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SilentDtH
22nd June 2011, 11:26
I am performing my first ever cam shaft installation.
The bike is a Honda CL 400.

Molybdenum Oil
The Servicing Manual states that I should apply Molybdenum Oil to the Cam Shaft lobes and journal. Googling around tells me that Molybdenum Oil is a 50/50 mix of Molybdenum Grease and normal engine oil. Is this true? Will this stuff work from SuperCheap: http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online-store/products/Penrite-Moly-Grease-Tub-500g.aspx?pid=1935#Description . If not, what would you use?

Locking Agent
The service manual also advises to apply locking agent to the sprocket bolt threads. The sprocket being the sprocket that attaches to the cam shaft. What locking agent do you recommend for this task, and where can I get some?

Paul in NZ
22nd June 2011, 12:25
No - use 'assembly lube' for installing the cam.

For locking select the right loctite compound (look on the website) but the blue thread locker should do the trick.

SilentDtH
22nd June 2011, 13:24
Thanks Paul, I couldn't find those products on the super cheap auto website, I will have a look elsewhere.

SilentDtH
22nd June 2011, 16:12
Still can't find them anywhere online. Any advice on where to shop for the assembly lube and loctite? Perhaps Bunnings or Mitre 10?

scumdog
22nd June 2011, 16:19
Still can't find them anywhere online. Any advice on where to shop for the assembly lube and loctite? Perhaps Bunnings or Mitre 10?

The lube normally is part of any new cam package but any good engine rebuilders will have some - or try Kelford cams.

And any decent engineering supply outfit will have Loctite which is what you need - the corrcect type will be on the label.

Luckylegs
22nd June 2011, 16:37
Still can't find them anywhere online. Any advice on where to shop for the assembly lube and loctite? Perhaps Bunnings or Mitre 10?

supercheap has thread locking stuff. It may just not be Loc tite (brand). Its permatex. see link

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Permatex-Threadlocker-Blue-10mL.aspx?pid=5361#Description

they also have red, and purple (which provide differing levels of "Oh My fuckin god this bolt is so farkin stuck, I need a beer, Ill get it out later" effect)

Paul in NZ
22nd June 2011, 17:39
Repco or supercheap or other places will have it (BNT)

Their websites dont have all their stuf listed.

Grumph
22nd June 2011, 19:00
I read the title of this thread and had a flashback to doing RC30 rods..

Moly grease under the nuts to avoid galling the Titanium rods and loctite on the threads - and don't mix the two.

Woodman
22nd June 2011, 19:01
Repco. part number 3331 for ass lube.

Madness
22nd June 2011, 19:06
http://crc.co.nz/Automotive-Lubricants--Penetrants-Specialty-Lubricants/p1/AntiSeize-Engine-Assembly-Lube-id8b8867a-ce4b-4add-86b8-db6a66d63ff7-6551.htm

http://tradezone.co.nz/locations/auckland.htm

bsasuper
22nd June 2011, 20:24
Loctite 243

SilentDtH
22nd June 2011, 22:09
The lube normally is part of any new cam package but any good engine rebuilders will have some - or try Kelford cams.

And any decent engineering supply outfit will have Loctite which is what you need - the corrcect type will be on the label.

Thanks


supercheap has thread locking stuff. It may just not be Loc tite (brand). Its permatex. see link

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Permatex-Threadlocker-Blue-10mL.aspx?pid=5361#Description

they also have red, and purple (which provide differing levels of "Oh My fuckin god this bolt is so farkin stuck, I need a beer, Ill get it out later" effect)

Awesome, cheers


Repco. part number 3331 for ass lube.

just what I needed


http://crc.co.nz/Automotive-Lubricants--Penetrants-Specialty-Lubricants/p1/AntiSeize-Engine-Assembly-Lube-id8b8867a-ce4b-4add-86b8-db6a66d63ff7-6551.htm

http://tradezone.co.nz/locations/auckland.htm

oh perfect, thanks!


Loctite 243

Roger that.

Good stuff everyone, appreciate it.