Just a thought

[Gibbo89]

As I'm a learner I am not meant to operate my motorbike between 10pm and 5am. But as I am on my full car license, does that mean that if i had a moped I can drive till my hearts content all night long? (until the scooter ran out of petty)

Barring the fact that I'm on my 250, if i had a 70cc scooter, and a 50cc scooter... then I am allowed to ride the wee moped (after 10pm), but not the 70cc (hypothetical) scooter, is this correct??

Edit: if this is the case... it seems pretty stupid! (or else I'm the stupid one for thinking I'm right!)

from, dazed on confused.

[JudaBaker]

There's quite a few stupid laws in place. The driving/riding curfew is pretty retarded though.

[Gibbo89]

There's quite a few stupid laws in place. The driving/riding curfew is pretty retarded though.

yeah, it has me kinda stumped

[JudaBaker]

I think the idea is that you shouldn't be on the road when the smallest amount of traffic and pedestrians are out, as you will learn and improve less without all those hazards distracting you. Either that or it's just because it's dark at night, which doesn't make much sense either.

[John_H]

I think it's something to do with when the most amount of accidents occur, probably relative to the amount of traffic around at that time.

[grusomhat]

Yup, you would be sweet if you were out on a moped. Disturbing really.

[Gibbo89]

Yup, you would be sweet if you were out on a moped. Disturbing really.

that's just stupid eh. I mean, mopeds can barely sit on the road at 50 as it is.

[Gibbo89]

I think it's something to do with when the most amount of accidents occur, probably relative to the amount of traffic around at that time.

But 20cc's is all it takes for me to be on the road at night or to be in bed saying my prayers. :bleh:

[\m/]

It's bullshit aye. When I get a bike I won't be (legally) able to ride it on the road between 10pm-5am, but as I have a full class 2, I will be able to drive any class 2 truck at night. Which is more likely to injure/kill other people if I crash, a 12000kg truck or a 150kg motorcycle?

[Gibbo89]

It's bullshit aye. When I get a bike I won't be (legally) able to ride it on the road between 10pm-5am, but as I have a full class 2, I will be able to drive any class 2 truck at night. Which is more likely to injure/kill other people if I crash, a 12000kg truck or a 150kg motorcycle?

good point

[Marmoot]

Because considering the car license you are likely to be skilled enough that the risk of accidents happening is manageable.

But since you are obviously learning on your motorcycle, chances of accident happening can be significantly higher, and considering how it is significantly quieter at those curfew hours, you are at significantly higher risk of crashing and not seen and thus being found dead in the morning just because you couldn't receive the first aid required.

Makes sense to me.

[Gibbo89]

Because considering the car license you are likely to be skilled enough that the risk of accidents happening is manageable.

But since you are obviously learning on your motorcycle, chances of accident happening can be significantly higher, and considering how it is significantly quieter at those curfew hours, you are at significantly higher risk of crashing and not seen and thus being found dead in the morning just because you couldn't receive the first aid required.

Makes sense to me.

i've had a scooter for the last few years. my old scooter could go near 70 (not for long as it wasn't very healthy), that's what i'm limited to on my 250! i drove round at all times during the night when i had to.

[avgas]

It's bullshit aye. When I get a bike I won't be (legally) able to ride it on the road between 10pm-5am, but as I have a full class 2, I will be able to drive any class 2 truck at night. Which is more likely to injure/kill other people if I crash, a 12000kg truck or a 150kg motorcycle?
Life's a bitch
Then you marry one

[Marmoot]

i've had a scooter for the last few years. my old scooter could go near 70 (not for long as it wasn't very healthy), that's what i'm limited to on my 250! i drove round at all times during the night when i had to.

Sorry, just to make sure I get this right: you've been driving your car round at all times during the night, or have been riding your bike?

[Berries]

Which is more likely to injure/kill other people if I crash, a 12000kg truck or a 150kg motorcycle?
The truck. But then which is more likely to crash ? The motorbike. And which is more likely to injure/kill you ? The motorbike.

A lot of Rules are crap, but this one is for the protection of new and inexperienced riders. Maybe there should be a get out clause if you already have a full licence for another class ? Funnily enough, I read last night that the UK are thinking of introducing something similar -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11376809

[Gibbo89]

Sorry, just to make sure I get this right: you've been driving your car round at all times during the night, or have been riding your bike?

all good, i have had my full car license for almost 3 years now. so driving around in my car at night, avoiding doing it on my 250 (but would if i really had to) and my scooter was driven around at night too whilst on my full car license

[aprilia_RS250]

I managed to avoid 2 tickets for riding after 10pm....:niceone:

Told them the boss kept me in and that i'm going straight home (which was the truth anway).

[Jonno.]

The law is like that because most people on their learners are 15/16 and still go to school. People (particularly people in school) are more tired between 10pm-6am.

[MSTRS]

The law is like that because most people on their learners are 15/16 and still go to school. People (particularly people in school) are more tired between 10pm-6am.

In addition to which, when the law re night-time restriction was brought in, TPTB erroneously assumed that most learners would be either schoolkids, or working, either way had already put in a full day and would be tired, therefore increasing their risk of crashing. People doing night shifts at that time were reasonably rare, and I believe could get an exemption due to their circumstances.
Like a lot of the learner restrictions, this one does not suit all, and is probably past it's use-by date.

[Juzz976]

If your male and under 30 your gonna get picked on by cops and ticketed for everything they can get away with, if not you'll most likely get let off with a warning.