 you ask for 20 and then knock it back in negotiation and end up getting 12! We fell for it like babes and fools.

Why did we not get public support? Well I saw 2 bikes on short distance to work in Nelson today - one wearing shorts and the other belting past slow cars on the yellow line. This is Nelson - we don't have trafific jams! Arses like this means we will never get public support.

[SS90]

Erm, no guys...this is a national government.... like, you know .........SOCIALIST government...

Promoting these things in the media is their way of creating outrage, and allowing PRIVATE insurance companies to take over.

PRIVATE insurance is the backbone of socialism.

[FJRider]

It's coming they are just softening us up 1st. Think tank is working on how to levy us for risks at home. IMOA

Bring back the TV licence .... and add an ACC levey to it ... :innocent: :shifty: :gob:

[Swoop]

And what if you sped as well????? :shit:
There will be a speed camera in the hallway... at the end of the long straight bit.:shifty:

[marie_speeds]

I don't see a problem with enjoying yourself at home. So it occassionally results in an accident and ACC claim. But at least it was fun.....

[dpex]

In the NZ Hearld it was reported that 'home' accidents....that's accidents which don't attract any form of ACC levy.....cost ACC $664 million!

If memory serves, bikers cost the system $64 million, less than 10% of home accident costs.

So here's a small group...we bikers...attracting a massive levy, yet those who cost the system ten times as much pay nothing.

Why is that?

[AllanB]

Because they can not be directly taxed, I mean charged. There is no specific ACC levy paid by home owners. Though at least one of them is normally working and paying taxes :yes:

Shit happens - that's why it is called an Accident. I do however think they should look seriously at some of the 'accidents' and stop paying for stupidity.

I may be wrong - as I have not done it, by if I get my dick stuck in the end of the vacuum cleaner any resulting damage etc may be paid by ACC.

If I am wearing some of those stupid pants some young men wear - you know the ones that hang down to their knees and the belt tightens up under their arses - if I'm wearing them and fall over due to the restricted movement and smash my knee, ACC will pay out for it.

And if I ride my motorcycle in my swim suit (settle down girls) and fall off, ACC will pay out for skin grafts etc.

And don't bother about wanking on about personal rights to fuck or wear what you like, personal rights to do as you see fit have long gone and I'm sick of paying for idiots.

[NighthawkNZ]

In the NZ Hearld it was reported that 'home' accidents....that's accidents which don't attract any form of ACC levy.....cost ACC $664 million!

There is a levy in your PAYE for ACC that covers you for any accident you have during you private, recreation and including driving, riding, sport blah blah blah...