I'm not a fan of rugby...

[thehollowmen]

I'm not a fan of rugby, as a game it is great but the whole social drinking, roughhousing that goes along with it keeps causing me grief.

Anyways, I went out with my wife to a light drinkies, hidden and away from any parties and the game tonight, or so we thought. We live fairly close to Carisbrook so... well we thought we'd escape.

Long story short, some time during the night someone from a party up the raod picked up my bike and threw it down the hill.
I had a disk lock too for extra protection.

and I'd picked up the bike on wednesday.

Brand new red DL650, 440 km on the clock because I've been so busy.

I'm gutted.
The cops don't think they'll get anywhere with this.
But thanks for the help guys, if you read this.

[Zed]

Long story short, some time during the night someone from a party up the raod picked up my bike and threw it down the hill.
I had a disk lock too for extra protection.

and I'd picked up the bike on wednesday.

Brand new red DL650, 440 km on the clock because I've been so busy.

I'm gutted.
The cops don't think they'll get anywhere with this.That sucks the kumara BIG TIME man!!! I'd be completely outraged if this pointless violation of my property happened. :mad: Sorry to hear it and I hope you get some compensation somehow?

You can connect it to the rugby if you wish, but complete losers like the guy/s who trashed your bike don't seem to need any reason for creating such random havoc!

"First the man takes a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes the man." Japanese Proverb

[Firefight]

I'm gutted.
The cops don't think they'll get anywhere with this.
But thanks for the help guys, if you read this.



Gutted would not describe it had it happened to me, a sad reflection of the lack of respect shown by some to the property of others.

sadly these sort of stories are all to common.

Feel for you man.


F/F

[scumdog]

Sheeeit!! Real bummer dude!! I'd be white with rage if it happened to me!!!

Did they fingerprint the bike? hope they did 'cos there's always that chance the mental midget with the needle-dick that did that has some 'history'.

[Virago]

Aw man, that sucks big time. How bad is the damage? :mad:

I appreciate your sentiments about the rugby. In Dunedin there is an appreciable minority who use a big game for an excuse to go balistic. Sadly, it's mainly student based, but at least that usually keeps the mayhem to the north end of town. Not in this case though, I take it you're on the hill above the 'brook?

[Dafe]

Sorry to hear dude that your another victim of mindless destruction.
I don't think rugby is to blame though. It's more to do with selfish and uneducated individuals who have no consideration for other people.
Unfortunately our society seems to be harvesting more and more of these types of people. Rather than blaming rugby, I would be thinking its a result of poor family upbringing and possibly a lowered drinking age.
But then again - I may be a little biased, as I live for rugby.... and biking!

[StoneChucker]

If it was a student type, I hope they fingerprinted the bike and got some prints. Even better would be if the student type gets done for drink driving, the two get matched up and he/she gets something "nice" to put on thier CV for future employment (or lack there of).

If it was some random social degenerate, all I can say is in certain countries if they were found doing that, they would have been SHOT! And, is that so bloody wrong?

This countries mentality (in this regard) is going to the dump. Rugby has got some point in it. In that 90% of people here, from what I can see, held rugby up on some stupid pedastil, letting it take over anything else. NZ has put way too much emphasis on the stupid sport, and the associated behaviour that goes with it (drinking in a group of other drinkers). It ties hand in hand with Quasi's recent thread about violence. It's just getting worse. For a certain reason I won't go into, I don't feel safe coming home every night. Is that fair? I bet the person causing it doesn't give a shit. Because it's ok to get drunk, drugged and walk/drive around causing shit with RESPECTABLE citizens. Hell, I heard on tv the other night some find it quite macho, no wait - a better NZ word, STAUNCH, to walk around in groups and beat the living shit out of individuals that happen to make eye contact (more lovely NZ slang here, "Step you out" or "do you wanna go"). Do you have any idea how ignorant and uncivilised these "people" are coming across as to the rest of the world. It won't be long before we're as bad as all the other violent countries.

I actually don't give a fuck. The chances of me having children are slight. So, like I have for 24 years, I'll just continue to stay out of trouble as best I can (by having to give in and not go to places where there is likely to be trouble) and by choosing not to be staunch and step anyone out if they look at me, and just walk away (or drive fast as the case was) if someone thinks I am looking at them. I like how we are so "free" in NZ.

I figure if I can do this for say 60 years (quite possible), then it won't matter anymore and the rest of the country (now being run by the current youth :clap: ) can do what ever the fuck they like.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[SuperDave]

Gutted to hear that man, hope it all gets sorted out. Had a similar incident this weekend assossciated with unwarrented violence - this kinda shit just makes me sick, these people deserve whatever comes back at them.

[Beemer]

That would be one of the most senseless acts of vandalism I've heard of in a long while. Bet you wish you knew the karate guy from PN who posted the details of the tosser who threw a brick through his window on a website!

Was it outside your house or where you had gone for the night? That is so bad, you'd think that even if people were drunk, they'd have a little respect for other people's property.

And I agree with you Stonechucker, rugby is held up as the be-all and end-all in NZ and I get really pissed off - for christ's sake, it's a BLOODY BALL GAME!!! The All Blacks are celebrities, their partners semi-celebrities, and they get paid shit loads to PLAY BALL FOR A LIVING!!! I personally hate rugby, motorsport is far more interesting to watch!

Whether these pathetic morons were rugby fans or not is debatable though, unfortunately this is the kind of thing that happens in any student town on a Saturday night. And it's starting to spread everywhere - we went to Lower Hutt last night to watch the fireworks at Petone (brilliant!) and when we stopped off for petrol when we got back to Levin (about 10.30pm) there were these three young kids no older than 12 wandering along the road. I know for a fact more than my hide would have been tanned if I'd been out wandering the streets when I was that age! As my husband said, their parents were probably at the pub and wouldn't give a damn.

Hope they catch the tosser - but then a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket won't do much to turn him into a socially responsible person!

[onearmedbandit]

Violated dude, that's how I would feel. I hate sharing my oxygen with people like this.

[Jackrat]

Really feel for ya' mate.
I'd be to pissed for words if that happened to me baby.
Best of luck with fixing it up an all.

[WINJA]

SAD HOPE THE BIKE IS NOT TOO DAMAGED

[Ixion]

..

You can connect it to the rugby if you wish, but complete losers like the guy/s who trashed your bike don't seem to need any reason for creating such random havoc!
..

True, but is it the rugby culture that validates their attitude and actions.

I actually believe that rugby should be banned.

I cannot see why people should be alowed to do on a sports field that which would send them to prison for several years off the field.

But i never understood rugby, it seems just an excuse for thuggery. :mad:

Real sorry to hear about your bike mate, I hope the damage wasnt too bad. And insured I hope ? Though that's still a bummer and a big expense what with excesses and loss of bonus etc.

[zadok]

Sorry to hear that, Col. I dislike any sort of vandalism, graffiti etc. :oi-grr: The mentallity of some people is amazing!

[sAsLEX]

See my thread Local Legend for a dude in a similar situation, cept he caught the guy red handed...


hope insurance works out for or th damage aint to great

[pritch]

I cannot see why people should be alowed to do on a sports field that which would send them to prison for several years off the field.
But i never understood rugby, it seems just an excuse for thuggery.

In Britain (less relevent here, but not completely irrelevant) they have a saying:

Soccer is a gentlemans game played by hooligans
Rugby is a hooligans game played by gentlemen
Rugby League is a hooligans game played by hooligans

And to the owner of the DR my sypathies, I know how pissed off I would be...

[Biff]

Sorry to hear about this mate. But I'm with others here, don't fall into the trap of blaming rugby for this incident. Some mindless pricks did this damage, damage they may have committed had rugby never been invented.

I love rugby. I drink beer, I don't go around commiting mindless damage just because of this, and neither do any of my mates that also partake in a few beers and enjoying rugby.

[zadok]

In Britain (less relevent here, but not completely irrelevant) they have a saying:

Soccer is a gentlemans game played by hooligans
Rugby is a hooligans game played by gentlemen
Rugby League is a hooligans game played by hooligans

Never heard that one before, but I like it.

[Pixie]

I'm not a fan of rugby, as a game it is great but the whole social drinking, roughhousing that goes along with it keeps causing me grief.

Anyways, I went out with my wife to a light drinkies, hidden and away from any parties and the game tonight, or so we thought. We live fairly close to Carisbrook so... well we thought we'd escape.

Long story short, some time during the night someone from a party up the raod picked up my bike and threw it down the hill.
I had a disk lock too for extra protection.

and I'd picked up the bike on wednesday.

Brand new red DL650, 440 km on the clock because I've been so busy.

I'm gutted.
The cops don't think they'll get anywhere with this.
But thanks for the help guys, if you read this.
I had a mate who lived on cricket ave, behind eden park.every big game there would be wankers who parked in his back yard and drive if he wasn't home to tell them to fuck off.He'd get home, block them in with his brother's truck and with the help of "security" extract $50 from them before they could get their cars back.This was in '82 so $50 wasn't cheap parking.
On one occasion a prick almost wiped me out as I was turning into cricket ave,the road was full of parked cars so I couldn't do a u-turn and go after him.I went round the block and found the car (a BMW) but the driver had left so I picked up a fresh dog turd with a piece of newspaper and packed it up under the door handles as a surprise for him. :devil2:

[zeRax]

damn that really sucks, just blatantly ratshit, feel bad for you dude.

whats the extent of the damage ?

[thehollowmen]

Sheeeit!! Real bummer dude!! I'd be white with rage if it happened to me!!!
Did they fingerprint the bike? hope they did 'cos there's always that chance the mental midget with the needle-dick that did that has some 'history'.

I am a bit angry, but now I have thought about it sitting here with a coffee and I accept that it is part of life. I think I am a little glad say I didn't put the first scratches into it, I've been riding it like a nana so far and have inch wide chicken strips.

SOCO just came over, took my prints, and lifted some off the bike. Apprently the house up the road have an idea who it is and they've got a criminal record so fingers crossed. They admit that their party got a bit out of hand with watching the rugby.


Sorry to hear about this mate. But I'm with others here, don't fall into the trap of blaming rugby for this incident.

Don't get me wrong: rugby is a great game. I understand why it has become part of NZ culture and why there is so much hype. And a lil aggression and competition in a controlled environment is a good thing, just like us speeding around on track day. But the level of alcohol and violence that comes with it from the spectators is the bit I don't like. I've had people dance on my roof before on rugby nights, students throw bottles at our house, my car keyed, but the trouble has only happened when there has been a big game in town. If we were in England and my bike got trashed by soccor hoolagins I'd say the same thing about them.

The damage isn't too bad in daylight. Bent brake lever and peddle, scratched farings, screen and tank, smashed indicator. There were globs of oil in the gutter on the night and I was worried there was damage and leaking from the brakes or radiator, but it hasn't left a mark now that we've transported it back home.

It could be worse, I'm glad I got insurance sorted out the day before I picked her up. If I was a lil more mechanicly minded I'd try putting her back together myself but... I'll leave it to the shop boys this time.

I'm about to go write a letter of thanks to the newspaper about how helpful the police have been.

[moko]

I`ve never heard of any violence here connected to Rugby.BUT we have serious social disorder all over the country at weekends,where I live the Police and Paramedics have actually set up a "field hospital" to treat the injured and hopefully get crimes reported straight away in clubland,I believe there`s the same thing in Cardiff as well.You think your Rugby crowds are bad,we`ve had several deaths here amongst soccer fans and organised violence was once all part of of what was going on up and down the country.There have even been cases of rival soccer fans fire-bombing a train carrying rival supporters home.Seems to have calmed down considerably now,we have segregated crowds,massive police presence at potentially volatile games e.t.c.But still not easy to explain to foreign visitors that riot-police and overhead helicopters are there to keep an eye on spectators at a sporting event.I`ve been to N.Z and never felt threatened anywhere,here I keep a wary eye out whenever I`m out and about after dark and with good reason.Street crime in my area is still fairly rare but we have had muggings within a few hundred metres of where I live and every ground floor flat in my little estate has been burgled at some point since I moved here 14 years ago.We also have police and security guards in our hospitals now as staff are assaulted on a regular basis.Un-like your experience students drink heavily here but rarely cause any hassle.Latest craze here amongst the scum that populate this island is to thump people while photographing the assault on one of the new mobile phones and "sharing" with fellow retards afterwards.Our laws here mean that if some young tosser takes a swing at me and I hurt him badly I`d more than likely be done for assault,people have been jailed for defending themselves before now.N.Z. might be getting worse but you`ve got a long way to go yet before you hit our level.

[spudchucka]

Wouldn't you just love to catch them in the act?

I hope they get the prick for you.

[Eurodave]

DEFINITION OF THIS NATIONS OPIATE ,RUGBY:

A bunch of grown men that are each paid to chase a ball that isnt even round & is made from bits of pig or cow, trying as best they can to maim the opposing team while feeling up their fellow team members

[sAsLEX]

DEFINITION OF THIS NATIONS OPIATE ,RUGBY:

A bunch of grown men that are each paid to chase a ball that isnt even round & is made from bits of pig or cow, trying as best they can to maim the opposing team while feeling up their fellow team members

synthetic now aint they???

[Eurodave]

Its OK to smash your or someone elses head in while playing Rugby, you will be regarded as a National Hero , even though you dont pay ACC fees & will clog up A&E. Hurt youself while riding a bike & you will only be regarded as a temporary NZer or at best an organ donor

[gamgee]

sorry to hear about your bike, good to see the typical 'all students are drunken bastards' steriotype coming up once again, see thats whats needed around here more prejudice, asian drivers, maori/pacific islander thieves, shifty car dealers, and of course drunken disorderly students, i think it's high time us bikers had a 'bring back the biff' campaign to reinstate our former reputation!

[Jabez]

Thehollowmen sorry to hear that, hope your bike is fixed soon so that you can enjoy riding it.

[Coyote]

Sorry to hear

Hope you get it repaired soon :niceone:

[Clockwork]

Its OK to smash your or someone elses head in while playing Rugby, you will be regarded as a National Hero , even though you dont pay ACC fees & will clog up A&E. Hurt youself while riding a bike & you will only be regarded as a temporary NZer or at best an organ donor

Not 100% sure of this, but I understand that Rugby clubs have to pay an ACC levy for each registered player.

[Dafe]

I have no problem with people disliking the sport of rugby, but like it or lump it - New Zealand is a country of acheivers and competitors, We stand tall on many stages around the world. We have excellent recognition from the world for being the home of rugby due to our solid commitment and passion for the sport.
Our country is one which is active when it comes to the outdoors and considering the population of our small country, our achievements are phenomenal.
I'm ten weeks into my season and I've had two drinks with the boys this year. I can tell you now, Rugby isn't what makes a person destructive to somebody elses property, that part of their nature is already instilled in them.
My experiences with rugby over the 15 years I've been playing is that the aggression exsists on field but off-field it's back to normality. Thats your typical week in week out experience for a rugby player.
For all you know - It may have been a soccer player who damaged the bike - Pissed that NZ largest competed in sport sucks ofor yet another year!

[gamgee]

soccer players don't do stupid things like that, or studying law at otago... :weird:

[Dafe]

True, Sport these days is about balancing the physical and mental and ...... mentally intelligent side. I just don't know why we suck at soccer so bad yet we can excel so well in a game of footy.

[Zed]

True, but is it the rugby culture that validates their attitude and actions.Not in this case I don't think, more like the booze talking rather than this "culture" you speak of. Would they do it if they were sober? Probably not.


I actually believe that rugby should be banned.

I cannot see why people should be alowed to do on a sports field that which would send them to prison for several years off the field.

But i never understood rugby, it seems just an excuse for thuggery. :mad:
Rugby banned? Lol, obviously you've never actually played it or been a part of the "culture"? Have you Ixion?

I've grown up around the All Blacks and rugby in NZ, and also played for several years at college, and it's really not as bad a picture as you paint. Sure, there are some players who are guilty of gross misconduct from time to time (and they should be dealt with harshly) but in general it is a contact sport that many Kiwis love and enjoy participating in and spectating.

Now 'boxing' on the other hand...:whistle:

[pritch]

I just don't know why we suck at soccer so bad yet we can excel so well in a game of footy.

We haven't got big enough slums yet but successive governments are working on it. In places like Brazil's favellas (sp?) thousands of kids play soccer in the street all day and a large part of the night.

Awful conditions of course, but this "system" can produce quite a good national side.

I think I'd start to worry if we got too good at soccer... :-(

[StoneChucker]

I just don't like rugby, or the huge emphasis placed on it. But I don't blame rugby for the damage done to the bike.

I blame the people "responsible", who clearly have no regard for people's possessions or the consequences (what fecking consequences :rofl: ) of wilfull damage. It's quite likely the problem was intensified by alcohol or drugs.

There is a whole culture of kids growing up (and even some current adults) where this behaviour is funny. I honestly think that being beaten to death publicly for this destructive mentality is quite fitting. I'd watch :motu:

I can't even express the contempt I feel for these people, ruining the experience of life for others. Who gives them the right, what makes THEM so farking special. Scum :mad:

[Biff]

I actually believe that rugby should be banned.

I cannot see why people should be alowed to do on a sports field that which would send them to prison for several years off the field.

But i never understood rugby, it seems just an excuse for thuggery. :mad:


You must be joking mate. I played for over a decade and I never undertook any actions that could be described as "thuggery". And neither do 98% of the players that play. Granted there are one or two thugs, but to ban a game played by hundreds of thousands of people around the world because a handful of the players resort to, what you describe as, thuggery - no, no ,no.

Some of the best years of my life revolved around rugby. Rugby kept me fit, taught me all kinds of physical and mental control, it taught me the importance of working as a team, supporting your fellow humans etc etc.

[2_SL0]

Sorry to hear about the bike. I dont think Rugby is to blame. (Cant stand the game myself) Its the quality of the person watching the game. Slowly NZ is slipping down a nasty destructive slope. Moku is correct with regards to how society is in Uk. I feel we are heading in that direction. We may be a few years behind the Brits, but I think the end result will be the same if we dont make some serious changes to society.

[Big Dave]

Some of the best years of my life revolved around rugby. Rugby kept me fit, taught me all kinds of physical and mental control, it taught me the importance of working as a team, supporting your fellow humans etc etc.

showering with other men......

I'm indifferent to rugby, having been brought up on league it's hard to watch union.
The concept of advantage from regularly putting the ball out of play is frustrating.

A wing three quarter in full flight is a beautiful sight, true, but I go and talk to the chics when the AB's test is on if we are out somewhere. usually have them all to myself too. :clap:

Basketball is life.

[John]

SAD HOPE THE BIKE IS NOT TOO DAMAGED
Fuck pitty from winja you hit the jackpot - sorry about your bike its sad how pathetic some poeple really are.

[Wolf]

Sure, there are some players who are guilty of gross misconduct from time to time (and they should be dealt with harshly)
But they aren't.

They get "sin binned" for a few games/weeks/months and get all cry-baby about it - when they should be falling to their knees giving thanks that they managed to break the law without the usual consequences - such as jail time.

Honestly, the "Great All Blacks" and most the others I've seen in recent years are a pack of thugs with no concept of sportsmanship - whatever happened to "no tackling above the waist"? Now the neck seems to be the only target. And of course, if they can lay in a boot, get in a fist (or elbow or fingernails or teeth) every now and then, all the better, eh? I mean - those other fuckers might beat 'em if they're still intact, best to make it "fair" by maiming a couple.

And Zed - punching is allowed in boxing - it's not allowed in rugby.

In theory anyway - it seems to be only a minor infringement these days, you've now got to blind the fucker and rip out a lung before you get sin binned...

[gav]

You must be joking mate. I played for over a decade and I never undertook any actions that could be described as "thuggery". And neither do 98% of the players that play. Granted there are one or two thugs, but to ban a game played by hundreds of thousands of people around the world because a handful of the players resort to, what you describe as, thuggery - no, no ,no.

Some of the best years of my life revolved around rugby. Rugby kept me fit, taught me all kinds of physical and mental control, it taught me the importance of working as a team, supporting your fellow humans etc etc.
Taught you about winning, no, hang on, your Welsh arent you, never mind.... :motu:
Oh you soccer fans (both of you) might like this......
http://x6.putfile.com/videos/c7-16303132512.wmv

[WINJA]

WHAT ABOUT THOSE 3 RUGBY PLAYERS KICKING THAT GIRL TO MAKE HER MISCARRY HER BABY THEN BEING ALLOWED TO CONTINUE PLAYING , SMART MANAGERS WOULD HAVE DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM THOSE FUCKERS NOT SUPPORT THEM

[gav]

League players werent they? Not rugby......

[WINJA]

League players werent they? Not rugby......
IS THERE MUCH DIFFERENCE

[gav]

Yeah mate, NZ rugby players win most of the time, league .........

[soundbeltfarm]

Its OK to smash your or someone elses head in while playing Rugby, you will be regarded as a National Hero , even though you dont pay ACC fees & will clog up A&E. Hurt youself while riding a bike & you will only be regarded as a temporary NZer or at best an organ donor

get it right mate.
we pay acc levies in our club fees.

[Biff]

Taught you about winning, no, hang on, your Welsh arent you, never mind....

So over a season without loosing a match, a grand slam, triple crown, 6 nations champions and being hailed as the the best team in the northern hemisphere doesn't constitute winning eh Gav? :motu:

[Ixion]

get it right mate.
we pay acc levies in our club fees.

I do not think this is correct.

The collection of ACC levies is governed by the relevant legislation , the Injury Prevention, Rehabilitaion and compensation Act 2001.

Part 6 of this Act give the ACC power to collect levies.

Levies may only be collected in accordance with the Act. There are several types of levies specified

Employer levy : collected from employers, based on payroll and industry class
Self Employed : Collect from self employed persons based on income

There is provision for self employed to purchase extra cover

Motor vehicle levy: Which we all know about
Medical Misadventure Levy: On the medical profession
General Account: A payment by the government from general taxation to cover injuries that do not fall into the other accounts.

A Rugby club will pay ACC leveis in its role as an employer. This covers the risk of injury to employees of the club only (and will thus cover injuroes to PROFESSIONAL rugby players).

There is no provision within the Act for ACC to collect levies to cover injury to non professional players, if these ar enot employed by the club

Simply, amateur players cannot pay ACC levys that cover the cost of their own injuries as part of their clubs fees because ACC do not have any legislative capability to collect such levies.

A rugby club (or any other club, for that matter) may pay ACC levies (and collect money for these as part of club fees) to cover the ACC charged against club EMPLOYEES.

[festus]

First, sorry to hear about your bike dude, been there before mate, walked out of the pub to see my bike sitting on it's side. There are some arseholes out there......

Second, give us rugby players a break!, I played senior footy for 18 years, you get the odd arsehole in the game, who like to fight and all the rest of it, but they soon get sorted out!. BTW, ACC levie are built into our subs.

It's the alcohol that brings the arsehole factor out in people. Doesn't matter what background they come from..........

[sels1]

Sorry to hear about yr bike mate - sympathies

To blame the sport of rugby for this criminal act is the same as blaming motorcycling for any criminal act carried out by someone that might have ridden (or even only watched) a motorcycle at some time.
We dont like it when ignorance and prediduce is directed at us...why dish it out to other sports?

[sels1]

[QUOTE=festus]BTW, ACC levie are built into our subs.QUOTE]

Even college players have to pay

[Big Dave]

It's the alcohol that brings the arsehole factor out in people. Doesn't matter what background they come from..........

Ahh. How right you are.
I've been losing weight for the last 18 months which means I don't drink - not tea total - but average less than one drink per week.

I usually go out social on my bike so rarely used to be a big drinker anyway, but sure - I know all about 'instant assholes - just add alcohol'. There's a point where you go FTS and leave the party.

[thehollowmen]

First, sorry to hear about your bike dude, been there before mate, walked out of the pub to see my bike sitting on it's side. There are some arseholes out there......

Second, give us rugby players a break!, I played senior footy for 18 years, you get the odd arsehole in the game, who like to fight and all the rest of it, but they soon get sorted out!. BTW, ACC levie are built into our subs.

It's the alcohol that brings the arsehole factor out in people. Doesn't matter what background they come from..........

Thanks. I guess I'm gonna have to work hard to get this cosmetic damage worked out. Almost all the systems are fine again.

I do respect rugby players but some of the supporters are a lil dodgy. I didn't intend this thread to become a slinging match between supporters and non-supporters of rugby. However witnesses do have the people who trashed the area all wearing blue and gold. I think you're right, it is alcohol that brings out the arsehole factor, and they're often using anything as an excuse to drink.. like the big game.

[DingDong]

that sucks, hope you get back on track soon... :no:

[Zed]

They get "sin binned" for a few games/weeks/months and get all cry-baby about it - when they should be falling to their knees giving thanks that they managed to break the law without the usual consequences - such as jail time.

Honestly, the "Great All Blacks" ..


And Zed - punching is allowed in boxing - it's not allowed in rugby.

In theory anyway - it seems to be only a minor infringement these days, you've now got to blind the fucker and rip out a lung before you get sin binned...So what's your beef with the game Mr Wolf? Have you been directly involved in the sport before? Have you ever played or supported the game? Or have you always held it in disdain?? :nono:

Btw, you missed the *punchline* in that boxing comment of mine. :nya:

[gav]

So over a season without loosing a match, a grand slam, triple crown, 6 nations champions and being hailed as the the best team in the northern hemisphere doesn't constitute winning eh Gav? :motu:
So they've got better since you left, hmmmmm :motu: :motu:

[festus]

First, sorry to hear about your bike dude, been there before mate, walked out of the pub to see my bike sitting on it's side. There are some arseholes out there......

Second, give us rugby players a break!, I played senior footy for 18 years, you get the odd arsehole in the game, who like to fight and all the rest of it, but they soon get sorted out!. BTW, ACC levie are built into our subs.

It's the alcohol that brings the arsehole factor out in people. Doesn't matter what background they come from..........

I stand corrected. Rugby players, like all other sports, rugby do not pay an ACC levy, and neither does your club. For some reason I always thought that because the subs have always been bloody high!.

[Jantar]

I saw your letter published in the ODT. I just hope that whoever did this to you has the neccessary intelligence to read the Letters to the Editor column.

[marty]

seems you're not the only one......

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/waikatotimes/0,2106,3324785a6579,00.html

[Dafe]

Wales are Champions at the second level. Which describes the Northern hemispheres rugby rather well at present.
Right now, Wales would die a gruesome death on the field against either NZ or Australia.

An interesting chat I had with my father recently, was that from all the Lions players and All Blacks players combined, If I chose a team to take the field, It would have included only one Lions player - Gareth Thomas at fullback.

[Lou Girardin]

And there's the whole homoerotic thing with scrums. Sticking your head and hands up some sweaty male crutch never held any appeal for me. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Then again, soccer's no better with all that hugging and kissing.
Stuff it, I'll stick to bikes.