Commission of inquiry into Police conduct

[p.dath]

With all the news coverage, I'm surprised we haven't had much comment on the report into the operation of the Police. Haven't had a chance to read it myself yet, for those keen;

This is the actual report:
http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/resources/ssc_police_coi_report_final.pdf

This is the Police response.
http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/26804.html

[oneofsix]

With all the news coverage, I'm surprised we haven't had much comment on the report into the operation of the Police. Haven't had a chance to read it myself yet, for those keen;

This is the actual report:
http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/resources/ssc_police_coi_report_final.pdf

This is the Police response.
http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/26804.html

I was expecting this to have been discussed yesterday. Just adds more to the downgrading of respect for the Police :crybaby:

[Smifffy]

First lines of their response:


Police acknowledge the need for traction around culture changes within the underlying context of a healthy organisation, the Deputy Commissioner of Police, Viv Rickard, said today.

I wonder if they should be charged with sustained of traction?

Goddamned corporate PC weasel words! Is nobody able to release a press statement in English anymore?

[MisterD]

So Rob Pope has responded by chucking his toys and retiring so (paging Skyryder) what are the odds on the Scott Watson case being reopened?

[Banditbandit]

With all the news coverage, I'm surprised we haven't had much comment on the report into the operation of the Police. Haven't had a chance to read it myself yet, for those keen;

This is the actual report:
http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/resources/ssc_police_coi_report_final.pdf

This is the Police response.
http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/26804.html

So what ??? You want us to read it then tell you what it says and what to think about it ???

Naaa .. read it yourself ...

[Pixie]

If you want an example of ineptitude being promoted "out of the way" you need to look no further than Howard broad or the Heads of Road policing,past and present.

[Coldrider]

The process of appointing the next Commissioner looks like it's going to get interesting too.

[Mully]

So Rob Pope has responded by chucking his toys and retiring so (paging Skyryder) what are the odds on the Scott Watson case being reopened?

Subsequent reports say that he was told not to bother re-applying.


The process of appointing the next Commissioner looks like it's going to get interesting too.

Indeed it will. I should throw my hat in the ring. heh.

[Coldrider]

Subsequent reports say that he was told not to bother re-applying.



Indeed it will. I should throw my hat in the ring. heh.yes you could, you would be in the highest tax bracket though.

I was alluring to the process of appointment not necessarily fitting who someone wants, who isn't in a position choose, under our legal system.

[98tls]

I was expecting this to have been discussed yesterday. Just adds more to the downgrading of respect for the Police :crybaby:

Considering the society they have to Poilice they still get mine,much of there time is spent dealing with the ever growing numbers of absolute scum many of who would actually benefit from a good bashing.Spend a few days in 111 call center and you will fully realize how low our little society has got.Hat of to the coppers in general im fucked if i could put up with that shit day in day out.

[Coldrider]

Considering the society they have to Poilice they still get mine,much of there time is spent dealing with the ever growing numbers of absolute scum many of who would actually benefit from a good bashing.Spend a few days in 111 call center and you will fully realize how low our little society has got.Hat of to the coppers in general im fucked if i could put up with that shit day in day out.When they have to invest in the job up front I don't think they would be naive to know what they are in for.

[Scouse]

Considering the society they have to Poilice they still get mine,much of there time is spent dealing with the ever growing numbers of absolute scum many of who would actually benefit from a good bashing.Spend a few days in 111 call center and you will fully realize how low our little society has got.Hat of to the coppers in general im fucked if i could put up with that shit day in day out.Exactly the Police need to be able to operate without every wanker and his dog screaming Police brutality or "they caused that kid to crash and burn becauses they chased him" its a wonder anyone wants to do the job these days. NZ has turned into a mamby pamby over pc-ized country. people stop ham stringing the cops.

[98tls]

Exactly the Police need to be able to operate without every wanker and his dog screaming Police brutality or "they caused that kid to crash and burn becauses they chased him" its a wonder anyone wants to do the job these days. NZ has turned into a mamby pamby over pc-ized country. people stop ham stringing the cops.

Thats because theres an army of otherwise unemployable do gooders out there sucking up our hard earned.There used to be a saying New Zealands just a little England with all the pc crap,i reckon we have surpassed even England with the pandering to shitheads thing.

[meteor]

i reckon we have surpassed even England with the pandering to shitheads thing.

You're not wrong there, but shit heads are working at all different levels from the zealot at the IPCA to the system savy legal aid lawyers to the rat bag gang bangers who know the systems and how to play them. I spoke to an ex UK cop not long ago who said the place they had to be most PC was in their own meal and locker rooms as there were 'spies' both personal and electronic waiting to report anything and everything. There was no safe haven for the poor buggers to get the stress off their chest. Hope here in godzone we're not that bad.... yet!

[pete376403]

Police could regain a lot of the respect they used to enjoy if they went after the real criminals with the same zealotry they apply to road policing. I do understand that the directive for the emphasis on road policing comes from the top, possibly because the revenue potential of road work, where pure criminal investigation is all cost, no profit.

[SMOKEU]

Do a burnout somewhere in the countryside and you'll get treated like more of a criminal than if you go and smack someone over. It's no wonder people don't have any respect for the police these days.

[98tls]

Do a burnout somewhere in the countryside and you'll get treated like more of a criminal than if you go and smack someone over. It's no wonder people don't have any respect for the police these days.

Or read as "no wonder the police have no respect for people these days".:sleep:

[98tls]

Police could regain a lot of the respect they used to enjoy if they went after the real criminals with the same zealotry they apply to road policing. I do understand that the directive for the emphasis on road policing comes from the top, possibly because the revenue potential of road work, where pure criminal investigation is all cost, no profit.

Explain this "real criminal" thing you and likeminded keep banging on about.

[racefactory]

Yes the fanaticism towards traffic policing is undue I feel- but I would not know what it is like firsthand anywhere else apart from Asian countries that can not compare. What is it like in UK and AUS?

[racefactory]

Do a burnout somewhere in the countryside and you'll get treated like more of a criminal than if you go and smack someone over. It's no wonder people don't have any respect for the police these days.

You love your burnouts don't you? Haha

[SMOKEU]

You love your burnouts don't you? Haha

Phucking oath I do! The smell of tyre smoke is addictive.

[Kickaha]

Police could regain a lot of the respect they used to enjoy if they went after the real criminals with the same zealotry they apply to road policing..

How do you know that they don't?

[Skyryder]

So Rob Pope has responded by chucking his toys and retiring so (paging Skyryder) what are the odds on the Scott Watson case being reopened?

I have always been of the opinion that Watson's innocence will be questioned further once Pope has gone. There seems to be two issues. The shoddy gathering of evidence against Watson and the presentation of this evidence in court.

I think it will take a whistle blower from Popes team to kick start this. The legal side will be much more difficult as established reputations are more difficult to dislodge.

Still with Pope retired it's a step in the right direction.