Awesome day at AMCC track day & attempt by cop to ruin our day on the way there

[miloking]

What a awesome day, first time at AMCC track day (havent been to any since kiwitrack days ceased to exist) ...great bunch of people and big thanks to instructor Nick for setting up my ohlins shock & front end properly and giving us heaps of great advice on taking hair pin properly and stuff!

But none the less awesome day got nearly ruined by over zelaous police officer first thing in a morning.... i must say the BLITZ/Discimination on motorcyclists is deffinitely happening.

This morning i was licence/rego checked while waiting at gas station for my mate(while not even sitting on a bike & keys in a pocket! WTF!) and my mate got his $630 worth of bullshit tickets at the same time...(rego and incorrectly mounted plate and allegedly doing 99km/h on a motorway in temporary 70k)
So yes thank you mr." undercover north shore highway patrol" for nice attempt to ruin my day and ruining my mates sunday....next time i wont be as nice as i was ( i still mean what i said when i said that you are just collecting money for ACC), and you can also drop that "have i ever talked to you before because you look familiar" rutine... you are not doing yourself any favours and not realy suprised most people hate police as much as i do!

[Pixie]

Ask the fucker if they get paid separately by ACC for levy collection duties.

[Spuds1234]

That fact that he checked you doesnt seem quite right.

But was your mate speeding in a temporary 70km zone and is his plate mounted improperly?

If the answer is yes then why are you complaining about it?

[Gremlin]

If the answer is yes then why are you complaining about it?
coz its just toooootally wrongggg maaaaaan

The rules are very obscure too :wait:

[Big Dave]

....next time i wont be as nice as i was

Go ahead. Make his day.

[roogazza]

What a awesome day, first time at AMCC track day (havent been to any since kiwitrack days ceased to exist) ...great bunch of people and big thanks to instructor Nick for setting up my ohlins shock & front end properly and giving us heaps of great advice on taking hair pin properly and stuff!

But none the less awesome day got nearly ruined by over zelaous police officer first thing in a morning.... i must say the BLITZ/Discimination on motorcyclists is deffinitely happening.

This morning i was licence/rego checked while waiting at gas station for my mate(while not even sitting on a bike & keys in a pocket! WTF!) and my mate got his $630 worth of bullshit tickets at the same time...(rego and incorrectly mounted plate and allegedly doing 99km/h on a motorway in temporary 70k)
So yes thank you mr." undercover north shore highway patrol" for nice attempt to ruin my day and ruining my mates sunday....next time i wont be as nice as i was ( i still mean what i said when i said that you are just collecting money for ACC), and you can also drop that "have i ever talked to you before because you look familiar" rutine... you are not doing yourself any favours and not realy suprised most people hate police as much as i do!

Doesn't it show in your profile, Reg on hold, no money for ACC ? or has that changed ? So pinged ?

[Littleman]

Go ahead. Make his day.

Milo has form for being a keyboard warrior.

This thread is just another example.

And I suspect it did ruin his day.

[miloking]

That fact that he checked you doesnt seem quite right.

But was your mate speeding in a temporary 70km zone and is his plate mounted improperly?

If the answer is yes then why are you complaining about it?

Answer actualy isnt yes to either but thats another matter...no radar read out, cop pulled over on the side of the road "guestimated" 99km/h of a bike riding pass...i heard it from his own mouth, what a douche! When mate pointed our why he didnt pull over a car that was overtaking him on the inside, cop said that "bike got his attention" so that pretty much sums it up...
And plate was mounted same as mine is just at more slanted angle... but still clearly visible. (yet legislation says nothing about angle..just "upright")


Doesn't it show in your profile, Reg on hold, no money for ACC ? or has that changed ? So pinged ?

Yes it does show that, i need to change that...i got 3 months worth of rego on wednesday to get me thru summer. Loved the look on his face when he couldnt fine me for anything this one time...but he still managed to give me shit for the fact that my licence says that i should be wearing glasses and iam clearly not wearing any...while fucking standing next to my bike at gas station!

[miloking]

Milo has form for being a keyboard warrior.

This thread is just another example.

And I suspect it did ruin his day.

Just seeing a cop walking/breathing/living happily ruins my day...

[miloking]

coz its just toooootally wrongggg maaaaaan

The rules are very obscure too :wait:

Whats with the extra letters? either your keyboard is fucked or you are jamaican?

[racefactory]

i don't believe there is a blitz on bikers... not around auckland anyway. There was around central district not long ago though.

Only those who don't look out for undercover cop cars (easy to spot) and those who act like idiots and speed on the maiin roads are the ones who will be suffering.

I have ridden without rego for nearly 2 years now and have never been caught by the pigs.

The rules are simple- choose your roads to have fun on.

btw, was it the ginga cunt?

[rickstv]

btw, was it the ginga cunt?

Havn't seen or heard from him for quite a while.

Is he still patrolling Hazard County?

[BoristheBiter]

What a awesome day, first time at AMCC track day (havent been to any since kiwitrack days ceased to exist) ...great bunch of people and big thanks to instructor Nick for setting up my ohlins shock & front end properly and giving us heaps of great advice on taking hair pin properly and stuff!

But none the less awesome day got nearly ruined by over zelaous police officer first thing in a morning.... i must say the BLITZ/Discimination on motorcyclists is deffinitely happening.

This morning i was licence/rego checked while waiting at gas station for my mate(while not even sitting on a bike & keys in a pocket! WTF!) and my mate got his $630 worth of bullshit tickets at the same time...(rego and incorrectly mounted plate and allegedly doing 99km/h on a motorway in temporary 70k)
So yes thank you mr." undercover north shore highway patrol" for nice attempt to ruin my day and ruining my mates sunday....next time i wont be as nice as i was ( i still mean what i said when i said that you are just collecting money for ACC), and you can also drop that "have i ever talked to you before because you look familiar" rutine... you are not doing yourself any favours and not realy suprised most people hate police as much as i do!

So did you let him off with a warning??

[Ferkletastic]

So did you let him off with a warning??

So did you? Or did not having a keyboard in front of you make you feel a bit too exposed?

[Toaster]

Milo has form for being a keyboard warrior.

This thread is just another example.

And I suspect it did ruin his day.

It's always someone else's fault for his actions.

[Latte]

So did you let him off with a warning??

:clap: 10 char

[miloking]

It's always someone else's fault for his actions.

What do you mean.."my actions" ? I was sitting inside gas station waiting for mate, see him being pulled over so walked over to see whats going on and got rego/licence checked and shit given for not wearing glasses and you expect me to like "your kind"?

[miloking]

btw, was it the ginga cunt?

Havn't seen or heard from him for quite a while.

Is he still patrolling Hazard County?

Nah wasnt ginga cunt....he got me last time but wasnt him.

[miloking]

So did you? Or did not having a keyboard in front of you make you feel a bit too exposed?

Not at all...iam much more outspoken in a real life. But since i didnt get any tickets you can say ..i did let him off

[bsasuper]

You sound like a broken record milokinky

[nosebleed]

Answer actualy isnt yes to either but thats another matter...no radar read out, cop pulled over on the side of the road "guestimated" 99km/h...

So your mate wasn't on a speed restricted area of the motorway and received an infringement for 99kmh, Really? Contestable much?

What about the rego, Was it current?

[scumdog]

i don't believe there is a blitz on bikers... not around auckland anyway. There was around central district not long ago though.

Only those who don't look out for undercover cop cars (easy to spot) and those who act like idiots and speed on the maiin roads are the ones who will be suffering.

I have ridden without rego for nearly 2 years now and have never been caught by the pigs.



Sadly some people are blessed at birth to become cop-magnets.:weird:

[Big Dave]

I went to the parts store at lunch today, I was only in there for about 5 minutes. When I came out there was a cop beside the motorcycle writing a parking ticket. I said "That badge and gun give you a power trip don't they?", He ignored me and continued writing the ticket. I said, "Were they out of doughnuts this morning at the station". He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having bald tyres! Then I said, "I bet if you stand here long enough you'll hit your quota", so he started writing a third ticket!! This went on for about 6 or 7 minutes, the more I abused him, the more tickets he wrote.

I can only imagine what the owner of that bike will think when he sees all the tickets.

[BoristheBiter]

What do you mean.."my actions" ? I was sitting inside gas station waiting for mate, see him being pulled over so walked over to see whats going on and got rego/licence checked and shit given for not wearing glasses and you expect me to like "your kind"?

So a condition your licence is to wear glasses then?

Sounds more like he let you off.:killingme

next time you might keep your nose out of things that don't concern you but i somehow doubt it.

[Swoop]

So a condition your licence is to wear glasses then?
I wonder if contact lenses were being worn instead?

[Mully]

Awesome story, Bro.

[BoristheBiter]

I wonder if contact lenses were being worn instead?

I'm sure if he had been wearing them he would have been all to quick to point that out and even quicker to tell us so.

[davereid]

So a condition your licence is to wear glasses then?

Sounds more like he let you off.:killingme

next time you might keep your nose out of things that don't concern you but i somehow doubt it.

Given that he was walking, his licence conditions were possibly not particularly relevant.

[Toaster]

What do you mean.."my actions" ? I was sitting inside gas station waiting for mate, see him being pulled over so walked over to see whats going on and got rego/licence checked and shit given for not wearing glasses and you expect me to like "your kind"?

A bit slow to learn aren't you as I told you before I am not a cop so no need to refer to me as one of them. There are mostly good cops out there but yes the odd one will do stupid things that make the rest look bad - just like in any workforce there is always the few bad eggs. However, given the way you seem to ride, it seems the fault and misconduct is more at your end of things rather than them.

Secondly, he (the cop) was entitled to give you shit. You were using a public road and in a public place AND breaching the conditions of your licence for not wearing corrective lenses. He could have fined you for that - so in your own words, he let YOU off.

Your actions and law-breaking on the road are your own responsibility. If you get fined or whatever, it is no-ones fault but your own. Using the roads is a privilege not a right and society don't want idiots on the road. It's not your personal race track.

It's your choice if you want to be one or not. If you keep getting pulled over, its you... not the police that needs to sort your shit out. If you keep riding without regard for the rules then expect to keep up ruining your own day.

[miloking]

I'm sure if he had been wearing them he would have been all to quick to point that out and even quicker to tell us so.


not realy important but just to clarify this:

No Boris i wasnt, but since i was not actualy riding a bike at the time i got licence checked i think it was bit of a cheek from a cop to mention it in a first place...and even when i showed him that glasses were in my back pack he told me i should be wearing them (he couldnt have known if i just took them off etc) i guesss it was just a "friendly" reminder on his behalf...

[miloking]

A bit slow to learn aren't you as I told you before I am not a cop so no need to refer to me as one of them. There are mostly good cops out there but yes the odd one will do stupid things that make the rest look bad - just like in any workforce there is always the few bad eggs. However, given the way you seem to ride, it seems the fault and misconduct is more at your end of things rather than them.

Secondly, he (the cop) was entitled to give you shit. You were using a public road and in a public place AND breaching the conditions of your licence for not wearing corrective lenses. He could have fined you for that - so in your own words, he let YOU off.

Your actions and law-breaking on the road are your own responsibility. If you get fined or whatever, it is no-ones fault but your own. Using the roads is a privilege not a right and society don't want idiots on the road. It's not your personal race track.

It's your choice if you want to be one or not. If you keep getting pulled over, its you... not the police that needs to sort your shit out. If you keep riding without regard for the rules then expect to keep up ruining your own day.

You did tell me that before didnt you...i always forget when i hear you say things like "your actions" and "choose to break law" etc. so my appologies for forgeting and "bagging" you as one of them....

I am still not very clear on what i've done wrong by walking out of gas station to go talk to my mate...so why are you talking about road not being my presonal race track and me keep getting pulled over, as i far as iam concerned that morning i DID NOT break any laws and still got treated like criminal scum and thats why i started this thread... just to point out that i was minding my own business going to track day (so i dont have to speed on public roads) and i still got treated as one of those "bad" motorcyclists that need their wings clipped...

But i guess as you said there are always some bad apples...on both sides

[imdying]

It's not your personal race track.Your time in the force must have fucked your ability to comprehend the printed word.

[Hiflyer]

You did tell me that before didnt you...i always forget when i hear you say things like "your actions" and "choose to break law" etc. so my appologies for forgeting and "bagging" you as one of them....

I am still not very clear on what i've done wrong by walking out of gas station to go talk to my mate...so why are you talking about road not being my presonal race track and me keep getting pulled over, as i far as iam concerned that morning i DID NOT break any laws and still got treated like criminal scum and thats why i started this thread... just to point out that i was minding my own business going to track day (so i dont have to speed on public roads) and i still got treated as one of those "bad" motorcyclists that need their wings clipped...

But i guess as you said there are always some bad apples...on both sides

I think people here can't be bothered reading the whole post you put up, or if they do they already know what they are going to say.

Either that or they can;t read cos you blatantly said you weren't on your bike.
Or maybe there is a new "Walking" licence where it states you must wear glasses....

[Hailwood]

just to point out that i was minding my own business going to track day (so i dont have to speed on public roads) and i still got treated as one of those "bad" motorcyclists that need their wings clipped...

But didnt you say in an earlier post that you went out to see what was happening to your mate? So you werent minding your own business then. I will make an assumption here as well but I bet you said something to the police officer as well..something you thought was clever or witty and guess what, he decided to check you out as well. Not really a surprise then was it. Your mate got a ticket for speeding and for other offences that he had committed..so what? You stuck your oar in and got checked...moral of story...keep your nose out of other people's business and stay inside and you wouldn't have got checked...but it's the cop's fault of course.......:facepalm:

[BoristheBiter]

I think people here can't be bothered reading the whole post you put up, or if they do they already know what they are going to say.

Either that or they can;t read cos you blatantly said you weren't on your bike.
Or maybe there is a new "Wanking" licence where it states you must wear glasses....

There fixed that for you.

[miloking]

just to point out that i was minding my own business going to track day (so i dont have to speed on public roads) and i still got treated as one of those "bad" motorcyclists that need their wings clipped...

But didnt you say in an earlier post that you went out to see what was happening to your mate? So you werent minding your own business then. I will make an assumption here as well but I bet you said something to the police officer as well..something you thought was clever or witty and guess what, he decided to check you out as well. Not really a surprise then was it. Your mate got a ticket for speeding and for other offences that he had committed..so what? You stuck your oar in and got checked...moral of story...keep your nose out of other people's business and stay inside and you wouldn't have got checked...but it's the cop's fault of course.......:facepalm:


Acutaly i didnt say anything witty until he pronounced..."oh by the way i need to talk to you as well" and i have every right to go outside talk to my mate whenever i want to...are you realy saying that I need to cover in fear inside of buildings whenever we see police to make sure they dont run a background check on me and generaly dont give me shit???? police state FTW i guess...

[miloking]

just to point out that i was minding my own business going to track day (so i dont have to speed on public roads) and i still got treated as one of those "bad" motorcyclists that need their wings clipped...

But didnt you say in an earlier post that you went out to see what was happening to your mate? So you werent minding your own business then. I will make an assumption here as well but I bet you said something to the police officer as well..something you thought was clever or witty and guess what, he decided to check you out as well. Not really a surprise then was it. Your mate got a ticket for speeding and for other offences that he had committed..so what? You stuck your oar in and got checked...moral of story...keep your nose out of other people's business and stay inside and you wouldn't have got checked...but it's the cop's fault of course.......:facepalm:


Acutaly i didnt say anything witty until he pronounced..."oh by the way i need to talk to you as well" as i heard comms say my name from the radio on his belt...and i have every right to go outside talk to my mate whenever i want to...are you realy saying that I need to cover in fear inside of buildings whenever i see police to make sure they dont run a backgroud check on me and generaly dont give me shit????

police state FTW i guess...

[Little Miss Trouble]

Did you stop to think before you got all stroppy with him that maybe he was being proactive and making sure he wasn't allowing a bike thief to ride away on a someone elses pride and joy?

[Gremlin]

Did you stop to think before you got all stroppy with him that maybe he was being proactive and making sure he wasn't allowing a bike thief to ride away on a someone elses pride and joy?
:killingme

[Little Miss Trouble]

:killingme

Well maybe I've just been lucky, but two outta three times I've had chats with the police while out riding have been just that, friendly chats - no lectures, or infringements :bleh:

[Grubber]

You did tell me that before didnt you...i always forget when i hear you say things like "your actions" and "choose to break law" etc. so my appologies for forgeting and "bagging" you as one of them....

I am still not very clear on what i've done wrong by walking out of gas station to go talk to my mate...so why are you talking about road not being my presonal race track and me keep getting pulled over, as i far as iam concerned that morning i DID NOT break any laws and still got treated like criminal scum and thats why i started this thread... just to point out that i was minding my own business going to track day (so i dont have to speed on public roads) and i still got treated as one of those "bad" motorcyclists that need their wings clipped...

But i guess as you said there are always some bad apples...on both sides

I am having trouble figuring out exactly what the problem was here. you approached him and he asked for a few of your credentials. Gave you a small amount of advice and no tickets to speak of. Explain to me what the big deal is again????:wait:

[miloking]

I am having trouble figuring out exactly what the problem was here. you approached him and he asked for a few of your credentials. Gave you a small amount of advice and no tickets to speak of. Explain to me what the big deal is again????:wait:

There were no tickets to be given..i had everything up to scratch. So Iam also having trouble figuring out why did i get licence checked, why he had my bike checked and has given "friendly advice" when i wasnt even sitting on a bike in first place...realy no logical reason so all iam saying is auckland cops have hard on for bikers and thats gotta stop! ...at least while there is a south auckland full of p adicts and abused children to be taken care of...

[scumdog]

not realy suprised most people hate police as much as i do!

Big call saying 'most'.


Or maybe you mean that you don't hate cops....:weird:

[scumdog]

I am having trouble figuring out exactly what the problem was here. you approached him and he asked for a few of your credentials. Gave you a small amount of advice and no tickets to speak of. Explain to me what the big deal is again????:wait:


Somebodys attitude??:msn-wink:

[Hiflyer]

You stuck your oar in and got checked...moral of story...keep your nose out of other people's business and stay inside and you wouldn't have got checked...but it's the cop's fault of course.......:facepalm:

Next time someone gets pulled over, we should all hide in a gas station and not come to see what's going on then? ESPECIALLY if it's our friend?

He got in trouble for not wearing his glasses when he wasn't on his bike? How can you get a "warning" for not doing anything wrong


There fixed that for you.

Na it was fine before you stuck your nose in :niceone:

[HenryDorsetCase]

not realy important but just to clarify this:

No Boris i wasnt, but since i was not actualy riding a bike at the time i got licence checked i think it was bit of a cheek from a cop to mention it in a first place...and even when i showed him that glasses were in my back pack he told me i should be wearing them (he couldnt have known if i just took them off etc) i guesss it was just a "friendly" reminder on his behalf...

idiot. you weren t on a bike and fronted the guy and he rego/licence checked you?

your response for next time is "I am a pedestrian orifice, my name is Milo Bilo, my address is.......... and my date of birth is ...............

I am a pedestrian, these are the only details I am required to provide to you as a policemin. I just happen to enjoy dressing this way. And of course I will be wearing my glasses when operating the vehicle, per the licence conditions"

talk about make your own life difficult.

[Owl]

talk about make your own life difficult.

But if I was the cop, I'd lurk until he rode off and then ping him..............just because I could:D

[BoristheBiter]

Na it was fine before you stuck your nose in :niceone:

Thats all right i was just seeing what was going on.:niceone:

[Katman]

I am still not very clear on what i've done wrong by walking out of gas station to go talk to my mate

It's probably not so much that you did anything wrong, it's probably just the fact that you were exuding your usual 'wanker aura' that just begs to have shit painted on it.

[scumdog]

It's probably not so much that you did anything wrong, it's probably just the fact that you were exuding your usual 'wanker aura' that just begs to have shit painted on it.

As I've already said:

'Sadly some people are blessed at birth to become cop-magnets.':doh:

[scracha]

$630 worth of bullshit tickets at the same time...(rego and incorrectly mounted plate and allegedly doing 99km/h on a motorway in temporary 70k)

Ok, you didn't have to give the cop your details etc but since you were the first offenders "mate" then I guess he'd have reasonable grounds to stop you as soon as you jumped on the bike.

Lets clarify, was your mate doing about 100 in the 70? Your statement about why the cop didn't stop the car on the inside would indicate "yes". If so, who's the copper gonna stop? Perhaps the car? Ok, so he checks the rego on his little computer or radio's comms. Car is legal. Checks the bike....no rego. Hmm...and that number plate is kinda pushing it a bit.

So the moral of the story is, if you're gonna ride without a rego, then stick to the speed limit and have a bike that appears legal. I've had run-ins with arsehole cops but I'd question who's being the arsehole in this instance. End of.

[Big Dave]

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/latest/114186789.html

[Gremlin]

Well maybe I've just been lucky, but two outta three times I've had chats with the police while out riding have been just that, friendly chats - no lectures, or infringements :bleh:
I was laughing that you thought he might have thought that... clearly not the case here :lol:

He also doesn't have the advantages you have... the cops probably forget exactly why they pulled you over, and if you even broke the law.

[Grubber]

There were no tickets to be given..i had everything up to scratch. So Iam also having trouble figuring out why did i get licence checked, why he had my bike checked and has given "friendly advice" when i wasnt even sitting on a bike in first place...realy no logical reason so all iam saying is auckland cops have hard on for bikers and thats gotta stop! ...at least while there is a south auckland full of p adicts and abused children to be taken care of...

It's kinda their job if ya hadn't noticed, and for the record, i've been stopped a total of around 5 times in 30 years of riding and had 2 infringements in that time. Both times i just put my hands up and payed the bill. They were right so no point arguing about it. By the way, how do you get on at a road side checkpoint? Do you find this offensive also?


Somebodys attitude??:msn-wink:

Me startin to thinks you are right:msn-wink:


Next time someone gets pulled over, we should all hide in a gas station and not come to see what's going on then? ESPECIALLY if it's our friend?

He got in trouble for not wearing his glasses when he wasn't on his bike? How can you get a "warning" for not doing anything wrong

Na it was fine before you stuck your nose in :niceone:

I don't think he actually got into troubel to be honest. He got some advice as to the wearing of his glasses and that would be about it. Still don't get what the big deal is!


As I've already said:

'Sadly some people are blessed at birth to become cop-magnets.':doh:

Bugger! Gonna have to admit your right again.....hate telling anyone they right...:niceone:

[Hailwood]

Acutaly i didnt say anything witty until he pronounced..."oh by the way i need to talk to you as well" as i heard comms say my name from the radio on his belt...and i have every right to go outside talk to my mate whenever i want to...are you realy saying that I need to cover in fear inside of buildings whenever i see police to make sure they dont run a backgroud check on me and generaly dont give me shit????

police state FTW i guess...

Just wondering if you want some fish...................to go with the chip or chips you clearly have on your shoulder....yes you do have the right to talk to your mate but guess what if he is being spoken to by Police and you decide to go and (using your words) see what was happening, then expect to be asked for your details as well.

[Hailwood]

[QUOTE=Hiflyer;1129961535]Next time someone gets pulled over, we should all hide in a gas station and not come to see what's going on then? ESPECIALLY if it's our friend?

He got in trouble for not wearing his glasses when he wasn't on his bike? How can you get a "warning" for not doing anything wrong

If you want to see what is going on, feel free but then dont whine like a little beearch when you get asked for your details.....

[oneofsix]

[QUOTE=Hiflyer;1129961535]Next time someone gets pulled over, we should all hide in a gas station and not come to see what's going on then? ESPECIALLY if it's our friend?

He got in trouble for not wearing his glasses when he wasn't on his bike? How can you get a "warning" for not doing anything wrong

If you want to see what is going on, feel free but then dont whine like a little beearch when you get asked for your details.....

yeah trust the police, there are no bad eggs there. Oh hold that's not what the report and cases like Arthur Alan Thomas said. So who does police the police if it's not by public pressure. The government wont as long as they act the why the government wants. Respect is a 2 way street and IF he wasn't doing anything wrong by being a pedestrian with out glass then why should he be hassled, unless the cop wants to also be hassled for just being a cop :confused:
:stupid:

[Hiflyer]

[QUOTE=Hiflyer;1129961535]Next time someone gets pulled over, we should all hide in a gas station and not come to see what's going on then? ESPECIALLY if it's our friend?

He got in trouble for not wearing his glasses when he wasn't on his bike? How can you get a "warning" for not doing anything wrong

If you want to see what is going on, feel free but then dont whine like a little beearch when you get asked for your details.....


[QUOTE=Hailwood;1129961986]

yeah trust the police, there are no bad eggs there. Oh hold that's not what the report and cases like Arthur Alan Thomas said. So who does police the police if it's not by public pressure. The government wont as long as they act the why the government wants. Respect is a 2 way street and IF he wasn't doing anything wrong by being a pedestrian with out glass then why should he be hassled, unless the cop wants to also be hassled for just being a cop :confused:
:stupid:

Geez people learn to quote porperly :msn-wink:

[snapperhead]

I got pinged by a camera on the way down on sunday. sun blinded going thru the newmarket bridge carry-on, about 85 in a 70 zone, doh. 1st ticket Ive had with the hayabusa, but its a shame it was on the back of the ute at the time. That was preying on people blinded by morning sun and concentrating on not crashing rather than temporary limits, bad show mr 5 oh.

That was a great plate mount on the bike. very ingenious with the roller bearing. For what its worth, well done sir.

Its a shame that some vehicle laws are subjective on the discretion of the officer.

By the way, if you didnt already know it,

2 wheels = guilty of something

add some skull and crossbones stickers and see how you get on


btw, nice to meet you 2 in the suspension tent

[Ntoxcated]

I got pinged by a camera on the way down on sunday. sun blinded going thru the newmarket bridge carry-on, about 85 in a 70 zone, doh. 1st ticket Ive had with the hayabusa, but its a shame it was on the back of the ute at the time. That was preying on people blinded by morning sun and concentrating on not crashing rather than temporary limits, bad show mr 5 oh.


:doh: I hope it was a rear facing camera 'cos I never saw it. I get quite a few K band alerts around the bus stations so I tend to ignore those on the MW. And now I can't remember if it alerted through there or not.

[miloking]

I got pinged by a camera on the way down on sunday. sun blinded going thru the newmarket bridge carry-on, about 85 in a 70 zone, doh. 1st ticket Ive had with the hayabusa, but its a shame it was on the back of the ute at the time. That was preying on people blinded by morning sun and concentrating on not crashing rather than temporary limits, bad show mr 5 oh.

That was a great plate mount on the bike. very ingenious with the roller bearing. For what its worth, well done sir.

Its a shame that some vehicle laws are subjective on the discretion of the officer.

By the way, if you didnt already know it,

2 wheels = guilty of something

add some skull and crossbones stickers and see how you get on


btw, nice to meet you 2 in the suspension tent

Hey, it was nice to meet you too...nice busa you got there, glad you got the suspenders sorted by the end of the day (also noticed any sign of chicken strips disapeared from your rear tyre :) and that cant be for faint hearted on a busa in pukekohe...

But yeah slowly getting used to the "2 wheels = guilty of something" ...i mean if thats how it is, no point trying to be nice...or trying to obey the "law" too much on those 2 wheels...

BTW lets hope the camera wasnt rear facing and you dont get two tickets...one for the ute and one for the bike (wouldnt be suprised with how those fags operate their extortion racket)...still prefer the camera ticket any day over having to interact with NZs finest and listen to their "helpful advice"...

[miloking]

oh and LOL on those thread tags.......

miloking=four eyes

thats my favorite :D

....i see some of you are still at kindie level, but iam not realy that surprised...

[TOTO]

Whats with the extra letters? either your keyboard is fucked or you are jamaican?

He IS Jamaican !

[BoristheBiter]

He IS Jamaican !

Yep it's JA-MAI-CAN me laugh.

Sorry couldn't help myself.

[Kickaha]

....i see some of you are still at kindie level.

They have to be so they can effectively communicate with you

[Gremlin]

....i see some of you are still at kindie level, but iam not realy that surprised...
People keep telling me I have the mental age of a 5 year old. They are so wrong.

Its about 3.

Howled with laughter at Kickaha above :killingme

[miloking]

They have to be so they can effectively communicate with you
Wow thats so clever...you can say the most retarded shit and then blame it on the intelligence of the person you are talking to. Its like saying "thats you but what am i" realy must be kiwi thing or something..or just kickaha thing :p

[red mermaid]

Thats intelligent driving:
Blinded by Sun
In an area of road work
Exceeding speed limit

And you wonder why the speed camera was there?



I got pinged by a camera on the way down on sunday. sun blinded going thru the newmarket bridge carry-on, about 85 in a 70 zone, doh. 1st ticket Ive had with the hayabusa, but its a shame it was on the back of the ute at the time. That was preying on people blinded by morning sun and concentrating on not crashing rather than temporary limits, bad show mr 5 oh.

That was a great plate mount on the bike. very ingenious with the roller bearing. For what its worth, well done sir.

Its a shame that some vehicle laws are subjective on the discretion of the officer.

By the way, if you didnt already know it,

2 wheels = guilty of something

add some skull and crossbones stickers and see how you get on


btw, nice to meet you 2 in the suspension tent

[Taz]

But did you all blow on the pie?? Very important to blow on the pie.

[Coldrider]

Thats intelligent driving:
Blinded by Sun
In an area of road work
Exceeding speed limit

And you wonder why the speed camera was there?Are you 'dressing yourself for export' for 'bullshit castle' (quote TM), or are you a lonely scuffer with no friends being a pig that that has nothing better to do than act as a school teacher reprimanding motorcyclists that are sharing their experiences with fellow motorcyclists.

[Owl]

Are you 'dressing yourself for export' for 'bullshit castle' (quote TM), or are you a lonely scuffer with no friends being a pig that that has nothing better to do than act as a school teacher reprimanding motorcyclists that are sharing their experiences with fellow motorcyclists.

I'm not a pig, but I have to agree with red mermaid:bleh:

[Coldrider]

I'm not a pig, but I have to agree with red mermaid:bleh:So KB can be used as a forum for police to reprimand or pass judgement on KB members, when we understand by other media that police do not stick to the rules and ethics of their publc community, whether or not the the threads are true or are a fabrication?

[Owl]

So KB can be used as a forum for police to reprimand or pass judgement on KB members

Why not, this is KB after all!

[Gremlin]

I'm not a pig, but I have to agree with red mermaid:bleh:
Crikey mate. People have been killed for less around here, than agreeing with the cops

So KB can be used as a forum for police to reprimand or pass judgement on KB members,
No, he's expressing his view, just like any other member. Just because someone expresses a view does not make it correct, but nor should he/she be prevented from expressing it.

Different viewpoints provide a more balanced view, and can help educate as well.

[Coldrider]

Crikey mate. People have been killed for less around here, than agreeing with the cops

No, he's expressing his view, just like any other member. Just because someone expresses a view does not make it correct, but nor should he/she be prevented from expressing it.

Different viewpoints provide a more balanced view, and can help educate as well.This is not the only thread that his judgement has been passed today.

So if KB memebers want to express a feeling or something is not right on a public forum to share with fellow members so they may learn from it, and the PIGS are condeming those contributors, where do you think we will end up?

[Kickaha]

you can say the most retarded shit and then blame it on the intelligence of the person you are talking

:killingme well if I was talking about you I wouldn't be using the word intelligence anywhere


So KB can be used as a forum for police to reprimand or pass judgement on KB members

I don't see it as any different than forum members using this place to pass judgment on the police

[Coldrider]

I don't see it as any different than forum members using this place to pass judgment on the police
Are you sure, where it is the Police job to judge?
To assess whether a law has been broken, to investigate and bring the alleged defendant before the courts (where the judgement is made), along with the facts both for and against the defendant (they only present one side don't they or what is the point), totally impartial and impersonal. That is the end of their role.
When Police officers are sworn in they gain rights over the average citizen and lose some also.

[Coldrider]

Answer actualy isnt yes to either but thats another matter...no radar read out, cop pulled over on the side of the road "guestimated" 99km/h of a bike riding pass...i heard it from his own mouth, what a douche! When mate pointed our why he didnt pull over a car that was overtaking him on the inside, cop said that "bike got his attention" so that pretty much sums it up...unashamedly stolen from another thread http://www.fastandsafe.co.nz/Pages/Media/RadarEvidence18Feb05.shtm

Police need evidence for speed tickets
18 February 2005
By ANNA CLARIDGE

Motorists who are pinged for speeding by police radar might have a complete defence if the officer taking the reading cannot produce it in court.

The issue has been highlighted after Christchurch man Peter Fiddler was given a ticket for allegedly driving at 113kmh while heading south of Christchurch on December 22 last year.

He disputed his speed at the scene and when he asked the officer to produce evidence from his radar-gun, the "clocked speed" had been wiped.

Fiddler complained to the Police Infringement Bureau, saying there was no evidence he was travelling beyond the speed limit, but the police refused to waive his ticket saying: "There is no legal requirement for you to be shown a readout or even for the readout to be locked".

Fiddler said this week: "I didn't think it was fair and I tried to discuss it with the officer but he didn't want to know. I tried to challenge it ... (but) I weighed up the costs and I just couldn't afford a day off work to go to court and defend it."

Exasperated, Fiddler paid the fine but contacted The Press, concerned at what he claims are unfair police rules.

"They could just make up a speed and write the ticket. It's ridiculous," he said.

Recent decisions show the courts are backing motorists such as Fiddler, waiving fines for those who challenge police unable to provide evidence of speeding.

Christchurch man Bryan McHerron took the matter to court in September last year after police were unable to produce radar evidence at the scene of his ticket.

An officer allegedly clocked McHerron travelling 121kmh in a passing lane near Amberley, but lost the radar record seconds after the incident and was unable to show McHerron any evidence as he wrote out the ticket.

McHerron went to court, admitting he was probably travelling at more than 100kmh, but denied it was 121kmh.

The Rangiora District Court ruled in McHerron's favour, with two Justices of the Peace saying: "This issue for us is whether there has been a burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt regarding the excessive speed ... to cast light or doubt on the actual speed under consideration and in the interests of justice we think it is not unreasonable for the driver to see the actual locked-in radar speed.

"In this instance it was not available and does create an element of doubt to the actual speed for the defendant."

The decision was based on a similar High Court ruling in 1996 when a motorcyclist on the West Coast successfully defended an alleged radar reading of 126kmh after the officer could not produce evidence of the speed quoted on the ticket.

McHerron now claims his ticket was the result of a Government-pushed, revenue-grab which is forcing police to become "quite unethical".

"It borders on harassment what they do. It's a recipe for fraud because at the end of the day, the average person just accepts what the police have said. Motorists have got some rights and I believe the police are taking those rights away."

Canterbury Road Policing manager Derek Erasmus reiterated the police stance, saying an officer did not have to lock a speed in.

"Best practice indicates that we do it because it removes those arguments further down the track but sometimes ... it's not physically possible to lock it in."

An officer may have to act quickly if a driver was coming around a corner and would not have time to lock the speed in, Erasmus said.

"If a person doesn't like it, you can dispute it through the court process. It's no different from the vast majority of police cases disputed in court.

"It comes through to an issue of credibility. At the end of the day (motorists) have the recourse of taking it to court and the evidence is weighed in an independent forum."

A senior police official said complaints over lack of evidence "presupposed police were liars".

"These are sworn officers who gain no benefit from making things up."

A police spokeswoman said police stood by their legal stance and any appeal against a ticket was a decision for the court, not police.

[Kickaha]

Are you sure, where it is the Police job to judge?


It isn't, but on this forum in their capacity as a member they have the same rights as any other member here

[Coldrider]

It isn't, but on this forum in their capacity as a member they have the same rights as any other member hereIs this on Police time or while he is legally discharged from the Queen.
Sorry it is now 'lawfully discharged'

[Kickaha]

Is this on Police time or while he is legally discharged from the Queen.

I think the correct answer is "who gives a shit"

I don't see the fact that a member who is a cop giving someone shit on here is any different than a member who is an electrician/checkout girl/parking attendant etc etc doing the same

[Coldrider]

I think the correct answer is "who gives a shit"

I don't see the fact that a member who is a cop giving someone shit on here is any different than a member who is an electrician/checkout girl/parking attendant etc etc doing the samethat's fine by me if you wanna roll over

[Gremlin]

I don't see it as any different than forum members using this place to pass judgment on the police
I was going to say that...

It isn't, but on this forum in their capacity as a member they have the same rights as any other member here
Was going to say that too. Never agreed with someone so much on here... but it saves typing.

Show me someone who loves their job so much, they want to live and breathe it 24/7/365. We like to be normal people, title and job ignored. Many cops hate not really getting that chance...

[red mermaid]

Thank you to those that supported my comments.

I take the view that as a member of KB I was passing comment on another members driving, just the same as so many other KB members pass judgement on many subjects.

I wonder if there are any road workers on the forum and how they feel about the issue of drivers/riders speeding through road work zones.

[Littleman]

Given the last page of outbursts, I suspect I know who the roadworks speeder is.

[Coldrider]

Bullshot, it is not a KB member that got pinged, it was his mate.

What use is making comments on a matter that his already been dealt with, just stirring anothers road kill.

[Coldrider]

I wonder if there are any road workers on the forum and how they feel about the issue of drivers/riders speeding through road work zones.


Given the last page of outbursts, I suspect I know who the roadworks speeder is.Where do roadworks come into this thread, notebook crossed or something.

Littleman if you have an accusation to make then put up.

[Gremlin]

You don't give up do you? Next you'll be saying no-one should pass judgement on someone elses actions?! Without a balanced view, ie, both sides, you would say, gee, the poor guy was hard done by. Red mermaid raised some extremely valid points that doesn't make him look hard done by at all.

[Gremlin]

Coldrider, the entire Newmarket viaduct has been a construction zone for months. Its somewhat personal for me. I risk my life going through there at 80 indicated in the left lane, almost always the slowest or slowest equal, while cars race past in the adjacent lane. I wish people got pinged even more.

[Coldrider]

I'm a such a loooooong way from Auckland I wouldn't know, though I did see something on TV about a girder or something being shifted very slowly.

The guts of the matter is I am not sticking up for milokings mate, but i do not agree with cop kbers using the site to take second popshots on matters they know nothing about.
Is this story even true and/or accurate.

[Gremlin]

So the guy can't express his own opinion? I'm in IT, perhaps I shouldn't be allowed to either? Given that the cops get more training than the average driver, if anything it would make them more qualified than the average person.

[BoristheBiter]

I'm a such a loooooong way from Auckland I wouldn't know, though I did see something on TV about a girder or something being shifted very slowly.

The guts of the matter is I am not sticking up for milokings mate, but i do not agree with cop kbers using the site to take second popshots on matters they know nothing about.
Is this story even true and/or accurate.

So then if you know nothing about it or the Newmarket viaduct maybe you you refrain from making any statements.

Would make KB a bit boring if you ask me.

[Kickaha]

but i do not agree with cop kbers using the site to take second popshots on matters they know nothing about.



Every other member does, I don't see why they can't

[Coldrider]

Why would anyone want to share their experiences of riding, and point out where they did wrong or got caught out in any fashion from theriding skills, attitude, road conditions, so others may learn, when cops will take cheap popshots at them.

Ah yeah, it is the KB way, so who are the loosers then.

[Coldrider]

So then if you know nothing about it or the Newmarket viaduct maybe you you refrain from making any statements.

Would make KB a bit boring if you ask me.
What part did you not understand?

[BoristheBiter]

What part did you not understand?

No i understand it clearly, you think you should be able to pass judgment on people and other can't because of their job.
Since when does a job title be a condition for posting comments?

[Coldrider]

No i understand it clearly, you think you should be able to pass judgment on people and other can't because of their job.
Since when does a job title be a condition for posting comments?so where is the separation of powers then?

[BoristheBiter]

so where is the separation of powers then?

WTF?

That is either the dumbest post or the worst troll in the history of KB.

and i've made a few.

[Coldrider]

WTF?

That is either the dumbest post or the worst troll in the history of KB.

and i've made a few.no, you said you understood clearly

[red mermaid]

Something I know nothing about?

The OP said that they were traveing at 99km/h in a 70 km/h area; that it was an area of roadworks and the sun was blinding them.

Who really honestly thinks that it a wise way to travel when you have other options?


I'm a such a loooooong way from Auckland I wouldn't know, though I did see something on TV about a girder or something being shifted very slowly.

The guts of the matter is I am not sticking up for milokings mate, but i do not agree with cop kbers using the site to take second popshots on matters they know nothing about.
Is this story even true and/or accurate.

[Coldrider]

Something I know nothing about?

The OP said that they were traveing at 99km/h in a 70 km/h area; that it was an area of roadworks and the sun was blinding them.

Who really honestly thinks that it a wise way to travel when you have other options?How do you know the truth of the internet based story, and if it is true has it not already been dealt with and is before the courts?

[Latte]

How do you know the truth of the internet based story, and if it is true has it not already been dealt with and is before the courts?

Whats that got to do with him expressing his opinion on someone elses posts, it's the whole point of a forum?

[Katman]

Why would anyone want to share their experiences of riding, and point out where they did wrong or got caught out in any fashion from their riding skills, attitude, road conditions, so others may learn, when cops will take cheap popshots at them.



I just wee'd a little.

[Coldrider]

I just wee'd a little.some just dribble.

[miloking]

Something I know nothing about?

The OP said that they were traveing at 99km/h in a 70 km/h area; that it was an area of roadworks and the sun was blinding them.

Who really honestly thinks that it a wise way to travel when you have other options?

Huh? You are joking right? I didnt say any of those things...my mate was riding at 70km/h thru road works and got blamed for 99km/h by cop with no radar readout! I wasnt even riding and there was no sun in nobodys eyes...

Good troll tho...i give you that!

[Katman]

The OP said that they were traveing at 99km/h in a 70 km/h area; that it was an area of roadworks and the sun was blinding them.



I hope you don't make a habit of giving evidence in court.

[nosebleed]

I hope you don't make a habit of giving evidence in court.

Lol. Much more eloquent than I would've put it.

[red mermaid]

For the benefit of the doubters, post #59 below.

To assist some I have highlighted some relevant parts.

As can be read it is very clear although you will see the admitted speed is 85 km/h, so my mistake in regard to 99km/h.

And yes, I do give evidence in Court, I do win in 99% of cases, even when I am charged.



I got pinged by a camera on the way down on sunday. sun blinded going thru the newmarket bridge carry-on, about 85 in a 70 zone, doh. 1st ticket Ive had with the hayabusa, but its a shame it was on the back of the ute at the time. That was preying on people blinded by morning sun and concentrating on not crashing rather than temporary limits, bad show mr 5 oh.

That was a great plate mount on the bike. very ingenious with the roller bearing. For what its worth, well done sir.

Its a shame that some vehicle laws are subjective on the discretion of the officer.

By the way, if you didnt already know it,

2 wheels = guilty of something

add some skull and crossbones stickers and see how you get on


btw, nice to meet you 2 in the suspension tent

[Katman]

For the benefit of the doubters, post #59 below.

To assist some I have highlighted some relevant parts.

As can be read it is very clear although you will see the admitted speed is 85 km/h, so my mistake in regard to 99km/h.

And yes, I do give evidence in Court, I do win in 99% of cases, even when I am charged.

You're really not doing yourself any favours.

[Latte]

For the benefit of the doubters, post #59 below.

To assist some I have highlighted some relevant parts.

As can be read it is very clear although you will see the admitted speed is 85 km/h, so my mistake in regard to 99km/h.

And yes, I do give evidence in Court, I do win in 99% of cases, even when I am charged.

Small issue ...... snapperhead wasn't the op.

[Katman]

For the benefit of the doubters, post #59 below.

To assist some I have highlighted some relevant parts.

As can be read it is very clear although you will see the admitted speed is 85 km/h, so my mistake in regard to 99km/h.

And yes, I do give evidence in Court, I do win in 99% of cases, even when I am charged.

Do you make a habit of making stories up in the witness stand?

Your name isn't Constable Colin Randle Mower by any chance, is it?

[nosebleed]

Awesome. Wheres Sixpackback when you need him?

[Coldrider]

I got pinged by a camera on the way down on sunday. sun blinded going thru the newmarket bridge carry-on, about 85 in a 70 zone, doh. 1st ticket Ive had with the hayabusa, but its a shame it was on the back of the ute at the time.



Answer actualy isnt yes to either but thats another matter...no radar read out, cop pulled over on the side of the road "guestimated" 99km/h of a bike riding pass...i heard it from his own mouth, what a douche! When mate pointed our why he didnt pull over a car that was overtaking him on the inside....
And plate was mounted same as mine is just at more slanted angle... but still clearly visible. (yet legislation says nothing about angle..just "upright")



was not milos mate on a motorcycle and the other a busa on the back of the ute?

[miloking]

was not milos mate on a motorcycle and the other a busa on the back of the ute?

To clarify:

Nope, my mate was riding his red/silver CBR (i ride black the one) as in my original picture in post #1 and he got the "triple" ticket at 7am in downtown auckland... i've met snapperhead (busa) at the track day once we got to pukekohe.
(So snapperheads ticket is unrelated to the ticket mate of mine got on his CBR...yet its similar as its same "roadworks" bullshit orchestrated by council/police to generate more "speeding" revenue so thats where the confusion comes from)

Either way this thread has got little out of hand..... all i wanted to say was i had awesome day at AMCC ART day and wanted to point out how well organized their track days seems to be.

....and while i was at it just to mention that i've come across another arogant ass of a cop and that what i've been saying all this time about good portion of auck cops hating bikers without any good reason seems to be true.

Also that there is definitely some kind of anti-bike blitz going on.
(from mouth of the osifer that morning: "we are clamping down on incorrectly mounted plates on bikes as our cameras cannot read them properly"!)

[BoristheBiter]

To clarify:

Nope, my mate was riding his red/silver CBR (i ride black the one) as in my original picture in post #1 and he got the "triple" ticket at 7am in downtown auckland... i've met snapperhead (busa) at the track day once we got to pukekohe.
(So snapperheads ticket is unrelated to the ticket mate of mine got on his CBR...yet its similar as its same "roadworks" bullshit orchestrated by council/police to generate more "speeding" revenue so thats where the confusion comes from)

Either way this thread has got little out of hand..... all i wanted to say was i had awesome day at AMCC ART day and wanted to point out how well organized their track days seems to be.

....and while i was at it just to mention that i've come across another arogant ass of a cop and that what i've been saying all this time about good portion of auck cops hating bikers without any good reason seems to be true.

Also that there is definitely some kind of anti-bike blitz going on.
(from mouth of the osifer that morning: "we are clamping down on incorrectly mounted plates on bikes as our cameras cannot read them properly"!)

What a load of BS.
If you had wanted to say what a great day you had you would have posted on the ART Day thread like everyone else but you wanted to have your normal "bag the cop" thread.

[miloking]

What a load of BS.
If you had wanted to say what a great day you had you would have posted on the ART Day thread like everyone else but you wanted to have your normal "bag the cop" thread.

Oh iam sorry, next time i will make sure i will keep my cop bashing threads seperated from the other stuff...

[BoristheBiter]

Oh iam sorry, next time i will make sure i will keep my cop bashing threads seperated from the other stuff...

yes please,

Art days are too much fun to spoil.

[Mungatoke Mad]

Go ahead. Make his day. Or as I do head for the nearest Alleyway.