Pro-twins parity question

[White trash]

Now, I'm going to sound like a real arsehole here but I've wanted to know the answer to a question for a wee while now but not known how to present it, so I'll just ask.

How come one of the most seasoned F3 veterans, on one of the most developed, sorted and powerfull bikes in the field, was getting severly hasseled (and in fact beaten on one occasion) by a couple of "Pro-Twins" spec SVs at Hampton Downs this past weekend?

Bring on the flaming :devil2:

This should be interesting...........

[javawocky]

...also interesting to see Miss Biddle nipping at their heals...

[discodan]

... :corn:

[White trash]

... :corn:

Hey! That's not a response young fella!

[discodan]

Hey! That's not a response young fella!

I don't want to ruin a good thread!

[Shaun]

You only dream of being as Slow/fast as him BUCKO:scooter:

[White trash]

Hmmmmmm, 146 views and no real theory on what could be causing this phenomenon.

I've got an idea.

If another pro-twins class rider asks to swap motors (assuming there's nothing wrong with theirs) for a race, the rider being asked can not decline.

[Robert Taylor]

Now, I'm going to sound like a real arsehole here but I've wanted to know the answer to a question for a wee while now but not known how to present it, so I'll just ask.

How come one of the most seasoned F3 veterans, on one of the most developed, sorted and powerfull bikes in the field, was getting severly hasseled (and in fact beaten on one occasion) by a couple of "Pro-Twins" spec SVs at Hampton Downs this past weekend?

Bring on the flaming :devil2:

This should be interesting...........

As you know I prep the suspension on all 3 bikes in question. With respect to the two Pro Twins bikes we have made a leap in settings ( within the tight class rules! ) as weve been working on them all winter. The two riders in question have on and off been riding all winter as well so are race sharp.
Terry like me is advancing in years 50 plus and has not ridden since the last round of last years Nats, at HD.
He also started the day with an old tyre that had been through rather too many heat cycles and was well past its best, whereas Geoffrey and Daniel had rather fresher rubber fitted. Given that for heat 2 Terry had some race miles under his belt and a fresh rear tyre the natural balance of gap between the two types of bikes was restored, albeit Terry is still getting back up to speed. I think that fairly sums it all up.
A look at My laps for this meeting and the last round of the Nats may also explain that no-one is up to last round of the Nats speed in this class, although I may be wrong.

[FROSTY]

now heres another suggestion. Maybee T man feels that the tri series is just practice. Given that-- Its extremely unlikely he's using his "hot" engine that costs truck loads to build. More likely he's running a mildly warmed over cooking engine
Also HD is a still a new track to him so some fettling and learning still needs to be done.

[Robert Taylor]

Theres another dimension or two to this, as follows;

Scott Moirs bike has the potential to run even closer to the sharp end were it not for woeful suspension. He had refitted his stock shockt and it worked better than the revalved shock done by some figjam kind of guy. If he could get both ends sorted out hed be threatening at the front on especially the tighter tracks.

Glen W didnt show and he may have been a pacesetter.

And then theres the woeful reliability of arguably the fastest F3 bike, Jason Eastons Tigcraft. If you could stop Jason himself working on it ( number 8 wire and shell be right mentality, doesnt work in a modern world ) and de-Italianise it as much as possible hed be impossible to regularly beat.

[gixerracer]

Hmmmmmm, 146 views and no real theory on what could be causing this phenomenon.

I've got an idea.

If another pro-twins class rider asks to swap motors (assuming there's nothing wrong with theirs) for a race, the rider being asked can not decline.

Man you have had some stupi f--kn ideas in your time but I think that takes the cake. Go smoke some more c--k jimmy:yes:

[discodan]

As you know I prep the suspension on all 3 bikes in question. With respect to the two Pro Twins bikes we have made a leap in settings ( within the tight class rules! ) as weve been working on them all winter. The two riders in question have on and off been riding all winter as well so are race sharp.
Terry like me is advancing in years 50 plus and has not ridden since the last round of last years Nats, at HD.
He also started the day with an old tyre that had been through rather too many heat cycles and was well past its best, whereas Geoffrey and Daniel had rather fresher rubber fitted. Given that for heat 2 Terry had some race miles under his belt and a fresh rear tyre the natural balance of gap between the two types of bikes was restored, albeit Terry is still getting back up to speed. I think that fairly sums it all up.
A look at My laps for this meeting and the last round of the Nats may also explain that no-one is up to last round of the Nats speed in this class, although I may be wrong.

What he said.

Robert did a good job of setting up the bike, which meant I could ride with a lot of confidence and Terry was down on the pace he set at the National round there.

[Robert Taylor]

We better slow down the two front running Pro Twins bikes then Dan!

[bones1999]

We better slow down the two front running Pro Twins bikes then Dan!


Lucky I wasn't there Robert.........

[Robert Taylor]

Lucky I wasn't there Robert.........

Exactly! 3 Pro twins daring to go fast at the very front of a F3 type class.

[White trash]

That's fuggin awesome that Swedens finest suspension gives a pro-twins bike the extra horsepower to outdrag an F3 bike to the line! Might have to get me some of that for the GSX so I can outdrag Dukies ZX10 :innocent:

[discodan]

That's fuggin awesome that Swedens finest suspension gives a pro-twins bike the extra horsepower to outdrag an F3 bike to the line! Might have to get me some of that for the GSX so I can outdrag Dukies ZX10 :innocent:

Are you serious? :gob:


Not even if your bike was dripping in Ohlins, his superior reaction times would mean he was half way down the road before your brain had time to register what was going on.

But really now, watch the vid again and tell me Terry's bike was getting 'out-dragged' by anything...

[Shaun]

Are you serious? :gob:


Not even if your bike was dripping in Ohlins, his superior reaction times would mean he was half way down the road before your brain had time to register what was going on.

But really now, watch the vid again and tell me Terry's bike was getting 'out-dragged' by anything...



White Trash is just a snivling kid mate, ignore his digs

[White trash]

Are you serious? :gob:


Not even if your bike was dripping in Ohlins, his superior reaction times would mean he was half way down the road before your brain had time to register what was going on.

But really now, watch the vid again and tell me Terry's bike was getting 'out-dragged' by anything...

Lol. You guys are soooooooo fricken easy to wind up, like shooting fish in a barrel :D


White Trash is just a snivling kid mate, ignore his digs

Snivling kid? That the best you got big fella? Time to work on a "comeback" list like what Craig's got.

No what I am is a "Shit stirrer". Personally, I couldn't give a toss if the reason the P/Twins bikes were up the front because Jorge Lorenzo was the pilot or if the bikes in question had turbos fitted. I don't compete.

What I do think is funny that people get so defensive over it. Take a chill pill and enjoy the show boys.

[Robert Taylor]

Lol. You guys are soooooooo fricken easy to wind up, like shooting fish in a barrel :D



Snivling kid? That the best you got big fella? Time to work on a "comeback" list like what Craig's got.

No what I am is a "Shit stirrer". Personally, I couldn't give a toss if the reason the P/Twins bikes were up the front because Jorge Lorenzo was the pilot or if the bikes in question had turbos fitted. I don't compete.

What I do think is funny that people get so defensive over it. Take a chill pill and enjoy the show boys.

Very often its about opening the throttle sooner and holding it on longer.

Another Kiwibiker pantomine!!!

[White trash]

Another Kiwibiker pantomine!!!

Pantomime.

You're welcome. :D I'm all about the laughs these days Robert, you know that :D

[Robert Taylor]

Pantomime.

You're welcome. :D I'm all about the laughs these days Robert, you know that :D

I do so. You certainly got Craig and Daniel giggling.

[gixerracer]

White Trash is just a snivling kid mate, ignore his digs

+ 1

[FROSTY]

Ohh comeon Jimmy why not just out n out say it rather than beating around the bush.
Jimmy thinks the top couple of PT bikes are cheating.
I'm guessing he thinks their engines are not strictly "factory" or within MNZ rules.
Maybee a bit of barrel shaving here. A thin head gasket there. Maybee a "factory" cam or two. (so its still got the suzuki stamp)
Or he could just be havin a good ol wind up. :innocent:

[Pussy]

That tall South African bloke doesn't know how to turn the throttle the other way... that's why HE is fast......

[codgyoleracer]

That's fuggin awesome that Swedens finest suspension gives a pro-twins bike the extra horsepower to outdrag an F3 bike to the line! Might have to get me some of that for the GSX so I can outdrag Dukies ZX10 :innocent:

Its bloody good that "O" stuff you know, ....Next thing you know with GPS added & "leanangleometer" thingies the rider wont be required at all as he/she will be an impediment to making the bike go fast.
Then we can all get phat, sit on pitwall , drink piss & enjoy the purest form of MOTORCYCLE ONLY racing.
:blink:

[White trash]

Ohh comeon Jimmy why not just out n out say it rather than beating around the bush.
Jimmy thinks the top couple of PT bikes are cheating.
I'm guessing he thinks their engines are not strictly "factory" or within MNZ rules.
Maybee a bit of barrel shaving here. A thin head gasket there. Maybee a "factory" cam or two. (so its still got the suzuki stamp)
Or he could just be havin a good ol wind up. :innocent:

I think no such thing. However there's an old saying that rings particularly true, "Loose lips sink ships". It could be someones downfall very shortly.

[White trash]

Then we can all get phat, sit on pitwall , drink piss & :blink:

I've acheived that stage already. It goes well with my shitstirring.

[codgyoleracer]

As you know I prep the suspension on all 3 bikes in question. With respect to the two Pro Twins bikes we have made a leap in settings ( within the tight class rules! ) as weve been working on them all winter. The two riders in question have on and off been riding all winter as well so are race sharp.
Terry like me is advancing in years 50 plus and has not ridden since the last round of last years Nats, at HD.
He also started the day with an old tyre that had been through rather too many heat cycles and was well past its best, whereas Geoffrey and Daniel had rather fresher rubber fitted. Given that for heat 2 Terry had some race miles under his belt and a fresh rear tyre the natural balance of gap between the two types of bikes was restored, albeit Terry is still getting back up to speed. I think that fairly sums it all up.
A look at My laps for this meeting and the last round of the Nats may also explain that no-one is up to last round of the Nats speed in this class, although I may be wrong.


ooh, - I like that word advancing, it sounds so eminent........

[Mental Trousers]

ooh, - I like that word advancing, it sounds so eminent........

Aren't you past the advancing stage?

[codgyoleracer]

Aren't you past the advancing stage?

No way man, advance em until they pink then back em off a bit.........

What could possibly go wrong.......:shit: