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raftn
30th November 2010, 21:20
Are you brand loyal?

Here are some of my thoughts on this , and other stuff!

http://rogerfleming-raftnn.blogspot.com/2010/11/brand-loyality.html

I am interested to hear what other people think.

scumdog
30th November 2010, 21:39
If they do all I expect of them I am 'brand loyal':yes:

baptist
30th November 2010, 22:02
Another good Blog Rog. Personally I ride a little Yamahahahaha (have to do it all legally these days) but if you asked me about bikes it would be Triumph 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Maybe 'cos I am a Pom but for the last thirty five years I have loved the bikes ( even my Dads Speed Twin), so many bikes seem to be souless, maybe well built, reliable and fun (mine seems to be all of these), but.... something is missing. When the Trophy was first launched in the UK back in the 90's I was :gob: that the Brits could do it , since then great bikes have followed one after another.

Dunno maybe just an old pom with Rose tinted glasses but I want a Bonnie...:shutup:

ukusa
30th November 2010, 23:03
Are you brand loyal?

Here are some of my thoughts on this , and other stuff!

http://rogerfleming-raftnn.blogspot.com/2010/11/brand-loyality.html

I am interested to hear what other people think.

For bikes, yes I probably am, I will probably always look for the next model Triumph first. Definitely not for cars or household electronics etc (TV's etc). ipod is probably the exception.

motor_mayhem
30th November 2010, 23:36
Are you brand loyal?

Here are some of my thoughts on this , and other stuff!

http://rogerfleming-raftnn.blogspot.com/2010/11/brand-loyality.html

I am interested to hear what other people think.

Perhaps this might tell you what Suzuki's been doing:
Dirt Bike Magazine - RMX450Z (http://www.dirtbikemagazine.com/Me2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=4397CD89041A4B7E9BAF4D5D70E584C6) which was voted the best bike for $ in KiwiRider mag. Suzuki were the first of the Jap companies to release an EFI dirt bike in 2008 (info here (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/350/1318/Motorcycle-Article/2008-Suzuki-Off-Road-First-Look.aspx)). Triumph are good but I would hardly call them an innovator. IMO that title should go to Yamaha - The recent R1 change in cylinder firing order, and the YZF450 engine changes, carb in front, exhaust behind and head angle changed and a partial to KTM for making a different cc engine.

Gremlin
1st December 2010, 01:53
I enjoy pretending brand loyalty, but if something else made much more sense, met my needs much better, then I would change...

Mudfart
1st December 2010, 05:33
I wanted to stick to kwaka and their green ninjas. My first bike was a brand new green 250, however when i needed to upgrade I was offered ZERO support from any kwaka dealer, I was interested to find out they just didnt care.
bummer coz the 2011 zx10 looks mean, and the first jappa to have all the bells and whistles in one bike.

Maha
1st December 2010, 05:52
Brand Loyalty? hell yes, I love my Kellogs Crunchie Nuts...:yes:

popelli
1st December 2010, 05:58
Brand Loyalty

yes if they fuck up I never buy another one

Owl
1st December 2010, 06:27
Are you brand loyal?

While I'm owning it..............:yes:

MIXONE
1st December 2010, 06:29
Yes for Whittakers chocolate.

Corse1
1st December 2010, 06:31
I would be but then I would be trashed for being a honda owner:innocent:

Banditbandit
1st December 2010, 08:28
I enjoy pretending brand loyalty, but if something else made much more sense, met my needs much better, then I would change...


While I'm owning it..............:yes:

I'm much the same ... I'm loyal to the brand I ride now ..

I have been "brand-loyal" in the past to BSA - Triumph - Honda and BMW ...

Now I'm brand loyal to Suzuki ...

I wonder what I'll be "brand loyal" to next ?

Zamiam
1st December 2010, 08:36
Yeah I'm brand loyal - To the Missus!

SVboy
1st December 2010, 08:36
I am pretty brand loyal to Suzuki, which is interesting as their build quality is not as good as a Honda, not as "emotionally inspiring" as a Kawa and I used to have Yammies as a youth....But the suzis just seem to "fit" me best and my foray into a Kawa didnt go well!!

onearmedbandit
1st December 2010, 08:50
I'm open to whatever the best manufacturer can offer at the time.

This message is brought to you by SUZUKI. 'Own the race track'.

Big Dave
1st December 2010, 08:51
Nope. No brand loyalty here. I choose the machine suits *my* needs or the application best. Who makes it has relevance for servicing and parts etc - and some social considerations RAT eg - but any emotional attachments to corporations I grew out of 10 years ago.

onearmedbandit
1st December 2010, 08:59
but any emotional attachments to corporations I grew out of 10 years ago.

Awwww, did they not want to be your pen-pal?

Hitcher
1st December 2010, 09:01
Since becoming a motorcyclist I have owned two Yamahas, a Honda, a Kawasaki and an Aprilia.

Latterly my brand loyalty for a motorcycle has been coloured by what can only be describe as massively incompetent disinterest by the official New Zealand importer.

I don't buy anything based on what's the cheapest.

My choice of tyres is based on proven performance. My fuel choice is based on the most convenient outlet. My gear choices are based on specifications and fit -- particularly important for those of us with 3XL heads, whose choices are limited by the suppliers who manufacture appropriate items.

Big Dave
1st December 2010, 09:09
Awwww, did they not want to be your pen-pal?

Yeah - does sound a bit harsh.

The people I like, but since I've been going to all the different brand events I've noted that the folks attending are all remarkably similar. Good - and there for a good time. None of them like hearing it btw - but they are - they just have different tastes in machines.

scracha
2nd December 2010, 22:37
No brand loyalty here. I'm a slut who'll ride anything I can.

Big Dave
2nd December 2010, 22:39
No brand loyalty here. I'm a slut who'll ride anything I can.


I wish I'd said that.
Don't worry Oscar, you will.

fuknKIWI
3rd December 2010, 21:05
Yes for Whittakers chocolate.

Yah we can get that ere in Oz from time to time in the mainstream supermarkets.
They've come a long way from the old peanut slab:woohoo:

Taz
3rd December 2010, 21:18
I would never ride anything but a Harley. Harleys rule! All other bikes are for gurls or fags!

Blinkwing
3rd December 2010, 22:15
I would never ride anything but a Harley. Harleys rule! All other bikes are for gurls or fags!

That answers a few lingering questions I had ... :innocent:

Coolz
5th December 2010, 11:50
Johnny Reb boots...allways got me home when I rode a shovelhead.

MIXONE
5th December 2010, 12:26
Johnny Reb boots...allways got me home when I rode a shovelhead.

I can't guess how many miles mine have done in the last 20 years but they are still going strong.

AllanB
5th December 2010, 12:32
Not for bikes - emotive things and the physical appeal is part of the buying process for me so I go with what feels right, fits the bill and I can afford.

Now give me a unlimited budget and a workshop full of fancy tools and I'd be buying based on a suitable starter point for modifying :yes:


I found your blog interesting, if somewhat pro Triumph (and why not, it just shows if they build a good one you are more likely to be loyal to the brand) while I agree they have been innovative in the past with the original Speed, the imposing 2.3 l triple, others in the range are a logical marketing move - Street - a little brother to the Speed with a borrowed engine. 675 - yes a brilliant engine - they needed one as their 4 cylinder 600 could not hang with the japs so they went their own way (respect). Bonnie - why TF they do not hot rod one is beyond me - I think some marketing chaps are just waiting for a specific year. Scrambler is a cool nod to the past. The new big bore twin cruiser is too Harley for me (I'd just buy a Harley FFS).

I'd not hesitate to buy a Triumph and I wish the Japanese makers would start to experiment with some different formats - heck if Triumph can make money on lower sales volumes (relative to say a GSXR) then surely the Japanese could put some excitement into the range.

It is beyond be why either of the big 4 Jappers have not given a corporate brown-eye to the Street Triple and released a true naked version of their state of the art litre bikes - plenty of stripped down specials are being made privately, some bikes like the CBR are even extremely clean under the plastic - I think they are 'chicken' and soften them down.

And cruisers - sure the V twin is nice but FFS I have a vision in my head of a dam tasty IL4 power cruiser (with optional factory supercharger of course) that would be a hoot.

Innovation (if you can call it that) in the cruiser department is presently all coming from ironically HD in the form of some very very tasty Sportster variations.

Big Dave
5th December 2010, 12:34
Johnny Reb boots...allways got me home when I rode a shovelhead.

Till I discovered that the Harley brand ones are almost identical and $100 cheaper.

Gremlin
5th December 2010, 12:35
Buy a superduke :yes:

Edbear
5th December 2010, 18:07
Yah we can get that ere in Oz from time to time in the mainstream supermarkets.
They've come a long way from the old peanut slab:woohoo:

Still nothing wrong with the Peanut Slab, either mate! :yes:

I guess it's often down to your first bike. Mine was a BSA B31 so I like BSA's. Second bike was a T500 Suzuki so I like Suzuki's but I've had a Yamaha trail bike and an XS750 Special, both bikes were great!

Not so brand-loyal these days and appreciate the good points of all. :scooter:

fuknKIWI
5th December 2010, 20:29
Still nothing wrong with the Peanut Slab, either mate! :yes:

Nothing at all but now you've got almond & coconut vying for attention:yes:

I just love their DARK chocolate

I was once Levi's or nothing but now it's any but Levi's. I wouldn't wear them if they were free.

As for bikes ha loyalty is a two way street.

Edbear
5th December 2010, 20:38
Nothing at all but now you've got almond & coconut vying for attention:yes:

I just love their DARK chocolate

I was once Levi's or nothing but now it's any but Levi's. I wouldn't wear them if they were free.

As for bikes ha loyalty is a two way street.

Anybody who loves Whittaker's can't be all bad! :yes: Got any pics of the HD?

DMNTD
5th December 2010, 20:48
Buy a superduke :yes:

+9879876098576049860498709687059678059687095687059 687 or more :woohoo:

98tls
5th December 2010, 20:52
Nothing at all but now you've got almond & coconut vying for attention:yes:

I just love their DARK chocolate

I was once Levi's or nothing but now it's any but Levi's. I wouldn't wear them if they were free.

As for bikes ha loyalty is a two way street.

:shit:Reminded me of the last time i bought a pair of Levis,early 90s and remember it well as was riding the biggest piece of shit the gods of motorcycling ever conspired to build then stick a flash brand name on being a 90 900SS duc,never again have i bothered buying anything based on brand.

DMNTD
5th December 2010, 20:54
Have been and always will be a Kawasaki boy simply because I saw Mad Max1 when I was a small lad and ever since I have been 100% loyal to Kawasaki ....except when I've owned Ducati,Yamaha,KTM,Suzuki,Aprilia and MV Agusta :facepalm:
Currently own 2x Kawasaki and 2x Yamaha...and sell Hondas (for now)

wysper
6th December 2010, 08:39
Not for bikes - emotive things and the physical appeal is part of the buying process for me so I go with what feels right, fits the bill and I can afford.



Now I did go on to read the rest of your post but this sentence pretty much nails it.


Till I discovered that the Harley brand ones are almost identical and $100 cheaper.

Fark - how often would that be the case?


Have been and always will be a Kawasaki boy simply because I saw Mad Max1 when I was a small lad and ever since I have been 100% loyal to Kawasaki ....except when I've owned Ducati,Yamaha,KTM,Suzuki,Aprilia and MV Agusta :facepalm:
Currently own 2x Kawasaki and 2x Yamaha...and sell Hondas (for now)

Jezz you are a funny bastard DMTND!