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junkmanjoe
17th December 2010, 22:10
do you think this will affect your riding this xmas. or up coming tours you may have had in mind.. at $2 a liter its starting to get expensive to fill the twin tanks on the 950 ..

JMJ

baptist
17th December 2010, 22:25
I only have a 225 single banger and I still notice the extra cost!!! the wifes car is costing a fortune to fill now as well. Petrol companies are on for another record year for profits.

ducatilover
17th December 2010, 22:48
I filled up for $29 after 270km on my way home the other day and still hadn't hit reserve. At 5.5L/100km I doubt I'll give a tympani phuck. :woohoo: :scooter:

HappyGOriding
17th December 2010, 23:01
do you think this will affect your riding this xmas. or up coming tours you may have had in mind.. at $2 a liter its starting to get expensive to fill the twin tanks on the 950 ..

JMJ

nope dont care what it costs as long as I'm riding

SMOKEU
17th December 2010, 23:07
I'm down to my last $5 so I don't think I'll be riding until I start hustling.

kevfromcoro
18th December 2010, 01:04
Yeah.. its a pain in the arse ... fuel costs....
But really nothing can equal it...
put a few bucks in your bike and away you go.....
so it costs a few exta dollars....
i dont care... just put it in the back of my mind

Gremlin
18th December 2010, 01:06
Around September/October, I racked up a few km, and over two months used almost a grand in gas.

Oh well, pay and move on. Tis my only vice see? :yes:

mrchips
18th December 2010, 04:55
If it was $5 a litre, i still wouldn't give a puk.

In order to support my lust for riding i'd just cut out the insignificant stuff, like..... showers, toilet paper, sex & food. (not necessarily in that order)

YellowDog
18th December 2010, 05:13
The price of fuel is just far too high and also unjustified.

Not a major issue for bike riders, but a huge problem when filling two cars.

swbarnett
18th December 2010, 06:36
do you think this will affect your riding this xmas. or up coming tours you may have had in mind.. at $2 a liter its starting to get expensive to fill the twin tanks on the 950 ..

JMJ
Certainly won't affect me. I've just replaced my air filter and I'm now getting an extra 60km out of a tank. Spending less now on petrol than before the latest round of hikes.

Crazy Steve
18th December 2010, 06:46
If it was $5 a litre, i still wouldn't give a puk.

In order to support my lust for riding i'd just cut out the insignificant stuff, like..... showers, toilet paper, sex & food. (not necessarily in that order)

What a cock, it's comments like this that have over inflated the price to date !

Keep you mouth shout Loser !

Crazy Steve.

I won't be buying into this $2 per liter !! EVER !!!

mrchips
18th December 2010, 07:24
What a cock, it's comments like this that have over inflated the price to date !

Keep you mouth shout Loser !

Crazy Steve.

I won't be buying into this $2 per liter !! EVER !!!

Of course, what was i thinking.

Excuse me while i crawl back under my rock, roll over & then take it up the arse like the rest of the sheep in NZ.

davebullet
18th December 2010, 07:25
My kids just have to eat less.

Big Dave
18th December 2010, 07:32
Nope - fuel price makes no difference to me. Part of why I luff motorbikes.

schrodingers cat
18th December 2010, 07:54
What a cock, it's comments like this that have over inflated the price to date !

Keep you mouth shout Loser !

Crazy Steve.

I won't be buying into this $2 per liter !! EVER !!!

Better sign up to Kiwi WALKER then.

Mind you, I suspect you're halfway to becoming an alterative fuel looney anyhoo

Toaster
18th December 2010, 07:55
Certainly won't affect me. I've just replaced my air filter and I'm now getting an extra 60km out of a tank. Spending less now on petrol than before the latest round of hikes.

Is it a higher performance filter or just a new replacement making that fuel saving?

Voltaire
18th December 2010, 08:03
I remember when gas was a 1$ a litre.....in around 1984....on apprentice wages....now that was expensive.....and the ol' Z1000 was a thirsty beast.

Wait until the recession is over then watch it climb...:gob:

Kickaha
18th December 2010, 08:19
I remember when gas was a 1$ a litre.....in around 1984....on apprentice wages....now that was expensive...

I can remember not to many years after that getting gas on the Coromandel at $1.14 a litre and thinking I was being shafted

$2 a litre isn't a new thing it was about that a few years back

robinm
18th December 2010, 09:13
I remember pulling into a servo in ChCh in 1980 , filling up my almost empty Goldwing and the girl serving me couldn't believe managing to put $10.00 of fuel in to a motorcycle, unheard of, $10 worth of petrol in a motorcycle, what was the world coming to?

boman
18th December 2010, 14:20
do you think this will affect your riding this xmas. or up coming tours you may have had in mind.. at $2 a liter its starting to get expensive to fill the twin tanks on the 950 ..

JMJ

NO. No. And No. I will still ride my bike. And I am still going to Wanganui on X-mas Day.

steve_t
18th December 2010, 14:28
I won't be buying into this $2 per liter !! EVER !!!

:blink::corn::corn:

Owl
18th December 2010, 14:30
I remember when gas was a 1$ a litre.....in around 1984....

Sure about that?:scratch: Considering it was less than 90c in 2000!

AllanB
18th December 2010, 14:34
$106 in the XR6 this afternoon, lucky for me it runs on 91 :facepalm:

YellowDog
18th December 2010, 14:38
When I cam to NZ in Oct 2006, 91 fuel was $1.34 per litre.

Move forward a couple of years when the world oil price went to $140 per barrel and the NZ/US $ was 68c, fuel cost about what it does now.

But the world price for oil is now is < $90 and the NZ/US $ is about 75c.

Someone is making a lot of cash out of this this rip off!

AllanB
18th December 2010, 14:48
When I cam to NZ in Oct 2006, 91 fuel was $1.34 per litre.

Move forward a couple of years when the world oil price went to $140 per barrel and the NZ/US $ was 68c, fuel cost about what it does now.

But the world price for oil is now is < $90 and the NZ/US $ is about 75c.

Someone is making a lot of cash out of this this rip off!

Now look this is not true - I know this as successive goverments have done investigations into this and concluded that it is all good. I mean really, why would governments spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and then bullshit us .........

Somewhere in the Beehive there is an accountant trying to work out how to charge motorcyclists only an extra 20 cents per litre due to being 110% more likely to get a hard-on while riding that your adverage car driver.

Swoop
18th December 2010, 15:11
It could be much worse. You could be filling up a car.:rofl:


I remember when gas was a 1$ a litre.....in around 1984...
Do you remember when the oil companies could NOT charge more than 99cents per litre, simply because their fuel pumps only had two digits?

Just wait until the global recession finishes.:facepalm:

scumdog
18th December 2010, 15:52
What a cock, it's comments like this that have over inflated the price to date !

Keep you mouth shout Loser !

Crazy Steve.

I won't be buying into this $2 per liter !! EVER !!!

Good man!!

Now tell me where I can buy it for 50 cents a gallon.......

scumdog
18th December 2010, 15:55
I can remember not to many years after that getting gas on the Coromandel at $1.14 a litre and thinking I was being shafted

$2 a litre isn't a new thing it was about that a few years back

Cringing at the though of the $$$ going into the F100 tank while going to/from the Beach Hop @ Whangamata next year.:blink:

15mpg for a 3,000+km round trip, you do the maths.

Oh, and it thrives on 98...

Blinkwing
18th December 2010, 16:08
I'm just happy that petrol prices aren't like in Norway.

Fatt Max
18th December 2010, 16:12
my bike runs on pastry crumbs and lard so....yeah.......

Shadowjack
18th December 2010, 16:25
Good man!!

Now tell me where I can buy it for 50 cents a gallon.......

1972-ish?
Oh, you said "where"...sorry.
Shadowjack-Father has a historical invoice from 1972-ish for an oil change - total $2.96

This doesn't help, does it.

Mudfart
18th December 2010, 17:38
someone has to pay for the mega mall in abu dhabi and the "world cl-ASS" resorts in dhubai. I just read the xmas tree in the abu dhabi mall cost 130 million, and was adorned with real jewels blah, blah.
my bike now must be about 38$ to fill, but our truck which is scary thirsty, (Honda CRV 2.0ltr) is over $100. The bike I get 7 trips to work and the truck 8.
hmmm 38 for 7 or 100 for 8?... pity the fat cats put the regos up so high, then knew the petrol rises were coming anyway.
maybe they should take out the faster burning additives from the petrols.

swbarnett
18th December 2010, 18:34
Is it a higher performance filter or just a new replacement making that fuel saving?
Just a replacement. The old one got really dirty and I couldn't wash it as it's paper. Also, I was having extreme trouble locating one for my 1980s bike. Was a shock to me when I replaced it.

sinned
18th December 2010, 18:57
Cringing at the though of the $$$ going into the F100 tank while going to/from the Beach Hop @ Whangamata next year.:blink:

15mpg for a 3,000+km round trip, you do the maths.

Oh, and it thrives on 98...
Sounds like towing it (behind a Toyota) would be cheaper and avoid the inevitable breakdown.

rainman
18th December 2010, 19:22
Just wait until the global recession finishes.:facepalm:

If fuel keeps going up, it ain't gonna finish.

Read the IEA's latest oil outlook. An interesting glimpse of the future, particularly for us in the OECD...

axdout
18th December 2010, 19:22
$2 a litre is the price you pay for living in a first world country like nz. If you dont like it leave. After just spending 3 months in San Antonio, texas paying NZ$1.02L, purchasing cheap food, piss, and electronic goods, I realized how good I have it in NZ. I just couldn't wait to get back so I couldI work 60 hrs a week to generate massive tax so the Laiafi's, the Va'iga's and the pisi's don't have to work and they can drive around in their new subarus and toyota estima's. So while $2L is high, the feeling you get from giving to so many people that are just to lazy to work, well it's worth it..

junkmanjoe
18th December 2010, 22:35
I remember when gas was a 1$ a litre.....in around 1984....on apprentice wages....now that was expensive.....and the ol' Z1000 was a thirsty beast.

Wait until the recession is over then watch it climb...:gob:
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well i can remember when gas was 74c a liter we used to go every where in them days.

warewolf
18th December 2010, 22:52
do you think this will affect your riding this xmas. or up coming tours you may have had in mind.. at $2 a liter its starting to get expensive to fill the twin tanks on the 950 ..Nope. However I will/do pay attention to keeping the beast running right to minimise fuel use.

It's not just fuel, which is about 1/3 of running costs. The price of tyres has jumped up a lot in the last year or two.

scracha
18th December 2010, 23:40
The price of fuel is just far too high and also unjustified.

Call it unjustified if you want. It's simply supply and demand. They can't supply enough fuel and demand will keep increasing....therefore the price will keep rising.

I was $37.70 filling up the TDM today.....and $104 for the CRV yesterday......fuck.

Watch it affect food prices as fertiliser and transportation costs balloon.

jasonu
19th December 2010, 05:46
$2 a litre is the price you pay for living in a first world country like nz. If you dont like it leave. After just spending 3 months in san antonio, texas paying nz$1.02l, purchasing cheap food, piss, and electronic goods, i realized how good i have it in nz. I just couldn't wait to get back so i couldi work 60 hrs a week to generate massive tax so the laiafi's, the va'iga's and the pisi's don't have to work and they can drive around in their new subarus and toyota estima's. So while $2l is high, the feeling you get from giving to so many people that are just to lazy to work, well it's worth it..

well said!!

MarkH
19th December 2010, 12:11
do you think this will affect your riding this xmas. or up coming tours you may have had in mind.

I'm just glad I ditched the car - it used twice as much gas as the scooter despite being a small, light manual car with fuel injection and only 1500cc.

I have been taking it easy on my Auckland commuting and am now getting an average of better than 26 km/litre despite the various traffic lights I stop at to waste gas. The higher the fuel prices the more sorry I feel for those saps in their cars spending 2-3 times as much on fuel as I do. (maybe more if they spend too much time stuck in traffic while I split passed them)

My mate just bought himself a Civic Type R to replace his WRX - now he gets almost 50% more distance from each litre of petrol, still uses over twice as much as me though.

firefighter
19th December 2010, 12:44
Is it a higher performance filter or just a new replacement making that fuel saving?

It sounds a bit exaggerated to me......60kms. I'd believe maybe 30. I realise I could be wrong, but i'd be surprised if a car got that much more mileage out of a full expensive service.

firefighter
19th December 2010, 12:47
$106 in the XR6 this afternoon, lucky for me it runs on 91 :facepalm:


That's not bad, my shitty Vectra takes $95odd to fill. I bet it's not much more fuel efficient. 550kms roughly town driving/commuting. I guess you'd get about 500ish?

Sharry
19th December 2010, 15:08
It could be much worse. You could be filling up a car.:rofl:


Do you remember when the oil companies could NOT charge more than 99cents per litre, simply because their fuel pumps only had two digits?

I'm sure I do, can't remember what it cost a ltr but my first bike only cost $3.00 to fill the tank.
Although I don't agree that the current fuel charges are necessary it won't stop my riding. After bills petrol is the first thing on the budget... got to be cheaper than the therapist I would need if I didn't ride :yes:

Gibbo89
19th December 2010, 15:18
Is Iraq getting oil at the moment? I know they are raped by war etc but when they start extracting fossil fuel (at full capacity) I hope the price drops down significantly.


Fingers crossed...:innocent:

scumdog
19th December 2010, 15:39
That's not bad, my shitty Vectra takes $95odd to fill. I bet it's not much more fuel efficient. 550kms roughly town driving/commuting. I guess you'd get about 500ish?

$157 to top up the Thunderbird a couple of week-end ago.

How much now???:shit::blink:

AD345
19th December 2010, 16:11
Its over $120 just to fill the Honda

Mind you - I do run the gas allll the way down

cheshirecat
19th December 2010, 16:13
About three years ago my trusty Range Rover was off the road over four weeks for some trivial disaster which should have been sorted out on it's production line and I saved $500 in petrol, which I reckoned was a desposit on a bike. Sold the Rangy, kept the bike and never looked back.

Spearfish
19th December 2010, 16:15
Look out for those shopping fuel vouchers, they are good for 100ltrs, the car probably around 50-60ltr jerry can the rest for the bikes.
6 cents isn't much though, but the 20 cents a ltr ones are.

MarkH
19th December 2010, 16:56
Look out for those shopping fuel vouchers, they are good for 100ltrs, the car probably around 50-60ltr jerry can the rest for the bikes.
6 cents isn't much though, but the 20 cents a ltr ones are.

A tip from my mother:
For the really good fuel vouchers when you spend $150 at the supermarket, if you don't need $150 worth of groceries then grab a gift voucher or 2 so you can use them to buy next weeks groceries - then you get the good fuel voucher.

It's hardly worth it for me with my 13.5 litre tank, but if you are filling a car from near empty . . .

Swoop
19th December 2010, 17:22
the price you pay for living in a first world country like nz.
Please. Less of the "1st world" shit.
Our Banana Republic is not 1st world.

pritch
19th December 2010, 17:53
$157 to top up the Thunderbird a couple of week-end ago.


The other day it cost me $7.35 to fill up the SJ50:scooter:. That's a record!

axdout
19th December 2010, 18:03
Please. Less of the "1st world" shit.
Our Banana Republic is not 1st world.

We have running water, I think this is all that's required to claim 1st world status....

tri boy
19th December 2010, 18:19
$157 to top up the Thunderbird a couple of week-end ago.

How much now???:shit::blink:

Pocket knife, bit of garden hose= free gas:innocent:

Conquiztador
19th December 2010, 19:24
do you think this will affect your riding this xmas. or up coming tours you may have had in mind.. at $2 a liter its starting to get expensive to fill the twin tanks on the 950 ..

JMJ

Nope. The K1 takes 4 litres/100k's. Let the Rego go up $1K. Increase WOF to $100. Put petrol up to $5/litre and there will be more space on the roads!

cheshirecat
19th December 2010, 19:44
We have running water, I think this is all that's required to claim 1st world status....
Yeah running damp through the tin roofed house

pete376403
19th December 2010, 20:50
I can remember the owner of a car dealership (Chryslers and Mitsubishis) I worked at confidently stating "people will never pay more than $1 per GALLON". (This back in the mid 70s)
One of the Chargers this place sold had the A84 track pack - 35 gallon tank (159 litres). Would be fun filling that today.

Conquiztador
19th December 2010, 20:56
Mmmmm...my old Audi (that is now sold) had a 80 litre tank. $160/fill...

junkmanjoe
20th December 2010, 19:16
well the price of fuel wont be a problem at the moment for my self,,,the 950 has both carbs out in pieces on the work bench....so thats not going any where in a hurry...

JMJ

swbarnett
20th December 2010, 22:08
It sounds a bit exaggerated to me......60kms. I'd believe maybe 30. I realise I could be wrong, but i'd be surprised if a car got that much more mileage out of a full expensive service.
No exageration. I was skeptical myself. I watched it through several tank loads to be sure (I'm still keeping an eye on it and it's pretty consistent). Used to get about 220km to reserve. Now I get about 280.

Conquiztador
21st December 2010, 09:54
No exageration. I was skeptical myself. I watched it through several tank loads to be sure (I'm still keeping an eye on it and it's pretty consistent). Used to get about 220km to reserve. Now I get about 280.

A dirty aircleaner filter is all that it takes. $30 at Super Cheep.

swbarnett
22nd December 2010, 22:36
A dirty aircleaner filter is all that it takes. $30 at Super Cheep.
I presume you mean airfiler cleaner. Does it work for paper filters?

Conquiztador
22nd December 2010, 22:52
I presume you mean airfiler cleaner. Does it work for paper filters?


Now what did I try to say. Let's try this: Get a new air filter as when they get dirty and clogged up the car/bike will start to use more fuel.

fliplid
23rd December 2010, 05:20
:shit: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4487892/Petrol-firms-squeeze-in-rise-before-holidays:facepalm:
T'is the season to be skint!

swbarnett
23rd December 2010, 05:50
Now what did I try to say. Let's try this: Get a new air filter as when they get dirty and clogged up the car/bike will start to use more fuel.
Yes, so I discovered. I hadn't previously been aware of this and I was finding it hard to source one for my bike. Finally discovered a place or two in the UK that stock them.

steve_t
28th February 2011, 19:52
Bit of a thread dredge - can anyone confirm that BP put the prices of their fuel up 5c today?

How's Crazy Steve getting around these days? :innocent:

trailblazer
28th February 2011, 20:35
can't confirm that but i did hear that the price per barrol of oil had gone up $12 per barrol and that was going to put our price up by 12cents so it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

baptist
28th February 2011, 21:27
I hope not, I know things go up but they are making such huge profits (as are the governments that tax fuel) at a time that people are suffering all over the world... Capitalism sucks at times :rolleyes:

gale_wolf
1st March 2011, 08:29
Capitalism sucks at times :rolleyes:
Not if you're the guy raking in all the cash... sadly I'm not that guy :(

Swoop
1st March 2011, 09:55
Be thankful that the "global recession" is still happening. Once economies fire up again the demand for fuel will increase. Remember at peak price a barrel of oil went up to almost US$150. It is currently somewhere around US$80.

racefactory
1st March 2011, 10:07
If you don't pay rego it works out ok. This has 2 consequent effects:

That you need to pay more attention on the road and drive carefully, therefore a)increasing fuel economy and b)lowering risk of accidents.

I don't pay rego on car and bike and am finding it ok if I take the bike as much as possible. With a ZX6R @ 4.4L/100km it's pretty cheap if you drive carefully and carry speed around corners employing general basic hypermiling technique.

In the larger picture of things though, it will definitely affect us all rather soon. Humans have an insane addiction to oil and as we pass the crest of peak production, we will now not be able to adapt fast enough to it's shortage and extinction.

The choices for me are to either pay the price and enjoy the last of petrol powered supersports bikes right now or to try and adapt as early as possible and find another more feasible substitute form enjoyment.

BMWST?
1st March 2011, 10:25
What a cock, it's comments like this that have over inflated the price to date !

Keep you mouth shout Loser !

Crazy Steve.

I won't be buying into this $2 per liter !! EVER !!!

see you on the footpath then....its gonna get much worse

trailblazer
1st March 2011, 13:01
just checked the cardlink price watch website and 91 is $2.028 and premium is $2.179 at bp and $2.099at shell. so unsure if it has gone up but im sure i paid about that last week when i filled the bike up.

Ocean1
1st March 2011, 14:12
Diesel seems to have rocketed more in the last coupl of years.

The van I use for work took $52 to fill two years ago, yesterday it took $76

Time to re-evaluate work hacks maybe...

trailblazer
1st March 2011, 19:04
it costs us over $100 to fill our honda and $78 to fill out isuzu diesal and we get more milage out of the diesal than the petrol honda so i still think it is a bit cheaper to have a diesal but i may be wrong.

steve_t
1st March 2011, 19:07
Oh yeah, just to confirm that petrol went up 5c today :(

The Everlasting
1st March 2011, 19:07
It's gone up again!! I already spend way too much on gas.

Arrowolf
1st March 2011, 19:32
Regular $ 2.12 today in Queenstown. Thank`s god, my bike doesn`t need the same like my Landcruiser.

Flip
1st March 2011, 19:59
Yep, those bastards at BP went first today and put it up 5c.

Well I guess they have to pay for the spill some how.

Smifffy
1st March 2011, 22:52
If you don't pay rego it works out ok. This has 2 consequent effects:

.edit.

I don't pay rego on car and bike and am finding it ok if I take the bike as much as possible. With a ZX6R @ 4.4L/100km it's pretty cheap if you drive carefully and carry speed around corners employing general basic hypermiling technique.

.edit.



No doubt should you crash either of these vehicles you are prepared to fully fund the cost of any treatment you require?

Naturally you are more than happy with the condition of NZ's roads and see no reason to contribute to roading projects?

gammaguy
2nd March 2011, 01:31
If it was $5 a litre, i still wouldn't give a puk.

In order to support my lust for riding i'd just cut out the insignificant stuff, like..... showers, toilet paper, sex & food. (not necessarily in that order)

just work on getting free sex.....the free toilet paper and shower will come before,the food after.

sorted:niceone:

ttmadness
2nd March 2011, 10:36
I reckon there will be a shitload of bikes on the road soon with this exponential rapid increase of petrol prices.

With supersport bikes getting the same mileage as hybrid cars at a fraction of the purchase cost, I think many people will stumble across this world of enjoyment we here already take pleasure in. A positive consequence for all of us.

trailblazer
2nd March 2011, 11:29
I reckon there will be a shitload of bikes on the road soon with this exponential rapid increase of petrol prices.

With supersport bikes getting the same mileage as hybrid cars at a fraction of the purchase cost, I think many people will stumble across this world of enjoyment we here already take pleasure in. A positive consequence for all of us.

That may just drive the prices up of 600cc bikes. If there is a higher demand people will try and capitalise on the situation.

Smifffy
2nd March 2011, 11:56
Until larger numbers start falling off and hurting themselves, at which point the rest of us will be regulated off the road, for our own good.

The Everlasting
2nd March 2011, 20:27
$2.22 for a litre of BP 98!! :shit:

SPman
2nd March 2011, 20:44
$1.50 on average here - and I thought that was bad!

Blackshear
2nd March 2011, 20:48
I may have a shit job with shit pay, sweet FA in terms of socializing, etc etc
BUT AT LEAST MY SEX LIFE IS FANTASTIC, I LOVE GETTING A DICK SHOVED UP MY ASSHOLE EVERY TIME I GET FILLED.

/rant

It seems to just increase in price with no actual real reason.

steve_t
2nd March 2011, 20:48
$1.50 on average here - and I thought that was bad!

Are u in Astraya?

scumdog
3rd March 2011, 19:32
It seems to just increase in price with no actual real reason.

no, they always give a reason - mostly a pathetic bull-shit one but it's a reason...:rolleyes:

trailblazer
3rd March 2011, 21:26
time to start hi jacking petrol tankers anyone.

BMWST?
3rd March 2011, 21:40
i am afraid this is just the beginning :(

trailblazer
3rd March 2011, 22:09
sadly I no it won't surprise me if we are paying $2.50p/l befroe the middle of the year. :eek5:

superman
3rd March 2011, 22:13
Come on hybrid bikes! Become more mainstream!!!

Quasievil
4th March 2011, 06:41
you should be directing your issues to the government that has high levies within the pricing, if you take them out the price is very reasonable, considering the effort that goes into making the damn stuff.
:msn-wink:

Bassmatt
4th March 2011, 06:45
you should be directing your issues to the government that has high levies within the pricing, if you take them out the price is very reasonable, considering the effort that goes into making the damn stuff.
:msn-wink:

Yep take all the levies off fuel ,increase corporate tax and the top tax rate to make up for it.:msn-wink:

Quasievil
4th March 2011, 06:50
Yep take all the levies off fuel ,increase corporate tax and the top tax rate to make up for it.:msn-wink:

Really? why not reduce the gravy train on the social welfare and reduce government spending to make up for it.

Bassmatt
4th March 2011, 07:09
Really? why not reduce the gravy train on the social welfare and reduce government spending to make up for it.

Depends what sort of society you want to live in I guess. I dont think the banks are really gonna miss billion or two off their massive profits.

Ocean1
4th March 2011, 07:55
Depends what sort of society you want to live in I guess. I dont think the banks are really gonna miss billion or two off their massive profits.

Banks? Is that where you think the cash comes from to pay for the life-challenged?

Quasievil
4th March 2011, 08:01
Banks? Is that where you think the cash comes from to pay for the life-challenged?

last time I heard we the tax payer pay for the life challenged.
Im never one that promotes more tax personally, reduction of it is what Im talking about, guess some people like the idea of being cradled by the dumerment

MarkH
4th March 2011, 09:05
you should be directing your issues to the government that has high levies within the pricing, if you take them out the price is very reasonable, considering the effort that goes into making the damn stuff.
:msn-wink:

But a high price for petrol encourages people to use less (more economical vehicle, reduce unnecessary travel, use public transport, etc) as well as making alternative fuelled vehicles more viable. The Government shouldn't necessarily want or need to reduce the cost of petrol.

I would like to see all the road tax collected from petrol sales used to cover the cost of roads though!

Ocean1
4th March 2011, 11:41
I would like to see all the road tax collected from petrol sales used to cover the cost of roads though!

They tried that. Way too transparent, the great unwashed started to ask impertinent questions about the quality of roading purchased by such a monolithic wad of cash.

Nowadays it mostly goes into the decently cloaked consolidated fund where nobody has to explain fuck all.

scumdog
4th March 2011, 18:47
At present day prices and getting 15mpg on 95 octane how many dollar from Dunedin to Whangamata (Beach Hop) and back??

superman
4th March 2011, 18:58
At present day prices and getting 15mpg on 95 octane how many dollar from Dunedin to Whangamata (Beach Hop) and back??

$937? :niceone:

15mpg? What does that a tractor?

scumdog
4th March 2011, 19:00
$937? :niceone:

15mpg? What does that a tractor?

Nah, my modified 429 Ford V8 powered '55 F100 pick-up truck.

Streamlined as a brick.:doh:

superman
4th March 2011, 19:02
Nah, my modified 429 Ford V8 powered '55 F100 pick-up truck.

Streamlined as a brick.:doh:

Can't wait to get my first V8! Before the greenies outlaw em that is :msn-wink:

Latte
4th March 2011, 19:25
Nah, my modified 429 Ford V8 powered '55 F100 pick-up truck.

Streamlined as a brick.:doh:

Worth every penny :D

Pictures Mr ?

scumdog
4th March 2011, 19:27
Worth every penny :D

Pictures Mr ?

Can't do at the mo.

But 98TLS posted a pic or two of it near the end of October.

ducatilover
5th March 2011, 08:57
Can't wait to get my first V8! Before the greenies outlaw em that is :msn-wink:
Do it mate, they're well worth it!

Nah, my modified 429 Ford V8 powered '55 F100 pick-up truck.

Streamlined as a brick.:doh:

Swap for some shit bikes?