New Road Race Rules, 1 Jan 2011

[RDjase]

http://www.mnz.co.nz/competitionrules.aspx

http://www.mnz.co.nz/newsDetail.aspx?SectionID=29&ArticleID=33950

[Shaun]

Re the Superstock rules

g) Rear suspension damping units and springs
h) Front suspension, springs and damping parts, including, fork
caps, external compression and preload adjusters may be
modified or replaced, but the external appearance of the forks
must not be changed


WOW, this wording 100% allows for FULL internal modifications of STD forks, everything in the CARTRIDGE is a part of the damping.
I guess the world wide financuall trouble must be all over

[Tony.OK]

Re the Superstock rules

g) Rear suspension damping units and springs
h) Front suspension, springs and damping parts, including, fork
caps, external compression and preload adjusters may be
modified or replaced, but the external appearance of the forks
must not be changed


WOW, this wording 100% allows for FULL internal modifications of STD forks, everything in the CARTRIDGE is a part of the damping.

PS GSXR600 Riders, best get into the online for sale forum here, and purchase my Ohlin's NIX 30mm kit and shock and damper

I guess the world wide financuall trouble must be all over
Think thats the 1000 rules there wee fella.......scroll down a bit further for the 600 rules


g) Front suspension springs and internal components,
(proprietary internal modifications are allowed to base and
mid valve shim stacks, pistons and adjuster needles) OEM
cartridges and cartridge rods must be used without
modification. External appearance must remain unchanged,
Full cartridge kits may not be used

Interesting that levers must be stock or a replica stock copy.......that rules out any shorties, pazzo etc.


p) brake and clutch levers but these must be replicas of the
OEM levers

[Shaun]

Think thats the 1000 rules there wee fella.......scroll down a bit further for the 600 rules



Interesting that levers must be stock or a replica stock copy.......that rules out any shorties, pazzo etc.



OOPs by me indeed mate, but still? why one and not the other, and why even one

[Tony.OK]

OOPs by me indeed mate, but still? why one and not the other, and why even one

Agree totally.........If I had the balls and $$ to race, the 600 susp rules would actually put me off, knowing what's gonna happen to tyres etc, that and trying to sort springs and redamping issues etc.

Lucky my balls are very small like my bank balance :innocent:

[Biggles08]

Interesting that levers must be stock or a replica stock copy.......that rules out any shorties, pazzo etc.

What about TITAX long levers (Cheaper than OEM I will add too)???? Are they "Replica copies" or do we have to use cheap "made in China with no real safety testing done" copies that cost $20? I hope the long versions of aftermarket levers are allowed personally.

[Kiwi Graham]

My Acrobat server isn't working at work so cant see the regs;

does this leaver rule apply to the 1000's as well?

[lee]

Well looks like there will be an ohlins TTX rear for a zx6 for sale then.:bye: bugger, I'd only just the bike how I wanted it.

[kittytamer]

Well looks like there will be an ohlins TTX rear for a zx6 for sale then.:bye: bugger, I'd only just the bike how I wanted it.

or just race in Supersport. All the above talk is about the SuperStOCK regs.
Surely though this only applies to the Nationals, most clubs appear to be sticking with the Formula classes, at least for now...

[Biggles08]

My Acrobat server isn't working at work so cant see the regs;

does this leaver rule apply to the 1000's as well?

Yes it does. :mellow:

[White trash]

What about TITAX long levers (Cheaper than OEM I will add too)???? Are they "Replica copies" or do we have to use cheap "made in China with no real safety testing done" copies that cost $20? I hope the long versions of aftermarket levers are allowed personally.


Yes it does. :mellow:

Who have you contacted at MNZ for clarification mate?

[Shaun]

Who have you contacted at MNZ for clarification mate?


It is on there web site. I will be at the docks by 7 tonight dude

[Biggles08]

Who have you contacted at MNZ for clarification mate?
Just the email shown on the MNZ site....waiting for a reply for clarification on if the TITAX are allowed or not.

The rule does apply to the 1000cc Stock Class too though...it says so. I just want to see if they allow any aftermarket levers of normal length so to exclude shorties or if the rule is meant to exclude any other levers apart from those that look "identical" to stock. Personally I have little faith in these "stock copy" levers for very good reason...
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[Shaun]

Agree totally.........If I had the balls and $$ to race, the 600 susp rules would actually put me off, knowing what's gonna happen to tyres etc, that and trying to sort springs and redamping issues etc.

Lucky my balls are very small like my bank balance :innocent:


That will not be as exspensive to achieve as some will have you believe mate

[RDjase]

The new Road Race rules have been released and will come to effect IMMEDIATELY.

This is from the MNZ site

http://www.mnz.co.nz/newsDetail.aspx?SectionID=29&ArticleID=33950

Must have changed the time the rules start since yesterday

[RDjase]

SUPERLITE REGULATIONS
Superlite class will exist for ‘formula’ type machines. The class listed
below (1-1 to 1-5) allows modifications to the machines to be carried
out while still keeping a similar level of performance between
machines.
These rules apply to all National Championship and Endurance
Championship races. At other meetings these rules will apply unless
varied in the Supplementary Regulations.
1. Capacity Groups:
(Refer to rule 5 below for specifications and restrictions within
a capacity group)
1.1 Multi-cylinder four stroke up to 450cc
1.1a the working displacement of a 3 or 4 cylinder 4 stroke
(cylinders producing power) shall be no more than 450cc.


:Punk:1.2 Multi-cylinder production based two strokes up to 400cc:2thumbsup


1.3 Twin cylinder, air cooled, four stroke up to 750cc
1.4 Single cylinder four stroke 251cc - Open Capacity
1.5 Single cylinder two stroke 200cc - 500cc
1.6 Twin cylinder, 2 or more valves, water cooled 4 stroke up to
650cc

[lee]

or just race in Supersport. All the above talk is about the SuperStOCK regs.
Surely though this only applies to the Nationals, most clubs appear to be sticking with the Formula classes, at least for now...

Yep exactly, I'm intending to do nationals, have been planning and saving for it since the start of the year. I simply cannot afford to buy a complete exhaust system for my bike and get it tuned to supersport rules. Anything to keep the costs down. I guess, selling my shock will generate a bit more money.

[lee]

nad because I forgot to write it in my last reply. I already had the ohlins from a different bike.

hope my disjointed responses are making sense(?)

[Robert Taylor]

We have and have had for sometime a 3 level suspension options upgrade package for all budgets. There are those who like to perpetuate an unfounded rumour that we are expensive but thats not so as the varying levels we have suit all budgets

Level 1 Revalve and respring original shock / forks

Level 2 Fit piston kits ( Race Tech or Ohlins ) and respring

Level 2a Fit a combination of Race Tech kitted front and Ohlins rear

Level 3 Ohlins front fork cartridges, Ohlins rear shock

Obviously there are certain cases where stock pistons are just not going to cut the mustard but we always work with the customer to achieve the best result at the best price. Many people will testify to that!

We are also a team! Dennis Shaw and I have been working with suspension since 1985, in Dennis's case a handful of years earlier.

[Kiwi Graham]

Mmmm, my whatever make, fold up leavers added 40bhp to my bike and made me irresistible to women.
So now I have to go and buy mega bucks OE leavers :(
Still at least I can grind the crank a llittle :shifty: Don't suppose that would cost much eh DC :innocent:

[Ozzy27]

:blink:
A change from the proposed Supersport rules
Wiring loom, ECU and fuel injection control units, only the
standard functions of OEM ECU's are permitted to be used
(this excludes quickshifter functions)
SO you can fit wiring loom and ecu and everyone will have one. Then Ban the use of a function that all bikes will have and is very hard to enforce! Why oh why???
This lot are out of touch:sick:

[Wingnut]

Levers! They are restricting Levers? Are you kidding me? Why?

[Rcktfsh]

We are also a team! Dennis Shaw and I have been working with suspension since 1985, in Dennis's case a handful of years earlier.

Going from his decrepit looks thats a bloody big handful.

[k14]

Levers! They are restricting Levers? Are you kidding me? Why?
Yeah agree, they have very little benefit for the people that can afford them apart from looking cool. Why would you ban them and make the rules more complex than they need to be.

[cowpoos]

What about TITAX long levers (Cheaper than OEM I will add too)???? Are they "Replica copies" or do we have to use cheap "made in China with no real safety testing done" copies that cost $20? I hope the long versions of aftermarket levers are allowed personally.

Why don't ya just cast your own levers off an original...make as many as you like...wouldn't cost more than a few bucks each!

[scracha]

Levers! They are restricting Levers? Are you kidding me? Why?
I can only think to stop cheap copies for safety sake? Pretty hard to enforce. This ban rules out the very practical fold up levers. Daft.

Wot ozzie said too...daft.

RDJase...."400cc 2 smoke production based" in F3. Obviously it's banning GP frames but still unsure if an RGV framed NSR400 would be ok?

[steveyb]

Everyone can just ride 125GP, the rules are easy as.
Almost anyone but a total fat bastard can ride one if they work at it.

Enjoy your stressing over the new rules for everything else.

[Pussy]

Going from his decrepit looks thats a bloody big handful.

Denis is, however, a LOT taller than you! :p

[Biggles08]

Why don't ya just cast your own levers off an original...make as many as you like...wouldn't cost more than a few bucks each!
Great idea...as always:innocent:

[NinjaBoy]

:blink:
A change from the proposed Supersport rules
Wiring loom, ECU and fuel injection control units, only the
standard functions of OEM ECU's are permitted to be used
(this excludes quickshifter functions)
SO you can fit wiring loom and ecu and everyone will have one. Then Ban the use of a function that all bikes will have and is very hard to enforce! Why oh why???
This lot are out of touch:sick:

Yet under 7.1 The following may be added:
e) Quickshifters

Are they just trying to limit the use of the thumb quickshifters or is it an unfortunate cut/paste error ?

[Shaun]

:blink:
A change from the proposed Supersport rules
Wiring loom, ECU and fuel injection control units, only the
standard functions of OEM ECU's are permitted to be used
(this excludes quickshifter functions)
SO you can fit wiring loom and ecu and everyone will have one. Then Ban the use of a function that all bikes will have and is very hard to enforce! Why oh why???
This lot are out of touch:sick:


English dictionerys are very hard to understand

"function [ˈfʌŋkʃən]
n
1. the natural action or intended purpose of a person or thing in a specific role the function of a hammer is to hit nails into wood

maybe that's what we are supposed to do:gob:

I rang Peter Ramage about that one over a month ago, call him and ask his discription on this one.


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[Billy]

Who have you contacted at MNZ for clarification mate?

Or more to the point,With all the other expense added with the new rules,Youd think tne banning of fancy aftermarket levers would be the least of their worries!!

Imagine the uproar if they banned hair gel and Raybans

[codgyoleracer]

Or more to the point,With all the other expense added with the new rules,Youd think tne banning of fancy aftermarket levers would be the least of their worries!!

Imagine the uproar if they banned hair gel and Raybans

Not forgetting the anti-wrinkle cream Billy

[Kiwi Graham]

Not forgetting the anti-wrinkle cream Billy

You should moisturise Glen ;)

[Billy]

You should moisturise Glen ;)

He does,But he only uses it on one bit and the wrinkles are back in less than 30 seconds.LOFL

[k14]

Not forgetting the anti-wrinkle cream Billy
What about the viagra?

[cowpoos]

What about the viagra?

Why do you use it to keep up right?

[Shaun]

SUZUKI TRI SERIES ROCK ON:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Bye Bye nats sadly

[Kevin G]

Yet under 7.1 The following may be added:
e) Quickshifters

Are they just trying to limit the use of the thumb quickshifters or is it an unfortunate cut/paste error ?

Hi.
The wording in the proposed rules did not say the part that is in brackets. The original wording would exclude (make illegal) ECU based quickshifters such as Yoshi, HRC etc as it is not a standard function of the OEM ECU so the statement "this excludes quickshifter functions" then makes them OK and legal otherwise only non ECU based quickshifters could be used.

Clear as mud, good carry on.

Kevin Goddard

[Kevin G]

:blink:
A change from the proposed Supersport rules
Wiring loom, ECU and fuel injection control units, only the
standard functions of OEM ECU's are permitted to be used
(this excludes quickshifter functions)
SO you can fit wiring loom and ecu and everyone will have one. Then Ban the use of a function that all bikes will have and is very hard to enforce! Why oh why???
This lot are out of touch:sick:

Hi.
The wording in the proposed rules did not say the part that is in brackets. The original wording would exclude (make illegal) ECU based quickshifters such as Yoshi, HRC etc as it is not a standard function of the OEM ECU so the statement "this excludes quickshifter functions" then makes them OK and legal otherwise only non ECU based quickshifters could be used.

Clear as mud, good carry on.

Kevin Goddard

[slowpoke]

Not forgetting the anti-wrinkle cream Billy

Phew!! Just as well the telly coverage is non existent eh?! (speaking for myself here)

[Maido]

Hi.
The wording in the proposed rules did not say the part that is in brackets. The original wording would exclude (make illegal) ECU based quickshifters such as Yoshi, HRC etc as it is not a standard function of the OEM ECU so the statement "this excludes quickshifter functions" then makes them OK and legal otherwise only non ECU based quickshifters could be used.

Clear as mud, good carry on.

Kevin Goddard

Cheers Kev, I was wondering about this also, as soon as you said that it made perfect sense.