Now that is a justifiable sentence!!!

[Ramius]

"On the charge of murder in the first degree, you are hereby confined and imprisoned to the state penetentiary for life, with a mandatory term of 50 years to be served before eligibility of parole."*

Now that is an excellent sentence! Come to NZ, where we will give you 16 years for 5 murders!


Where is the accountability and the justice?

*The sentence was handed down for a guy who killed his girlfriend.

[ManDownUnder]

"On the charge of murder in the first degree, you are hereby confined and imprisoned to the state penetentiary for life, with a mandatory term of 50 years to be served before eligibility of parole."*

Now that is an excellent sentence! Come to NZ, where we will give you 16 years for 5 murders!


Where is the accountability and the justice?

*The sentence was handed down for a guy who killed his girlfriend.

Agreed - but I find it hard to take your posts seriously with that guy... doing that thing in your avatar...

oooo it's disturbing...
MDU

[Hitcher]

New Zealand has one of this highest incarceration rates in the developed world. I don't think that locking people up is an answer in itself. We also tend to lock folks up for unreasonably long times for crimes against or involving property, and for comparatively short time for crimes against people. But then that's just a generalisation.

And all generalisations are false (including this one).

[Str8 Jacket]

"On the charge of murder in the first degree, you are hereby confined and imprisoned to the state penetentiary for life, with a mandatory term of 50 years to be served before eligibility of parole."*

Now that is an excellent sentence! Come to NZ, where we will give you 16 years for 5 murders!


Where is the accountability and the justice?

*The sentence was handed down for a guy who killed his girlfriend.

Where exactly do you work dude? . . . . This sounds remarkebly familiar :whistle:

[Maximus]

Where exactly do you work dude? . . . . This sounds remarkebly familiar :whistle:

Hey Ramius, don't answer that, shes dodgy you know :whistle: Probably wants to issue a "warrant" on your wages!

(be especially worried if you owe money on fines)

*waits for bite, or arse kicking which ever comes first* :msn-wink:

[Fart]

I propose 50 years doing slave labour so that they can pay for the cost of the jails. Maybe making NZ T-shirts for tourist or somthing like that.

[Maximus]

I propose 50 years doing slave labour so that they can pay for the cost of the jails. Maybe making NZ T-shirts for tourist or somthing like that.

Now thats actually a bloody good idea!! Some people in Jail get looked after better than us! They get meals cooked for them basically everything is done for them, don't think that most of them even have to THINK for themselves!

[Fart]

You known how the new Motorway proposal is budgeted to cost us $billions? Why not use all those FREE labour in prison to build the motorways for us? Free prison labour should reduce our motorway construction cost by at least 30%. And when they come out of prison they should have a skill as a construction worker. There should be no excuse for not working. Problems solved !

[badlieutenant]

New Zealand has one of this highest incarceration rates in the developed world. I don't think that locking people up is an answer in itself. We also tend to lock folks up for unreasonably long times for crimes against or involving property, and for comparatively short time for crimes against people. But then that's just a generalisation.

And all generalisations are false (including this one).
it may be a generalisation but I still remember been pissed off that some guys who tried to steal an ATM (sounded well thought out, no armed robbery required etc) got 16 years or there abouts and a mother who beat her baby to death with a kettle cord got 3 or 4 years! WTF ?
pretty clear message there........... :weird: :weird: :weird:

[Maximus]

You knolw how the Motorway is costing us $billions? Why not use all those FREE labour in prison to build the motorways for us? Free prison labour should reduce our motorway construction cost by at least 30%. And when they come out of prison they should have a skill as a construction worker. There should be no excuse for not working. Problems solved !

Here, here!! Give that man a beer!! :drinkup:

[Ramius]

Hey Ramius, don't answer that, shes dodgy you know :whistle: Probably wants to issue a "warrant" on your wages!

(be especially worried if you owe money on fines)

*waits for bite, or arse kicking which ever comes first* :msn-wink:



Ooooh...an ATW....scary stuff....so what do you think I do for a job, that is when I am not on ACC and licking my own man breasts? :weird:

[Ramius]

Where exactly do you work dude? . . . . This sounds remarkebly familiar :whistle:

Ooooh...ATM ACC works for me...but, just last night, some random person on the street said I looked familiar, and often people say I am remarkable, so, I guess that makes me remarkably familiar? :weird:

Rep points for whoever can tell me where I work (Just because I can't remember) :grouphug:

[jazbug5]

You known how the new Motorway proposal is budgeted to cost us $billions? Why not use all those FREE labour in prison to build the motorways for us? Free prison labour should reduce our motorway construction cost by at least 30%. And when they come out of prison they should have a skill as a construction worker. There should be no excuse for not working. Problems solved !

Great on paper, but wouldn't that result in higher unemployment down the line..?

Personally, I find it hard to believe that property can be put at a higher value than people's lives; and why is it that 'white collar' thieves (that usually get away with much higher sums) get less time than 'ordinary' thieves...? Hmmm.

[Ramius]

Agreed - but I find it hard to take your posts seriously with that guy... doing that thing in your avatar...

oooo it's disturbing...
MDU

There you go, for the sanity of you, and all those others that find it hard to watch a grown man lick his own nipples, I have changed my evil ways and gone for a more subdue picture...

[Artifice]

is it a cross between jabba the hutt and ronald mc donald?

[stevedee]

I propose the $1.50 bullet in the head solution, much less than the $50,000plus per annum it costs for the next few years.

[Ixion]

I propose the $1.50 bullet in the head solution, much less than the $50,000plus per annum it costs for the next few years.

That's a cheap bullet, where do you get your ammo ?

[MSTRS]

I propose the $1.50 bullet in the head solution, much less than the $50,000plus per annum it costs for the next few years.
aka 9mm haemorage. Bit drastic for a license scam tho.
Edit :Oops: :confused: :slap: wrong thread. As you were

[Marmoot]

I propose 50 years doing slave labour so that they can pay for the cost of the jails. Maybe making NZ T-shirts for tourist or somthing like that.

That's what they do in 3rd world countries, and also in America.
Not slave-labour, but at least it helps the jail system to support itself even if only partially. :niceone:

It would mean goverment "subsidizing the jail system, instead of giving crims paid-holiday".

I totally support that. Heck, I totally support you!
When is your presidential candidacy? :Punk:

[Fart]

I totally support that. Heck, I totally support you!
When is your presidential candidacy? :Punk:

If G W Bush can become president, heck even my English Bulldog can have a chance of the presidency. Bring it on. :Punk:

[Pixie]

New Zealand has one of this highest incarceration rates in the developed world. I don't think that locking people up is an answer in itself. We also tend to lock folks up for unreasonably long times for crimes against or involving property, and for comparatively short time for crimes against people. But then that's just a generalisation.

And all generalisations are false (including this one).
Lynch 'em then

[Ramius]

New Zealand has one of this highest incarceration rates in the developed world. I don't think that locking people up is an answer in itself. We also tend to lock folks up for unreasonably long times for crimes against or involving property, and for comparatively short time for crimes against people. But then that's just a generalisation.

And all generalisations are false (including this one).

Is it more to the point though, that the sentences are so light that the criminals become recidivist offenders and continually go to jail, hence giving the statistic of high incarceration rates? In America, the key is, well, there is no key, because once you are in, they throw it away...

[Hitcher]

Is it more to the point though, that the sentences are so light that the criminals become recidivist offenders and continually go to jail, hence giving the statistic of high incarceration rates? In America, the key is, well, there is no key, because once you are in, they throw it away...
There may be some truth in what you say...