Roo's off to court now too...

[roo]

Ok... so it started out a really great day... the sun was shining, the birds singing, my beautiful baby singing "thrash me thrash me" as it sucked lungfuls of cold air...
Somehow... it ended with the eagle buzzing over me as I stood on the side of the northwestern motorway watching a serious crash unit pull up behind the HP car that just stopped me, having been left well and truly behind trying to catch me. I wondered where in the hell I had lost touch with the reality that started to bite... and only bit stronger as I kicked my heels in the drunktank down at auckland central for the better part of a day...
I was in trouble... real proper trouble... not just "smack on the bum, on yer way son" ticketable misdemeanor but an angry angry serious crash unit officer jumping up and down in my face and trying to wrest a speed out of me. He didnt get one, and so therefore I missed the 28days instant standdown, but slapped me with a dangerous driving charge and it looks like I'm gonna be walking for a while now... *sniff*
Moral of the story, ladies and gentlemen,... is NEVER STOP!!! You dont know who may be trying to catchup. Ride it like ya stole it, and keep that throttle pinned. :mad:

[Ixion]

Ok... so it started out a really great day... the sun was shining, the birds singing, my beautiful baby singing "thrash me thrash me" as it sucked lungfuls of cold air...
Somehow... it ended with the eagle buzzing over me as I stood on the side of the northwestern motorway watching a serious crash unit pull up behind the HP car that just stopped me, having been left well and truly behind trying to catch me. I wondered where in the hell I had lost touch with the reality that started to bite... and only bit stronger as I kicked my heels in the drunktank down at auckland central for the better part of a day...
I was in trouble... real proper trouble... not just "smack on the bum, on yer way son" ticketable misdemeanor but an angry angry serious crash unit officer jumping up and down in my face and trying to wrest a speed out of me. He didnt get one, and so therefore I missed the 28days instant standdown, but slapped me with a dangerous driving charge and it looks like I'm gonna be walking for a while now... *sniff*
Moral of the story, ladies and gentlemen,... is NEVER STOP!!! You dont know who may be trying to catchup. Ride it like ya stole it, and keep that throttle pinned. :mad:


Oh dear. Time to find a good lawyer. Commiserations, probably. So long as it wasn't actually dangerous.

[WINJA]

YAY AT LEAST ONE PERSON WHO AGREES ABOUT NOT STOPPING, YOU PROBABLY MET STU KEARNS HES A REAL CUNT, I HOPE YOU DO OK IN COURT

[justsomeguy]

Yeah -- dufus why did you stop?? They'd never catch you unless they got the bird out.......:weird:

Anyway... best of luck.. take a deep breath and count to 10 before you say anything....

Better still let your lawyer do all the talking.

[justsomeguy]

YAY AT LEAST ONE PERSON WHO AGREES ABOUT NOT STOPPING, YOU PROBABLY MET STU KEARNS HES A REAL CUNT, I HOPE YOU DO OK IN COURT

If ya decided to run - then run...... simple......:yes:

[Ixion]

Uh, just a point , Mr roo. You might want to clarify that you were not under the influence , otherwise people will see the bit about the drunktank, and draw a wrong conclusion and we'll ahve a big barney about drink driving. (I'm assuming you mean that they arrested you for dangerous driving, and held you in the cells while they did whatever it is that they do about bail and stuff [Mr Spudchucka told me I had the bail thing wrong, so I'm not quite sure what the process is ]). Anyway I assume you didn't mean it was the drunktank cos *you* were drunk. I don't think bikers tend to go in for that much anyway.

[placidfemme]

Firstly... Good luck in court

Secondly... When you say don't stop... do you mean out run the cops?

*proberly wouldn't be able to on my 250... would panic and stop*

*is a wuss*

[justsomeguy]

Firstly... Good luck in court

Secondly... When you say don't stop... do you mean out run the cops?

*proberly wouldn't be able to on my 250... would panic and stop*

*is a wuss*

Yes you could - but it will take a bit of skill.... cos you can only do 200 on your bike.......so the commodores wont be that far away.....

[placidfemme]

*never been faster than 140kph... proberly a good thing for now*

Only ever been pulled over once... was a cop on a bike... he was rather nice :)

[justsomeguy]

*never been faster than 140kph... proberly a good thing for now*

Only ever been pulled over once... was a cop on a bike... he was rather nice :)

That's $1.40 to you.....I can barely buy anything worth $1.50 with my money...... never mind......and I only use that money on lonely, empty, country roads with 100% visibility and no driveways/joining roads.....

---------------

Let us know how it goes Roo

[**R1**]

fully way cheaper and it saves police time not stopping(less paper work aye coppers?)

[justsomeguy]

Disclaimer: By the way - before the PC brigade gets on my case - I am not in favour of doing runners, etc :nono: - but if one unfortunately finds themselves in that situation :whistle: I believe it is better to keep going until it is unsafe to continue doing so.......:ride:

[Zed]

Secondly... When you say don't stop... do you mean out run the cops?No I'm sure he wouldn't have meant that, cos "that" would be highly illegal and dangerous...unless, nah let's not go there.

I'm sure he meant don't ever stop riding!

We're all fairly law-abiding citizens on KB, only the real fast *pros* don't stop for cops! :Punk:


[Edit: Notice how the pros have come out to play]

[Lee Rusty]

run away, run away, run away, types realise you CAN NOT out run a radio
telephone. You cant outrun the eye in the sky.

I hope you lose you licence for 12 months or more. A couple of grand fine
might help you to grow a brain, and if you cant pay I hope they take your bike and sell it. I dont want wankers like you on the road - you push up my insurance costs and ACC levies.

All those who advocate this shit for other riders get a fucking life.

If you break the rules and get caught you are better off to stop - the fine will be less, the loss of licence is more unlikely, the risk of a crash is much less, the risk of hurting someone else is less. Note - I don't care if you injure your stupid self or damage your bike. Just dont crash into me while your doing your runner.

Final word - this guy stopped - he did a runner - but HE STOPPED - so he is full of shit.

Dont come crying here - poor me, poor me, while you are walking keep kicking your own arse, and repeat often Dickhead.

[curious george]

Oh boy, here we go again!!!

[Zed]

Disclaimer: By the way - before the PC brigade gets on my case - I am not in favour of doing runners, etc :nono: - but if one unfortunately finds themselves in that situation :whistle: I believe it is better to keep going until it is unsafe to continue doing so.......:ride:You should have posted that first! You've already confused 10's of us for 20mins or so. :wacko:

USE MORE SMILIES or expressive language! :whistle:

[justsomeguy]

You should have posted that first! You've already confused 10's of us for 20mins or so. :wacko:

USE MORE SMILIES or expressive language! :whistle:

Oh sorry ... my mistake...... and correct me if I'm wrong..... (KB Cops) ...... but isn't getting stopped by a cop 9 out of 10 times a civil dispute (in the end/go to councli, etc) - but a runner immediately becomes a criminal matter???

Or if not it immediately takes "the offence" to a whole other level of seriousness??

[**R1**]

run away, run away, run away, types realise you CAN NOT out run a radio
telephone. You cant outrun the eye in the sky.

I hope you lose you licence for 12 months or more. A couple of grand fine
might help you to grow a brain, and if you cant pay I hope they take your bike and sell it. I dont want wankers like you on the road - you push up my insurance costs and ACC levies.

All those who advocate this shit for other riders get a fucking life.

If you break the rules and get caught you are better off to stop - the fine will be less, the loss of licence is more unlikely, the risk of a crash is much less, the risk of hurting someone else is less. Note - I don't care if you injure your stupid self or damage your bike. Just dont crash into me while your doing your runner.

Final word - this guy stopped - he did a runner - but HE STOPPED - so he is full of shit.

Dont come crying here - poor me, poor me, while you are walking keep kicking your own arse, and repeat often Dickhead.PMT???????

[justsomeguy]

PMT???????

mate this fella knows more bout such things than you..... no explanation necessary

.......and I thought it's PMS - whats PMT :whistle:

[Zed]

run away, run away, run away


.....:pop: .....

[justsomeguy]

.....:pop: .....









..........:killingme: ............

............ ............

[Coldkiwi]

run away, run away, run away, types realise you CAN NOT out run a radio
telephone. You cant outrun the eye in the sky.




don't need to outrun said eye or radio telephone.... just gotta not be seen by the eye and not be anywhere near an RT set that could spread the word.

hindsight is a wonderful thing roo but you never know what might've happened at the next intersection so although the next little while may suck, at least you didn't bin the bike (after all, they could've caught you after you'd been hit by a car etc)

Seriously though, I hope it goes ok for you in court

[**R1**]

mate this fella knows more bout such things than you..... no explanation necessary

.......and I thought it's PMS - whats PMT :whistle:he knows more about PMT or doing the runner?? it says in his profile he is a motorcycle instructor, i bet he cant even wheelie......

[justsomeguy]

he knows more about PMT or doing the runner?? it says in his profile he is a motorcycle instructor, i bet he cant even wheelie......

And that makes you better how??

[crashe]

......and I thought it's PMS - whats PMT :whistle:

hehehehe same thing mate.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[justsomeguy]

hehehehe same thing mate.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

What's T?? Trauma??

[**R1**]

hehehehe same thing mate.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: needs to hang with some chicks i think:yes: :yes:

[**R1**]

What's T?? Trauma?? T= tension(SP)...u know like on kb when ever doing the runner comes up

[justsomeguy]

:rofl: :rofl: needs to hang with some chicks i think:yes: :yes:

Sorry didn't know you were the expert......

[HDTboy]

Is there a background story to this event?

[justsomeguy]

Is there a background story to this event?

First post basically......and some other reasons......which I feel are not up to me to make public knowledge.

[HDTboy]

First post basically......and some other reasons......which I feel are not up to me to make public knowledge.
I meant a background story leading up to the first post

[**R1**]

Sorry didn't know you were the expert......sweet as bro...any Q's just give me a holla:love: ...just fukn wif ya i havnt had my meds today

[crashe]

sweet as bro...any Q's just give me a holla:love: ...just fukn wif ya i havnt had my meds today

Right, go and take them MEDS right NOW.... go on...

Awwww justsomeguy.... PMS and PMT is the same thing.
The T stands for Tension.
:grouphug:

[justsomeguy]

sweet as bro...any Q's just give me a holla:love: ...just fukn wif ya i havnt had my meds today

don't apologise and recognize the sarcasm..... never heard the moods referred to as PMT......... newais....dhi tred ees a-bhou Roo eh.....

[Lee Rusty]

I dont have PMT or PMS - just dont like dipshits.

If he wasnt running from cops how did the Eagle eye get involved.

Next year when your ACC donation goes up another $50 or so you can pay mine as well - thats for 3 bikes. so I look forward to $150 from you.

If you defend this sort of bullshit, you are as bad as the tossers that spout it.

Remember this tosser stopped, so all his "do a runner bullshit" counts for nothing, but who has he convinced it is a good idea, who will end up as Raspberry jam underneath a Holden or a bus.

I dont ned to hang out with chicks - my missus gets upset. Oh! and I keep my wheelies in the dirt where they belong.

[Lou Girardin]

run away, run away, run away, types realise you CAN NOT out run a radio
telephone. You cant outrun the eye in the sky.


Yes you can. Chopper = 200 k's. Bike = more. RT only works if there's someone to respond. And we know now that HP turn their RT's off so that revenue collecting isn't interrupted.

[Lee Rusty]

is worth more than 200kph on the ground.

if your theory was correct he would not have got caught.

[ZorsT]

Hey Roo
That really sucks for you.... Could you give us some more background and possibly tell me/us where you went wrong so we can learn?? :whistle: :shutup:

[roo]

If you defend this sort of bullshit, you are as bad as the tossers that spout it.

Remember this tosser stopped, so all his "do a runner bullshit" counts for nothing, but who has he convinced it is a good idea, who will end up as Raspberry jam underneath a Holden or a bus.


A couple of points:
[1] It was not a runner per se. I actually had no idea a pursuit was in progress so of course I stopped for a patrol car that I figured hadnt seen anything (I spotted them before they could see me)
[2] I am largely not in favour of runners. I have pulled them in my younger stupider days - and beleive me... when it works, it is much easier than standing up to the consequences. The flip side of the coin is a cost that few people I believe have actually weighed up properly.

Backstory is I got carried away on my way to work, and passed a serious crash unit (no giveaway markings/wheels/stickers/aerials, just a white commodore stationwagon) at *cough* 'a high relative speed' *cough*... he gave chase, got left behind and radioed ahead. Unaware of all this, I carried on my merry way and subsequently got pulled by an HP unit which got on alongside me at western springs. I beleive the chopper was already airborne and was in the vicinity so had I actually intentionally run from there the stakes were much higher...

I have ended up as raspberry jam (as you delightfully put it) due to my stupidity in the past, and to be honest... was merely being tongue in cheek when closing my last post. The *real* moral of the story (for those not smart enough to pick up on it) is theres a time and place, and I got a relatively light reminder of that. I've had much harder lessons in the past - ending up under a 40 tonne truck, waking up 10 days later, and costing many many $$$ in fixup costs not to mention the ongoing rehab I'm _still_ going through.
Long story short, my riding approach is about to get a serious makeover and dumbass shit like that is in the bin.
The old Roo is dead, I'll see you on the racetrack.

[aff-man]

Sorry to hear it roo. Hope it goes well in court.


:motu: to anyone who badmouths you everyone is entitled to thier opinions man sometimes people are just full of shit :wait:

[spudchucka]

Is there a background story to this event?
A brother and a sister had it off together and the sister got knocked up. The sister gave birth to something that resembled a human but had a few to many digits on each hand and foot. Eventually the humanoid grew bigger and one day was big enough to ride a motor bike. Then the humanoid got a computer, got hooked up on the interweb, joined a biker forum and called himself roo.

[Jantar]

Spud, That was uncalled for. He knows what he did wrong, your comments would relate more to someone who is in denial. :nono:

[roo]

A brother and a sister had it off together and the sister got knocked up. The sister gave birth to something that resembled a human but had a few to many digits on each hand and foot. Eventually the humanoid grew bigger and one day was big enough to ride a motor bike. Then the humanoid got a computer, got hooked up on the interweb, joined a biker forum and called himself roo.

And you're just jealous of my ability to count to 27 when I've got me shoes off

[HDTboy]

I just wish i could count to 21 with my clothes on

[WINJA]

A brother and a sister had it off together and the sister got knocked up. The sister gave birth to something that resembled a human but had a few to many digits on each hand and foot. Eventually the humanoid grew bigger and one day was big enough to ride a motor bike. Then the humanoid got a computer, got hooked up on the interweb, joined a biker forum and called himself roo.
AND YOUR THE DADDY , YOUR A SAD FUCKER PIGGY

[justsomeguy]

Take it easy mate......best of luck

[NhuanH]

And you're just jealous of my ability to count to 27 when I've got me shoes off
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Soz to hear about your run in with the po-po roo. I believe your take on events, especially knowing what happened the last time you had an "incident" on a motobicycle.

Hope it works out for you bro. And hope you don't meet any 300lb guys named Bubba during any transactions with the constabulary :whistle:

[spudchucka]

Spud, That was uncalled for.
Yeah, I know, I couldn't help myself. It just seemed like the thing to do at the time.

[spudchucka]

AND YOUR THE DADDY , YOUR A SAD FUCKER PIGGY
I never knew you had a brother wingey.

[WINJA]

I never knew you had a brother wingey.
I DO , AND HES GAY , YOU CRUZIN FOR A PIECE OF ASS

[bugjuice]

roo, what speed were you clocked at to be walkin round for a while?

[roo]

roo, what speed were you clocked at to be walkin round for a while?
He didnt get a speed (serious crash unit = no radar or hoojy-wotsit-gadgets...), so I still hold a license (till the judge kicks me in the bum at least anyway...) and I think it's blatantly foolish to post speeds in here anyhow... especially in this case (where it's yet to go before court) so "neg, I wont say."

At least I have less distraction to finishing the F3 bike now...

[spudchucka]

I DO , AND HES GAY , YOU CRUZIN FOR A PIECE OF ASS
No thanks, I'll leave the fudge packing for you and your Bro.

[roo]

He didnt get a speed

He did, however, have a couple of well-crafted attempts at coercing an admission of speed out of me though. This highlights the point that's been made many many times: "You have a right to remain silent SO USE IT".
Unless you are aware of the way these guys structure their questions/conversation to get details out of you (with the (mostly) sole objective of prosecution), and can think on your feet fast enough to not incriminate yourself, then keep your mouth closed and let your lawyer do the talking.

[Fluffy Cat]

Thats just what i did Roo the race track is the place to be what is the point of a ZX10 on the road?,its a sad waste of bike but he he its a free country.Now i use my nice slow XRV750.
Just wondering about m/c road deaths are they all from runners.I thought it was junctions u-turns and off road bikes putting up Acc costs.

[**R1**]

I dont have PMT or PMS - just dont like dipshits.

If he wasnt running from cops how did the Eagle eye get involved.

Next year when your ACC donation goes up another $50 or so you can pay mine as well - thats for 3 bikes. so I look forward to $150 from you.

If you defend this sort of bullshit, you are as bad as the tossers that spout it.

Remember this tosser stopped, so all his "do a runner bullshit" counts for nothing, but who has he convinced it is a good idea, who will end up as Raspberry jam underneath a Holden or a bus.

I dont ned to hang out with chicks - my missus gets upset. Oh! and I keep my wheelies in the dirt where they belong.

Man dont complain about the price of ACC, for what it costs each year its fucken cheap when ya concider the cost of the repairs you need when ya arse off.....my last off cost acc $11,000 and your complaining about $150???? its not just "dipshits" that crash, something YOU need to bear in mind.....wheelies are cool in the dirt for sure...but take it from me they are just as much fun on the road or track....

[ManDownUnder]

no to put too fine-a-point on it... but if roo done bad, roo gets to pay.

You do the crime you do the time.

Roo - good luck dude, sounds like you're going to need it. DON'T do anything that will incriminate you (postig speeds in here or relinquishing your right to remain silent etc) and put up a good defence.

You're fine to do all that stuff... but... the simple fact is you did something stupid and you're likely to pay a price for that. I believe that's what punishment and the law is all about.

Personal accountability. It's not a tough one.
MDU

[Coldkiwi]

Next year when your ACC donation goes up another $50 or so you can pay mine as well - thats for 3 bikes. so I look forward to $150 from you.


Oh! and I keep my wheelies in the dirt where they belong.

you MIGHT want to give some thought to all the moto-x accidents and ensuing costs that suck up road riders ACC fees as well given that the off road boys don't need rego before spouting such things.

i can see why you're a little niggly about ACC etc but I think you've missed the boat on this thread (besides, there's a PLETHORA of other sports that have huge injury bills and contribute sweet nowt to the costs)

[madboy]

Ahh, great, another thread with the diametricly opposed parties of those for runners and those against, going off at each other.

ACC levies presumably stem from ACC having to get money to pay claims - so where does a claim come in to doing a runner? Or is that after you've been beaten up by the cops and you put your claim in for compensation? Because if you do a runner and don't injure yourself (note this includes both runners where you get caught and those where you don't) then there should be no need for an ACC claim. So the tossers who link runners back to ACC premiums must be referring to police brutality. So I agree with you guys :yes: Runners may well result in increased ACC premiums.

The people who say that runners result in accidents, unnecessary risks, etc etc etc are living in a bloody dream world. Do you guys think that you need to up the ante over what you were already doing to get away? Sometimes not. Have you never ridden a modern sportsbike? Many times certain people I know well ( :whistle: ) have got away without the need to wind it on more so than they normally would anyway. So another myth I don't agree with.

Runners may be dangerous (as all high speed/high risk riding is), but let's face it - some of us do runners, some of us don't. Some of us ride at the speed of "runners" in the normal course of our riding, some of us don't. So really having a funny looking car behind (usually WAY behind) you doesn't make all that much difference in terms of speed/risk. And you sanctimonious twats standing on your high horses spouting bollocks should just accept that's how it is.

And as for that bollocks about not outrunning the radio - oh my f***ing God, you guys need to get your heads out of the sand. What purpose does a radio serve? They can have a chit chat about the road conditions, speed, direction of travel and possibly a description of the bike (one I heard on the scanner of a real live KB member getting some attention was "it was white, one of those jap bikes, doing 147, saw me and took off really fast"). And that was the ENTIRE pursuit. Sure, every cop in a 20km radius knew about it, but there are a lot of places to hide in that situation, if they even needed to hide before they got home.

But we don't live in Auckland, so we don't have a chopper to deal with. That might have an influence on whether a runner was on or not.

Roo, my condolences mate. Good luck in court and may the 5-0 Gods turn a blind eye for the future.

[madboy]

By the way - if you have a mathematically inclined mind and happen to like riding sportsbikes fast...

If this hypothetical rider stopped every single time the 5-0 suggested they did, this would probably be between 5 and 10 times a year. Each time would result in a ticket, because the speeds were always in excess of 10km/h over the limit. Allowing for the odd 30+, 40+ that would allow for a ticket to be issued, as opposed to the 50+ that was instant loss of licence, and you're talking about thousands of dollars in fines, an excess of demerit points and certain suspension of licence through those excess points. So the individual would then either spend 90% of their time not riding their bike, or they would spent 90% of their time riding whilst disq and running the risk of further infringements that would occur.

And everytime said hypothetical individual gets a ticket/conviction on their bike, they have an obligation to advise their insurance company who insure their CAR/s. The outcome would be that the insurers would increase the premiums/excess/decline coverage. Leaving the individual either uninsured or in debt.

So simplistic people say "stop, take the ticket, do the crime do the time". That's cool - $300 and 40 demerits mean nothing to the hypothetical individual. But it's what happens when a few of these combine that it suddenly means you're doing a runner not from $300 and 40 demerits, but from thousands of dollars and huge risks. So it puts the "high" risk of a runner back in perspective.

[Indoo]

By the way - if you have a mathematically inclined mind and happen to like riding sportsbikes fast...

Alternatively they could just stop riding stupidly fast in stupid situations where their stupid arse is invariably going to get caught by a cop?

Pursuits put a shit load of people at risk, including other innocent motorists which might someday include yourself or your family who have a head on with some motorbike doing a runner at 150kmh+. I don't think any formula can quite justify that.

[Lou Girardin]

By the way - if you have a mathematically inclined mind and happen to like riding sportsbikes fast...

If this hypothetical rider stopped every single time the 5-0 suggested they did, this would probably be between 5 and 10 times a year. Each time would result in a ticket, because the speeds were always in excess of 10km/h over the limit. Allowing for the odd 30+, 40+ that would allow for a ticket to be issued, as opposed to the 50+ that was instant loss of licence, and you're talking about thousands of dollars in fines, an excess of demerit points and certain suspension of licence through those excess points. So the individual would then either spend 90% of their time not riding their bike, or they would spent 90% of their time riding whilst disq and running the risk of further infringements that would occur.

And everytime said hypothetical individual gets a ticket/conviction on their bike, they have an obligation to advise their insurance company who insure their CAR/s. The outcome would be that the insurers would increase the premiums/excess/decline coverage. Leaving the individual either uninsured or in debt.

So simplistic people say "stop, take the ticket, do the crime do the time". That's cool - $300 and 40 demerits mean nothing to the hypothetical individual. But it's what happens when a few of these combine that it suddenly means you're doing a runner not from $300 and 40 demerits, but from thousands of dollars and huge risks. So it puts the "high" risk of a runner back in perspective.


Or you could smarten up, be aware of risk areas, use counter-measures and not get tickets.
Boring huh?

[sAsLEX]

use counter-measures and not get tickets

yeah a couple of active radar and laser jammers and your home sweet!

[Ixion]

yeah a couple of active radar and laser jammers and your home sweet!


Would not have helped in this case. Mr Roo rode past an unmarked mufti car , which pursued him, and (I presume ) radioed for HP and chopper backup. Mufti car didn't have radar.

[madboy]

When you do a certain amount of kays in a certain amount of situations, luck determines whether you are put into a situation that may end up with a run-in (or away from) the 5-0. Cops don't discriminate between an act actually being dangerous or not. They chase you for exceeding the speed limit as well. And who can honest say they genuinely believe that exceeding the speed limit in itself is dangerous? 100km/h past a school at 3pm on a weekday in the wet on your GN250 might be dangerous, but is 120km/h on a deserted 3-lane motorway at 1am in the dry on your GSXR1000 dangerous? You tell me.

You'd then have to put your hand on your heart and say that you'd never EVER exceeded the speed limit, otherwise you'd be a hypocrite. And who's gonna admit they're a hypocrite?

[White trash]

You'd then have to put your hand on your heart and say that you'd never EVER exceeded the speed limit, otherwise you'd be a hypocrite. And who's gonna admit they're a hypocrite?

Never, NEVER broken the speed limit.

whilst on one wheel with no cloths on

[SPman]

Never, NEVER broken the speed limit.

whilst on one wheel with no cloths on

Yeah, but WHICH speed limit - the speed of sound?

[Ixion]

I broke a speed limit once. It was an accident. I bumped it and it fell over and broke. I stuck it back together with Uhu glue, and it still worked OK, but there were all these cracks in it.

[Dafe]

How can you get done in court? A lawyer would get you off easy. Just talk to one.
There is no evidence, only the word of an officer who has no idea how fast you were going. Don't forget, you don't know either..... and you were riding as you always have, just like when you got your motorcycle licence. Your not aware that you were riding in any offensive way, otherwise you would have expected to fail your bike licence.
Perhaps suggest that you will enrol in a motorcycle school safety course because you are upset by this having happened.
And do do the course!!!

[justsomeguy]

I broke a speed limit once. It was an accident. I bumped it and it fell over and broke. I stuck it back together with Uhu glue, and it still worked OK, but there were all these cracks in it.

...............Ixion for comedian of the year.......

[justsomeguy]

Alternatively they could just stop riding stupidly fast in stupid situations where their stupid arse is invariably going to get caught by a cop?


Don't be stupid.......... the solution CANNOT be that simple.......

We need jammers and detectors and our own fleet of satellites and spy planes.....:Punk:

Yea thats what we need.... and rockets..:yes: ...so we can blast those piggys back to the sty...... oh yeah and we need this network of trailer trucks that we can dissappear into the back off - to hide from these guys......

And we need vans travelling with us with cool audio equipment playing a sexy soundtrack while we do all this......

Yea... that's what we need......:ride:

[Will]

What falls into the "runner" situation?

Not getting caught?

We have all done that!


Not so long ago I was late for an appointment (funeral actually) and was jumping around the lanes on the motorway, avoiding all those slow cages. I knew I would be obvious, had my radar dectector on, and was more keeping an eye out. At one point, I briefly caught red and blue lights flashing in my mirrors. Did another check, nothing amongst all the cages. So I thought, ah, there's a mufti in there and he is stalking me but he had to use his lights to get one of those arsehole cagers out of his way. Sorry mate but the game is up. And I was doing exactly 105 around all the slow cages. Never got pulled up. So I must've done a runner. :motu:

Be honest folks, isn't that part of the reason you ride :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Two Smoker]

Second what Lou says... Most of you know i ride fast, but i also choose that time i ride fast very carefully... SH22 yep ill go quick, SH1... fark off... also residential areas... Fark off... The only way i see that you can be done on the motorway is you passed a mufti car, otherwise you definately deserve it... but then if im passing cars its not at some insane speed, what happens when they change lanes???

[sAsLEX]

, SH1... fark off...

hmmmm, must of still been 2 then technically?!...................

[Two Smoker]

hmmmm, must of still been 2 then technically?!...................

Well technically it was a interchange... so it was neither :P (my excuse lol, ill see that standing up in court....)

[ajturbo]

Never, NEVER broken the speed limit.

whilst on one wheel with no cloths on

with no cloths on eh????
i don't even want to know if you have even tried it....:devil2: and if you do try to please let EVERYONE know so we can get buckets ready for the chunder that WILL come...:puke:

[spudchucka]

How can you get done in court? A lawyer would get you off easy. Just talk to one.
There is no evidence, only the word of an officer who has no idea how fast you were going.
Got a lot to learn sunshine.

[Ixion]

How can you get done in court? A lawyer would get you off easy. Just talk to one.
There is no evidence, only the word of an officer who has no idea how fast you were going. ..

Presumably the officer has a speedometer? And he was following, so he can at least say "It was in excess of xx kph " ?

Strictly speaking I believe he does not even need that. There have been convictions just on the basis of an estimate .

[scumdog]

You'd then have to put your hand on your heart and say that you'd never EVER exceeded the speed limit, otherwise you'd be a hypocrite. And who's gonna admit they're a hypocrite?

Me and quite happily, I've driven drunk, I've been speeding (lots), I've had heaps of "sustained loss of traction", etc etc, discharged firearm with intent to frighten...... yada yada yada...

What's wrong with being a hypocrite?????

[inlinefour]

Disclaimer: By the way - before the PC brigade gets on my case - I am not in favour of doing runners, etc :nono: - but if one unfortunately finds themselves in that situation :whistle: I believe it is better to keep going until it is unsafe to continue doing so.......:ride:

What from getting a ticket? :devil2:

[Pixie]

A brother and a sister had it off together and the sister got knocked up. The sister gave birth to something that resembled a human but had a few to many digits on each hand and foot. Eventually the humanoid grew bigger and one day was big enough to ride a motor bike. Then the humanoid got a computer, got hooked up on the interweb, joined a biker forum and called himself roo.
Are you sure it was Roo? :rofl: :rofl:

[FEINT]

Hope all works out for u Roo..

[Da Bird]

Strictly speaking I believe he does not even need that. There have been convictions just on the basis of an estimate .

Quite correct ... got one just a few weeks back (a driver convicted, not me). Judge quite happy with someone (me) giving a speed estimate with 8 years experience behind me.

BC.

[White trash]

Yeah, had a similar situation in Christchurch 6 years back.

Cop (nice guy too) chased us from Burnham to Chch on SH1. 3 of us on bikes, just mucking around. The dude said for the 13km he chased us, his average speed was 164kph, therefore that's what he'd do us for.

We all had a good old chinwag and a laugh about it at the side of the road and he sent us on our way.

Couple of months later it was off to court (no one defended it, that's just dumb), get a letter "50 demerits and $500".

[spudchucka]

Are you sure it was Roo? :rofl: :rofl:
Could be or maybe WINJA, Mikey, R1ArronKDX, Bikerboy or Pixie for that matter. Birds of a feather blah blah blah.....

[madboy]

What's wrong with being a hypocrite?????Okay, so you're man enough to admit you're a hypocrite, but I don't see too many others lining up behind you admitting the same.

[madboy]

How can you get done in court? A lawyer would get you off easy. Just talk to one.
There is no evidence, only the word of an officer who has no idea how fast you were going. Don't forget, you don't know either..... and you were riding as you always have, just like when you got your motorcycle licence. Your not aware that you were riding in any offensive way, Sorry, Dafe, don't take this personally, but you're living in a parallel universe mate. A cops word is gold. Seldom does a judge ever not believe everything the cop says. If he said his radar clocked you at 253km/h on your GN250 and he cleared the reading hoping to get a higher one before he pulled you over therefore couldn't show you the reading - it would be up to you to get the little chinese guy who puts those bikes together to fly to NZ, pull out his calculator, show the judge the blueprints, and prove to him that it was an impossibility for that bike to go that fast - even with Trashy on it. And even then there's a possibility the judge would ignore the laws of physics and side with the cop.

Because COPS NEVER GET IT WRONG!!

Hell, I got convicted for careless driving because a police car attempted to pull be over and nearly crashed into the back of me when I pulled over and stopped - just like I thought you were supposed to do when a vehicle with flashing red and blues appears behind you. Seems the brakes on a Group N Mazda 323 are more effective than a high-mileage Commodore.

[sAsLEX]

Sorry, Dafe, don't take this personally, but you're living in a parallel universe mate. A cops word is gold. Seldom does a judge ever not believe everything the cop says. If he said his radar clocked you at 253km/h on your GN250 and he cleared the reading hoping to get a higher one before he pulled you over therefore couldn't show you the reading - it would be up to you to get the little chinese guy who puts those bikes together to fly to NZ, pull out his calculator, show the judge the blueprints, and prove to him that it was an impossibility for that bike to go that fast - even with Trashy on it. And even then there's a possibility the judge would ignore the laws of physics and side with the cop.

Because COPS NEVER GET IT WRONG!!

think it was aus where a little lady got clocked for some ridiculous speed, so she said car cant go that fast, they tested it at a track and guess what, car couldnt go that fast.

[Lou Girardin]

Me and quite happily, I've driven drunk, I've been speeding (lots), I've had heaps of "sustained loss of traction", etc etc, discharged firearm with intent to frighten...... yada yada yada...

?

And that was just yesterday.

[Lou Girardin]

Could be or maybe WINJA, Mikey, R1ArronKDX, Bikerboy or Pixie for that matter. Birds of a feather blah blah blah.....

Keep honing those people skills. Spuddie for Commissioner!

[Lou Girardin]

think it was aus where a little lady got clocked for some ridiculous speed, so she said car cant go that fast, they tested it at a track and guess what, car couldnt go that fast.

A bus driver in the UK was charged with doing 140 + in a 50 zone, checked by camera. His bus had a recording system fitted that showed his speed at the time was 50 km/h so he got off. What if he'd been in a car?
Ohio has just passed legislation banning all form of automated traffic offence detection. If it's not operated by a cop, it's out. One of their reasons was studies showing an increase in accident rates in many places where cameras are used.
We're one of them.

[Deano]

Alternatively they could just stop riding stupidly fast in stupid situations where their stupid arse is invariably going to get caught by a cop?


And just how fast is stupidly fast ?

[sAsLEX]

If it's not operated by a cop, it's out. One of their reasons was studies showing an increase in accident rates in many places where cameras are used.
We're one of them.

->sarcasm< but they must save lives, why else would the gunnmint put them up all over the place and even hide them in bushes??>sarcasm/<

[spudchucka]

Keep honing those people skills. Spuddie for Commissioner!
Yeah, Robs on his way out and George will be gone after Sept. Time for a change at the top!

[spudchucka]

Okay, so you're man enough to admit you're a hypocrite, but I don't see too many others lining up behind you admitting the same.
Whats the point. No one here is an angle, we've all had our moments of rash and stupid behaviour, some have learned from it and others are still struggling with the whole idea of growing up and learning from their mistakes.

There wouldn't be a cop alive that hadn't broken some law or another at some time in their lives. If that makes us all hypocites then so be it.