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Edbear
31st May 2011, 10:16
After a lot of hard work, my son-in-law has finally got his website developed to where we can refer people to it. For far too long it was "in development" and I was reluctant to refer people to it. Check it out now! I've just told him I think it scrolls too fast for my feeble mind to keep up with, but his projects and success storys are gaining a reputation that is rapidly increasing their workload!

Sounds nepotistic, I know, but Rudy is a genius with a team of geniuses around him. He has never failed to achieve his promises for a client! The Energizer Bunny would get tired trying to keep up with his mind!

http://www.yhp.co.nz/

Ronin
31st May 2011, 10:32
FWIW, he is not doing himself any favours by having the 3 'alternative' browser icons and not IE.

Yes yes, I know, here come the IE haters but the reality is that IE is part of the landscape love it or loath it. By not shoeing the big blu 'IE' is he saying he can't code for it? He doesn't like it? Or that it doesn't exist.

Also, the big ask now button needs to have something behind it.

Edbear
31st May 2011, 10:44
FWIW, he is not doing himself any favours by having the 3 'alternative' browser icons and not IE.

Yes yes, I know, here come the IE haters but the reality is that IE is part of the landscape love it or loath it. By not shoeing the big blu 'IE' is he saying he can't code for it? He doesn't like it? Or that it doesn't exist.

Also, the big ask now button needs to have something behind it.

Not sure why. I can ask, but I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. It won't be a "can't" issue, as I've never found him stumped by anything. If he can't do it it can't be done.

The site will be refined over the next few weeks as all sites are once launched and there may be a few things yet to finish on it.

imdying
31st May 2011, 10:48
Also, the big ask now button needs to have something behind it.And the other one needs to do something at all...

Shoddy, I would take it down until it is actually finished.

Edbear
31st May 2011, 11:00
And the other one needs to do something at all...

Shoddy, I would take it down until it is actually finished.

When you're as successful as Rudy come back. The guy works daylight to 1am or longer at times running three businesses, all of which are booming and have done all through the recession. He started a business at the start of the recession and it boomed from day one and will soon become the major player in that industry as he is now sorting out franchising it. The other related one is set to take that industry over completely in NZ. This when his competitors are laying off staff and closing their doors in a fiercely competitive industry.

The site will be an ongoing development and refined accordingly. His growing list of associations include major players in the IT industry and for security reasons I can't name a couple of the biggest.

Smifffy
31st May 2011, 11:15
It could be just the thing for his target market, but I don't like it. :innocent:

It needs more pics of motorcycles, and some boobies. It might even be able to get away with no motorcycles, if it just had boobies, but both would be better.


HTH

imdying
31st May 2011, 11:25
When you're as successful as Rudy come back.I am and I'm here... and I don't work on cute little booking systems for plumbing sites :msn-wink:

You can get snippy if you like, but don't post unfinished work in a public forum if you don't want comments.

Edbear
31st May 2011, 11:30
I am and I'm here... and I don't work on cute little booking systems for plumbing sites :msn-wink:

You can get snippy if you like, but don't post unfinished work in a public forum if you don't want comments.

LOL!!! Tongue in cheek, somewhat. All criticism is welcomed, why would anyone post on KB if not expecting to be critiqued..? :shutup:

Edbear
31st May 2011, 11:31
It could be just the thing for his target market, but I don't like it. :innocent:

It needs more pics of motorcycles, and some boobies. It might even be able to get away with no motorcycles, if it just had boobies, but both would be better.


HTH

I think the key is "target market"... :yes:

Ronin
31st May 2011, 11:46
I think the key is "target market"... :yes:

The key is that a website advertising the owners ability to code a website needs to be finished and glitch free. Don't get me wrong, I understand your pride but look at it this way. Would you trust a skinny cook?

Edbear
31st May 2011, 12:24
The key is that a website advertising the owners ability to code a website needs to be finished and glitch free. Don't get me wrong, I understand your pride but look at it this way. Would you trust a skinny cook?

I was referring to your requirement for boobies... :innocent:

I do think Rudy's reasoning is that he has not had an online site that shows much at all and it's better to have it mostly finished and refine it than not at all. I'm not sure, but I do know you could make your criticisms and suggestions to him and he'd be able to let you know how he's thinking on it.

What I do know for sure, is the feedback I hear from his customers who are very happy with their results and continuing to invest in Rudy's services due to results beyond their expectations.

My role is limited to some content writing for some sites as I've been firstly too sick due to my accident and lately too busy building my own business to get as involved as I could be.

\m/
31st May 2011, 17:05
FWIW, he is not doing himself any favours by having the 3 'alternative' browser icons and not IE.

Yes yes, I know, here come the IE haters but the reality is that IE is part of the landscape love it or loath it. By not shoeing the big blu 'IE' is he saying he can't code for it? He doesn't like it? Or that it doesn't exist.

Also, the big ask now button needs to have something behind it.

IE sucks, Google Chrome FTW!

Smifffy
31st May 2011, 17:30
I do think Rudy's reasoning is that he has not had an online site that shows much at all and it's better to have it mostly finished and refine it than not at all.

Much like a mechanic's car, or a builder's kitchen, then? :innocent:

Ronin
31st May 2011, 17:34
I was referring to your requirement for boobies... :innocent:

I do think Rudy's reasoning is that he has not had an online site that shows much at all and it's better to have it mostly finished and refine it than not at all. I'm not sure, but I do know you could make your criticisms and suggestions to him and he'd be able to let you know how he's thinking on it.

What I do know for sure, is the feedback I hear from his customers who are very happy with their results and continuing to invest in Rudy's services due to results beyond their expectations.

My role is limited to some content writing for some sites as I've been firstly too sick due to my accident and lately too busy building my own business to get as involved as I could be.

Sorry, I could have been more polite. I own my own IT business and we are in the middle of doing our website. I my web guy would have a dri rider boot up his bum if it went live with links that didn't work. First impressions are everything on on the net you don't get a second chance.

I like the concept of the site. I would check the top right link as well. It changes sizes between pages.

Ronin
31st May 2011, 17:35
Much like a mechanic's car, or a builder's kitchen, then? :innocent:

Never marry a hooker. Nuff said...

Ronin
31st May 2011, 17:36
IE sucks, Google Chrome FTW!

Right up until you have to run a web app that runs on IE8 and nothing else. Then again, I am posting this using chrome on Ubuntu.

Edbear
31st May 2011, 17:44
Much like a mechanic's car, or a builder's kitchen, then? :innocent:

Ha ha, you should have seen the original.


Sorry, I could have been more polite. I own my own IT business and we are in the middle of doing our website. I my web guy would have a dri rider boot up his bum if it went live with links that didn't work. First impressions are everything on on the net you don't get a second chance.

I like the concept of the site. I would check the top right link as well. It changes sizes between pages.

I've had a look but not sure what you mean about the links. I can't see any that don't work or change size. Maybe I'm missing something?

Ronin
31st May 2011, 17:51
Ha ha, you should have seen the original.



I've had a look but not sure what you mean about the links. I can't see any that don't work or change size. Maybe I'm missing something?

Just spent 5 minutes clicking madly. when you click between the Home - Free website analysis - Contact the email link to the right does something strange as it renders as does the take it to the top on the left. Did it at work under windows and IE 8 as well as Ubuntu - chrome at home.

The link not going anywhere is the ask us one.

marty
31st May 2011, 18:01
Hmm - I don't like it. Too busy. Looks like one of those sites set up by a conspiriacy theorist just vomiting information onto the screen.

JMHO

pzkpfw
31st May 2011, 18:28
Capital "W" after a comma in the blurb. Sticks out, inconsistent.

"We build, We host and we market your website to the top."

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And when you click a link and all you get is a pop-up saying "Coming soon" (slack), it's in a window titled "Infomation page" (double slack).

jaffaonajappa
31st May 2011, 19:03
Never marry a hooker. Nuff said...

Really?
Personally - im tired of working.......

pete376403
31st May 2011, 19:52
Spelling mistake - "Our Adgenda? Maximising your leads so you can maximise sales and profit!"
That's all I found in a quick browse, there could be more.
Sorry but I am almost as pedantic as Hitcher when it comes to spelling.

I agree with you the opening pages do scroll too fast. Maybe if there was a "pause" button for the benefit of we oldies.

vifferman
31st May 2011, 20:16
Spelling mistake - "Our Adgenda? Maximising your leads so you can maximise sales and profit!"
That's all I found in a quick browse, there could be more.
Sorry but I am almost as pedantic as Hitcher when it comes to spelling.

You don't need to be sorry - having a page free of simple errors like spelling mistakes and grammatical errors is a basic necessity, before eye-catching graphics and snazzy special effects.
The first one I noticed was from a mouse-over before I even started looking at the page: the "Infomation page" label on the "Ask Now" button.

Sorry if this appears picky and mean-spirited, but it's little things like this that produce a less than professional first impression.

Smifffy
31st May 2011, 22:09
I think the key is "target market"... :yes:

Despite what I said before about the boobies, I could in fact be the target market, since I'm often on the lookout for hosting. In my experience NZ web hosts are just far too expensive, and I've gone for US based hosting companies.

I saw the section that showed that they offer hosting, and unlimited bandwidth and storage etc, but no price and no other detail. Unless they rank highly in a web search or are now recommended by someone else I know that uses them, I won't be back. I can't even remember the name, even though it was only, i think, three letters long. Maybe he could buy a vowel?

Edbear
1st June 2011, 07:15
Spelling mistake - "Our Adgenda? Maximising your leads so you can maximise sales and profit!"
That's all I found in a quick browse, there could be more.
Sorry but I am almost as pedantic as Hitcher when it comes to spelling.

I agree with you the opening pages do scroll too fast. Maybe if there was a "pause" button for the benefit of we oldies.


You don't need to be sorry - having a page free of simple errors like spelling mistakes and grammatical errors is a basic necessity, before eye-catching graphics and snazzy special effects.
The first one I noticed was from a mouse-over before I even started looking at the page: the "Infomation page" label on the "Ask Now" button.

Sorry if this appears picky and mean-spirited, but it's little things like this that produce a less than professional first impression.


Despite what I said before about the boobies, I could in fact be the target market, since I'm often on the lookout for hosting. In my experience NZ web hosts are just far too expensive, and I've gone for US based hosting companies.

I saw the section that showed that they offer hosting, and unlimited bandwidth and storage etc, but no price and no other detail. Unless they rank highly in a web search or are now recommended by someone else I know that uses them, I won't be back. I can't even remember the name, even though it was only, i think, three letters long. Maybe he could buy a vowel?

All points taken on board and I'll pass them on. Trouble with people who have English as second or third language. Rudy speaks four or five languages and English is his third language behind German and Hebrew. I was his main proof-reader until my accident but I've not been able to be so involved since. He's always telling me I should use my knowledge of English because of the demand for people in the industry who can write content and proof-read.

Rudy has several hosting sites around the world including Europe and the USA, he hasn't used NZ for years. He has his own servers and pretty much knows them all as he's always keeping up to date with things. I think from what he was saying the other week that he's built his own somehwere? You guys who know about such things may know what I'm talking about, I don't.

I should get more involved again, he's asked me to do a lot of content writing for a couple of sites. I've been doing the suburbs on Euro Plumbing Ltd. for him. When you log on to europlumbing.co.nz and scroll to the bottom and click on a suburb I will have done the content for it. Still got a few to go yet.